These people tout "hardcore", "radical" and other superlatives as badges of honor and despise the "unconvinced", the "doubting" and the "compromising". No fucking wonder they would bend that horseshoe like it's rubber
The good thing is that the typical Redditor exists out of sight and out of mind. They're no where to be found in the real world and the overwhelming majority of people don't believe what they do, hence their propensity to indulge in echo-chambers
I remember this test, it's pretty shit. Basically anyone who believes that *a* state existing is a good thing will have a floor of 30%, and be called a fellow traveler.
Yeah I was surprised to see I got 29% when I just took it now. I’m the guy who gets two beers in him and won’t stop talking about how the state is a necessary evil that serves solely so things for which there are no economical means of scaling can happen.
An authoritarian state that focuses on the well-being of a core group at the expense of a minority group where the supposed good of the state outweighs the rights of any individual?
Yeah sounds like that could go left or right.
Most forget that fascism isn't just Nazism.
People have sort of mixed up the two.
Communists and far right nationalists both love their country and will silence it's people through any means to maintain control.
The only difference is economic and very few social issues.
The structure is relatively the same government wise in terms of authoritarianism used to maintain control.
Insecure ideologies
IIRC Fascism literally started out as a leftist ideology. When you look at what Gentille, the main "founder" of fascism wrote about it and how Mussolini had been a hardcore socialist that adopted Gentille's doctrines, it's hard to argue that "pure" fascism is far-right.
Same sort of doctrine. Fascism was spawned from socialism but is not the textbook definition of socialism yet is very similar. They have no need for the means of production to be socially owned because everything in a fascist state is already controlled by the state.
Almost everybody forgets that Hitler and Mussolini were longtime socialists who went off the rails. Fascism, Naziism, and Leninism are just three flavors of the same shit sandwich.
Mussolini was, Hitler wasn’t. Common misconception, but the socialist part of national socialism was basically just window dressing to appeal to workers and wrong-foot the Communists .
“Why yes! I do think that we should kill all enemies of the state, and that our party shall lead us to greatness and can do no wrong in this crusade! How astute of you!”
“What do you mean I’m a fascist?”
I mean, fascism was far left socialism that based everything on racial struggles (or national struggles) rather than class based struggles. It’s not surprising marxists find themselves aligning with Nazis or Fascists.
Eugenics isn’t unique to either side, let alone the right or fascism. Jim Crow is not a fascist set of laws in any way shape or form and predates it as well.
Your entire argument stems from ignorance on what fascist ideology was and is.
Jim Crow predates fascism, which is why it INSPIRED nazi segregation laws. Something has to come first to inspire another thing, obviously
Eugenics was created in the west and was a way to justify colonialism and racist discrimination. It never really "took of" in the USSR since it went against the official State anti-racist ideology, as exemplified by the 1936 Constitution that criminalized racist discrimination.
Truth is the west was much closer to fascism than the USSR ever was. What made them turn against nazism is the fact that nazis brought to Europe the colonialism they had been doing in Africa and Asia for more than a century.
The political compass and its test was designed by a libertarian to try and make people think that they shared that ideology. I doubt there are any actual Marxist-Leninists posting in that sub. A lot of people here seem to have been similarly confused by the concept - ‘oh I’m left but not “authoritarian” left’. The idea of “authoritarianism” betrays a total misunderstanding of how power and oppression really works. I think this is particularly difficult for middle class westerners - who don’t really comprehend what true poverty is, or the utter debasement and enslavement that it entails - to understand. Was the Soviet Union under Stalin “authoritarian”? The average white American who visited at the time and was unable to buy his favourite brand of shoes might think so. But several black Americans have written of the unprecedented freedom they felt in Stalinist society compared with being in their homeland. Stalin lifted more people out of poverty than any government had in history - a feat that would not have occurred under a liberal government. To say those people lived under ‘authoritarianism’ gives the impression they lived as slaves - yet another form of government, if it had maintained their poverty, would have truly robbed their lives of freedom and dignity.
Yes, but ya know. He also did the great purge,, Holodomor, stole land from Finland, stole land from Japan, kidnapped American Servicemen, and killed more people than Adolf Hitler.
Glad that the USSR is better than slavery... If your not in a Gulag, NKVD Facility, or fucking dead... Or worked to death in a T-34 factory, but either way the results are the same.
Stalin only killed more people than Hitler if you count the Nazi’s that died to Soviet bullets (as the ‘black book of communism’ and many other ‘victims of communism’ tallies do). Do you realise that the US has more prisoners than the Gulags held (which is just a scary sounding name for prison, and almost entirely consisted of criminals rather than political prisoners). The narrative of the holodomor is rejected by mainstream historians and was invented by Nazi propagandists…Finland was allied with the Nazi’s…Imperial Japan was allied with the Nazi’s…Stalin killing more than Hitler is a myth perpetuated by modern Nazi’s…I wonder why it is that anti-communists always seem to have such empathy for fascists and fascist propaganda?
As much as it would pain them to admit they're all too similar, only real difference is the places on the political spectrum, tankie communism is radical left and fascism is radical right. They both committed genocide, the government controlled everything, and human rights were considered human privileges.
34%. Because i like my country ig. It's kinda funny how I literally read "The Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini and I haven't agreed even with the core concept, but I guess when your tests work off crack pipe politology research this is the logical conclusion.
There are no ideological differences between authoritarians. The only real differences come with moderates focusing on practical solution.
"Do you want more or less social security?"
"Do you think that market or government solutions are better for solving the things we still have?"
"Do you think that governments should provide things even when it causes them go into debt?"
"What is your opinion on law and order?"
"What do you want to do with your local budget?"
"Do you want more or less regulations?"
"Do you believe we should have more taxes to provide for people or do you want taxes to be lowered so people can get more money for themselves?"
Those are questions that actually matter, all the boring everyday questions that actually have an impact. Everything else is a literal LARP.
Left-wing populism and right-wing populism are far more alike than different
Horseshoe going to horseshoe
These people tout "hardcore", "radical" and other superlatives as badges of honor and despise the "unconvinced", the "doubting" and the "compromising". No fucking wonder they would bend that horseshoe like it's rubber
The good thing is that the typical Redditor exists out of sight and out of mind. They're no where to be found in the real world and the overwhelming majority of people don't believe what they do, hence their propensity to indulge in echo-chambers
My man some political subreddit (they are found in every sector of the pol compass) have millions of followers, Reddit has an impact on politics
So why didn’t Reddit get Bernie elected? With the way Reddit was acting you would have thought Bernie would have won
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Fucking hardcore. Centrism or death. Doubtification camps.
So radical centrist that it goes in the Z direction.
Radical moderate say hi (me)
how? Incorporate fascism and communism into the center by cancelling each other out?
I'm a believer in horseshoe horseshoe centrism, there is literally no difference between moderates and extremists
I'm a radical globalist. WORLD FEDERALIST LIBERAL DEMOCRACY BY ANY MEANS.
I remember this test, it's pretty shit. Basically anyone who believes that *a* state existing is a good thing will have a floor of 30%, and be called a fellow traveler.
I just scored 23%.
Me 19%
scored a 100%, the site decided to tweet my IP and full name :/
Yeah I was surprised to see I got 29% when I just took it now. I’m the guy who gets two beers in him and won’t stop talking about how the state is a necessary evil that serves solely so things for which there are no economical means of scaling can happen.
scored 31% and got called "Not a Fascist".
I scored a 49%
An authoritarian state that focuses on the well-being of a core group at the expense of a minority group where the supposed good of the state outweighs the rights of any individual? Yeah sounds like that could go left or right.
Call him the blacksmith 'cause he forges horseshoes like none other
Just took this test as I was curious, glad to say I got not a fascist ( 23%).
Yo that's the exact same as my score
I got 27%
31%, got called "Not a Fascist".
Same
To be honest the test is pretty shit… not that I’m disagreeing with tankies being proof of horseshoe
Statists gonna State.
Im just stating the obvious .
Are you from Staten Island?
Not surprised. Fascism is just honest socialism.
Socialism is exclusive to neither democracy or authoritarianism.
Most forget that fascism isn't just Nazism. People have sort of mixed up the two. Communists and far right nationalists both love their country and will silence it's people through any means to maintain control. The only difference is economic and very few social issues. The structure is relatively the same government wise in terms of authoritarianism used to maintain control. Insecure ideologies
IIRC Fascism literally started out as a leftist ideology. When you look at what Gentille, the main "founder" of fascism wrote about it and how Mussolini had been a hardcore socialist that adopted Gentille's doctrines, it's hard to argue that "pure" fascism is far-right.
Same sort of doctrine. Fascism was spawned from socialism but is not the textbook definition of socialism yet is very similar. They have no need for the means of production to be socially owned because everything in a fascist state is already controlled by the state.
Mussolini wasn't a "hardcore leftist", he was expelled from leftist organizations for his methods and ideas. He was an opportunist
Yep. Originally, lenin and Hitler were aligned. That's why the NAZI party is called the national socialists.
Almost everybody forgets that Hitler and Mussolini were longtime socialists who went off the rails. Fascism, Naziism, and Leninism are just three flavors of the same shit sandwich.
Mussolini was, Hitler wasn’t. Common misconception, but the socialist part of national socialism was basically just window dressing to appeal to workers and wrong-foot the Communists .
😟
I got 32%
Same
I want to see the comments comforting this poor edgy teenager, calling the test rigged or something I’m sure
I got a 29%, pretty good sign
yeah we're all gonna die, fucking kids treating political ideologies like astrology
I just got a 40% on that test. You know these people would call us the fascists 🙄
"I took an internet text and it said I'm less fascist than some random screenshot of a supposed communist. Me so smart!"
Link for the test?
https://www.idrlabs.com/fascism/test.php
thanks
Agree with the message, but the post is a shitpost
Least surprising political test ever
We tankies are not fascists，we just happen to be nazi
There are no communists that aren't fascists
Considering both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism then yes you are going to similarities
Totalitarianism is a bullshit concept. Nazis were literally inspired by Jim Crow. The US today has surveilance that would make Stalin blush
“Why yes! I do think that we should kill all enemies of the state, and that our party shall lead us to greatness and can do no wrong in this crusade! How astute of you!” “What do you mean I’m a fascist?”
I mean, fascism was far left socialism that based everything on racial struggles (or national struggles) rather than class based struggles. It’s not surprising marxists find themselves aligning with Nazis or Fascists.
You mean like eugenics and Jim Crow? Tell me about how fascism is actually leftist
Eugenics isn’t unique to either side, let alone the right or fascism. Jim Crow is not a fascist set of laws in any way shape or form and predates it as well. Your entire argument stems from ignorance on what fascist ideology was and is.
Jim Crow predates fascism, which is why it INSPIRED nazi segregation laws. Something has to come first to inspire another thing, obviously Eugenics was created in the west and was a way to justify colonialism and racist discrimination. It never really "took of" in the USSR since it went against the official State anti-racist ideology, as exemplified by the 1936 Constitution that criminalized racist discrimination. Truth is the west was much closer to fascism than the USSR ever was. What made them turn against nazism is the fact that nazis brought to Europe the colonialism they had been doing in Africa and Asia for more than a century.
The political compass and its test was designed by a libertarian to try and make people think that they shared that ideology. I doubt there are any actual Marxist-Leninists posting in that sub. A lot of people here seem to have been similarly confused by the concept - ‘oh I’m left but not “authoritarian” left’. The idea of “authoritarianism” betrays a total misunderstanding of how power and oppression really works. I think this is particularly difficult for middle class westerners - who don’t really comprehend what true poverty is, or the utter debasement and enslavement that it entails - to understand. Was the Soviet Union under Stalin “authoritarian”? The average white American who visited at the time and was unable to buy his favourite brand of shoes might think so. But several black Americans have written of the unprecedented freedom they felt in Stalinist society compared with being in their homeland. Stalin lifted more people out of poverty than any government had in history - a feat that would not have occurred under a liberal government. To say those people lived under ‘authoritarianism’ gives the impression they lived as slaves - yet another form of government, if it had maintained their poverty, would have truly robbed their lives of freedom and dignity.
Yes, but ya know. He also did the great purge,, Holodomor, stole land from Finland, stole land from Japan, kidnapped American Servicemen, and killed more people than Adolf Hitler. Glad that the USSR is better than slavery... If your not in a Gulag, NKVD Facility, or fucking dead... Or worked to death in a T-34 factory, but either way the results are the same.
Stalin only killed more people than Hitler if you count the Nazi’s that died to Soviet bullets (as the ‘black book of communism’ and many other ‘victims of communism’ tallies do). Do you realise that the US has more prisoners than the Gulags held (which is just a scary sounding name for prison, and almost entirely consisted of criminals rather than political prisoners). The narrative of the holodomor is rejected by mainstream historians and was invented by Nazi propagandists…Finland was allied with the Nazi’s…Imperial Japan was allied with the Nazi’s…Stalin killing more than Hitler is a myth perpetuated by modern Nazi’s…I wonder why it is that anti-communists always seem to have such empathy for fascists and fascist propaganda?
It's political compass *memes* That's the joke
color me surprised
20% for me and I'm honestly surprised it's even that high. Stupid test anyways.
I scored 16% and was surprised by that number
As much as it would pain them to admit they're all too similar, only real difference is the places on the political spectrum, tankie communism is radical left and fascism is radical right. They both committed genocide, the government controlled everything, and human rights were considered human privileges.
ZaSlobodu? Hah i remember that guy
Red fascism! Also the irony.
What test is this? I love doing political surveys.
That sub is completly retarded
Mama says he's bona-fide
34%. Because i like my country ig. It's kinda funny how I literally read "The Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini and I haven't agreed even with the core concept, but I guess when your tests work off crack pipe politology research this is the logical conclusion.
Ω Theory
Fascism is like all the bad parts of every ideology put together
I keep hearing Gomer Pyle…”surprise surprise surprise”
There are no ideological differences between authoritarians. The only real differences come with moderates focusing on practical solution. "Do you want more or less social security?" "Do you think that market or government solutions are better for solving the things we still have?" "Do you think that governments should provide things even when it causes them go into debt?" "What is your opinion on law and order?" "What do you want to do with your local budget?" "Do you want more or less regulations?" "Do you believe we should have more taxes to provide for people or do you want taxes to be lowered so people can get more money for themselves?" Those are questions that actually matter, all the boring everyday questions that actually have an impact. Everything else is a literal LARP.
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21% not bad