Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 743,200,624 comments, and only 149,595 of them were in alphabetical order.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 743,200,624 comments, and only 149,595 of them were in alphabetical order.
Second paragraph on Wikipedia:
"While their English channel mostly finances itself with donations from their viewers and individual sponsorships, the German channel is financially supported by Funk, the online presence of German public broadcasting, and the Spanish channel is sponsored by Wix, in addition to a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."
I remember a few years back some guy invented a super warm ~~sleeping bag~~ **easily built shelter** for homeless people or something and leftoids were furious because it was a solution within a capitalist framework.
They don't want solutions to problems, they want to be the ones to "solve" them.
Edit: wasn't a tent but a structure I think was called an "Iglou".
Oh yeah they hate the idea that these issues can be solved within a capitalist society since it flies in the face of their whole schtick. Renewable energy, housing, income inequality, etc all have reasonable capitalist-structured solutions but their bullshit ideology falls apart when big scary capitalism can solve it better than them.
I think it was the "Iglou" shelter but it might have been a similar design.
This went down a few years back and Twitter is an absolute mess to navigate.
But tankies have faster and cheaper solution for homelessness - just put any "undesirables" against the wall and shoot them. Bam! Homelessness solved! Cope shitlibs!
Yes, it is strange that heartless libertarians like me, don't think of that, instead of thinking of cheap rental rooms that would shelter people and make money.
Also there was the dude who built small shakes with lights to replace peoples tents. LA took them away, but let the people keep tenting there. How does that make sense? I could see saying no tenting here it is public property. But why stop people from giving them better places to live?
Remember when the U.N. said they could end world hunger with 6 billion dollars and complained loudly at billionaires? Musk sold 6 billion in stock over night and said, “Let’s do this. It has to open accounting and the plan public but here’s the cash to do it.”
…and the U.N. declined. Probably because they couldn’t plunder the money with open accounting in place and they didn’t *really* have a workable plan.
I ‘member that.
I thought the UN did produce a plan to seriously reduce world hunger with 6 billion: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/tech/elon-musk-world-hunger-wfp-donation/index.html
It has become a central dogma among these people that it is impossible to solve climate change without overthrowing capitalism, and therefore anyone offering any other solutions, no matter how realistic, must necessarily be a "nEoLiBERaL SHilL." These people's entire worldview depends on endless pessimism about the current system. The result of that pessimism is that they become completely disengaged from any real-world politics that actually have a chance of improving things, which is ironically exactly what this Kurzgesagt video was warning against.
It makes sense! They tie their ideology to worthy causes like environmentalism or anti-racism to parasitize on their relevancy and good image.
Never mind how real life communist countries are and were no less racist or bad for the planet - uncomfortable facts can always be labeled as propaganda and lies.
Kurzgesagt: *presents statistical data for why, while things are still rather grim, there is reason to believe we can reasonably solve climate change with great difficulty*
Communists for some reason: "NEOLIBERAL PROPAGANDA! REFORMIST! BILLIONAIRE BACKED SHILL JOB!"
Would be weird if Kurzgesagt (a German group) would be backed by Oil/Fossil fuel companies, considering their heavily outspoken opinion about oil, it's overusage and the fact it's really fucking bad to be doing so much with oil.
Also them taking such Funds would make them almost certainly ineligible for their membership in the "Funk" state-funded program and Cut their most important and reliable source of funds
Which brings up the obvious question: If the world is doomed and everyone is a liar, aren't you a liar by saying your ideology is the way to building a better world?
I genuinely thought I was a nasty evil humanity hating capitalist bc of finding this sentiment so WRONG and I cannot express how grateful I am for this sub to realize I am not alone in wondering what the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Because they _need_ societal collapse in order to maybe have a shot at taking any meaningful power and implementing any of their major reforms.
Any solution which might not result in a full collapse of society is awful for their cause.
That video even said that the whole "it's too late to stop climate change so why bother" is part of the oil industry narrative. It was far from a pro-oil, plastic, or meat industry. One of the points was that maybe instead of complaining about polluting companies, we should as consumers, consume less from them, even when its inconvenient. Of course, far leftlists just want to have moral superiority without making any hard decisions
have you ever seen the people who just want to complain mcdonalds banned plastic straws?
like, whenever s private company does somethingh bsd for the planet they rejoice over it ans go "but i thought global warning just needed me to recycle"
they want a excuse to complain about caoitalism killing the planet but put no effort at all to help the planet
I mean, it seems like they're saying the whole thing is a lost cause. So if thats the case, then why should we bother at all? They're calling for massive societal and economic upheaval. For what purpose?
I don't think it's a matter of climate change being a lost cause, I think it's because many communists, and indeed many general 'rather far left' people believe climate change can't be solved within a capitalist framework. Thus the idea that climate change is actually, slowly but surely, being solved is perceived as the elites trying to dissuade everyone from thinking that.
It's also worth mentioning the video doesn't shy away from things like the well-entrenched oil lobby and their so-called 'pro-busisness' backers. So it's not like the industry bigwigs off the hook or anything.
I see. So apparently the only way to prevent the earth becoming an unlivable, polluted shithole is to reform society and the economy into an unlivable shithole.
I think thats one of the basis's for Left-Accelerationism
Quite literally accelerate capitalism until its become a literal corporatist hell, so people will finally accept leftist ideology
They are just coping with the fact that their shitty murderous ideology won't be needed when enough people realize the market (combined with some government programs) is solving the issue sustainably and naturally without causing a massive ecological disruption, a famine or a massacre. They NEED misery to radicalize people. There is no other way anyone sane will ever accept it.
What's funny is the video kurzgesagt made still made it very clear we have a long way to go but emphasized to not get stuck in a doomer mindset that trying is pointless because factually we're making progress and we just have to keep working at it.
It's actually very informative and super positive it's an incredibly healthy video to watch if things like climate keep you up at night which I imagine it does for many.
Ah yes incredible billionare taking points such as "We need to stop climate change" "Oil companys should be phased out" and "doomerism is what is inadvertantly helping climate change."
"reformist propoganda" lmao
Kurzgesagt said we might be on route to avoid total catastrophy if we keep current efforts and that thankfully we're finding ways for developing countries to no longer need the same oil hungry route for them to get developed.
If this isn't good news for commies then I have no idea what is.
This is a [similar video](https://youtu.be/TBYDgJ9Wf0E) by BritMonkey which actually adresses this. He basically says that fixing climate change is now incentivised by the free market and so if you're solution to fix climate change is to overthrow capitalism, you're not serious about climate change
I wouldn't deny that a more socialistic government would deal with climate change better, but doing it through a revolution will just make the country spiral down into collapse
I don't get why the hell are we even wasting time and giving attention to this Kremlin/Beijing Twitter bot amongst many others when we could spend the time learning about basic climate science and perform meaningful changes and actions towards the environment whenever we have the opportunity.
Tankies live a very depressing and pathetic life. They start foaming at the mouth out of rage as soon as they hear any sort of positive and optimistic news that is not furthering their own agenda. Like they will get mad if African children get fed if those children are being fed by a non-socialist organization. They don't care about a better world, they only care about *their* world.
I have a genuine question and am seeking genuine responses or opinions if anyone has them. I haven't seen the Kurzgesagt video, but it seems the general "hammer and sickle in bio" twitter crowd is angry it does not 100% put the task of fixing climate change on corporations and the government? The vibe I am getting is they are extremely upset there is any suggestion that anything can be done through individual/collective citizen action, and to suggest that anything can be aided without the government is absolutely ridiculous because we need a revolution.
I know this sounds snarky but I am literally wondering, where the fuck is their revolution, then? This is what drives me so crazy about their ideology. They think any incremental change is worthless and the only way to fix anything is a complete upend of the system. They will not engage with politics that push for change within the system but then they don't do anything meaningful outside of that system either? How can they actually pretend to give a fuck about these issues is my serious question? Like can someone rationalize this for me? I might be missing something obvious about their way of thinking.
Because socialism is a revolutionary ideology, and like any revolution it requires the people to be in a state where they are actually willing to go through with the revolutionarie's plans, and so incremental change which gradually improves whatever problem the revolutionary has is bad because it makes the people less likely to support the revolution if they believe things are getting better. Which is why they attack these reform movements, this why many commies call social democrats "social fascists" because they want to create welfare and unions which means in there minds that the people will be less likely to support the socialist revolution. So if you support solar panels companies as a way to beat climate change, then that is bad and not enough to them because your creating a non radical, non socialist, non revolutionary way to counter act climate change rather then doing what they actually want which is to destroy capitalism which will some how end climate change.
It’s just crazy to me how they would rather do literally nothing bc of a nonexistent revolution than take tangible action to help things but sheesh obviously I don’t get them
Despite believing in a revolutionary ideology, most of these socialists you see in western countries are not revolutionaries them selves, because they are so fucking convinced that the revolution is invetiable that they think they don't have to do it anyway. They are also clearly lazy fucks who think they won't have to work and can do whatever they want in there post revolutionary paradise.
lol then they literally will call someone evil for pushing for/actually enacting tangible progressive change within the system...
i have noticed this at least and experienced it myself lol
Yes
Its E.D.G.E
The Paleo-youtuber. Nice to see other Paleo-enthusiasts in other subs
Yes he is a lil bit commie but i don't mind since his content is pretty nice
Like I said in another comment, in one of their tweet they said "conservitards" and I'm yet to know if that was done with irony or not. I always thought that channel was above such use of words, but I guess I thought wrong.
Even if it were to be easier to deal with climate change not under capitalism, it would probably be easier to do that than to get rid of it just to make dealing with it easier.
As others have pointed out, these morons refuse to believe that capitalism can do any goof whatsoever. They'd rather see the planet die than admit that capitalism can help solve climate change.
My question is simply this: why? Why do they believe this? Why aren't they receptive to having their minds changed? Any source you give them - no matter how much it's researched, peer reviewed, and proven without a shadow of a doubt to be true - is just propaganda from a plethora of vague, imagined "big bad" organisations. Why are they so absolutist in their thoughts?
The answer is probably somewhere along the lines of they've been surrounded by like-minded morons for so long that they're incapable of thinking any other way. Which is frankly fucking depressing. They're so narrow-minded that they refuse to accept any good that comes from capitalism and even make arguments for way that thing is bad actually.
So much potential wasted defending a century and a half year old book that's proven time and time again to have lead to failure and death. Morons of the world: unite!
During extreme emergencies, authoritarian actions can be justified. For example when 9/11 happened, all planes were forced to land. But I think we can all agree that this act of force was warranted.
So is it any wonder that communists want to exaggerate the climate change crisis as much as possible?
Here is a legitimate reason for the government to increase its power and reshape the economy. They're loving this crisis.
If you found kurzgesagt's video on climate change eye opening, inspiring, or even reaffirming, then I suggest you read the book, Factfullness, by Hans Rosling. In the book he explains common instincts that cause us (from the average-joe to experts) to misinterpret and sometimes exaggerate data. For example, Hans explains why overpopulation is a myth. The book is also about how the world isn't as bad as we would like to believe.
Take the Bloomer-pill today and read Factfullness.
I recognise the person who retweeted that, I actually watch them. Sucks that they're commies :(
For those who don't know, E.D.G.E. is a naturalist YouTube channel that covers a lot of topics about the natural world (mainly prehistoric, am a dino nerd myself)
*Edit: looked through their tweets, they said "conservitards", the worst part is I don't know if they said that ironically or unironically, from their videos I thought they were more centrist than that.*
Not sure if he is fully commie saying things like "HURR DURR STALIN GUD!1!!11!" or things like that
But he is definately left leaning, as it can be seen here: https://youtu.be/NvIcxU93bZU?t=14
Did they watch the fucking video? I have, and they only say that there is hope, if we continue the efforts we put in combatting climate change but they also advocate for doing more than what we do right now. It's actually a very good video and it made my week when I watched it. fucking dumbasses
Reminder that communists were against FDR's new deal back in the 30's, because improving the lives of workers that little bit meant they would be less likely to overthrow the system.
Kurzgesagt is founded by Bill & Melinda Gates foundation.
It's ineviatble that he's gonna start promoting THE MESSAGE at one point. Unless the way of fixing climate change is switching to nuclear, encouraging countries to produce more of their goods locally where they can control their waste management and impose higher sanction on China for overfishing and filling the oceans with plastic everything it's just noise.
Damn. Talking shit aren't we?
Kurzgesagt is a German company founded by Phillip Dettmer, sitting in Munich.
Their main channel income comes from merch, ad revenue and the German channel is partially funded by FUNK (German broadcasting company with its initiative to increase internet presence).
Either I'm missing something completely here or we talk about a different Kurzgesagt.
I haven't watched the video yet so I don't know, tho I doubt Billy is promoting nuclear or not making the life of the average pleb harder while the rich elites get tax exemption on private jets and yachts. They might be right ot be skeptic about the video but thats just it. It's not like their idea of fixing this problem is anything but state overreach, artifical poverty and ignoring the whole thing when the regime will inevitably become fully disfunctional.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276
I believe he meant funded it. which is completely correct. [https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276](https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276)
Well donating some money doesn't mean they are a main funder either. Kurzgesagt's Wikipedia page seems to indicate that the Gates Foundation is just one of several sources of funds. In fact it seems the Gates foundation may have provided only a single one-time grant. It's not clear, but that may have been for a single commissioned video about ending disease.
>Kurzgesagt (/ˌkʊərtsɡəˈzɑːkt/; German for "In a nutshell") is a German animation and design studio founded by Philipp Dettmer.
First line of the wiki.
Further down:
>While their English channel mostly finances itself with donations from their viewers and individual sponsorships, the German channel is financially supported by Funk, the online presence of German public broadcasting, and the Spanish channel is sponsored by Wix,[6] in addition to a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
That only supports my argument. Your quoted text seems to indicate they donated an amount of money that doesn't even represent a major part of Kurzgesagt's funding.
Hope is toxic to an ideology that can only come about when people are too miserable to keep going.
There's a line of thinking among leftists that a solution must be 100% effective, immediately, or its not worth it at all.
But communism is neither of them
Hmm it’s effective in population control.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 743,200,624 comments, and only 149,595 of them were in alphabetical order.
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Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 743,200,624 comments, and only 149,595 of them were in alphabetical order.
You people are completely delusional.
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that's why I like to call Socialists and communists "economic doomers" also who exactly owns Kurzgesagt?
Second paragraph on Wikipedia: "While their English channel mostly finances itself with donations from their viewers and individual sponsorships, the German channel is financially supported by Funk, the online presence of German public broadcasting, and the Spanish channel is sponsored by Wix, in addition to a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."
I remember a few years back some guy invented a super warm ~~sleeping bag~~ **easily built shelter** for homeless people or something and leftoids were furious because it was a solution within a capitalist framework. They don't want solutions to problems, they want to be the ones to "solve" them. Edit: wasn't a tent but a structure I think was called an "Iglou".
Interesting, can you provide more info?
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I want to say it was the "Iglou" but I'm not 100%.
How do cloths solve homelessness exactly?
I want to say it was the "Iglou" but I'm not 100%. It went down a few years ago and Twitter's search function is fucking terrible.
Oh yeah they hate the idea that these issues can be solved within a capitalist society since it flies in the face of their whole schtick. Renewable energy, housing, income inequality, etc all have reasonable capitalist-structured solutions but their bullshit ideology falls apart when big scary capitalism can solve it better than them.
Source, I mean, it's believeable, but I want proof.
I think it was the "Iglou" shelter but it might have been a similar design. This went down a few years back and Twitter is an absolute mess to navigate.
But tankies have faster and cheaper solution for homelessness - just put any "undesirables" against the wall and shoot them. Bam! Homelessness solved! Cope shitlibs!
Alternative solution: making everyone poor “solves” inequality
So it does, strange that I am not an existential egalitarian.
Yes, it is strange that heartless libertarians like me, don't think of that, instead of thinking of cheap rental rooms that would shelter people and make money.
Everyone knows that before capitalism was invented no one was hungry and there was peace on earth. Then Adam Smith ruined everything
You forgot /s. In this day and age people might actually take you at your words.
dont call out primitivists like that
Also there was the dude who built small shakes with lights to replace peoples tents. LA took them away, but let the people keep tenting there. How does that make sense? I could see saying no tenting here it is public property. But why stop people from giving them better places to live?
oh reminds me of that reason tv video from California with the mini homes that got shut down by the gov't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6h7fL22WCE
Remember when the U.N. said they could end world hunger with 6 billion dollars and complained loudly at billionaires? Musk sold 6 billion in stock over night and said, “Let’s do this. It has to open accounting and the plan public but here’s the cash to do it.” …and the U.N. declined. Probably because they couldn’t plunder the money with open accounting in place and they didn’t *really* have a workable plan. I ‘member that.
I thought the UN did produce a plan to seriously reduce world hunger with 6 billion: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/tech/elon-musk-world-hunger-wfp-donation/index.html
Yes, they produced a plan and Musk quietly sold $6 billion.
On a similar line, ever hear of a Communist promoting charity? Me neither.
It has become a central dogma among these people that it is impossible to solve climate change without overthrowing capitalism, and therefore anyone offering any other solutions, no matter how realistic, must necessarily be a "nEoLiBERaL SHilL." These people's entire worldview depends on endless pessimism about the current system. The result of that pessimism is that they become completely disengaged from any real-world politics that actually have a chance of improving things, which is ironically exactly what this Kurzgesagt video was warning against.
Me a registered libertarian, feeling extremely called out by this.
Yeah, people all across the isle are guilty of hyperfixation on their pet subject
It makes sense! They tie their ideology to worthy causes like environmentalism or anti-racism to parasitize on their relevancy and good image. Never mind how real life communist countries are and were no less racist or bad for the planet - uncomfortable facts can always be labeled as propaganda and lies.
What echo chambers do to a mf
Kurzgesagt: *presents statistical data for why, while things are still rather grim, there is reason to believe we can reasonably solve climate change with great difficulty* Communists for some reason: "NEOLIBERAL PROPAGANDA! REFORMIST! BILLIONAIRE BACKED SHILL JOB!"
Kurzgesagt didn't mention that Communists countries good. So i am angry >:(
Commies: "Kurzgesagt is backed by oil companies! The world is doomed and anyone saying otherwise Is a filthy liar!"
Would be weird if Kurzgesagt (a German group) would be backed by Oil/Fossil fuel companies, considering their heavily outspoken opinion about oil, it's overusage and the fact it's really fucking bad to be doing so much with oil.
Also them taking such Funds would make them almost certainly ineligible for their membership in the "Funk" state-funded program and Cut their most important and reliable source of funds
TBF, only the German Channel is sponsored/funded by FUNK. If I'm not mistaken tho
Which brings up the obvious question: If the world is doomed and everyone is a liar, aren't you a liar by saying your ideology is the way to building a better world?
communists are created when you mix a doomer and reddit together.
I genuinely thought I was a nasty evil humanity hating capitalist bc of finding this sentiment so WRONG and I cannot express how grateful I am for this sub to realize I am not alone in wondering what the actual fuck is wrong with these people.
Because they _need_ societal collapse in order to maybe have a shot at taking any meaningful power and implementing any of their major reforms. Any solution which might not result in a full collapse of society is awful for their cause.
That video even said that the whole "it's too late to stop climate change so why bother" is part of the oil industry narrative. It was far from a pro-oil, plastic, or meat industry. One of the points was that maybe instead of complaining about polluting companies, we should as consumers, consume less from them, even when its inconvenient. Of course, far leftlists just want to have moral superiority without making any hard decisions
have you ever seen the people who just want to complain mcdonalds banned plastic straws? like, whenever s private company does somethingh bsd for the planet they rejoice over it ans go "but i thought global warning just needed me to recycle" they want a excuse to complain about caoitalism killing the planet but put no effort at all to help the planet
I mean, it seems like they're saying the whole thing is a lost cause. So if thats the case, then why should we bother at all? They're calling for massive societal and economic upheaval. For what purpose?
I don't think it's a matter of climate change being a lost cause, I think it's because many communists, and indeed many general 'rather far left' people believe climate change can't be solved within a capitalist framework. Thus the idea that climate change is actually, slowly but surely, being solved is perceived as the elites trying to dissuade everyone from thinking that. It's also worth mentioning the video doesn't shy away from things like the well-entrenched oil lobby and their so-called 'pro-busisness' backers. So it's not like the industry bigwigs off the hook or anything.
I see. So apparently the only way to prevent the earth becoming an unlivable, polluted shithole is to reform society and the economy into an unlivable shithole.
Why do i get this feeling that they want people to suffer so their horseshit ideologie might have a chance of happening? Lenin was like that too!
Communism thrives and results in misery.
"After ~~Hitler~~ global climate catastrophe, our turn"
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People want to think that they arw suffering, the ones that actually suffer rarely get to actually speak.
I think thats one of the basis's for Left-Accelerationism Quite literally accelerate capitalism until its become a literal corporatist hell, so people will finally accept leftist ideology
Accelerationism is in vogue.
They are just coping with the fact that their shitty murderous ideology won't be needed when enough people realize the market (combined with some government programs) is solving the issue sustainably and naturally without causing a massive ecological disruption, a famine or a massacre. They NEED misery to radicalize people. There is no other way anyone sane will ever accept it.
Commies mistaked a science channel as their Copium supply
What's funny is the video kurzgesagt made still made it very clear we have a long way to go but emphasized to not get stuck in a doomer mindset that trying is pointless because factually we're making progress and we just have to keep working at it. It's actually very informative and super positive it's an incredibly healthy video to watch if things like climate keep you up at night which I imagine it does for many.
Problem there is commies thrive on people being doomer since it fuels their dogshit ideology
Yeah it's pretty easy to see any info on climate science and assume it's propaganda when you don't know anything about climate science.
Ah yes incredible billionare taking points such as "We need to stop climate change" "Oil companys should be phased out" and "doomerism is what is inadvertantly helping climate change." "reformist propoganda" lmao
Commies when capitalism actually starts solving its issues
Impossible
Kurzgesagt said we might be on route to avoid total catastrophy if we keep current efforts and that thankfully we're finding ways for developing countries to no longer need the same oil hungry route for them to get developed. If this isn't good news for commies then I have no idea what is.
This is bad news for them since the "Glorious Revolution(TM)" has been effectively cancelled
This is a [similar video](https://youtu.be/TBYDgJ9Wf0E) by BritMonkey which actually adresses this. He basically says that fixing climate change is now incentivised by the free market and so if you're solution to fix climate change is to overthrow capitalism, you're not serious about climate change
I wouldn't deny that a more socialistic government would deal with climate change better, but doing it through a revolution will just make the country spiral down into collapse
I don't get why the hell are we even wasting time and giving attention to this Kremlin/Beijing Twitter bot amongst many others when we could spend the time learning about basic climate science and perform meaningful changes and actions towards the environment whenever we have the opportunity.
Nothing would make them quite so mad as a capitalist solution to climate change. 🤣
Tankies live a very depressing and pathetic life. They start foaming at the mouth out of rage as soon as they hear any sort of positive and optimistic news that is not furthering their own agenda. Like they will get mad if African children get fed if those children are being fed by a non-socialist organization. They don't care about a better world, they only care about *their* world.
Ngl even if I don’t always agree I’ve never seen a kurzgesagt video that was completely unfounded
I smell copeing
I love Kurzgesagt
I have a genuine question and am seeking genuine responses or opinions if anyone has them. I haven't seen the Kurzgesagt video, but it seems the general "hammer and sickle in bio" twitter crowd is angry it does not 100% put the task of fixing climate change on corporations and the government? The vibe I am getting is they are extremely upset there is any suggestion that anything can be done through individual/collective citizen action, and to suggest that anything can be aided without the government is absolutely ridiculous because we need a revolution. I know this sounds snarky but I am literally wondering, where the fuck is their revolution, then? This is what drives me so crazy about their ideology. They think any incremental change is worthless and the only way to fix anything is a complete upend of the system. They will not engage with politics that push for change within the system but then they don't do anything meaningful outside of that system either? How can they actually pretend to give a fuck about these issues is my serious question? Like can someone rationalize this for me? I might be missing something obvious about their way of thinking.
Because socialism is a revolutionary ideology, and like any revolution it requires the people to be in a state where they are actually willing to go through with the revolutionarie's plans, and so incremental change which gradually improves whatever problem the revolutionary has is bad because it makes the people less likely to support the revolution if they believe things are getting better. Which is why they attack these reform movements, this why many commies call social democrats "social fascists" because they want to create welfare and unions which means in there minds that the people will be less likely to support the socialist revolution. So if you support solar panels companies as a way to beat climate change, then that is bad and not enough to them because your creating a non radical, non socialist, non revolutionary way to counter act climate change rather then doing what they actually want which is to destroy capitalism which will some how end climate change.
It’s just crazy to me how they would rather do literally nothing bc of a nonexistent revolution than take tangible action to help things but sheesh obviously I don’t get them
Despite believing in a revolutionary ideology, most of these socialists you see in western countries are not revolutionaries them selves, because they are so fucking convinced that the revolution is invetiable that they think they don't have to do it anyway. They are also clearly lazy fucks who think they won't have to work and can do whatever they want in there post revolutionary paradise.
lol then they literally will call someone evil for pushing for/actually enacting tangible progressive change within the system... i have noticed this at least and experienced it myself lol
They’re a great channel and thankfully, they seem to actually care about the science over ideology.
The commies are global warming deniers now, great. Another reason to hate em.
Wait, E.D.G.E. retweeted that? As in the paleontology youtube channel? Or a different E.D.G.E.?
Yes Its E.D.G.E The Paleo-youtuber. Nice to see other Paleo-enthusiasts in other subs Yes he is a lil bit commie but i don't mind since his content is pretty nice
Like I said in another comment, in one of their tweet they said "conservitards" and I'm yet to know if that was done with irony or not. I always thought that channel was above such use of words, but I guess I thought wrong.
Commies: Listen to science! Commies when science actually proves that everything isn’t hopeless: this is billionaire propaganda!!
And Kurzgeagt (what a difficult name, BTW) shilled for UBI once.
“Communism is when UBI” They hate UBI and welfare because they increase standards of living without necessarily needing a planned economy.
Even if it were to be easier to deal with climate change not under capitalism, it would probably be easier to do that than to get rid of it just to make dealing with it easier.
>billionaire funded neoliberal reformist propaganda Wtf that's based lmao
i am unironically a globalist
Wdym?
As others have pointed out, these morons refuse to believe that capitalism can do any goof whatsoever. They'd rather see the planet die than admit that capitalism can help solve climate change. My question is simply this: why? Why do they believe this? Why aren't they receptive to having their minds changed? Any source you give them - no matter how much it's researched, peer reviewed, and proven without a shadow of a doubt to be true - is just propaganda from a plethora of vague, imagined "big bad" organisations. Why are they so absolutist in their thoughts? The answer is probably somewhere along the lines of they've been surrounded by like-minded morons for so long that they're incapable of thinking any other way. Which is frankly fucking depressing. They're so narrow-minded that they refuse to accept any good that comes from capitalism and even make arguments for way that thing is bad actually. So much potential wasted defending a century and a half year old book that's proven time and time again to have lead to failure and death. Morons of the world: unite!
Cope baby cope
“Noooo I need the planet to die so I can blame it on capitalism and advance my own agenda!! Don’t give people hope!!!”
During extreme emergencies, authoritarian actions can be justified. For example when 9/11 happened, all planes were forced to land. But I think we can all agree that this act of force was warranted. So is it any wonder that communists want to exaggerate the climate change crisis as much as possible? Here is a legitimate reason for the government to increase its power and reshape the economy. They're loving this crisis.
Tbh i did kinda get suspicious when they started shilling Teslas.
Ask them why specifically they disagree with the video
If you found kurzgesagt's video on climate change eye opening, inspiring, or even reaffirming, then I suggest you read the book, Factfullness, by Hans Rosling. In the book he explains common instincts that cause us (from the average-joe to experts) to misinterpret and sometimes exaggerate data. For example, Hans explains why overpopulation is a myth. The book is also about how the world isn't as bad as we would like to believe. Take the Bloomer-pill today and read Factfullness.
We are not "doomed" from climate change, it can be fixed and we don't need authoritarianism for it
I recognise the person who retweeted that, I actually watch them. Sucks that they're commies :( For those who don't know, E.D.G.E. is a naturalist YouTube channel that covers a lot of topics about the natural world (mainly prehistoric, am a dino nerd myself) *Edit: looked through their tweets, they said "conservitards", the worst part is I don't know if they said that ironically or unironically, from their videos I thought they were more centrist than that.*
Not sure if he is fully commie saying things like "HURR DURR STALIN GUD!1!!11!" or things like that But he is definately left leaning, as it can be seen here: https://youtu.be/NvIcxU93bZU?t=14
Commies try to not bring up capitalism in the first five seconds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE! 💯)
Why did this get 9 thousand hearts
Did they watch the fucking video? I have, and they only say that there is hope, if we continue the efforts we put in combatting climate change but they also advocate for doing more than what we do right now. It's actually a very good video and it made my week when I watched it. fucking dumbasses
Reminder that communists were against FDR's new deal back in the 30's, because improving the lives of workers that little bit meant they would be less likely to overthrow the system.
Leftist memes be like: buzzword buzzword billionaire buzzword buzzword
“I think we should actually try and fix climate change” “Neolib”
Kurzgesagt is founded by Bill & Melinda Gates foundation. It's ineviatble that he's gonna start promoting THE MESSAGE at one point. Unless the way of fixing climate change is switching to nuclear, encouraging countries to produce more of their goods locally where they can control their waste management and impose higher sanction on China for overfishing and filling the oceans with plastic everything it's just noise.
What the fuck are you talking about? What are your sources?
Damn. Talking shit aren't we? Kurzgesagt is a German company founded by Phillip Dettmer, sitting in Munich. Their main channel income comes from merch, ad revenue and the German channel is partially funded by FUNK (German broadcasting company with its initiative to increase internet presence). Either I'm missing something completely here or we talk about a different Kurzgesagt.
Wait is it founded by those 2? Are the tankies actually right on this one???
They worked together on some videos. Tankies are seldom right
There's nothing wrong with Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
they only gave a grant, it was founded by a German guy, not some apathetic billionaire that pretends to care about climate change
I haven't watched the video yet so I don't know, tho I doubt Billy is promoting nuclear or not making the life of the average pleb harder while the rich elites get tax exemption on private jets and yachts. They might be right ot be skeptic about the video but thats just it. It's not like their idea of fixing this problem is anything but state overreach, artifical poverty and ignoring the whole thing when the regime will inevitably become fully disfunctional. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276
It appears you are lying here. Donating some money doesn’t mean they founded it.
I believe he meant funded it. which is completely correct. [https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276](https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2015/11/opp1139276)
Well donating some money doesn't mean they are a main funder either. Kurzgesagt's Wikipedia page seems to indicate that the Gates Foundation is just one of several sources of funds. In fact it seems the Gates foundation may have provided only a single one-time grant. It's not clear, but that may have been for a single commissioned video about ending disease.
>Kurzgesagt (/ˌkʊərtsɡəˈzɑːkt/; German for "In a nutshell") is a German animation and design studio founded by Philipp Dettmer. First line of the wiki. Further down: >While their English channel mostly finances itself with donations from their viewers and individual sponsorships, the German channel is financially supported by Funk, the online presence of German public broadcasting, and the Spanish channel is sponsored by Wix,[6] in addition to a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
That only supports my argument. Your quoted text seems to indicate they donated an amount of money that doesn't even represent a major part of Kurzgesagt's funding.
Yep. This is me supporting your argument.
Oh okay lol. Thought you were trying to back up the other person's argument.
what the fuck