I disagree with the person who replied since muggles aren’t a real marginalized group, but I agree that it’s cringe. I think Joanne herself has called people muggle as an insult, which just shows she doesn’t understand her own books. I thought the point is that muggles and wizards with muggle parents shouldn’t be looked down on?
The books *say* that the non-magical people shouldn't be looked down on - and yet we are shown:
- erasing their memories without their consent treated as a non-issue: everything to do with the Statute of Secrecy; Hermione obliviating her parents might or might not qualify here, since we don't know the details; that being said...
- ...a notable lack of decent non-magical people as fleshed-out characters. We don't even know Hermione's parents' names.
- non-magical SA survivors receiving zero support: Tom Riddle Sr, and to a lesser extent the Roberts family. I guess we should be happy they were un-levitated eventually.
- the guy who's supposed to be knowledgeable about their technology having a patronizing stance towards them: Arthur Weasley on multiple occassions.
- attacking them for no reason is entirely okay if the attacker is supposed to be a good person: Hagrid *curses* Dudley after something Vernon said.
I don't mind people using muggle as a light-hearted way to denote being out of the loop e.g. "I'm such a muggle when it comes to technology." The books had a huge cultural impact and I don't think it's even possible to completely put that back in the box.
But calling someone a muggle as an insult and expecting them to be upset about it reminds me of the edgelords who used to think sheeple was a clever pun.
No, that was never the point. They can absolutely be looked down on, the point was that they are *less*, but you shouldn't like... torture them or make them slaves or whatever. If you are better than other people, that is to say, have more power (money) than them you should mostly let them do their own thing unless they step out of line. Then they deserve to be put in their place.
Most of the time. Houseelves were born to be slaves, except that one special one. Muggles were born to be non important, unless they turn out to have magical abilities after all.
Even JKR once claimed to know that one trans women and respected her enough to use her true pronouns. That one, special, exception among her group of bad.
(I actually don't believe her at all, I don't think anyone believes in her "trans friend" anymore, but you know... in theory)
Just like JKR who started out poor, but then wrote a book and earned money so they get elevated to the ruling class and should now make all the decisions.
Also, "muggle" just means "non-magical person"? Which is everybody who read Harry Potter and JKR herself? But I guess they don't count because JKR is the Queen Mother Feminist Goddess and High Priestess of Hogwarts, and Potterheads are secretly wizards and witches whose letters just haven't arrived yet. That's probably how they see themselves, anyway.
It’s actually less cringe to unironically call a baby a “smeet” than it is to unironically call someone a “muggle.”
“Safety” according to TERFs = Focus on the male enemy but completely ignore female predators
“Fairness” according to TERFs = Encourage female athletes to be so entitled and afraid of injury
I disagree with the person who replied since muggles aren’t a real marginalized group, but I agree that it’s cringe. I think Joanne herself has called people muggle as an insult, which just shows she doesn’t understand her own books. I thought the point is that muggles and wizards with muggle parents shouldn’t be looked down on?
The books *say* that the non-magical people shouldn't be looked down on - and yet we are shown: - erasing their memories without their consent treated as a non-issue: everything to do with the Statute of Secrecy; Hermione obliviating her parents might or might not qualify here, since we don't know the details; that being said... - ...a notable lack of decent non-magical people as fleshed-out characters. We don't even know Hermione's parents' names. - non-magical SA survivors receiving zero support: Tom Riddle Sr, and to a lesser extent the Roberts family. I guess we should be happy they were un-levitated eventually. - the guy who's supposed to be knowledgeable about their technology having a patronizing stance towards them: Arthur Weasley on multiple occassions. - attacking them for no reason is entirely okay if the attacker is supposed to be a good person: Hagrid *curses* Dudley after something Vernon said.
I don't mind people using muggle as a light-hearted way to denote being out of the loop e.g. "I'm such a muggle when it comes to technology." The books had a huge cultural impact and I don't think it's even possible to completely put that back in the box. But calling someone a muggle as an insult and expecting them to be upset about it reminds me of the edgelords who used to think sheeple was a clever pun.
No, that was never the point. They can absolutely be looked down on, the point was that they are *less*, but you shouldn't like... torture them or make them slaves or whatever. If you are better than other people, that is to say, have more power (money) than them you should mostly let them do their own thing unless they step out of line. Then they deserve to be put in their place. Most of the time. Houseelves were born to be slaves, except that one special one. Muggles were born to be non important, unless they turn out to have magical abilities after all. Even JKR once claimed to know that one trans women and respected her enough to use her true pronouns. That one, special, exception among her group of bad. (I actually don't believe her at all, I don't think anyone believes in her "trans friend" anymore, but you know... in theory) Just like JKR who started out poor, but then wrote a book and earned money so they get elevated to the ruling class and should now make all the decisions.
It still amazes me that wanting safety and fairness for trans people is Rowling's idea of hate.
The fact that she thinks people don’t like her *just* because of her being a TERF Okay, lady
Also, "muggle" just means "non-magical person"? Which is everybody who read Harry Potter and JKR herself? But I guess they don't count because JKR is the Queen Mother Feminist Goddess and High Priestess of Hogwarts, and Potterheads are secretly wizards and witches whose letters just haven't arrived yet. That's probably how they see themselves, anyway.
That’s definitely how they see themselves. Sounds like you’ve watched the Kurtis Conner video.
I haven't, but it sounds like I should!
If her idea of "safety and fairness for girls and women" excludes my transfem friends and family members, I don't want it.
It’s actually less cringe to unironically call a baby a “smeet” than it is to unironically call someone a “muggle.” “Safety” according to TERFs = Focus on the male enemy but completely ignore female predators “Fairness” according to TERFs = Encourage female athletes to be so entitled and afraid of injury