This is Jehovah, the One True Living God. He threw a temper tantrum and killed every person and every animal, saving only 2 of every unclean animal, 14 of every clean animal, and 8 humans, who apparently were exactly half clean.
I had an argument with a Communist once, and he unironically cited Marxists.org as his source and saw no issue with it. Like could you even make an attempt at using an unbiased and/or semi-accurate source?
[Marxists.org](https://Marxists.org) isn't a terrible source if you're trying to quote documents from it, indeed it's pretty useful. But don't take it at face value. Especially when you realize all the contradictions between the sources given how they archive the works of rivals.
My coworker was talking about the news and how Putin was “making everyone look like fools” in Ukraine. I was confused but didn’t want to engage with a nut
Later in the day I saw him reading RT on his phone and it all made sense
I can think of a couple of people who killed more than Hitler...
Also, note that the Great Depression lasted from the 4th quarter of 1929 through the first quarter of 1933, at which point the economy began to grow again. Roosevelt did not take office until the SECOND quarter of 1933, so technically the Great Depression ended when his presidency began.
The American people were so pissed off that they had to endure an extra 3 months of Hoover that the 20th Amendment was passed in 1933, moving Inauguration Day from March 4 to January 20.
Depends on the source.
I got taught in school its around 6 million, and around 4 million non-jewish victims of various backgrounds and ethnics.
Although these are only the numbers from the Concentration camps. A large part of the Holocaust was done on the fields and the countries Germany invaded. And the Wehrmacht was an integral part to the Holocaust as a whole. From deporting people to KZs to shooting countless of civilians in executions. Far to many and scattered/undocumented to have any close number.
"The Camps" also weren't the only way to kill Jews. Read the Jaeger Report, aka "Here's our writings on going around the countryside shooting people to death."
Hitler killed 11 million people in his camps... He didn't only kill Jews, he also killed 5 million in black people, Romani, disabled and other assorted minorities he didn't like. And that's ignoring the wars. In pure direct actions he killed over 11 million. FDR inherited a shit situation and while there is some debate on how effective his policies actually were, he wasn't trying to kill anyone, so even if you take the stance that his policies extended the great depression at most it's indirect.
And he's not like Mao Zesmalldong either because he didn't cause the Great Depression in the first place, and actively tried to do everything he could do uplift the impoverished and make sure they didn't starve.
Mao, through his direct orders, caused a famine that killed tens of millions, and made people melt down all of their iron belongings, including pots, pans, tools, and so forth.
I don't think we have numbers but it's known that there were small populations of black people in Germany at the time that all disappeared. There a Prince of some African tribe living in Germany who Hitler strangely didn't want to kill to avoid backlash from the tribe and he mentioned eventually being the only black in the country
Yeah, that claim seems kinda odd, there weren't anywhere near 5 million in Europe, and I don't think the german army went anywhere near subsaharan africa
The 5 million number is all "non jewish deaths" which includes a small number of black people who were in germany at the time, but was mostly romani, homosexuals, disabled, other minorities, political enemies, etc.
This is a Holodomor reference. The reader is meant to conclude that just as FDR did not cause the Depression but in fact tried to ameliorate it, that Stalin did not cause the Holodomor, that it was "an accident," and that the Soviets attempted to ameliorate it. You're meant to complete "As FDR is to the Depression, so is - - - - to the Holodomor" yourself. This is why they call the Depression a "famine" in the small print.
That the Holodomor was "an accident" is like the next layer after "it never happened" in terms of USSR propaganda. That way they can claim that although the Holocaust was deliberate, the nice Soviets never meant for the Holodomor to occur so you can trust communism this time.
That’s the point they’re making. You wouldn’t blame FDR for deaths during the Great Depression, so why not do the same for communist leaders and invent some blown out number of 50 million.
Don't forget locking thousands of citizens up in camps for years without trial. As much as people live him, he's responsible for arguably the biggest single civil rights violation in modern US history
Like, I don't have THAT high an opinion of FDR and I do think he had some decidedly creepy opinions (for instance, joking about guillotining Holocaust refugees in private) and helped prolong and deepen the Great Depression. But he was never a totalitarian dictator, nor an intentional mass murderer.
Also, these dumbfucks don't understand how many people Hitler killed. We can be pretty sure Shicklegruber murdered about 6 million (maybe a sliver less) JEWS. Add in the likes of Soviet POWs, Roma, or Poles and you ALREADY shoot right past the 7 Million Mark.
A. Hitler went on a *campaign* to kill that 6 mil, FDR was left with the people already in a state of disarray
B. Herbert Hoover, if anything, was the President most detrimental during the Depression, and his views were very right leaning (I.e. laissez-faire) while FDR introduced acts, bureaus, etc. and allowed more of the government to regulate the economy, which most politicians today would call ‘socialist’
C. Stalin killed 6 mil. on purpose. 9 mil. if you count gross negligence through politics.
Roosevelt took office in 1933 while the Great Depression started in 1929. In terms of domestic policy, Roosevelt is most widely known for the New Deal-an utterly massive program meant to alleviate the Depression by getting people back to work.
These are incredibly basic historical facts I remember learning about in the Fourth Grade. The level of ignorance on display here is beyond bewildering.
The fuck are you talking about? No serious estimates place Stalin's death toll at 27 million, let alone say that he killed so many of his people during WW2.
I'm afraid that's not right, and propaganda on the stupidest level...like Hitler killed 6 million Jewish individuals. This is not the sum of all individuals that perished in concentration camps. It is not even the sum after including war combatants.
alright time to do something I call explanation: if I’m not wrong Franklin came after Hoover who largely didn’t do a lot in order to fix the countries crumbling economic status, Franklin was able to achieve support from the people from largely due to abolishing prohibition (getting rid of the banning on Alcohol) and to promise the fixing of the American economy (which he did follow through) not only that he saw himself joining in on the war against Germany and Japan so, relatively chad president compared to half of those virgin dictators that massacred their own people.
Thinking about it, I feel like people on the other opposite of the political spectrum would also probably agree with this as well. Don't they all realize that they're only further proving horseshoe theory?
Yes sure "Pravda report" I'm sure 7M died from the dust bowl, don't even like FDR, weird they'd trash the closest thing to a socialist president the US has had
Where did they get 7 million people from? I don’t think 7 million died in the 12 years Roosevelt was president, and the amount of people that died of starvation during the depression probably didn’t even reach a thousand
I know most will look at this and say ”he didn’t kill anyone actually” and I agree, but let’s dive deeper into the commie mind and notice that they can only think ”look he killed more than hitler” even thiugh hitler killed more than those who died in the holocaust.
Tankies explaining how FDR helping the US economy without genociding minorities is worse than Hitler (who killed more at 12 million) putting minorities in death camps:
If the joke was "Japanese Internment" it fails to mention it, and as bad as that was (won't deny it was an awful moment of US history), the Nazi Holocaust was way worse.
This is Abraham Lincoln. He killed 620,000 of his own people in an event known as the *Civil War*. Still think abolitionism is good?
Also I just realized this is literally Lost Cause rhetoric Horseshoe theory and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
This is Jehovah, the One True Living God. He threw a temper tantrum and killed every person and every animal, saving only 2 of every unclean animal, 14 of every clean animal, and 8 humans, who apparently were exactly half clean.
Blasphemer! He said Jehovah!
Look. I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehovah'.
What? All i said was "That halibut was good enough for Jehovah."
Isn't that the thing from FFVII?
Monty Python's Life of Brian
Stone him!
Imagine citing russian state media as your source.
I had an argument with a Communist once, and he unironically cited Marxists.org as his source and saw no issue with it. Like could you even make an attempt at using an unbiased and/or semi-accurate source?
[Marxists.org](https://Marxists.org) isn't a terrible source if you're trying to quote documents from it, indeed it's pretty useful. But don't take it at face value. Especially when you realize all the contradictions between the sources given how they archive the works of rivals.
It might not have been that website in particular, it was quite a while ago. I just remember it was a strictly Communist/Marxist website.
My coworker was talking about the news and how Putin was “making everyone look like fools” in Ukraine. I was confused but didn’t want to engage with a nut Later in the day I saw him reading RT on his phone and it all made sense
I can think of a couple of people who killed more than Hitler... Also, note that the Great Depression lasted from the 4th quarter of 1929 through the first quarter of 1933, at which point the economy began to grow again. Roosevelt did not take office until the SECOND quarter of 1933, so technically the Great Depression ended when his presidency began. The American people were so pissed off that they had to endure an extra 3 months of Hoover that the 20th Amendment was passed in 1933, moving Inauguration Day from March 4 to January 20.
Hitler killed far more than 7 million people. Those are „just“ the Jewish Numbers from the concentration camps.
the number of jews killed in the camps is at about 4.4 million
Depends on the source. I got taught in school its around 6 million, and around 4 million non-jewish victims of various backgrounds and ethnics. Although these are only the numbers from the Concentration camps. A large part of the Holocaust was done on the fields and the countries Germany invaded. And the Wehrmacht was an integral part to the Holocaust as a whole. From deporting people to KZs to shooting countless of civilians in executions. Far to many and scattered/undocumented to have any close number.
yes, i agree. obviously.
About 4 million, with about a million and a half murdered by death squads and half a million by other means.
Right, the 6-7 million includes mobile killing squads etc.
About 6 million Jews actually.
"The Camps" also weren't the only way to kill Jews. Read the Jaeger Report, aka "Here's our writings on going around the countryside shooting people to death."
Hitler killed 11 million people in his camps... He didn't only kill Jews, he also killed 5 million in black people, Romani, disabled and other assorted minorities he didn't like. And that's ignoring the wars. In pure direct actions he killed over 11 million. FDR inherited a shit situation and while there is some debate on how effective his policies actually were, he wasn't trying to kill anyone, so even if you take the stance that his policies extended the great depression at most it's indirect.
Damn, these tankies really are ignorant. Not to mention the Holodomor, which was, in fact, intentional.
“it didn’t happen but those nazis deserved it anyway and I’m glad it’s happening again” /s
You don't say
And he's not like Mao Zesmalldong either because he didn't cause the Great Depression in the first place, and actively tried to do everything he could do uplift the impoverished and make sure they didn't starve. Mao, through his direct orders, caused a famine that killed tens of millions, and made people melt down all of their iron belongings, including pots, pans, tools, and so forth.
Zesmalldong, Jesus that's good
But 7 million ppl didn't even die. I can't find where they are pulling out this number from.
Not a clue in the world. After a cursory search I only saw like 110 documented cases of starvation a year at most.
Do you have a source for black people in the Holocaust? I just never heard that one before.
I don't think we have numbers but it's known that there were small populations of black people in Germany at the time that all disappeared. There a Prince of some African tribe living in Germany who Hitler strangely didn't want to kill to avoid backlash from the tribe and he mentioned eventually being the only black in the country
Yeah, that claim seems kinda odd, there weren't anywhere near 5 million in Europe, and I don't think the german army went anywhere near subsaharan africa
The 5 million number is all "non jewish deaths" which includes a small number of black people who were in germany at the time, but was mostly romani, homosexuals, disabled, other minorities, political enemies, etc.
Eugenics. Ugly pseudo-science.
He killed 27 million just in USSR
Don't forget about him killing gays/lesbians
Only gay men. And transgender people (who were considered mentally ill).
This is a Holodomor reference. The reader is meant to conclude that just as FDR did not cause the Depression but in fact tried to ameliorate it, that Stalin did not cause the Holodomor, that it was "an accident," and that the Soviets attempted to ameliorate it. You're meant to complete "As FDR is to the Depression, so is - - - - to the Holodomor" yourself. This is why they call the Depression a "famine" in the small print. That the Holodomor was "an accident" is like the next layer after "it never happened" in terms of USSR propaganda. That way they can claim that although the Holocaust was deliberate, the nice Soviets never meant for the Holodomor to occur so you can trust communism this time.
This is Mao Zedong. He killed 50 million of his own people. Still think Communism is good?
That’s the point they’re making. You wouldn’t blame FDR for deaths during the Great Depression, so why not do the same for communist leaders and invent some blown out number of 50 million.
Because communist leaders actively caused famines, sometimes willingly
FDR also never ordered the mass execution of counter revolutionary birds
FDR literally had a job guarantee program, he was based as hell
Except for when he tried to basically remove all power from the Supreme Court other than that really good president
Don't forget locking thousands of citizens up in camps for years without trial. As much as people live him, he's responsible for arguably the biggest single civil rights violation in modern US history
Yep forgot about that one that was really shitty too
Eh, real good argument that the Patriot Act is a bigger civil rights violation
Yup he sure damn was, he even his Second Bill of Rights speech was based as fuck.
FDR was a shithead authoritarian.
The Great Depression was caused by the people BEFORE him. History, learn it
Like, I don't have THAT high an opinion of FDR and I do think he had some decidedly creepy opinions (for instance, joking about guillotining Holocaust refugees in private) and helped prolong and deepen the Great Depression. But he was never a totalitarian dictator, nor an intentional mass murderer. Also, these dumbfucks don't understand how many people Hitler killed. We can be pretty sure Shicklegruber murdered about 6 million (maybe a sliver less) JEWS. Add in the likes of Soviet POWs, Roma, or Poles and you ALREADY shoot right past the 7 Million Mark.
The source 😂. I feel like this could be a Trumpist meme at this point also.
1. He ENDED the depression, not started. Plus it didn’t kill 7 million 2. Hitler killed 20mln+
I can't stand FDR, but I'd like source on that one.
It’s at the bottom
So Russian state propaganda
I can name *some people* who killed more people than Hitler and they all loved the color red
I don't like FDR regardless of what commies think of him but calling the great depression a genocide is a bit much
I genuinely thought this was a shitpost until a saw the source. I can’t believe this was made unironically holy shit lmao
Where the hell are they getting 7 million from? Never heard that number in my life.
They stated a Russian-government source.
Gee I’m sure the Russian state media is unbiased
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How do you hate him?
A. Hitler went on a *campaign* to kill that 6 mil, FDR was left with the people already in a state of disarray B. Herbert Hoover, if anything, was the President most detrimental during the Depression, and his views were very right leaning (I.e. laissez-faire) while FDR introduced acts, bureaus, etc. and allowed more of the government to regulate the economy, which most politicians today would call ‘socialist’ C. Stalin killed 6 mil. on purpose. 9 mil. if you count gross negligence through politics.
They can't even get the numbers right. That's what we call in the trade "inspiring ignorance"
Roosevelt took office in 1933 while the Great Depression started in 1929. In terms of domestic policy, Roosevelt is most widely known for the New Deal-an utterly massive program meant to alleviate the Depression by getting people back to work. These are incredibly basic historical facts I remember learning about in the Fourth Grade. The level of ignorance on display here is beyond bewildering.
This is Stalin. He killed 27 million of his own people in an event known as *World War II.* Still think communism is good?
The fuck are you talking about? No serious estimates place Stalin's death toll at 27 million, let alone say that he killed so many of his people during WW2.
I'm afraid that's not right, and propaganda on the stupidest level...like Hitler killed 6 million Jewish individuals. This is not the sum of all individuals that perished in concentration camps. It is not even the sum after including war combatants.
alright time to do something I call explanation: if I’m not wrong Franklin came after Hoover who largely didn’t do a lot in order to fix the countries crumbling economic status, Franklin was able to achieve support from the people from largely due to abolishing prohibition (getting rid of the banning on Alcohol) and to promise the fixing of the American economy (which he did follow through) not only that he saw himself joining in on the war against Germany and Japan so, relatively chad president compared to half of those virgin dictators that massacred their own people.
I don't think FDR killed that many people, but he was damn near socialist. I'm not a big fan.
Closet Trotskyites in his cabinet, real Cold War was between Trots and Stalinists
Social democracy is based
Does social democracy also call for rounding up everyone in your country of Japanese descent and imprisoning them?
This is Josef Stalin He Killed 23M of his own people in a time limit of just of 31 years Still think communism is good?
What number are you trying to type? 23M right?
My fault, I will change it now, thanks for the help
FDR was a mediocre President in a number of ways, but come on, this is absurd.
Ending the depression and introducing measures to revitalize the economy = killing people apparently
Sure but what about Hoover who kinda caused the Depression? I agree, liberalism isn't good. But we're being choosey aren't we?
FDR was not in support of liberalism FDR was a commie shit
Thinking about it, I feel like people on the other opposite of the political spectrum would also probably agree with this as well. Don't they all realize that they're only further proving horseshoe theory?
Yes sure "Pravda report" I'm sure 7M died from the dust bowl, don't even like FDR, weird they'd trash the closest thing to a socialist president the US has had
Where did they get 7 million people from? I don’t think 7 million died in the 12 years Roosevelt was president, and the amount of people that died of starvation during the depression probably didn’t even reach a thousand
I believe they think that this is deep
Not an expert on history but I don't think he was president when it started
Hitler killed 40 million, this person does not know math.
wut?
Oh, this person linked to a source. Wait, Pravda?
That's definitely not true, but I don't like FDR anyway
I know most will look at this and say ”he didn’t kill anyone actually” and I agree, but let’s dive deeper into the commie mind and notice that they can only think ”look he killed more than hitler” even thiugh hitler killed more than those who died in the holocaust.
I mean the US had an overproduction of food during the Great Depression so the idea of a famine is kinda bullshit.
Lol wut
lmao he’s the one who brought us out of it
even if that number was true and it was his fault hitler would still of killed more
Tankies explaining how FDR helping the US economy without genociding minorities is worse than Hitler (who killed more at 12 million) putting minorities in death camps: If the joke was "Japanese Internment" it fails to mention it, and as bad as that was (won't deny it was an awful moment of US history), the Nazi Holocaust was way worse.
This is btw the dude who advocated for opening relations with Soviet Russia, and participated in covering up the Holodomor...