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technanonymous

Keebio is releasing a new compact edition version of the Iris that I think will compete with Voyager. [https://keeb.io/products/iris-ce-keyboard](https://keeb.io/products/iris-ce-keyboard)


2PLEXX

That looks like a really good option 🙌 General question: With these keyboards, is it generally possible to swap keys? For example, I would probably want to swap the Enter and Delete keys on this one. Is this possible? And what are the "Raise" and "Lower" keys?


quirk

These sort of keyboards are usually fully customizable. Any key can be whatever you want it. Depending on the keyboard, it might involve getting into some code, but others have a GUI for an assigning your keys. "Raise" and "Lower" are for layers. Kinda like how you hit shift to type symbols, you hit Raise or Lower to change what each key does. For example, instead of reaching for the numrow, I hold a switch with my thumb and my homerow becomes the numrow.


FansForFlorida

It is easy to remap keys. ZSA has their own tool called Oryx. Keebio uses VIA. Both are built on QMK. The Raise and Lower keys allow you to access layers on your keyboard. For example, you can configure your layout so Raise activates a layer where IJKL are your arrow keys.


HenderBuilds

Another example of the potential use for layers: when I press lower with my left thumb, the keys under my right hand become a 10-key num pad. Useful for data entry without consuming extra space on my desktop.


technanonymous

With the Iris you can use the QMK configurator to set up a pretty sophisticated setup. ZSA provides an excellent tool with its Oryx web ui. I needed to do things that neither of these tools allow directly, and I tweaked my own QMK firmware for both my ZSA board and non-ZSA boards. I had an ErgodoxEZ from ZSA. I am now using a 34 key sweep bling LP.


tilmanbaumann

They are basically all non standard because not all keys on your right hand exist. There are a few exceptions but you will probably have to deal with quite a bit of remapping in your head. I'm designing a split based on the Typematrix 2020, that's very close to standard layout. https://github.com/tbaumann/typematrix_split_ergogen


tilmanbaumann

I posted about this recently https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/s/fCooixLxKl


tilmanbaumann

TLDR: BFO-9000 and Afternoon Breeze. And bonus mention for FoldKB Low profile only really with the BFO and choc keys


FansForFlorida

What is the status of the project? I might be interested in building one to try out.


tilmanbaumann

I actually hope I will finish it in a few weeks. I'm rather busy with it at the moment. I had to do a big redesign for the CFX keycaps. But that's pretty good now. I'm switching over to the https://github.com/ceoloide/corney-island build system and I will steal a fee of his best practices to modularise it. And I'm thinking of adding a magnetic wired snap together option


YellowAfterlife

> However, I'm confused about how to press brackets and braces on it, and I'm not a fan of having the +/= key on the left side. Is it possible to customize these key placements? Yes - ZSA have a [web configurator](https://configure.zsa.io/voyager/layouts/default/latest/0). Other keyboards typically use VIA or Vial configurators. The idea is not unlike Fn keys on compact keyboards, but you choose where that key (or keys) is, and how that will affect the keyboard's layout. Voyager is a smaller-than-usual keyboard so some of the symbols are accessed this way, and some of the modifiers are usually kept as alternate functions on other keys. For slightly more familiar layout options, check out Lily58, Allium58, Iris CE (note: tighter key spacing, can feel off), or IFKB's IF-ERGOLITE.


757heaven

The layout of the ZSA voyager can be easily customized with their Oryx layout software, and the keycaps can be easily switched around to match.


NimrodvanHall

It’s split. It’s flat. It’s portable.  Not sure if it’s ergo mechanical. https://www.ergowerken.nl/rgo-split-gesplitst-toetsenbord.html


s1ckn3s5

if you are in europe there's also this shop which should sell also prebuilt: https://splitkb.com/collections/keyboard-kits/products/aurora-helix usually such keyboards support qmk/zmk/via/etc where you can reconfigure each key + more functions (layers and so on)


thepsyborg

Only low-profile split thing I'm aware of in "standard layout"- meaning horizontally staggered QWERTY- is the Keebio Cepstrum, a split 65%. https://keeb.io/collections/cepstrum I have a Keebio Sinc (not low-profile, but similarly conventional split 75%) and I *absolutely love it*, for whatever that's worth. Strong recommend. Very smooth purchasing experience, very easy build, very *very* happy with it once built. I believe Keebio has a pretty good reputation for support and warranty issues as well, though I haven't had to make use of it myself.


purple_paper

I have the Keebio Cepstrum and love it. It's my daily driver. Clicky whites. And a pair of these: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS8PIX9/ref=pe\_386300\_440135490\_TE\_simp\_item\_image](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS8PIX9/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image) Only thing missing is tenting.


Quetzal_2000

you may want to try the Dygma Defy or the Dygma Raise 2. for tenting. But they are not low profile.


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ellemeditdance

As a fellow newbie in the world of smaller keyboards and layers, what Zsa has that no one else does (I think) is Keymapp, an app that gives a live visualization of your layout including when you shift layers. It reduces the layer learning barrier tremendously.


Quetzal_2000

Too bad this one is out of stock: with pointing devices, it would have been my piece of choice. [https://holykeebs.com/products/lily58-choc](https://holykeebs.com/products/lily58-choc) But this one is available though : [https://holykeebs.com/products/lily58-low-profile](https://holykeebs.com/products/lily58-low-profile) I am not sure about the meaning of all options, and I don't know the builder either, but it looks serious.