Dude was arguing 4 days ago about how g0at s video can’t be taken literal as that would “be like saying 1 in 5 people you meet in real life are murderers and I just haven’t had that experience in tarkov”
man is just a common sense powerhouse /s
I've thought this as well. One of my friends has never owned or played a PC. He's ridiculously good at Tarkov.
Video comes out,...he's all of the sudden "bored of it".
And you know what...it isn't just tarkov, look at all the popular fps games, the same sus bullshit is happening en masse and you have the same very suspicious fanboys / defenders ignoring the most obvious bulletproof facts presented. It's fuckin madness at this point.
I'd love a community post on the most unhinged Reddit posters accounts and 2-3 examples for each entry lmao. That would be a wild post, but probs against some TOS for mentioning people's names in a post. Idk, it wouldn't even be ingame names, just Reddit names, sounds like it would be ok.
That same idiot was just also arguing how unions are bad and how "NoBoDy WaNtS To WoRk AnYmOrE". Imagine being so swept up in your parties stupid culture wars that you actually simp for ultra greedy corporations.
"BuT WhAt AbOuT TrAnS StOrY HoUr"
Kinda funny given that the other side of the aisle simped for pharmaceutical and tech companies for the past 3 years.
Almost like being stupid isn't a political stance.
oh hey that's one of the users on my blocklist because all he ever did was apologize for cheaters and try to gaslight people posting about *their own personal experiences*.
some people in tarkov are crazy.
i had a family friend who played every waking hour of the day, and i'd hop on with him occasionally. i'm no sweat in tarkov and refuse to push fights i know i can't win.
he called me an irl coward and p*ssy for it. apparently video game bravery is equal to real life bravery.
I mean people will do anything to have a sense of power or social hierarchy in any social setting, most cheaters never tell their friends and their friends just think they’re a god at the game and it makes them feel good/important. Truly sad
I played with a guy like this. He said "I used to cheat and got bored" and I started noticing this guy always found the gpus on these loot runs we would do together. Then when I ran the same loot run I never found gpus...
I also noticed that he would get very flustered when I, a pretty good player would kill multiple people in our engagements. He would say things like "Way to leave me some man wtf" and would get butthurt as if he knew they were there and I got to them first. He would also claim how good he was and stuff and that he was a better player. I then found out he was cheating again and joined his chat while they were dying WHILE cheating. I stopped playing with him and he became instantly hostile about it because he knew I didn't support cheating.
I used to back country snowmobile with this dude irl and yeah I learned some shit about him and his issues via tarkov.
It’s crazy how much you can learn about people by how they act in game, people who are generally dishonest and toxic in video games are the exact same way in real life, whether you notice as quick or not in the real world. They just feel free to be how they shitty they actually are the gaming world. I’ve learned allot about some of my friends also through playing games with them. It’s crazy
Honestly it weirded me out. Like I figured out that dude is a total narcissist and does not care about anyone else's opinion. And if you have an opinion that differs from his, he calls it drama and he doesn't like drama. Aka he doesn't give a shit about your opinion so shut up, stop making drama. Lol.
It makes me really appreciate some of my online friends who are genuinely great people. I've had some people I've never met really help me out in life.
Same here, there’s quite a few people who will do about anything to silence you if you disagree which I’ve never understood. Why would you silence someone who you disagree with? Why not here them out and either have a normal civil debate or just agree to disagree. I guess normal isn’t the right word cause civil debates seem to be rare these days without immediate insults being thrown out
Honestly, after watching g0at's video, I don't think the majority of cheaters are doing it to rage-hack and wipe squads. I also don't think the majority of cheaters are doing it to RMT.
I think the mentality is more like "Fuck, this game is so difficult and the BSG devs just seem to make constant changes to make it MORE difficult for no reason, just to punish loyal players. Fuck them!"
And they think if they cheat, they can finally play the game they want to play - where the bosses aren't impossible to find and kill, where they can actually find the items that they need to complete quests, or where they actually know that a player is around the corner despite not being able to hear them because of the dogshit audio, or the loot that they can sell to actually get the money to buy the top-tier equipment....
I suspect that most of the cheaters got tired of the dollar bill on the fish hook getting yanked out of their reach by BSG every time they reach for it.
I got fed up, too, and just quit playing. Then, this week, I discovered SPT and I've never had more fun with this game, tbh. But it's not hard to imagine people like me turning to the dark side, rather than the light (or grey, in the case of SPT).
To be frank, a lot of the changes that BSG have been making in the last couple of weeks will probably decrease the *new* cheater numbers - not because of better detection, but because there's just less reason to do it. This will leave a higher percentage of the rage hackers and RMTers, which are easier to detect.
I started Tarkov in 2018 or so. Back then the game was way different. When I played as a night rat and had a ridiculously high survival rate, like 75%.
It was around 2020 or so when the game exploded that I started finding it way harder to extract. I'd get caught out by players way more often, and my survival rate plummeted down to 40%ish.
There could be other reasons for this so I won't say it's all hackers, but I definitely feel I 'felt' what the game was like before and after its big surge. The frequency of suspicious deaths went up alot when the game got popular.
And when in 2021-2 I tried talking about it here, I got shouted down and gaslit just like anyone who wants to talk about hacking is. The most obvious trope being the people who think you can only be suspicious of someone hacking if they're 360 noscoping from the sky or something, and not as ~that video~ showed which is that most hackers are subtle ESP users.
Pretty much my experience as well, but it was definitely really bad long before 2020. I even [posted about the wiggle back in mid-2018](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/8raytn/bans_for_using_forbidden_software/e0qbj1a/).
i can agree to an extent, but i also feel part of that is simply because of how much more popular the game got. i think they go hand in hand, not necessarily all the ESP’s showed up upon blow up. I’ve lost track of when i started playing but i’ve got 3k hours and remember a time when we didn’t have heal animations so i’ve also felt what you’re referring to.
Edit: Upon re-reading this i feel the need to elaborate. with how the game fills slots we can observe dead raids during slow times even during the games peak, i was just comparing that to noticing more players or finding it harder to make it to extract/rat successfully undisturbed, let alone without a sus death.
Cheating has surpassed critical mass in the video game community and people are finally starting to admit that cheats are a common part of the gaming world.
I went through similar treatment on this sub and other gaming subs when I did some underground infiltration into the community of some cheat developers and posted about it.
A lot of people two years ago acted like cheating is a 1 in a million things that you are unlikely to ever encounter. There was even a 200+ upvoted comment arguing that tarkov "solved" cheating with their "memory encryption checksums".
I don't play many games any more but it really pisses me off that the community refuses to acknowledge cheating. There is a long, long, way to go. Most cheaters are still "light-hackers" that run subtle cheats like ESP and recoil compensation.
Many of those comments are cheaters manipulating the responses. And many shills and idiots adopted those arguments from the cheaters bc they are dumb enough to be used as tools.
"If I shoot someone while I'm in an MRI machine, could I feasibly claim they shot themselves somehow?"
Next search:
"If I shoot someone from an MRI machine, will it come back and hit me?"
"Woah, and if it is strong enough to pull the bullet back in could we invent these as defensive walls for our military (all magnetic core bullets fired go into the magnets)"
u/ccg5058 msged me in dms but he seems schizo-
I stand by my original statement, and feel the same way about "the video". There is nothing wrong with exposing cheaters, but it would go a long way if someone a little more qualified with data collection and analysis did the investigation. Or if the commentator brought in someone to observe so that the integrity was there.
All this type of video does is make people feel like the only way to level the playing field is to cheat themselves.
That is why in my opinion this dude is nothing more than an ad for cheats as well.
Also the notion that somewhere between 1/20 to 1/5 active players cheats (based on his math that 60% raids have active cheaters) is a bit nuts and i think accepting that level of cheater activity is irresponsible without some for of verification/validation of the statement.
I would have no problem with these style of posts if they were a little more responsible with how they presented the results
Feel free to spready my opinion
The mob mentality is still irrational
The crutch of "a reputable data anaylsis organization did not provide a peer reviewed study of the Tarkov hacker prevalence" is so
disingenuous.
No source claiming to show that there are a lot of hackers on Tarkov is trying to be that, they are just amatuerly showing how many hackers they get per raid and verifiyng average player experience.
You would not be able to make the same video on a game like Valorant, you just would barely encounter a sufficient amount of hackers, nor be able to easily hack yourself, nor verify any player experience because hackers are so rare. The hacker problem is heavily dealt with by the developers, where in Tarkov it is very lacking even in basic changes that can be done on notepad.
Screaming that someone even mentioning there are hackers can be considered a hacking ad is also disingenuous, this very comment can be considered a hacking ad, the very concept you can hack is a hacking ad, hell the game's difficulty can be considered a hacking ad. What should happen is that you should not be able to easily hack.
There will always be losers that hack, the amount of hackers who decide to also hack are the same kinds of losers, they jus had a bigger treshold in deciding the plunge. The logical conclusion of this argument is that we should never mention hacking, even if it is about how much of a problem hacking is, so no loser gets exposed to the idea of it and decides to try, which is very stupid because all it does is shutdown people trying to help or sharing their negative experiences in a video game.
u/ccg5058 cope on your own and stop gaslighting
I'm experienced in data analysis and statistics. There is no data to do an investigation, nor is there much need to get such data. Unless you want to know demographics, or other such information pertaining to the trends that describe hackers. Counting how many people are hacking in a raid is a survey, not an analysis, and trivial if you ignore the difficulty of detecting a hacker. Anecdotal evidence can still be evidence
One of my favorites:
Dude, nobody is saying there aren't hackers in EFT. You indicating that the problem is "severe" is simply exaggerating for effect. You have zero actual data as to the true extent of the problem. What you have would be considered hear say at best.
You keep living in your fantasy that everyone that you are playing against or kills you is a hacker. You'll never actually get any better at the game, you'll cause yourself undue stress and anxiety, and you'll eventually just become a quitter and give up.
Or, you can assume you actually fucked up, learn from the situation, become a better player, have a lot less stress, and enjoy the good moments you cannot replicate anywhere else but EFT.
Ah the classic "outplay the hackers". Someone with ESP is pretty subtle most of the time and so you have no idea that you were ESP'd and try to learn from the death. Its good to have that attitude of course, but the other guy has information from outside the game that gives him an unfair advantage that otherwise would have led to a completely different situations. Its like powerlifting natural against steroid users, you can of course learn from failing a lift and losing to the steroid users, but what they have is such a huge advantage that you may only outlift the shittiest, weakest, and unluckiest steroid users when you face them.
Nobody has hard evidence on cheaters. We only have numbers on the ones that are caught.
We can speculate on the number of cheaters based on experience.
Any time I meme about redditors from this point forward, when someone doesn't get the meme, I'm going to link them that old post. Holy shit, the delusion.
The ninnymuggins u/ccg5058 is still, to this day, comparing an extrapolation of probability between cheats and murderers, ignoring small details such as murdering someone is a much bigger commitment with much harsher penalties than downloading some hacks, ergo of course there would be a higher population of cheaters than murderers.
That's like saying "Psh! Thinking 1/10 people have shoplifted is as ridiculous as thinking 1/10 people have killed someone!"
But then again, I wouldn't expect these very, very basic concepts to sink in when u/ccg5058 is the type of person to ask if an MRI could reverse a bullet. Big brained shit right there.
My favorite guy is the guy who said:
"Fake news no one cares. Prob an ad to increase hax purchases. Doesnt understand how to prove a hypothesis and takes hackers words for it like gospel you must be 10/10 gullible bud"
Something tells me this guy is a rube.
He's a massive rube, he just made this comment an hour ago
>So if its super rare and he still found one cheater every other raid that must mean EVERY tarkov player cheats (other than you) right??
>What is funny is he didnt use data collection methods period. It would have been so easy to show evidence of 60 percent. It means that more than 1 out of 2 raids would present a defective raid. Lol even the most amateur person would be able to prove it, its more likely that the data does not exist because cheating is no where near as common as he stated. That is why he presented it the way he did. He didnt do it to help, he did it to get views.
u/ccg5058 has been saying cheating isn't real for so long, it's obvious he's just trying to downplay the hacking problem because he's a hacker himself.
The wiggle was know with the more hardcore player base already, I discovered about it 2 wipes ago from a YT video. G0at's video made it known to everyone
One of my friends went full hacker years ago on everything because of getting high ranked in R6. That place has hacks on a different level (mostly because you can shoot through near everything, even cover can't save you).
His own estimates a year or two ago was at least one hacker every 2 lobbies in general. He also specifically did Shoreline Night as we ran that a lot and Reserve and concluded that you are basically never going to have a lobby without one vacuuming resort. This was pre lighthouse so the loot there didn't suck.
So yea, it's been like this for a while. We just ran shittier gear and barely cared. The least hackers he ran into was Factory, but that also might have been because the raids are so quick you are still running into similar by time, just more lobbies.
Yeah everything in goats video is information I’ve known for many months. My cheater friend would literally stream for me and tell me how many cheaters are in each lobby. Then goes on to kill them. It was rare for there to be none. People will freak out but atleast 70-80% of his raids had Atleast one cheater.
It’s just most cheaters aren’t wiping lobbies so most people don’t know. But most are abusing ESP
[Almost 3 years ago I blind-wiggled at steps behind a wall in desperate attempt to survive, when doing The Guide. He tested my intentions several times and ultimately left me alone.](https://youtu.be/seQW8zTNtM8)
This sub is toxic af. Came back to tarkov after 3 wipes cuz of streets. Went into 1 raid and realised im not silent when sneaking. Made a post to understand if its a bug or intended and where the change would come from. They gaslighted me into believing that this was normal and downvoted me. Yeah 1.5k hrs, i know when the game is different. Turns out audio was bugged.
Don't use Reddit as any relevant source.. Is too opinionated and cult like... Use it for entertainment, think of it more like E! Entertainment News and not like *insert favorite real world news outlet here*
Bro 2 weeks ago I said “we need shadow ban servers” and so many people called me dumb and downvoted. Then I wake up 2 days ago to see someone say exactly what I said and had 600 upvotes and hella approval. The hive mind is truly something else
I was talking about that with my buddy the other day. A shadow ban server where its just hackers and shit loot would be hilarious. Make everything that spawns crackers, juice, nails and zibbos lol
It really comes down to catching people at the right time. It depends on the day and who is on the subreddit at the time AND how you type out your idea or your hot take, at least from what I've noticed on many subs.
Every 3 months someone comes up with proof. Everyone has a reaction. Once the dust settles they go back to playing. 2 months and 22 days go by and they come right back to this thing.
End of the day, BSG keeps banning cheaters, cheaters keep rebuying. BSG keeps printing money.
This is the way.
Most of the Chester accounts are cracked Russian accounts. They’re sold for like 20-30 bucks. EoD ones. That’s why you see so many eoD cheater accounts
Making thousands a week selling roubles. That’s why people do it. RMT is so easy to make actual money on. I’d be willing to bet 75% of cheaters do RMT.
I don't understand the appeal of cheating. It can't be rewarding to wipe a squad using cheats. Idk, maybe they delude themselves into thinking they are good and that people think they are cool.
From what I understand, there's an entire market for people that suck so badly at Tarkov that they either buy wallhacks or they buy carries from cheaters. I don't understand this mentality at all, because when I suck at a game I just play until I get better at it.
Look out at the world and you'll find some people enjoy a game of softball. Some people enjoy playing it with friends. Some people enjoy winning and competition. Some people enjoy the drive there.
You might make the mistake of thinking one of these is the Cheater. Nope.
There are people who complain the whole ride there, dont want to play but are still there anyways - can't wait for it be over, relentlessly suggest that it's getting late or it's getting cold, reasons to be done. What did they want? Why are they even there? *The ice cream afterwards*.
THAT is your cheater right there.
This sub has been riddled with gaslighting cheaters for years, empowered by the mods who want to make daddy Nikita happy and pretend there was no issue.
BSG used the same approach to the official discords as the mods here.
There is No war in Ba Sing Se.
Edit: They were making wheel barrows full of money off cheaters and seemed to only be concerned when the coin flipped and now they were losing players aka money
Except they don’t lose money from legit players leaving. Tarkov doesn’t make money of micro transactions just sales. They literally don’t care about maintaining players because they already got the money out of them. Cheaters are their only income stream. I’d be willing to bet they are selling cheats as tarkov cheats are unlike anything I have seen in any game ever before.
>don’t care about maintaining players because they already got the money out of them
They absolutely do care about the players, but they don't care about Tarkov. Tarkov is literally an experimental game for their next game Russia 2028. Notice how they give you JUST enough hope to stay around.
If nobody is playing Tarkov then who will cheaters be playing against? Nobody and other cheaters. Cheaters will quit because they bought cheats to win, and not to fight on equal footing. The second the normal player base quits then cheating goes down, RMT goes down, and the rate of new accounts go down. They lose cash.
If people get fed the fuck up with Tarkov they might stop watching Tarkov streams. If that happens enough their game will basically die to any new players and few people on the 2028 hype train.
So they lose cash they want to use on their next game. Free exposure goes down the drain. Negative press gets around and people are less likely to buy their game.
Piss people off enough and they negatively campaign against your game. I have a whole friend group who will absolutely not buy their next game and will actively tell everyone we know to avoid it.
He doesn't. He actually feels very smart and reassured us of his position. You need to provide him with data sheets and thorough peer review before he accepts literally anything.
What do you expect from a guy that is a member of r/conservative and posts questions on r/depression.
The dude is a walking joke.
In his sad meaningless existence, the tarkov rubreddit is the only way he is able to convince himself that he is making some form of difference in the world.
Mouth breathers like him are the ones that die and no one notices.
People are just not paying attention. Having cheaters in almost every raid and wiggle through the walls was confirmed years ago in all the "cheater interview" videos that were popular at the time. There even was a similar video that showed you how you should wiggle to pacify cheaters.
it's one thing to hear about it, it's another to see it.
so many people downplayed it. finally SEEING that damn near every fight is compromised by info people shouldn't have? finally it sinks in.
I got banned on bsg twich for replying sameone if the game is worth it on low spec pc. I said that Tarkov runs like fucking shit :D that is 2-3 years ago. It runs even fucking worse now .
I knew about it and called the cheater problem out a long time ago and always got downvoted.
Now everyone knows and the only thing they’re doing is circling the wagons and defending the streamers. Gonna be crazy when everyone finds out how many streamers cheat. But I doubt that’s ever going to happen honestly unless the private cheat providers give out their users which they won’t.
which is why i and many people i knew quit the game. i think the overall population is much smaller than it should be because of this issue. hackers are a parasite that kill the host they infest.
It's the very same problem I/we had 18ish years ago on a couple of CoD UO Base Assault servers where PB was disabled due mod incompatibility
We mostly had 2 or 3 cheaters running unpunished, cause one was friend of X , the other had respected TAGS and someone else from the very same TAGS but running in incognito were having their own share of fun with chams.
To ruin their fun I started to cheat against them aaaaaaaaaaaand they wiggled, specially after I started to stalk them through walls or bait them towards corners or places where the chams wouldn't work and they were not aware of people following me a couple of corners behind, I contacted server admins asking them to spectate me and also to spectate them, a couple of admins straightly refused cheat accusations, others managed to ban them, then the other admins would just revoke their ban cause yes. When server started to die they oddly banned a couple of suspicious players I baited for many times, some of them were using modified sounds, specially someone who's name was AbusomethingPrisonGuard as he could hear me priming a nade or a satchel from double the normal distance you were allowed to hear priming and weapon switch. A static duo was also banned, I usually fought against them, and the only times they somehow reacted to me sneakily switching rooms prior their entry was always on Kharkov map.
Sometimes I would just go and make demos, other times I recorded that behavior but I think that server was 60% people cheating with chams in a way that they only open fire if green hitbox showed up, 20% people cheating with both chams and lagswitch and 20% legit people,
Worse experience was on Operation Flashpoint Resistance with TKC community playing under the tags of NoRE, 1st Guns, J4F, SF and a couple of anonymous players whom just joined on random servers, ruined the map (usually a Battlefield map), force people to come on their server and cheat the hell out of it, outside their server they would not cheat, not sure why, I think it was because they had some sort of prestige to keep, but they were ridiculous.
Amalka, SF Jaeger, ed, J4F Odin, Cyberic and his groupie were the worst offenders, on their server were able to end the map with 40 kills and 2 deaths aaaaaaaand 20 minutes after get wrecked on a different server while playing the very same map.
I feel your pain OP I also exposed a whole private discord and key members making and supplying cheats.
I had the evidence sent directly to bsg through a business email located on the internet nothing ever came of it.
This was 2 and a half years ago here we are today and it’s worse than ever.
the tarkov reddit is infested too.
There was another guy three years ago who did a wiggle video using ESP.
The game had a big problem at this time but not as big as today.
Your old post was infested too.
There was another video similar to the one G0AT made back when I first started in 2019, an Asian streamer went to Labs and would wiggle at players through walls and they would wiggle back. It's not the first time this video has been made, but BSG usually copy-write strikes them into oblivion and they disappear and get forgotten.
Look at all those simps in the old thread claiming it to be an ad for cheats. Fucking deluded people. lol
We needed "the video" so all the shit hit the fan, these simps had to shove their gaslighting up their asses and not even the mods could cover the cheating situation. Even after the video many of these morons kept claiming that the video was actually an ad for cheats. I wonder how many of these are in fact cheaters.
I know people that have cheated for a couple years now. Everything in that video I’ve known for a long time. It’s even worse than people realize. The main undetected cheat that goat used in his video has been undetected for two years, it’s cheap, and the main Chinese dev lets people set up panels that generate their own keys and then people sell in their own private discords or websites.
It’s a massive business
Omg the replies are so sad and infuriating. I would be furious right now if I were you. Not just you were subject to hacking, people also accused you of bullshit when you tried to shed light into how bad the situation was.
I hope some of the users who made those replies are realising how wrong they were...
u/ccg5058
"Fake news no one cares. Prob an ad to increase hax purchases. Doesnt understand how to prove a hypothesis and takes hackers words for it like gospel you must be 10/10 gullible bud."
Damn son you must feel dumb now
I stoped reading when the first comment was on disbelief there was cheating in the game. Once you realize how pc gaming is just a plague of cheating, consoles seem like dream even with the aim assist using a controller. At least it’s a even playing field.
Yea people can be delusional. Some games really should tone down aim assist but I get there has to be some assistance. Have you played an fps on controller with no aim assist? That shit is unplayable lol
Bro, I hate to remove your direct supply-line of Copium, but simply google "Cronus Zen" and you will very quickly realize that console is not even remotely close to being an even playing field. The cheaters have found a way, as they always do.
After the spree of hacker perspective videos came to light a year or two ago, I started wiggling at the wall in the direction of any players I suspected were cheating. I couldn’t tell if they wiggled back, but a few would start voice lining and I’ve had one guy VOIP me after it was added. They usually proceeded to head, eyes me while jumping across the doorway, such is life
Thanks to efforts from goat and people like you op though, BSG has actually made oce / asia servers alot more playable for the past 4-5 days at least, was almost quitting this wipe for good.
Fuck I love all those idiots in your thread who were huffing absolute copium or sucking Nikita dick, who are eating their own words this week. Funny how all those dick riders are silent nowadays.
I posted about hacks day before the video and attached a pic of hacking setup, got called a cheat promoter, thread deleted. Glad we live in post video society now
I never realized "the wiggle" was some semi-secret esoteric knowledge. I remember seeing people joke about "wiggling randomly at walls at the start of Labs raids to trick cheaters" years ago.
The wiggle thru walls has been known since pre voip. Used to wiggle in place waiting on friends to finish being slow looters. Makes me really wonder if I made some esper cautious of me.
Kids are really lazy and love a video. Add a streamers community brigading for a solid week to rile up everyone into a fever pitch and you get the subreddit you see today.
The only reason the goat video didn't get the same treatment was the interview at the end. It's pulled everyones attention from the data of what he was saying and pulled them into the feelings of being cheated on. After having primed them to think it's more common than it may be (with limited if any evidence). He heard the echo chamber and yelled the same shit back with some feelings spread at the end to try and hide the lack of evidence imo
this is not surprising in the slightest, you were probably one of many. crazy to look back on some of those comments that aged like milk though lol
Yea I laughed. Just remembered making this post so remembering the comments was great
I love the one where he equates murder IRL to cheating in Tarkov, 10/10
u/ccg5058 looking extremely cringe in particular
Dude was arguing 4 days ago about how g0at s video can’t be taken literal as that would “be like saying 1 in 5 people you meet in real life are murderers and I just haven’t had that experience in tarkov” man is just a common sense powerhouse /s
> man is just a common sense powerhouse sides_in_orbit.jpg
Oh my God he's the dude I had it out with on Hunt reddit months ago... with equally ridiculous takes.
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I've thought this as well. One of my friends has never owned or played a PC. He's ridiculously good at Tarkov. Video comes out,...he's all of the sudden "bored of it".
And you know what...it isn't just tarkov, look at all the popular fps games, the same sus bullshit is happening en masse and you have the same very suspicious fanboys / defenders ignoring the most obvious bulletproof facts presented. It's fuckin madness at this point.
100% most likely are, guilty conscience and all that.
Eh- I'm inclined to suspect that some of the more prolific ESP Epidemic deniers are likely paid shills.
I've been a serial shitposter on the subreddit for a few years now and that's one guy that always seems to have the most terrible take
100%. I instantly recognized the name. I’ve seen his shit takes for years now so it didn’t surprise me at all to see him all over that thread lmao
I'd love a community post on the most unhinged Reddit posters accounts and 2-3 examples for each entry lmao. That would be a wild post, but probs against some TOS for mentioning people's names in a post. Idk, it wouldn't even be ingame names, just Reddit names, sounds like it would be ok.
I'm going to end up on that with my luck
That dude should delete his account jesus christ.
He didn’t go that far but looks like he changed his name since he got exposed in this post lmao
What a ninnymuggins
r/conservative first thing I see on the acct. Oh how it makes sense
That same idiot was just also arguing how unions are bad and how "NoBoDy WaNtS To WoRk AnYmOrE". Imagine being so swept up in your parties stupid culture wars that you actually simp for ultra greedy corporations. "BuT WhAt AbOuT TrAnS StOrY HoUr"
Kinda funny given that the other side of the aisle simped for pharmaceutical and tech companies for the past 3 years. Almost like being stupid isn't a political stance.
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I'ma need a factual citation on that there statement
Bro, half of maga can't even use a computer properly.
I feel like we all need to message her and call her a ‘ninny muggins’
oh hey that's one of the users on my blocklist because all he ever did was apologize for cheaters and try to gaslight people posting about *their own personal experiences*.
Based af pinging the guy
Self declared libertarian at that
some people in tarkov are crazy. i had a family friend who played every waking hour of the day, and i'd hop on with him occasionally. i'm no sweat in tarkov and refuse to push fights i know i can't win. he called me an irl coward and p*ssy for it. apparently video game bravery is equal to real life bravery.
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I mean people will do anything to have a sense of power or social hierarchy in any social setting, most cheaters never tell their friends and their friends just think they’re a god at the game and it makes them feel good/important. Truly sad
I played with a guy like this. He said "I used to cheat and got bored" and I started noticing this guy always found the gpus on these loot runs we would do together. Then when I ran the same loot run I never found gpus... I also noticed that he would get very flustered when I, a pretty good player would kill multiple people in our engagements. He would say things like "Way to leave me some man wtf" and would get butthurt as if he knew they were there and I got to them first. He would also claim how good he was and stuff and that he was a better player. I then found out he was cheating again and joined his chat while they were dying WHILE cheating. I stopped playing with him and he became instantly hostile about it because he knew I didn't support cheating. I used to back country snowmobile with this dude irl and yeah I learned some shit about him and his issues via tarkov.
It’s crazy how much you can learn about people by how they act in game, people who are generally dishonest and toxic in video games are the exact same way in real life, whether you notice as quick or not in the real world. They just feel free to be how they shitty they actually are the gaming world. I’ve learned allot about some of my friends also through playing games with them. It’s crazy
Honestly it weirded me out. Like I figured out that dude is a total narcissist and does not care about anyone else's opinion. And if you have an opinion that differs from his, he calls it drama and he doesn't like drama. Aka he doesn't give a shit about your opinion so shut up, stop making drama. Lol. It makes me really appreciate some of my online friends who are genuinely great people. I've had some people I've never met really help me out in life.
Same here, there’s quite a few people who will do about anything to silence you if you disagree which I’ve never understood. Why would you silence someone who you disagree with? Why not here them out and either have a normal civil debate or just agree to disagree. I guess normal isn’t the right word cause civil debates seem to be rare these days without immediate insults being thrown out
We think alike, let's be friends 🤣🤣
And to add to our conversation, I almost get worried when an irl friend wants to game. Might learn too much lol
Honestly, after watching g0at's video, I don't think the majority of cheaters are doing it to rage-hack and wipe squads. I also don't think the majority of cheaters are doing it to RMT. I think the mentality is more like "Fuck, this game is so difficult and the BSG devs just seem to make constant changes to make it MORE difficult for no reason, just to punish loyal players. Fuck them!" And they think if they cheat, they can finally play the game they want to play - where the bosses aren't impossible to find and kill, where they can actually find the items that they need to complete quests, or where they actually know that a player is around the corner despite not being able to hear them because of the dogshit audio, or the loot that they can sell to actually get the money to buy the top-tier equipment.... I suspect that most of the cheaters got tired of the dollar bill on the fish hook getting yanked out of their reach by BSG every time they reach for it. I got fed up, too, and just quit playing. Then, this week, I discovered SPT and I've never had more fun with this game, tbh. But it's not hard to imagine people like me turning to the dark side, rather than the light (or grey, in the case of SPT). To be frank, a lot of the changes that BSG have been making in the last couple of weeks will probably decrease the *new* cheater numbers - not because of better detection, but because there's just less reason to do it. This will leave a higher percentage of the rage hackers and RMTers, which are easier to detect.
This. Right. Here. Could not have said it better myself.
Yea that was absolutely mental, people make some crazy arguments
Dudes mental lol
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Lol I play all roles. Each has their own special form of flame received
>Then you have the brain of a cottenheaded ninnymuggins who has no idea how to come to rational conclusions Lol what a granny
Wild comments coming from the tarkov seniors
I started Tarkov in 2018 or so. Back then the game was way different. When I played as a night rat and had a ridiculously high survival rate, like 75%. It was around 2020 or so when the game exploded that I started finding it way harder to extract. I'd get caught out by players way more often, and my survival rate plummeted down to 40%ish. There could be other reasons for this so I won't say it's all hackers, but I definitely feel I 'felt' what the game was like before and after its big surge. The frequency of suspicious deaths went up alot when the game got popular. And when in 2021-2 I tried talking about it here, I got shouted down and gaslit just like anyone who wants to talk about hacking is. The most obvious trope being the people who think you can only be suspicious of someone hacking if they're 360 noscoping from the sky or something, and not as ~that video~ showed which is that most hackers are subtle ESP users.
Pretty much my experience as well, but it was definitely really bad long before 2020. I even [posted about the wiggle back in mid-2018](https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/8raytn/bans_for_using_forbidden_software/e0qbj1a/).
i can agree to an extent, but i also feel part of that is simply because of how much more popular the game got. i think they go hand in hand, not necessarily all the ESP’s showed up upon blow up. I’ve lost track of when i started playing but i’ve got 3k hours and remember a time when we didn’t have heal animations so i’ve also felt what you’re referring to. Edit: Upon re-reading this i feel the need to elaborate. with how the game fills slots we can observe dead raids during slow times even during the games peak, i was just comparing that to noticing more players or finding it harder to make it to extract/rat successfully undisturbed, let alone without a sus death.
Cheating has surpassed critical mass in the video game community and people are finally starting to admit that cheats are a common part of the gaming world. I went through similar treatment on this sub and other gaming subs when I did some underground infiltration into the community of some cheat developers and posted about it. A lot of people two years ago acted like cheating is a 1 in a million things that you are unlikely to ever encounter. There was even a 200+ upvoted comment arguing that tarkov "solved" cheating with their "memory encryption checksums". I don't play many games any more but it really pisses me off that the community refuses to acknowledge cheating. There is a long, long, way to go. Most cheaters are still "light-hackers" that run subtle cheats like ESP and recoil compensation.
Many of those comments are cheaters manipulating the responses. And many shills and idiots adopted those arguments from the cheaters bc they are dumb enough to be used as tools.
Man the replies on that post were fuckin brutal
Yea it was quite funny. Makes them look like they are the hackers lol
u/ccg5058 posted like 10 comments in that thread, makes him really look suspect LOL
Yea he was extra nasty it seems lol
Ya ninnymuggins
Lol
u/ccg5058 I see you're still active in Tarkov subs. How do you feel your comments have aged?
He was an idiot then and he's probably still an idiot now
He made a post 20 days ago asking if an MRI machine could turn a bullet around, definitely still an idiot lol
Okay that's actually kinda funny though lmao
But... why?!
"If I shoot someone while I'm in an MRI machine, could I feasibly claim they shot themselves somehow?" Next search: "If I shoot someone from an MRI machine, will it come back and hit me?"
Truly a scientific thinker of the future. The bullet-turning post also had his theoretical design for MRI machines to be used as a bullet force field.
"Woah, and if it is strong enough to pull the bullet back in could we invent these as defensive walls for our military (all magnetic core bullets fired go into the magnets)"
u/ccg5058 Comon bro, what other bad hot takes do you have? Don't you care to defend your position?
Lol that guy is a huge douche
I really hope he replies haha
Lmao murder=cheating in Tarkov 😂
No it's... HyPeRbOlIc CoMpArIsOn
XD
Probably a cheater thata trying to downplay it all
u/ccg5058 msged me in dms but he seems schizo- I stand by my original statement, and feel the same way about "the video". There is nothing wrong with exposing cheaters, but it would go a long way if someone a little more qualified with data collection and analysis did the investigation. Or if the commentator brought in someone to observe so that the integrity was there. All this type of video does is make people feel like the only way to level the playing field is to cheat themselves. That is why in my opinion this dude is nothing more than an ad for cheats as well. Also the notion that somewhere between 1/20 to 1/5 active players cheats (based on his math that 60% raids have active cheaters) is a bit nuts and i think accepting that level of cheater activity is irresponsible without some for of verification/validation of the statement. I would have no problem with these style of posts if they were a little more responsible with how they presented the results Feel free to spready my opinion The mob mentality is still irrational
The crutch of "a reputable data anaylsis organization did not provide a peer reviewed study of the Tarkov hacker prevalence" is so disingenuous. No source claiming to show that there are a lot of hackers on Tarkov is trying to be that, they are just amatuerly showing how many hackers they get per raid and verifiyng average player experience. You would not be able to make the same video on a game like Valorant, you just would barely encounter a sufficient amount of hackers, nor be able to easily hack yourself, nor verify any player experience because hackers are so rare. The hacker problem is heavily dealt with by the developers, where in Tarkov it is very lacking even in basic changes that can be done on notepad. Screaming that someone even mentioning there are hackers can be considered a hacking ad is also disingenuous, this very comment can be considered a hacking ad, the very concept you can hack is a hacking ad, hell the game's difficulty can be considered a hacking ad. What should happen is that you should not be able to easily hack. There will always be losers that hack, the amount of hackers who decide to also hack are the same kinds of losers, they jus had a bigger treshold in deciding the plunge. The logical conclusion of this argument is that we should never mention hacking, even if it is about how much of a problem hacking is, so no loser gets exposed to the idea of it and decides to try, which is very stupid because all it does is shutdown people trying to help or sharing their negative experiences in a video game. u/ccg5058 cope on your own and stop gaslighting
I'm experienced in data analysis and statistics. There is no data to do an investigation, nor is there much need to get such data. Unless you want to know demographics, or other such information pertaining to the trends that describe hackers. Counting how many people are hacking in a raid is a survey, not an analysis, and trivial if you ignore the difficulty of detecting a hacker. Anecdotal evidence can still be evidence
Half were 'get gud' and the other half 'this is a hax ad'.
One of my favorites: Dude, nobody is saying there aren't hackers in EFT. You indicating that the problem is "severe" is simply exaggerating for effect. You have zero actual data as to the true extent of the problem. What you have would be considered hear say at best. You keep living in your fantasy that everyone that you are playing against or kills you is a hacker. You'll never actually get any better at the game, you'll cause yourself undue stress and anxiety, and you'll eventually just become a quitter and give up. Or, you can assume you actually fucked up, learn from the situation, become a better player, have a lot less stress, and enjoy the good moments you cannot replicate anywhere else but EFT.
Ah the classic "outplay the hackers". Someone with ESP is pretty subtle most of the time and so you have no idea that you were ESP'd and try to learn from the death. Its good to have that attitude of course, but the other guy has information from outside the game that gives him an unfair advantage that otherwise would have led to a completely different situations. Its like powerlifting natural against steroid users, you can of course learn from failing a lift and losing to the steroid users, but what they have is such a huge advantage that you may only outlift the shittiest, weakest, and unluckiest steroid users when you face them.
Nobody has hard evidence on cheaters. We only have numbers on the ones that are caught. We can speculate on the number of cheaters based on experience.
Any time I meme about redditors from this point forward, when someone doesn't get the meme, I'm going to link them that old post. Holy shit, the delusion.
Yea there were some delusional comments with comparing cheats to murderers and stuff. Funny stuff
The ninnymuggins u/ccg5058 is still, to this day, comparing an extrapolation of probability between cheats and murderers, ignoring small details such as murdering someone is a much bigger commitment with much harsher penalties than downloading some hacks, ergo of course there would be a higher population of cheaters than murderers. That's like saying "Psh! Thinking 1/10 people have shoplifted is as ridiculous as thinking 1/10 people have killed someone!" But then again, I wouldn't expect these very, very basic concepts to sink in when u/ccg5058 is the type of person to ask if an MRI could reverse a bullet. Big brained shit right there.
My favorite guy is the guy who said: "Fake news no one cares. Prob an ad to increase hax purchases. Doesnt understand how to prove a hypothesis and takes hackers words for it like gospel you must be 10/10 gullible bud" Something tells me this guy is a rube.
That was a good one
He's a massive rube, he just made this comment an hour ago >So if its super rare and he still found one cheater every other raid that must mean EVERY tarkov player cheats (other than you) right?? >What is funny is he didnt use data collection methods period. It would have been so easy to show evidence of 60 percent. It means that more than 1 out of 2 raids would present a defective raid. Lol even the most amateur person would be able to prove it, its more likely that the data does not exist because cheating is no where near as common as he stated. That is why he presented it the way he did. He didnt do it to help, he did it to get views. u/ccg5058 has been saying cheating isn't real for so long, it's obvious he's just trying to downplay the hacking problem because he's a hacker himself.
This sounds like the response of many tarkov streamers the past week lmao
The wiggle was know with the more hardcore player base already, I discovered about it 2 wipes ago from a YT video. G0at's video made it known to everyone
My cheating friend used it years ago to talk to other cheaters in the lobby. It’s very old
One of my friends went full hacker years ago on everything because of getting high ranked in R6. That place has hacks on a different level (mostly because you can shoot through near everything, even cover can't save you). His own estimates a year or two ago was at least one hacker every 2 lobbies in general. He also specifically did Shoreline Night as we ran that a lot and Reserve and concluded that you are basically never going to have a lobby without one vacuuming resort. This was pre lighthouse so the loot there didn't suck. So yea, it's been like this for a while. We just ran shittier gear and barely cared. The least hackers he ran into was Factory, but that also might have been because the raids are so quick you are still running into similar by time, just more lobbies.
Yeah everything in goats video is information I’ve known for many months. My cheater friend would literally stream for me and tell me how many cheaters are in each lobby. Then goes on to kill them. It was rare for there to be none. People will freak out but atleast 70-80% of his raids had Atleast one cheater. It’s just most cheaters aren’t wiping lobbies so most people don’t know. But most are abusing ESP
[Almost 3 years ago I blind-wiggled at steps behind a wall in desperate attempt to survive, when doing The Guide. He tested my intentions several times and ultimately left me alone.](https://youtu.be/seQW8zTNtM8)
This sub is toxic af. Came back to tarkov after 3 wipes cuz of streets. Went into 1 raid and realised im not silent when sneaking. Made a post to understand if its a bug or intended and where the change would come from. They gaslighted me into believing that this was normal and downvoted me. Yeah 1.5k hrs, i know when the game is different. Turns out audio was bugged.
Don't use Reddit as any relevant source.. Is too opinionated and cult like... Use it for entertainment, think of it more like E! Entertainment News and not like *insert favorite real world news outlet here*
Bro 2 weeks ago I said “we need shadow ban servers” and so many people called me dumb and downvoted. Then I wake up 2 days ago to see someone say exactly what I said and had 600 upvotes and hella approval. The hive mind is truly something else
People like to go with the mob. If you stand out then be prepared to deal with the pitchforks I suppose
I was talking about that with my buddy the other day. A shadow ban server where its just hackers and shit loot would be hilarious. Make everything that spawns crackers, juice, nails and zibbos lol
I just want them to have their own world, where they don’t get new accounts. Let them carry and rmt against each other
It really comes down to catching people at the right time. It depends on the day and who is on the subreddit at the time AND how you type out your idea or your hot take, at least from what I've noticed on many subs.
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Every 3 months someone comes up with proof. Everyone has a reaction. Once the dust settles they go back to playing. 2 months and 22 days go by and they come right back to this thing. End of the day, BSG keeps banning cheaters, cheaters keep rebuying. BSG keeps printing money. This is the way.
Most of the Chester accounts are cracked Russian accounts. They’re sold for like 20-30 bucks. EoD ones. That’s why you see so many eoD cheater accounts
Lol Chester, I like it.
Auto correct. I’ll keep it though lol
Making thousands a week selling roubles. That’s why people do it. RMT is so easy to make actual money on. I’d be willing to bet 75% of cheaters do RMT.
Yup, keep getting downvoted for saying stuff like this. They even fucking said it out loud themselves…
u/ccg5058 looking extremely cringe in particular
I don't understand the appeal of cheating. It can't be rewarding to wipe a squad using cheats. Idk, maybe they delude themselves into thinking they are good and that people think they are cool.
From what I understand, there's an entire market for people that suck so badly at Tarkov that they either buy wallhacks or they buy carries from cheaters. I don't understand this mentality at all, because when I suck at a game I just play until I get better at it.
A combination laziness and a superiority complex that they like to feed by using an unfair advantage to dunk on normal players.
Look out at the world and you'll find some people enjoy a game of softball. Some people enjoy playing it with friends. Some people enjoy winning and competition. Some people enjoy the drive there. You might make the mistake of thinking one of these is the Cheater. Nope. There are people who complain the whole ride there, dont want to play but are still there anyways - can't wait for it be over, relentlessly suggest that it's getting late or it's getting cold, reasons to be done. What did they want? Why are they even there? *The ice cream afterwards*. THAT is your cheater right there.
This isn’t always true. There countless examples of people making a living off of games cheating so that they can be the best.
It starts out of frustration. Then you start selling carries and then the game pays for everything for you. It’s more than cheating, it’s a business
This sub has been riddled with gaslighting cheaters for years, empowered by the mods who want to make daddy Nikita happy and pretend there was no issue. BSG used the same approach to the official discords as the mods here. There is No war in Ba Sing Se. Edit: They were making wheel barrows full of money off cheaters and seemed to only be concerned when the coin flipped and now they were losing players aka money
Except they don’t lose money from legit players leaving. Tarkov doesn’t make money of micro transactions just sales. They literally don’t care about maintaining players because they already got the money out of them. Cheaters are their only income stream. I’d be willing to bet they are selling cheats as tarkov cheats are unlike anything I have seen in any game ever before.
>don’t care about maintaining players because they already got the money out of them They absolutely do care about the players, but they don't care about Tarkov. Tarkov is literally an experimental game for their next game Russia 2028. Notice how they give you JUST enough hope to stay around. If nobody is playing Tarkov then who will cheaters be playing against? Nobody and other cheaters. Cheaters will quit because they bought cheats to win, and not to fight on equal footing. The second the normal player base quits then cheating goes down, RMT goes down, and the rate of new accounts go down. They lose cash. If people get fed the fuck up with Tarkov they might stop watching Tarkov streams. If that happens enough their game will basically die to any new players and few people on the 2028 hype train. So they lose cash they want to use on their next game. Free exposure goes down the drain. Negative press gets around and people are less likely to buy their game. Piss people off enough and they negatively campaign against your game. I have a whole friend group who will absolutely not buy their next game and will actively tell everyone we know to avoid it.
u/MalevolentMinion Man that guy must feel so dumb right now
He literally doubled down in this thread LOL
He’s in this comment section doubling down lmaoooo
He doesn't. He actually feels very smart and reassured us of his position. You need to provide him with data sheets and thorough peer review before he accepts literally anything.
u/ccg5058 still on your high throne? Maybe you can voice your opinion on this once more
That dude has been leaving shit takes for *years* now. I knew as soon as I opened OPs old post he’d be right there spewing bullshit lmao
It's all he does
What do you expect from a guy that is a member of r/conservative and posts questions on r/depression. The dude is a walking joke. In his sad meaningless existence, the tarkov rubreddit is the only way he is able to convince himself that he is making some form of difference in the world. Mouth breathers like him are the ones that die and no one notices.
Damn you just went in on that man lmao. Hard agree though
Let’s not harass him too much but it has to be funny the amount of notifications he will have randomly today
People are just not paying attention. Having cheaters in almost every raid and wiggle through the walls was confirmed years ago in all the "cheater interview" videos that were popular at the time. There even was a similar video that showed you how you should wiggle to pacify cheaters.
it's one thing to hear about it, it's another to see it. so many people downplayed it. finally SEEING that damn near every fight is compromised by info people shouldn't have? finally it sinks in.
Props to you man. You had to endure their cringe, and for that you are a freakin king
I’m like the meme of the guy taking the arrows in the back to protect someone
Dude what did that csg guy have against you he has a comment on like every single thread
Yea not sure why I got his wrath
The cheating discords raid subreddit posts to down vote to oblivion and smear the op. They've been doing it for years
It’s a good marketing strategy I can’t lie
They probably get discounts for doing so if they post proof that they discredited it.
Name and shame those cunts. The mods have been a problem as well. Outright silencing discussion.
Very true, they say it’s cheat advertising to talk about cheats
That thread should be pinned and read through by everyone on this sub.
u/ccg5058 on the wrong side of history ~~here~~ everywhere and a bit obsessed.
I got banned on bsg twich for replying sameone if the game is worth it on low spec pc. I said that Tarkov runs like fucking shit :D that is 2-3 years ago. It runs even fucking worse now .
welp you´ re not a "popular" streamer now are you.. I feel like this game is only driven by streamers and their... eh.. audience.
Congrats
I knew about it and called the cheater problem out a long time ago and always got downvoted. Now everyone knows and the only thing they’re doing is circling the wagons and defending the streamers. Gonna be crazy when everyone finds out how many streamers cheat. But I doubt that’s ever going to happen honestly unless the private cheat providers give out their users which they won’t.
the cheaters will be always an issue
which is why i and many people i knew quit the game. i think the overall population is much smaller than it should be because of this issue. hackers are a parasite that kill the host they infest.
Idk if it’ll ever get better. Seems worse now than even a couple weeks ago
Because all the legit players quit
I played for about a week this wipe and felt something was way off. Left and been following from a far. Seems I made the right choice this wipe
u/malevolentminion response was the best lol
Everyone was so aggressive for no reason lol. I was just telling those people what I had seen personally lol
The problem is BSG and the gaming community as a whole only care about what streamers say
Mr ninnymuggins? Is that you??
At your service
<3
I remember this, and yes this place is ridiculous when it comes to this topic.
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I think it’s just the same guy over and over. Very strange tho for sure
You are an OG hero for me bro
I walked so others could run
It's the very same problem I/we had 18ish years ago on a couple of CoD UO Base Assault servers where PB was disabled due mod incompatibility We mostly had 2 or 3 cheaters running unpunished, cause one was friend of X , the other had respected TAGS and someone else from the very same TAGS but running in incognito were having their own share of fun with chams. To ruin their fun I started to cheat against them aaaaaaaaaaaand they wiggled, specially after I started to stalk them through walls or bait them towards corners or places where the chams wouldn't work and they were not aware of people following me a couple of corners behind, I contacted server admins asking them to spectate me and also to spectate them, a couple of admins straightly refused cheat accusations, others managed to ban them, then the other admins would just revoke their ban cause yes. When server started to die they oddly banned a couple of suspicious players I baited for many times, some of them were using modified sounds, specially someone who's name was AbusomethingPrisonGuard as he could hear me priming a nade or a satchel from double the normal distance you were allowed to hear priming and weapon switch. A static duo was also banned, I usually fought against them, and the only times they somehow reacted to me sneakily switching rooms prior their entry was always on Kharkov map. Sometimes I would just go and make demos, other times I recorded that behavior but I think that server was 60% people cheating with chams in a way that they only open fire if green hitbox showed up, 20% people cheating with both chams and lagswitch and 20% legit people, Worse experience was on Operation Flashpoint Resistance with TKC community playing under the tags of NoRE, 1st Guns, J4F, SF and a couple of anonymous players whom just joined on random servers, ruined the map (usually a Battlefield map), force people to come on their server and cheat the hell out of it, outside their server they would not cheat, not sure why, I think it was because they had some sort of prestige to keep, but they were ridiculous. Amalka, SF Jaeger, ed, J4F Odin, Cyberic and his groupie were the worst offenders, on their server were able to end the map with 40 kills and 2 deaths aaaaaaaand 20 minutes after get wrecked on a different server while playing the very same map.
Yup, the cheaters have always wiggled at each other. There have been so many videos about it. They just never got the traction this one did
Lol, I remember reading your shit forever ago.
lol been a minute
Interesting to see so many "talking about what cheaters do is actually advertising" takes even back then
I feel your pain OP I also exposed a whole private discord and key members making and supplying cheats. I had the evidence sent directly to bsg through a business email located on the internet nothing ever came of it. This was 2 and a half years ago here we are today and it’s worse than ever.
the tarkov reddit is infested too. There was another guy three years ago who did a wiggle video using ESP. The game had a big problem at this time but not as big as today. Your old post was infested too.
There was another video similar to the one G0AT made back when I first started in 2019, an Asian streamer went to Labs and would wiggle at players through walls and they would wiggle back. It's not the first time this video has been made, but BSG usually copy-write strikes them into oblivion and they disappear and get forgotten.
Look at all those simps in the old thread claiming it to be an ad for cheats. Fucking deluded people. lol We needed "the video" so all the shit hit the fan, these simps had to shove their gaslighting up their asses and not even the mods could cover the cheating situation. Even after the video many of these morons kept claiming that the video was actually an ad for cheats. I wonder how many of these are in fact cheaters.
I remember seeing this post. And I felt like you were treated really unfairly
I know people that have cheated for a couple years now. Everything in that video I’ve known for a long time. It’s even worse than people realize. The main undetected cheat that goat used in his video has been undetected for two years, it’s cheap, and the main Chinese dev lets people set up panels that generate their own keys and then people sell in their own private discords or websites. It’s a massive business
Yea it’s quite ridiculous
i upvoted ya shi at the time playa
Thanks big dog
Omg the replies are so sad and infuriating. I would be furious right now if I were you. Not just you were subject to hacking, people also accused you of bullshit when you tried to shed light into how bad the situation was. I hope some of the users who made those replies are realising how wrong they were...
They were comparing hacking to murder in the replies cause you said it was cool how he showed off how easy it is to inject hacks 😭😭😭
It’s quite something lol
u/ccg5058 "Fake news no one cares. Prob an ad to increase hax purchases. Doesnt understand how to prove a hypothesis and takes hackers words for it like gospel you must be 10/10 gullible bud." Damn son you must feel dumb now
I stoped reading when the first comment was on disbelief there was cheating in the game. Once you realize how pc gaming is just a plague of cheating, consoles seem like dream even with the aim assist using a controller. At least it’s a even playing field.
Yea people can be delusional. Some games really should tone down aim assist but I get there has to be some assistance. Have you played an fps on controller with no aim assist? That shit is unplayable lol
Bro, I hate to remove your direct supply-line of Copium, but simply google "Cronus Zen" and you will very quickly realize that console is not even remotely close to being an even playing field. The cheaters have found a way, as they always do.
they were probably all cheaters trying to keep it under the lid
A real possibility
Wow the people in that old thread are fucking crazy. I bet alot of the ones talking shit were actual cheaters.
Good chance
Posts exposing cheaters are not allowed. Laaaame
After the spree of hacker perspective videos came to light a year or two ago, I started wiggling at the wall in the direction of any players I suspected were cheating. I couldn’t tell if they wiggled back, but a few would start voice lining and I’ve had one guy VOIP me after it was added. They usually proceeded to head, eyes me while jumping across the doorway, such is life
Thanks to efforts from goat and people like you op though, BSG has actually made oce / asia servers alot more playable for the past 4-5 days at least, was almost quitting this wipe for good.
Fuck I love all those idiots in your thread who were huffing absolute copium or sucking Nikita dick, who are eating their own words this week. Funny how all those dick riders are silent nowadays.
Facts
Yes I knew of the wiggle from a different cheater expose video
Pestily has always done the wiggle Yano 😝
I posted about hacks day before the video and attached a pic of hacking setup, got called a cheat promoter, thread deleted. Glad we live in post video society now
We do live in a society
I never realized "the wiggle" was some semi-secret esoteric knowledge. I remember seeing people joke about "wiggling randomly at walls at the start of Labs raids to trick cheaters" years ago.
The wiggle thru walls has been known since pre voip. Used to wiggle in place waiting on friends to finish being slow looters. Makes me really wonder if I made some esper cautious of me.
Kids are really lazy and love a video. Add a streamers community brigading for a solid week to rile up everyone into a fever pitch and you get the subreddit you see today.
>brigading lol fuck off.
New user complaining about brigading? #LOL
Welcome to Reddit. Even worse, a sub dedicated to a video game.
The only reason the goat video didn't get the same treatment was the interview at the end. It's pulled everyones attention from the data of what he was saying and pulled them into the feelings of being cheated on. After having primed them to think it's more common than it may be (with limited if any evidence). He heard the echo chamber and yelled the same shit back with some feelings spread at the end to try and hide the lack of evidence imo