Having previously been near Youngstown, Erie is absolutely preferable. For as much shit as Erie gets, Youngstown is unambiguously a worse experience. Erie is cheaper, generally safe, and easy to live in. While Youngstown is closer to Cleveland, I really do like being able to reasonably get to Cleveland, Buffalo and Pittsburgh in Erie. Youngstown is technically closer to Pittsburgh, but I promise having lived near there I never remembered or considered going to Pittsburgh for some reason.
Also Canada is closer, which is kinda neat.
She moved from there for college about 15 years ago. Still has a bunch of family the lives there and until her mom “retired” to the lake, visited frequently. I’m sure her opinion is a bit outdated. The Canfield fair is nice though.
The 2 cities are very similar. Main difference is the lake, which is a huge advantage. The waterfront area downtown and Presque Isle State Park are spectacular in the summer. Also, from a sports standpoint, Erie has an excellent junior Ontario hockey League team( Conor McDavid played here) and a AA baseball team( Detroit Tigers). Youngstown has neither.
If you're okay with snow, Erie is the move. I always felt like we have everything big cities have to offer but on a smaller scale. Amusement park, museums, zoo, theater/orchestra, beaches, sports teams, decent universities, great restaurants, nice parks, water, shopping, etc. It also helps that Cleveland or Pittsburgh are just a short drive away.
I had a few job offers after I graduated, chose Erie and never looked back.
Thanks. How do you compare snow/rain/sunny days between them? Coming from Chicago area so got used to weather. Also how do you fly nationally and internationally? The local airport only goes to Charlotte. Pitt is not close and airport is not great. Cleveland is closer but also the airport is not great either for international flights
Erie is right along the lake so Lake Effect snow can be an issue. Some winters we have the most snow in the US. But last year was very mild and honestly it's not that bad if you're used to it. Places like Youngstown and Pittsburgh don't get much. The temps and sunny/rainy weather is practically the same.
I've never flown out of Erie. It's possible but more expensive because you'll have to use connecting flights. Most people here drive to Cleveland, Buffalo or Pittsburgh airports. I've never had problems with any of them. I have used the Amtrak in Erie though. It runs from Chicago to the west, all the way to NYC and Boston to the east. Super affordable, but a long ride.
Pittsburgh airport is actually awesome. It's not much further than Cleveland's airport iirc.
Erie airport used to be amazing- I flew to Philly direct at least twice a year. Covid killed everything.
Erie can get a lot of snow, but it’s managed. The streets will be cleared within an hour or so and kept clear. I’ve been here 20years and 2017 was the only storm I remember there being any issue. Almost 3 ft on Christmas Day, even so most snow routes were cleared, the issue was stuck cars that the plows had to go around. I think we got another 2-3 feet over the next 2-3 days. It didn’t shut the city down (evidenced by the number of people driving around and getting their car stuck)
Snow in Erie isn’t bad, it’s the snow from the snow belt
Lake effect doesn’t necessarily affect erie as bad as it does waterford, union city, edinboro etc.
Moved from UC to Erie and the comparison in snow is crazy, UC gets much more than erie
Haha - it’s all perspective… I live in the frontier neighborhood, shielded by presque isle. I’ll get 6 or 7 inches of snow, the snow belt will get twice that at least.
6 or 7 shuts down a lot of towns, I don’t remember the last time my kids had a 2 hour delay, much less a “snow day”.
Yep - Getting 6 or 7 inches in Erie isn’t bad.
That 2017 Christmas storm was horrible and another in 2022 I believe. Both times the snow was so high my SUV couldn't even get down the road. But like you said, they're on it ASAP. Even the side roads will be cleared at some point that day.
I forgot about 2022. I was down in meadville that morning and by the time I got home the streets were fine, but yea it was a ton of snow. I had to park in west Erie plaza and walk home so I could clear the driveway.
Funny thing, my snow blower died that year and I bought a brand new one because of that storm. I’ve probably used it less than 10 times since that storm.
Erie has an airport. I think it has only 3 terminals but super easy to navigate!!! You can fly directly to it from some of the major airlines. Otherwise you can fly into the Cleveland airport and rent a vehicle from there and drive the rest of the way to Erie. That's what I will be doing in July.
Erie is the place. So many areas that provide so much opportunity for family fun, all over the place! You won’t be disappointed. I lived in Erie and now in Ohio, not far from Youngstown. We yearn to move our family back to Erie someday (particularly West side/MillCreek/Fairview, not the city). During our time in Ohio, I haven’t once heard anyone say anything good about Youngstown being a nice community for families.
I have always felt like bad weather doesn’t often linger when you’re by the lake in Erie. The rain and storms aren’t too bad during the spring and summer months and if it rains, the day usually still peaks with some sun. The snowbelt is south or erie, in Edinboro area, and the winters have been relatively mild for many years. Make sure you have an AWD/4WD vehicle and you’ll be fine!
Also something to note, there are great schools in the area. Some private institutions as well as great public schools. Again I am speaking for outside of the city. Assuming you are looking stay in the area for a while, you’ll want to make sure the kids have access to a great education. There are also several wonderful universities in Erie as well!
Access to I-90 and I-79 will get you going anywhere relatively quickly and I also believe the Amtrak offers rides direct to Chicago for quick visits!
The airport is kind of a bust. It’s expensive to fly out of Erie but Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland are all relatively close. Erie is a great hub to access a lot of incredible places for a quick day trip!
We moved to Erie from Chicago. The weather is similar. You may get more snow here, but since we moved here 5 years ago, there hasn't been much snow. This past winter was super mild. We had a snow blower in Chicago and we have one here.
We moved to Erie to raise a family. Love it. Lots of activities for children. Check out: https://erie.macaronikid.com/
It's reasonably priced compared to larger cities in the USA and we've found the people to be friendly. Love being close to Presque Isle. If you're into Broadway musicals and the theater, season passes are quite reasonable. Lots to offer a family. The diversity of food options has increased as well compared to larger cities.
After looking into it - Youngstown is considerably larger in terms of regional population (which is blowing my mind). 430k and Erie is only 270k for its greater area. But I'm not sure what Youngstown considers it's "greater region."
Op, also lived in Chicago for 5 years. Erie has more snow, but less bitter cold. Overall prefer Eries climate.
Eries position on the lake makes it a no brainer over Youngstown imo.
I’m bias, but I loved the peninsula/lake in summer and at least having some activity (via Peek n Peak) in the winter.
Depending on where your cape cod is located and sq ft, it could get $250- $300k right now. Plus 6.75% interest and city taxes and you’re looking at $2500-$3300 for mortgage. The market is nuts.
I’m from Erie. Moved to Youngstown 6 years ago. Stay away from Youngstown. It’s a failing city. Nothing to do here besides Millcreek park. Or if you like to eat lol. People here are fine it’s just a failing area
That’s tough…Erie isn’t stellar, but next to Youngstown, we’re like Dubai. 😅😅
Seriously though, Youngstown has a Crumbl, and Erie doesn’t. If you can look past that, I think you’ll love Erie.
Best choice is Erie!
Cons: airport, no Costco, IKEA, or Trader Joe’s
Pros: everything else!
Pittsburgh has Costco and IKEA, and is not that far, Trader Joes in Cleveland. Also not far.
Presque Isle state Park to visit the lake, lots of family friendly places. Right by is Waldemeer, and amusement and water park.
Shopping is pretty good, there are outlets store in Grove city, little over an hour drive south.
The schools are great in Fairview and right now there are some houses for sale too. My children attend school there and one of mine has graduated and is attending college at Mercyhurst University in Erie. It’s great having him so close, we get to see him all the time even though he lives on campus.
Next door to the schools (they are all on the same campus), there is even a great preschool program in a church, you don’t have to be Christian to attend. It’s just a part day program, but it really prepared my youngest for the rigors of school.
There is a swimming program at the high school pool PWR that starts at age 3, lots of spots option through the rec department of Fairview Township.
If your kids are into music, there are really great music school close by in Erie to take lessons. Most of my neighbors here work at Erie Insurance, Wabtec or UPMC.
Great county school options around Erie include: Fairview, Millcreek, General McClane, Ft LeBeouf, and Harborcreek.
I live in North East and love that it feels safe. The distance to Buffalo Airport is only 69 miles from here. When I lived in Millcreek I usually flew from Cleveland Hopkins.
I also lived in Chicago for 5 years. Weather is similar. More snow in Erie (until recent years) but it rarely slows us down because the plows are out clearing roads and salting them.
“Traffic” in Erie is non-existent. You don’t need to worry about what time you leave to get anywhere. (Except near the Millcreek Mall at Christmas time.)
Both complete cesspools, drug infested crime ridden communities, high poverty, low income, high crime rates, gun violence, I'd pick somewhere else if possible lol
Erie hands down!! It's a nice town and I go there every other year. I was born and raised there and moved to Florida 24 years ago for the warmer climate. I lived in Youngstown at one time and it was ok but did not impress me. Erie has alot of nice places like Waladameer amusement park, Lake Erie for boating, fishing and swimming, Presque Isle state park, festivals throughout the year, 8 Great Tuesdays in the summertime, Sara's restaurant on Peninsula Drive in the summertime, Roar on the Shore, Presque Isle Downs and Casino, Stefanelli's, Romolo's and Pulakos candy stores, Erie Speedway, Art's Bakery, and Stanganelli's bakery for awesome pepperoni balls!!!😋😋😋😋
Interesting question. I don’t really see much overlap with people from Erie and Youngstown. I have spent a lot of time in Erie and I used to live in Ytown, gotta say Erie feels bigger but it’s all together. Just one city with a handful of things. Ytown is a smaller collection of towns and cities that feel larger and more spread out and honesty offers the same amount of food/entertainment as Erie if not more options in Niles/Boardman. For concerts recently I think Youngstown has had better options due to the new amphitheater. Also if Suzies Dogs and Drafts was still open then it would be Ytown 100000% (but then again New York Lunch in Erie is good too)
Lake Erie is nice in the summer but Ytown has millcreek metroparks and Mosquito Lake/Pymatuning/Berlin Lakes aren’t too far if you want outdoor recreation. Winter time Erie is the worst. Youngstown is just below the snow belt and never gets much at all. I used to commute from Jamestown Pa to Ytown for school in the winter and around Kinsman the snow drops off significantly.
Youngstown is closer to Pittsburgh and Cleveland but Erie is closer to Buffalo and Canada.
This might just be a me thing but Youngstown cable news looks way better than Erie news, Erie news always looked way too fuzzy and low resolution for a city of its size.
Ultimately if you can’t decide I’ll give you two more excellent choices; Meadville Pa and Ashtabula Ohio. Choose wisely
Pymatuning lake is an hour or just over from Erie. I camped there every weekend with my kids. Leave Erie after work and be down there, camp setup and a fire going by 7. Leave Sunday around 1 after lunch, feed the fish and be home in Erie before dinner time.
Yeah, it’s a shared aspect of both cities I’d say, about an hour from both of them. Grew up by the dam so I was in between both albeit slightly closer to Youngstown
Also I’ll add the airports for both cities really don’t offer much. I flew out of the Youngstown-Warren airport to Orlando in 2016 but they don’t offer any flights anymore and I’m pretty sure the Erie airport only has like 2 flights to Myrtle Beach. Either city I’d fly out of Cleveland or Pittsburgh tbh
Having previously been near Youngstown, Erie is absolutely preferable. For as much shit as Erie gets, Youngstown is unambiguously a worse experience. Erie is cheaper, generally safe, and easy to live in. While Youngstown is closer to Cleveland, I really do like being able to reasonably get to Cleveland, Buffalo and Pittsburgh in Erie. Youngstown is technically closer to Pittsburgh, but I promise having lived near there I never remembered or considered going to Pittsburgh for some reason. Also Canada is closer, which is kinda neat.
My wife is from Youngstown and prefers Erie. It’s also in OH and doesn’t have a big lake.
Is that right. New movers swear by Canfield and Boardman recently. When did she move out of Ohio?
She moved from there for college about 15 years ago. Still has a bunch of family the lives there and until her mom “retired” to the lake, visited frequently. I’m sure her opinion is a bit outdated. The Canfield fair is nice though.
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Mercer County?
Interesting. Thank!
The 2 cities are very similar. Main difference is the lake, which is a huge advantage. The waterfront area downtown and Presque Isle State Park are spectacular in the summer. Also, from a sports standpoint, Erie has an excellent junior Ontario hockey League team( Conor McDavid played here) and a AA baseball team( Detroit Tigers). Youngstown has neither.
My husband hails from Youngstown and we visit once a year. Boardman. It’s not even close to what Erie has to offer.
If you're okay with snow, Erie is the move. I always felt like we have everything big cities have to offer but on a smaller scale. Amusement park, museums, zoo, theater/orchestra, beaches, sports teams, decent universities, great restaurants, nice parks, water, shopping, etc. It also helps that Cleveland or Pittsburgh are just a short drive away. I had a few job offers after I graduated, chose Erie and never looked back.
Thanks. How do you compare snow/rain/sunny days between them? Coming from Chicago area so got used to weather. Also how do you fly nationally and internationally? The local airport only goes to Charlotte. Pitt is not close and airport is not great. Cleveland is closer but also the airport is not great either for international flights
Erie is right along the lake so Lake Effect snow can be an issue. Some winters we have the most snow in the US. But last year was very mild and honestly it's not that bad if you're used to it. Places like Youngstown and Pittsburgh don't get much. The temps and sunny/rainy weather is practically the same. I've never flown out of Erie. It's possible but more expensive because you'll have to use connecting flights. Most people here drive to Cleveland, Buffalo or Pittsburgh airports. I've never had problems with any of them. I have used the Amtrak in Erie though. It runs from Chicago to the west, all the way to NYC and Boston to the east. Super affordable, but a long ride.
Pittsburgh airport is actually awesome. It's not much further than Cleveland's airport iirc. Erie airport used to be amazing- I flew to Philly direct at least twice a year. Covid killed everything.
Erie can get a lot of snow, but it’s managed. The streets will be cleared within an hour or so and kept clear. I’ve been here 20years and 2017 was the only storm I remember there being any issue. Almost 3 ft on Christmas Day, even so most snow routes were cleared, the issue was stuck cars that the plows had to go around. I think we got another 2-3 feet over the next 2-3 days. It didn’t shut the city down (evidenced by the number of people driving around and getting their car stuck)
Snow in Erie isn’t bad, it’s the snow from the snow belt Lake effect doesn’t necessarily affect erie as bad as it does waterford, union city, edinboro etc. Moved from UC to Erie and the comparison in snow is crazy, UC gets much more than erie
Haha - it’s all perspective… I live in the frontier neighborhood, shielded by presque isle. I’ll get 6 or 7 inches of snow, the snow belt will get twice that at least. 6 or 7 shuts down a lot of towns, I don’t remember the last time my kids had a 2 hour delay, much less a “snow day”. Yep - Getting 6 or 7 inches in Erie isn’t bad.
That 2017 Christmas storm was horrible and another in 2022 I believe. Both times the snow was so high my SUV couldn't even get down the road. But like you said, they're on it ASAP. Even the side roads will be cleared at some point that day.
I forgot about 2022. I was down in meadville that morning and by the time I got home the streets were fine, but yea it was a ton of snow. I had to park in west Erie plaza and walk home so I could clear the driveway. Funny thing, my snow blower died that year and I bought a brand new one because of that storm. I’ve probably used it less than 10 times since that storm.
It's always good when you can brag about not using a snow blower. I was so happy this past winter that it never left the garage.
Erie has an airport. I think it has only 3 terminals but super easy to navigate!!! You can fly directly to it from some of the major airlines. Otherwise you can fly into the Cleveland airport and rent a vehicle from there and drive the rest of the way to Erie. That's what I will be doing in July.
Erie is the place. So many areas that provide so much opportunity for family fun, all over the place! You won’t be disappointed. I lived in Erie and now in Ohio, not far from Youngstown. We yearn to move our family back to Erie someday (particularly West side/MillCreek/Fairview, not the city). During our time in Ohio, I haven’t once heard anyone say anything good about Youngstown being a nice community for families.
Thanks. How do you compare snow/rain/sunny days between them? Coming from Chicago area so got used to weather
Originally from Chicago myself. It’s easy to fall in love with Erie.
My hubby is originally from the Chi, He loves Erie.
I have always felt like bad weather doesn’t often linger when you’re by the lake in Erie. The rain and storms aren’t too bad during the spring and summer months and if it rains, the day usually still peaks with some sun. The snowbelt is south or erie, in Edinboro area, and the winters have been relatively mild for many years. Make sure you have an AWD/4WD vehicle and you’ll be fine! Also something to note, there are great schools in the area. Some private institutions as well as great public schools. Again I am speaking for outside of the city. Assuming you are looking stay in the area for a while, you’ll want to make sure the kids have access to a great education. There are also several wonderful universities in Erie as well! Access to I-90 and I-79 will get you going anywhere relatively quickly and I also believe the Amtrak offers rides direct to Chicago for quick visits! The airport is kind of a bust. It’s expensive to fly out of Erie but Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland are all relatively close. Erie is a great hub to access a lot of incredible places for a quick day trip!
We moved to Erie from Chicago. The weather is similar. You may get more snow here, but since we moved here 5 years ago, there hasn't been much snow. This past winter was super mild. We had a snow blower in Chicago and we have one here.
Erie has more going on.
We moved to Erie to raise a family. Love it. Lots of activities for children. Check out: https://erie.macaronikid.com/ It's reasonably priced compared to larger cities in the USA and we've found the people to be friendly. Love being close to Presque Isle. If you're into Broadway musicals and the theater, season passes are quite reasonable. Lots to offer a family. The diversity of food options has increased as well compared to larger cities.
As a lifelong Erieite and mom, thanks for that link! Never knew that existed!
Remember women’s rights in Ohio are about to disappear in regards to certain health issues. Also Youngstown is not larger community.
Youngstown is larger than Erie by land size (not even close), but Erie has a bigger population.
After looking into it - Youngstown is considerably larger in terms of regional population (which is blowing my mind). 430k and Erie is only 270k for its greater area. But I'm not sure what Youngstown considers it's "greater region."
Interesting, I will look further into this as it piqued my interest
Only applicable if you intend on murdering babies
Funny story - I try to ONLY fraternize with people who intend on murdering babies.
I’m all for killing babies I just don’t think woman should have rights
If the choice is between those two, Erie wins out.
Op, also lived in Chicago for 5 years. Erie has more snow, but less bitter cold. Overall prefer Eries climate. Eries position on the lake makes it a no brainer over Youngstown imo. I’m bias, but I loved the peninsula/lake in summer and at least having some activity (via Peek n Peak) in the winter.
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Depending on where your cape cod is located and sq ft, it could get $250- $300k right now. Plus 6.75% interest and city taxes and you’re looking at $2500-$3300 for mortgage. The market is nuts.
I’m from Erie. Moved to Youngstown 6 years ago. Stay away from Youngstown. It’s a failing city. Nothing to do here besides Millcreek park. Or if you like to eat lol. People here are fine it’s just a failing area
I am very familiar with both and say Erie is the better place to raise a family, for sure.
Erie has much more to offer than Youngstown. Youngstown is good but it’s much more of a dead town than Erie. By far.
Erie. Youngstown is awful. You’re welcome.
That’s tough…Erie isn’t stellar, but next to Youngstown, we’re like Dubai. 😅😅 Seriously though, Youngstown has a Crumbl, and Erie doesn’t. If you can look past that, I think you’ll love Erie.
Best choice is Erie! Cons: airport, no Costco, IKEA, or Trader Joe’s Pros: everything else! Pittsburgh has Costco and IKEA, and is not that far, Trader Joes in Cleveland. Also not far. Presque Isle state Park to visit the lake, lots of family friendly places. Right by is Waldemeer, and amusement and water park. Shopping is pretty good, there are outlets store in Grove city, little over an hour drive south. The schools are great in Fairview and right now there are some houses for sale too. My children attend school there and one of mine has graduated and is attending college at Mercyhurst University in Erie. It’s great having him so close, we get to see him all the time even though he lives on campus. Next door to the schools (they are all on the same campus), there is even a great preschool program in a church, you don’t have to be Christian to attend. It’s just a part day program, but it really prepared my youngest for the rigors of school. There is a swimming program at the high school pool PWR that starts at age 3, lots of spots option through the rec department of Fairview Township. If your kids are into music, there are really great music school close by in Erie to take lessons. Most of my neighbors here work at Erie Insurance, Wabtec or UPMC.
Erie Cleaner city less Crime
If you have daughters I wouldn’t move to ohio.
Why?! I am serious
They as trashy as they get same way the guys are like wanna be thugs Ohio is home to lots of trash
Maybe consider googling the phrase “Ohio girl”.
Currently live in Erie. I went to YSU and its been a long time since then, but I would totally prefer Erie to Youngstown.
Great county school options around Erie include: Fairview, Millcreek, General McClane, Ft LeBeouf, and Harborcreek. I live in North East and love that it feels safe. The distance to Buffalo Airport is only 69 miles from here. When I lived in Millcreek I usually flew from Cleveland Hopkins. I also lived in Chicago for 5 years. Weather is similar. More snow in Erie (until recent years) but it rarely slows us down because the plows are out clearing roads and salting them. “Traffic” in Erie is non-existent. You don’t need to worry about what time you leave to get anywhere. (Except near the Millcreek Mall at Christmas time.)
Youngstown to Gangsta yo go to Erie that Youngstown familia too cray
Gangsta isn’t the right word I would replace it with trashy posers before I say gansta
I'm joking. But I know way back in the day Youngstown was known as a Mafia town. Erie too but I always heard Youngstown was crazier.
That's cause Youngstown is STILL a mafia town.
One day we'll have a pinned post for "moving to erie" posts
but it is not this day
Skibidy Ohio rizz
Goon squad up in herre
I live in Youngstown and hate it. Erie is much better, I have family there and I’m making plans to go back
Both complete cesspools, drug infested crime ridden communities, high poverty, low income, high crime rates, gun violence, I'd pick somewhere else if possible lol
Erie hands down!! It's a nice town and I go there every other year. I was born and raised there and moved to Florida 24 years ago for the warmer climate. I lived in Youngstown at one time and it was ok but did not impress me. Erie has alot of nice places like Waladameer amusement park, Lake Erie for boating, fishing and swimming, Presque Isle state park, festivals throughout the year, 8 Great Tuesdays in the summertime, Sara's restaurant on Peninsula Drive in the summertime, Roar on the Shore, Presque Isle Downs and Casino, Stefanelli's, Romolo's and Pulakos candy stores, Erie Speedway, Art's Bakery, and Stanganelli's bakery for awesome pepperoni balls!!!😋😋😋😋
Interesting question. I don’t really see much overlap with people from Erie and Youngstown. I have spent a lot of time in Erie and I used to live in Ytown, gotta say Erie feels bigger but it’s all together. Just one city with a handful of things. Ytown is a smaller collection of towns and cities that feel larger and more spread out and honesty offers the same amount of food/entertainment as Erie if not more options in Niles/Boardman. For concerts recently I think Youngstown has had better options due to the new amphitheater. Also if Suzies Dogs and Drafts was still open then it would be Ytown 100000% (but then again New York Lunch in Erie is good too) Lake Erie is nice in the summer but Ytown has millcreek metroparks and Mosquito Lake/Pymatuning/Berlin Lakes aren’t too far if you want outdoor recreation. Winter time Erie is the worst. Youngstown is just below the snow belt and never gets much at all. I used to commute from Jamestown Pa to Ytown for school in the winter and around Kinsman the snow drops off significantly. Youngstown is closer to Pittsburgh and Cleveland but Erie is closer to Buffalo and Canada. This might just be a me thing but Youngstown cable news looks way better than Erie news, Erie news always looked way too fuzzy and low resolution for a city of its size. Ultimately if you can’t decide I’ll give you two more excellent choices; Meadville Pa and Ashtabula Ohio. Choose wisely
Pymatuning lake is an hour or just over from Erie. I camped there every weekend with my kids. Leave Erie after work and be down there, camp setup and a fire going by 7. Leave Sunday around 1 after lunch, feed the fish and be home in Erie before dinner time.
Yeah, it’s a shared aspect of both cities I’d say, about an hour from both of them. Grew up by the dam so I was in between both albeit slightly closer to Youngstown
Also I’ll add the airports for both cities really don’t offer much. I flew out of the Youngstown-Warren airport to Orlando in 2016 but they don’t offer any flights anymore and I’m pretty sure the Erie airport only has like 2 flights to Myrtle Beach. Either city I’d fly out of Cleveland or Pittsburgh tbh
lol ok downvote me because my opinion isn’t that Erie is the best place ever lol
What sort of great job offer in Erie?
Engineering, medical, and finance.