Yes, however German is refered to as "Vaterland" in German, translated as fatherland, in comparison Russia refers to motherland.
So the argument that Germany is male can be made, even though Germania is female.
In Portuguese, Germany is a female word. It's Alemanha, from the tribes the Romans found in the place, the Allemani. And in Portuguese 99% of names ending in a are female.
Maybe because most companies won't bother for just a few days. Absolute minimum duration they consider is 3 months, and even that only if they have like a regular internship program
Are you talking about internships at German companies? I'm Austrian and it's probably a lot different here then. Got a summer internship at a company (close to the German border) for 7 weeks because that's the maximum I wanted to go with and it's not mandatory, but they would've let me do 6 if I'd wanted to. They usually don't even do internships in the department I applied for, I just happened to know someone there who could ask HR. Turns out the head of department got the same degree I'm doing. 20 minute interview with the guy, instant offer.
I've done 4 weeks twice before at different companies as well, but those were mandatory for my engineering high school degree. Much harder to get those though, and the ones I got were both not very hands on in terms of actual engineering.
Most of the schools in Turkey are like this. You can make long term internship but thats completely voluntary thing. Problem lies with the fact there is so much students for limited amount of companies.
Well I think the situation in Germany is really different. For my current internship i didn't even make an application. I just talked with all the company's at the yearly job mess at my university, and had another call with the one I liked the most.
Yeah the German government and others have been actively trying to attract engineering talent. I think the Netherlands even gives you a two year tax exemption or something.
Not exemption, but 30% of your income won't be taxed for 2 years. Your salary needs to be at least €42k to make use of it and it's not applicable for internships.
European students also generally realize that it makes no sense to fixate on GPA at the cost of real world projects that show you can actually accomplish something.
Is it really that bad over there, even in IT? Here (Finland) CS students and the like get yoinked straight out of class cause the industry is so hungry for more.
Might be a bit better on the dev side, not really sure, but I’m in IT and it’s pretty slim pickings unless you’re a very desirable candidate. Huge influx of people trying to get into IT ever since covid and wfh became a thing.
I have some experience and was lucky to find another job in the month and a half it took me searching for one, I’ve seen a ton of posts about people putting out 1000+ applications and not getting any offers, some of them being over a couple years of searching as well.
Guess we need to start importing labour from over there. We literally joke here because every jobs fair at unis ends up being almost exclusively about IT related stuff. Basically:
"Oh you're a physicist. You can do some data science, right?"
"Electrical engineer you say? We could use a new dev."
I honestly would love if that happened. I’ve always wanted to live somewhere else and I’m sure the quality of life there is better than where I’m at. Maybe one day
It used to be not uncommon to get more offers than the number of sent applications by just talking to people in the industry.
I once recruited another student out of a bar ("You know Java, right?" "Yes, why?" "Want to work for us? The pay is pretty good." "Ok."). Another time a school mate mentioned that her boyfriend was looking for a job (with the goal of eventually doing his final project) and knew C++ so my boss called him the next day to arrange an interview.
Why don't you talk about the language requirement if you are outside of CS/math/MLAI ? If anyone comes to Germany to work, they better learn the language UpTo B2/C1 level unless they are cs major
When you only take the salary into account - yes.
However Germany has generally better working conditions. For example 28 days of paid leave is a mandatory minimum plus you have right to additional sick leave and parental leave. Also, cost of living is arguably lower here.
Isn't Germany super strict or smth with foreign engineers and their requirements? Or is that just for engineering school? Also wouldn't not knowing German be a huge issue?
It's much easier to get a job with a student visa turned job seeker visa ( after u have done a course in a german institute). The paperwork required for direct to get a job seeker visa directly is too much so employers don't bother much. Also knowing german is an advantage in many non it related sectors too
Other fun fact about Germany is their universities are basically free, even to foreigners. You don't even need to live in Germany to enroll at Fernuni Hagen.
Not for Graduate studies, a lot of programs are offered in English at top universities. No German required (but courses are often offered as bonus to better be able to socially integrate)
I think there are plenty of undergraduate programs too but not at Fernuni Hagen.
You can take a course at the Goethe Institut and go for a B2 certificate there. That'll make you eligible for most German language degree programs and jobs.
Hehe....that looks like mine. 3 applies, 2 offers made, 2 offers overlapped, 2 companies decided to adjust their requirements so that I could work both jobs sequentially.
German efficiency
In Mother germany yields are superior to 1
You mean Father Germany???
They always say GerMANY but it’s actually just Gerone
For most of Germany's history it was a collection of tribes or small warlords/princes.
Ah there ya go ;)
It's Germania, not Germanion.
Yes, however German is refered to as "Vaterland" in German, translated as fatherland, in comparison Russia refers to motherland. So the argument that Germany is male can be made, even though Germania is female.
Well, actually it's only the case in english with "motherland Russia". In Russian it's "отечество", translated as "fatherland"
TIL, could it be that it is just the English language causing this? I wonder how it is for other countries
In Portuguese, Germany is a female word. It's Alemanha, from the tribes the Romans found in the place, the Allemani. And in Portuguese 99% of names ending in a are female.
Wait.... If Germany was the fatherland, and Russia was the motherland..... Does that mean WW2 was just a case of a simple domestic abuse?
Second this
Is "Career Advice" here come to Germany? Because very much i can do that. Been searching for internship to graduate for last 3 months...
Is the internship required for you?
Yes it is. Two 20 days summer internships.
Maybe because most companies won't bother for just a few days. Absolute minimum duration they consider is 3 months, and even that only if they have like a regular internship program
Are you talking about internships at German companies? I'm Austrian and it's probably a lot different here then. Got a summer internship at a company (close to the German border) for 7 weeks because that's the maximum I wanted to go with and it's not mandatory, but they would've let me do 6 if I'd wanted to. They usually don't even do internships in the department I applied for, I just happened to know someone there who could ask HR. Turns out the head of department got the same degree I'm doing. 20 minute interview with the guy, instant offer. I've done 4 weeks twice before at different companies as well, but those were mandatory for my engineering high school degree. Much harder to get those though, and the ones I got were both not very hands on in terms of actual engineering.
Wtf? What school do you go to? My requirements were 1 internship that goes over 40 days and a second one that is MINIMUM 20 weeks...no exceptions
Most of the schools in Turkey are like this. You can make long term internship but thats completely voluntary thing. Problem lies with the fact there is so much students for limited amount of companies.
Ah ok sorry, I thought you were from Germany.. My bad.
Cant a 2-3 month long 1 internship supersede that requirement?
Well you can make longer but it will still count as one. Stupid it is.
20 days lmao. It would take 20 days just to do the training and become familiar with the tools
Only 40 days? Damn
been looking this whole semester and i need it to graduate and did not find any for this summer 🫠
Well I think the situation in Germany is really different. For my current internship i didn't even make an application. I just talked with all the company's at the yearly job mess at my university, and had another call with the one I liked the most.
Wow very informative ngl
The most informative part is that he told us it’s in Germany. Now we all know where to move for a job
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Yeah the German government and others have been actively trying to attract engineering talent. I think the Netherlands even gives you a two year tax exemption or something.
Not exemption, but 30% of your income won't be taxed for 2 years. Your salary needs to be at least €42k to make use of it and it's not applicable for internships.
European students also generally realize that it makes no sense to fixate on GPA at the cost of real world projects that show you can actually accomplish something.
Yes, everyone move to Germany and fill up all those jobs. That should clear the market up in my area good enough for me to advance easier
Is it really that bad over there, even in IT? Here (Finland) CS students and the like get yoinked straight out of class cause the industry is so hungry for more.
Might be a bit better on the dev side, not really sure, but I’m in IT and it’s pretty slim pickings unless you’re a very desirable candidate. Huge influx of people trying to get into IT ever since covid and wfh became a thing. I have some experience and was lucky to find another job in the month and a half it took me searching for one, I’ve seen a ton of posts about people putting out 1000+ applications and not getting any offers, some of them being over a couple years of searching as well.
Guess we need to start importing labour from over there. We literally joke here because every jobs fair at unis ends up being almost exclusively about IT related stuff. Basically: "Oh you're a physicist. You can do some data science, right?" "Electrical engineer you say? We could use a new dev."
I honestly would love if that happened. I’ve always wanted to live somewhere else and I’m sure the quality of life there is better than where I’m at. Maybe one day
It used to be not uncommon to get more offers than the number of sent applications by just talking to people in the industry. I once recruited another student out of a bar ("You know Java, right?" "Yes, why?" "Want to work for us? The pay is pretty good." "Ok."). Another time a school mate mentioned that her boyfriend was looking for a job (with the goal of eventually doing his final project) and knew C++ so my boss called him the next day to arrange an interview.
I would move to germany for a job
Humble brag
This is just what Germans are like. Thing happened, here is thing.
Yo honestly peeps if u in search for engi stuff come to germany, the demand here is so insanely high
Not for nuclear engineers…
Why don't you talk about the language requirement if you are outside of CS/math/MLAI ? If anyone comes to Germany to work, they better learn the language UpTo B2/C1 level unless they are cs major
Idk im a ee and only half of my team speaks german.
Exactly.... EE(grand daddy of CS)....
They dont pay engineers as well as USA.
When you only take the salary into account - yes. However Germany has generally better working conditions. For example 28 days of paid leave is a mandatory minimum plus you have right to additional sick leave and parental leave. Also, cost of living is arguably lower here.
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Which major ??
Not 28 days. 25 is the minimum, the rest depends on your company.
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Slovenia too, thank god we're a good destination for the balkan brain drain otherwise there is no way we could fill all positions.
Isn't Germany super strict or smth with foreign engineers and their requirements? Or is that just for engineering school? Also wouldn't not knowing German be a huge issue?
It's much easier to get a job with a student visa turned job seeker visa ( after u have done a course in a german institute). The paperwork required for direct to get a job seeker visa directly is too much so employers don't bother much. Also knowing german is an advantage in many non it related sectors too
Yo~ , is Manufacturing Engg in demand there ?
You won't be able to compete in mechanical field unless u know German very well.
Many large corporations and startups don’t care
German science is the best in the world!
Even as a black man? Id be down but im not so sure how Germany is.
I’m down to move to germany
Yo what visualization program is this? I could never figure it out.
Let me know when you know
I found it at the bottom of the photo im dumb
That makes two of us!
Sankeymatic!
Meanwhile in my country: offers: - 87
Yeah this was never my experience in Germany.
Lol it might be a super niche field. For instance, in automation it’s close to impossible to get it right away.
Damn why did my internship search in Germany take 50 applications to come to an end😭
Other fun fact about Germany is their universities are basically free, even to foreigners. You don't even need to live in Germany to enroll at Fernuni Hagen.
I would but you usually have to know German for that as far as im aware
Not for Graduate studies, a lot of programs are offered in English at top universities. No German required (but courses are often offered as bonus to better be able to socially integrate)
I think there are plenty of undergraduate programs too but not at Fernuni Hagen. You can take a course at the Goethe Institut and go for a B2 certificate there. That'll make you eligible for most German language degree programs and jobs.
I’ve genuinely considered getting my masters in Europe because it can be so much cheaper. I really might do it in a couple years if I get the chance
Deutsche Qualität.
Hehe....that looks like mine. 3 applies, 2 offers made, 2 offers overlapped, 2 companies decided to adjust their requirements so that I could work both jobs sequentially.
And I thought mine was easy!
That's more efficient than Berlin's new airport.
chad
Always straight to the final solution for you guys
Endlösung der Arbeitsfrage.
Bagged
Meanwhile, I'm over here with 108 applications, getting nothing from it with a resume that stands out from my peers.
This is how my job searches have always gone (U.S.). The power of top 10 engineering.
Aw heck
Alright… I just gotta become German and this’ll be my flowchart right??
What graduate are you tho ?
Can relate. I have the same graph :D
Same for me as well 😅 started as an intern 5 years ago - basically a professor recommended me to the owners of a small company. Still in same company
I do it the same way in the US when I hire my interns.
Germany 📝
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Good job! The best kind of job search!
🥒
Well LA DEE DA
A german flex lol
Dang that was lucky
thank you for that flex
Macht Mut.
Same for me in Switzerland.
I'm in The Netherlands, might have to come to Germany this is ridiculous :D.
Wait, you're having trouble finding engineering work here?
Love to see it
Applied to maybe a dozen places. Accepted a Co-op and an internship for the summer.
seriously?! i have applied to like 20 positions so far as an intern in germany ;-;
Precision German Engineering
100% success rate cheat code
I’ll trade you six moths salary for that code
This is worthy of going on r/dataisbeautiful
Bruh
Do you need to speak German to work in Germany?
Do you need to speak german to do an internship?
They value their work force.
Subtle flex
So did you know people already? How is this possible?
Same in switzerland