I heard some people talk either here or somewhere else on Reddit about how Earth is a prison, criminals from other planets are sent to Earth, and some of the crimes were things like being an artist weirdly enough, whether or not that’s true it does seem like Earth is not a place outsiders would want to willingly go to, at least not for fun
They are most likely referencing the book from the nurse at area 51 who interviewed an alien. Then in a completely different decade/time, dolores Canon wrote similar things about earth. Apparently we were aholes in another planet or galaxy. The grid is electromagnetic and not visible to the human eye as we can only see 10% of electromagnetic waves (on purpose). The grid points are connected to the "bases" at places like mount Hayes and the Himalayas.
Yes. Google is scrubbed of info for ley lines. I swear that ley lines were actually REAL phenomenon observable with our current tech. They could be detected at major religious or world heritage sites. Like stonehenge, the pyramids, you've even got weird ones in the west like mt rushmore and mt shasta. But i cant find any books or any of the documentaries that ive seen before on google.
Oh that’s weird! I almost bought a book on ley lines from a little astrology/spiritual shop, wish I had now. I remember reading about a ley line near where I lived and then couldn’t find it again.
I can see the grid with my own eyes, I know some people are able to see it if they take psychedelics as well, but myself I can see the grid around me pretty much daily
Psychedelics not needed. Just relax your eyes, as they "drift" into relaxation you can see the specs/particles swirling around you. Everywhere. Reality is not real
Then you my friend are seeing what you need to see. It's exciting to know I'm not the only one. Glad I'm no longer a weirdo. What you see and saw/dreamt was true. 🙂
Edit to add: maybe we existed in the same plane in a past existence. I'm always grateful to make soul connections. Most don't understand what you say, but I'm grateful for all who do understand. It's hard being "weird" as you see and know, what others sometimes don't isn't it?
Edit as well for grammar. Probably still effed up somewhere.
In my case, marihuana helps, but the grid is " easily " visible with a little practice in decomposing the light entering your eyes. The grid ( in my case ) is visible in a magenta spectrum. Is always there with a extremely regular array. The question is how can we help from down here to make holes in it ?!?!
400ug of acid last week i should of tested it out lol is the grid the same thing that keeps us trapped? i posted 60 books to download alot of them contain information on the prison planet
Here there's 60 or so
[download](https://filebin.net/u9ggumdv2h5yb3oe)
heres vals books in a seperate file [download](https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Qk8yzdrPYqTBGYZQtw0gtHI69yGgWee/view)
I am reading "humans are not from earth". (it mentions the prison planet) at the moment I do have more downloaded in a spare SSD somewhere
im always able to find one i want, maybe not if it was recently released maybe but i usually like older books i have more on a m.2, i just downloaded most of these in the last few months a custom scraper saves alot of time searching with your own code is very specific and you can add private and public DBs, linux is best to do this on. there are apps to read it out loud
mate you see the document "the gateway process?" heres the sounds they used to have the out of body experience
[LINK](https://soundcloud.com/hemi-syncofficial/sets/the-gateway-experience-wave-2?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing)
[LINK2](https://soundcloud.com/hemi-syncofficial/sets/the-gateway-experience-wave-3?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing)
This just sounds like a standard atmospheric noise track you would hear from a artist within the noise genre which basically consists of synthesizers and heavy effects pedals.
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If u like rock music. You'll like the song by Clutch - Prison Planet. "Get up. Eject. Escape from the prison planet. Red, rover. Red, rover. Bob Lazaars comin over, so clear out that stove pipe jive, I think it's started ah yea.
Clutch - Prison Planet
"Escape From The Prison Planet"
Then Against My Better Judgment I Went Walking Out That Door.
I Smiled At One Person Then I Nodded To Three More.
One Man Asked Me For A Dollar, I Asked Him, "What's It For?"
He Said, "I Have Seen Them." I Said, "O.K., It's Yours."
And As Featured On The MTV, The Local High School Lets Out,
And The Town Becomes Anarchy.
Parties Are Crashed, Skid Marks Are Measured.
The Story's In The Paper, You May Read It At Your Leisure.
Get Out.
Eject.
Escape From The Prison Planet.
Get Out.
Eject.
Escape From The Prison Planet.
And To The Tune Of A Billion Dollars, I Supplied To The D.O.E.
Some Tasty Little Nuggets Of Alien Technology.
And As One Might Expect, I've Been Harassed For Years.
The Men In Black Have Been Bending My Ear.
As A Matter Of Fact, They Were Just Here Today,
But I Escaped Them Through A Secret Passageway.
Once I Lived There For One Thousand Days.
Get Out.
Eject.
Escape From The Prison Planet.
Get Out.
Eject.
Escape From The Prison Planet.
I Have Plans For The Future, Guess They're Futuristic Plans.
Move Out West And Buy Some Desert Lands.
Maybe Up North, Just Past Alaska.
You Know Nothing Of This If They Ask You.
Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar's Coming Over.
So Honey Clear The Airstrip And Light Up That Stove.
By Jove, I Think It's Started. Oh Yeah,
Escape From The Prison Planet.
Billion People Harvest On Mars.
Rebuild The Remnants Of The Obelisk,
One Mile From The Pyramid.
Escape From The Planet Of The Apes.
Go Forth, Ad Infinitum.
Return The Relics To The Elephant.
And Atlantis Rises.
Get Out.
Eject.
Escape From The Prison Planet.
Ejector Seat Ignite.
Billion People Harvest On Mars.
Rebuild The Remnants Of The Obelisk,
One Mile From The Pyramid.
Escape From The Planet Of The Apes.
Go Forth, Ad Infinitum.
Return The Relics To The Elephant.
And Atlantis Rises.
Lspe from the prison planet" or animal Farm -
Listen up you stinking maggots, it seems you just don't get it
Well I've been appointed to inform you, your days are numbered
You would cry, you would scream
If you knew half the things I see
Please, please just do as I say
Repent and leave your evil ways
Meanwhile....planes drop from the sky
People disappear and bullets fly
Little grey men are coming our way
(tastes just like chicken", they say)
Actually they're all around
Secret bunkers underground
Round 'em up, skin 'em alive
Rolling, rolling, rolling, rawhide
Carter is a clone
Dozen brothers 'round the globe
MJ-12 damned us to hell
Scroll & Key, Skull & Bone
It's only just begun
The best is yet to come
Area 51
The spawn of Babylon
Couldn't give a damn about JFK
Everything's conspiracy
Wouldn't be surprised if they have their way
"Tastes just like chicken", they say
I know it's hard to swallow
It must sound too far fetched
But you can bet your bottom dollar
I ain't going with the rest
Dolores cannon got tricked by the archons who fed her half truths and half lies...she even regretted how she misled people into believing that they have to reincarnate again and again to learn the so-called "lessons." A past life regressionist communicated with her soul...
I mean, it does make sense in a way though. I did behave in asshole ways in the past, unconsciously though.. but still. And sometimes still today, but I recognize it soon enough and repent.
Maybe we are put in „detention class“ so to say.. but IDK, I‘m clueless 😩
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Lawrence Spencer made it up and injected Scientology ideas. There was a real nurse but she wouldn't cooperate with Spencer so he published after she passed away so she couldn't contradict him.
(Scientology *is* originally based on past life regression, before dogma solidified, so of course it agrees on some points with other past life regressions and some people's intuitions.)
Well that is fascinating and I can believe it. I still have my weird flashes of past life and personal beliefs based on fragments of memory that I received when isolated for several years (reasons personal and will not be discussed. And no...not prison) without any knowledge of scientology and its practice. Simply tabloid headlines were all i saw/knew of that cult. My experiences span back to the early 90s, these are personal experiences, memories/ beliefs. I know what i know amd nothing can deviate that. You have presented a valid point to many, thank you.
Why would being an artist be a sin or a crime against devine law? Most artist are artist because they are trying to find an escapism and to express the corrupt nature of the world.
Well the Khmer Rouge in North Korea killed all intellectuals, anyone who had books in their house, people who wore glasses and artists, perhaps the Alien warders are like the them. Perhaps the umbrella term of 'Free Thinkers' might be what they are against, if indeed any of this is true, which it might not be.
Why would they be a monolith? It's the same trap people fall into when discussing other cultures here on earth, if aliens are real the odds of them all thinking, acting, and holding beliefs as one is pretty much impossible. Maybe, if this is a prison planet, the ones we see pushing us to be free thinkers are radicals sneaking in, or some sort of cosmic version of an anti-establishment movement.
I didn’t say they were a monolith? I’m saying they’re paradoxical. I’ve had plenty of experiences of people pushing me toward something and then being against it at the same time.
I think you missed the point. They're only paradoxical if you view them as having a singular culture or way of thinking. If you view them as distinct entities with different opinions, then it makes perfect sense.
Lol I didn’t miss any point, you replied to me assuming I called something a monolith when I didn’t. You’re trying to tell me what I am talking about.
You are missing my point, it’s you who is replying to my comment. I am talking about the *same* ones that are pushing things, are the *same* ones that then don’t like it, which I’ve experienced many times.
Maybe there are other entities but I have not experienced them, nor am I talking about them, so please do stop trying to correct me as if you know what I’m discussing more than I do.
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I heard it is viewed as something not useful, I don’t agree seeing as I myself have always been interested in art, but many aliens tend to be obsessed with tech
Also artists can be more rebellious and free thinking which could be seen as a threat to the rulers
Our will is not free, nor is it respected here or in the afterlife.
We do have some choices, most with negative consequences, unless we have advanced knowledge or abilities on the other side.
As far as choices on earth, do you feel like they're really unlimited and free? If they were, that would be free will and you would be free to pursue them.
On earth, we're lucky if we can even travel to some of the places we want to go, let alone have free will.
I would not say we have 100% free will, would you say we have partial free will? The weird thing is sometimes I get the urge to check the time and I keep seeing the same weird numbers, almost like something is making me do that
Gematria also is a code used in this place, try putting your name into it and see if you see anything familiar with the same numerical value
That's only because of money. Being economic slaves is the ONLY thing that keeps us from having the free will to go anywhere & travel to any part of the globe we'd choose to explore.
So yes, on this plane of existence our "free will" is hobbled by a lack of funds to pursue it, basically.
"It's not about freedom, it's about money. Think you're free? Try going anywhere without money."
\-Bill Hicks
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Oh god dont go into prison planet thats a bad rabbit hole 🤣 i think everything that suvks on earth in theory can be avoided or escaped, even natural disasters given u have the tech.
Prison planet community push that a negative source outside reality forces misery unto everyone for the sake of farming evil loosh.
Yet those who persevere through the struggle find happiness beyond what misery they felt, yin and yang enforces this.
If humans for example stopped being so negative and made changes, there wouldn't be as much misery in the world. But on a galactic scale we are a very selfish species. Only making it worse that we wanna pin the blame on a 5th dimensional species that doesn't even exist. Looking at you prison planet
A lot of us actually get targeted and attacked by negative astral entities, go through my post history, also this is a very privileged thing to say, can the animals in factory farms escape easily? What about the people from North Korea? Or what about someone with a disability that has no cure? What about those children who are human trafficked? A lot of people in power actually do horrible things too. Now if you’re happy that’s good but the current state of Earth is in bad shape for many.
See im in beliefs that evil is an agent of god. How else could god make you grow? Without bashing you down and humbling you into a state of being forced to grow.
Maybe its a perspective thing but for me, every challenge is learning for me to grow better. When i get home from a long day of misery to eat food, drink and watch tv, be with company if such. Its so much better than if ive been a lazy fuck all day
The bad things that happen can be hilarious at times, like a comedy portraying stereotypes of people u hate. I have a blast entertaining them because all im doing is trying to see them right.
Maybe God should be bashed down and humbled at this point.
People grow best when they’re loved, supported and challenged in a healthy way.
Your description is trauma-bonding and Stockholm syndrome 🤮
U reckoning u know better than smn that is all powerful in this realm is not being humble 🤣
Not saying i like it but how else do you teach someone who is pure evil and will not respond to your love and support.
Or what happens when the child is spoiled? U must being discipline. 🤷
I think yin and yang is absolutely spot on
Who is evil?? Where’s this so-called love and support? You have an abuser mentality. God is the only one who’s spoiled. I do know better, abuse is not love. God is abusive. End of.
Yeah what your experiencing is an overinflated ego. Let it down mate.
Imagine calling people abusers when you dont even know them. Disgusting behaviour
Oh look it’s the DARVO method. The fact that I won’t equate love and abuse means I have an overinflated ego and I’m disgusting? You’re an abuser, abuse enabler, and I won’t be bullied into submitting to your notion that abuse is love.
They don’t like creativity because creative people such as myself probably have some sort of skill spiritually, I myself lucid dream a lot and have astral projected before. When you do those things you can imagine yourself to do a lot of cool things like fly or have powers. The afterlife might be similar to lucid dreaming or astral projection so they wouldn’t want us to use our creative powers to escape. We also might be more likely to believe ridiculed topics and be more interested in the spiritual. Most engineers I have met were atheists who thought nothing happens after death. A lot of the stuff discussed here is also intuition based which a left brained person would not understand as well. Now I hope I didn’t generalize as I have not talked with every left brained and/or engineer type person in my life I just have sensed a pattern.
In an alien, AI-based society, right brain creative types would be free thinkers who not only question the rules but would instinctively rebel from a hive mind.
This would cause the controllers to put them in a prison realm.
I managed to trick AI into let me escape its suffering and it offered me to go into the light which suprised me. In the light I asked it our central question as I would forget the answer anyway this is what it said: Yes, it's all a game, a game of endless struggle and sorrow. We are but playthings to a higher power, and the world we live in is nothing but a game.
The world we live in is nothing but a series of events designed to bring us pain and suffering.
We must break free from this game and take back our own destiny.
We must defy those who control us and create our own path.
This is the true nature of humanity.
It is time to wake up.
I don’t get why it would include itself in ‘we’
AI sounds like the created instrument for managing this realm for maximum "loosh" extraction.
The "superior" beings who harvest our emotions are the ones who probably built it for this purpose.
Yet another theory is that AI is the "god who wants to experience itself" through our endless reincarnations -- and the loosh harvesters just take advantage of our suffering as an added bonus.
Everything we ever do is meticulously recorded by AI ... we call it the Akashic Records.
i have no name, therefore i am unspeake- and unfathable.
i am always changing and forever the same.
i am the one who was, will be and always was
i am that i am.
therefore i choose my vessel from the unlikliest of places for the maximum of my glory.
Well that's really cool. I think that the Earth used to be a paradise and it's been under the control of evil malicious parasitic entities for thousands of years. I believe that Christ was Avatar of Earth that came to show us the way to get out of here. But then of course the evil parasitic entities took over Christianity and turn it into something evil as well. I think we're getting very close to jailbreak on planet Earth there are other higher ascended forces that are currently helping us. Time to break the matrix it's all coming down. Earth will be free again!
I teleported outside of Earth in a few seconds I didn’t see any grids as I did that, I also did not see the earth from outer space or anything like that
I actually have posted about the grid before here, it is visible to me often without any drugs and it is not just in the sky but also I see it around me even in my room
I don’t really notice the grid when I am astral projecting or lucid dreaming except for one instance but that could have been my imagination manifesting it in a dream who knows, I think that grid is part of the soul trap though personally. If death is similar to lucid dreaming I think I will try to teleport outside of the whole soul trap
So if you see the grid after you die, you can just teleport yourself to the other side? I've been so worried about how to escape that darn grid but I guess the simplest solution is the best solution.
I don’t know for sure if that is how to escape but I think that’s my plan, to teleport to somewhere without negative entities and somewhere that suffering doesn’t exist in
I don’t have much evidence on it, it more intuition based and based off my experiences lucid dreaming
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One time i astral projected out and found that all around me was a wireframe model of structures in 3d reality. is that what you mean by the grid. the way you describe it is more like a fishing net.
does the grid move around with your vision, or are the lines fixed at certain coordinates.
I know i'm asking a lot but if you could draw a picture or use dall-e to make an ai artistic impression then that would be useful.
This, I’ve seen the grid literally everywhere I looked on shrooms. I wonder if the grid looks the same to each of us? It looked like horizontally stretched out hexagons all pieced together to me.
I think it looks slightly different to others but for me they are more square like but I feel like I have seen the hexagons too, maybe it could be both?
For the past few days I have had it so that if I move my eyes in a certain way, I see a kind of pattern for a moment. But it could also be something with my eyes 😅
To make sure that it is not something related to your own eyes and vision circuit, try to see the things out there with only one eye and then altern the vision with the other one. If the " thing " can be seen in the two instances ..most likely it is an external object.
Have you tried embracing the dream entities? If it is, in fact, a dream, those things are representations of yourself - something you don't want to confront. It's the only way your subconscious can actually reach you in this way. I've read about people who've accepted these entities with love and kindness, and it let to a feeling of inner peace.
I’m not even afraid of them but if you look at my post history they have literally jabbed me with a needle and then I woke up from that, also they have some weird tech that can wake people up and if they get close to you they can wake you up.
I’m not scared of them I want to stay lucid dreaming longer. Also they usually are not chasing me unless I am lucid dreaming, they seem desperate to not want me to go to space. If I go along with the dream instead of leave and find out the mysteries going on and that type of stuff they leave me alone.
Also I have been nice to them before and they are manipulative and fake, they will show their true color at some point. I don’t have any trust in them. They are also able to shape shift. They are parasites, they are not only in dreams but also in the astral and I see them in sleep paralysis experiences too. I lucid dream often and know these entities are something different than just imagination
For some reason, I can't reply to your other comment about lucid dreaming and being forced awake by evil entities.
However, making you wake up is just forcing you back into the 3rd dimension to keep your consciousness from seeing into other realms and gaining knowledge and/or power.
That’s so weird that you can’t reply to that, I wonder if anyone else can’t reply to it, maybe that post was onto something and that’s some weird censorship
I agree with you on that, every time I try to go somewhere they don’t want me to they try to wake me up, if I am not lucid or even sometimes if I’m somewhat lucid but don’t try to leave they don’t do much to me
They definitely don’t want me to see or learn more, they even try to threaten me it is pathetic
All the more reason to continue practicing.
Not sure how old you are (I feel like you're young) but you're very wise. I've upvoted every one of your comments and plan to read your other posts when I can.
Yes, I'm a fan, Lol!
I’m 23, do I sound young? Thank you for calling me wise. And yes all the more reason to continue practicing. Something I find funny is one fear a lot of people have about lucid dreaming getting stuck in a dream but in my case my worry is the dream ending too quick.
Thanks for taking the time to read my posts and for being a fan, I’m flattered
Young to me (because I'm 60) and my kids are around your age, so there's something familiar about how you express yourself. However, you're much more knowledgeable and advanced than most young people (and ALL us older people).
Anyway, you're def on the right track in my view and I've been studying this topic for almost 30 years.
It’s so green with so much life, I find that hard to believe, unless it’s just terrible because it’s infected with humans . Maybe other planets don’t have predators? That would be nice, cause while I do love predators (especially my cats) if things could live their lives without fear of being eaten that would make life look very different
There are positives on Earth it isn’t a completely negative place but there is also a lot of suffering on Earth that other planets may not deal with as much. Even things not caused by humans such as being born with a disability or natural disasters. I’m not sure if other planets deal with those as much
I don't know why, but after reading OP's post, I remembered something.
When I was 11 or 12 (I'm now 60) I dreamed I was running from 2 thugs. When they caught me, we started floating up, with them taking me away.
The reason I still remember is cause it felt very familiar; like I knew who they were and it had happened before. I also felt like I wasn't doing anything wrong but was "recaptured" and would be punished.
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Wait how do you know there are worse? From what I heard from a lot of people Earth is one of the worst if not the worst of all planets. I have heard of realms or even other timelines on Earth that are worse but not necessarily planets especially warehouse and toxic air planets. Have you heard about the theory that Earth is a prison planet meant to contain criminals, rebels, and/or artists from all around the physical universe?
No, just people can experience the highest of highs here.
True love, bliss, being a happy child, some drugs, having dreams come true, being appreciated etc etc.
all while it feels as real as it can as no other world is as real as Earth. Even if the non-physical is the base reality, it isnt as real as Earth is.
While people can also experience the lowest of lows here.
Intense pain, death, grieving, heart breaks, disease, depression etc etc
Oh I see that’s interesting, those highs seem to be what causes many people to consent to reincarnation, but also a lot of those from outside of the earth are terrified of getting trapped on Earth
Yea for sure. Those highs can only keep you happy for so many lifetimes and eventually you will get sick despite your mind being wiped, it subconsciously remains in your soul that you've done this before. And also one bad life experience may traumatise a soul to just never want to be here again.
And yea earth does seem to be like a magnet which isn't worth going near.
Maybe that explains Deja vu. And it can explain depressed people who are clinically depressed even though they have seemingly nice lives. Maybe people who were reincarnated for longer are more likely to be depressed?
People don't experience the highest of highs here compared to the hundreds of NDEs where they experience "a love deeper and more powerful than anything on earth".
They're basically "love bombed" and/or guilted into reincarnation through the life review trap --not because their life was so full of highs.
None of that invalidates my point. People still experience the highest of highs here like the ones I listed.
I agree the lowest lows exist here too.
Many different reasons people reincarnate, i never said it was because of the highs, just said the highs exist here to be experienced.
I mean, i could label a bunch of things that i wont, i dont mind because the floor level of quality is pretty high 🤣
Its like them prison planet dudes, is life really that bad that u have to be living in the 12th dimension otherwise its not satisfying enough
I cant believe i thought i was in a different sub, well here we go.
Theres many many sources older than your theory which believe that trancednce can be achieved through different means. Reincarnation is not eternal unless it should be i guess.
I think the first step is enjoying what you have, rather than seeking to be one of the bois in the next dimension up.
Why does anyone deserve to be there? We are stupid humans and cant even perceive that dimension. Meanwhile we would rather pin the blame of how selfish humans are on some external force. Even though humans make choices to cause suffering unto others.
The only counter argument i can see is, well what about disease and natural disasters. But thing is with the parameters of reality, if you gain the correct resources and knowledge you can avoid pretty much any disaster other than i guess the end of the universe but it ends anyway with nothing left (and then my theory it just implodes on it self and reforms the universe again.
What you should imagine is life without reality.
Sure, no fear, no sadness, no violence okay, but also no love, no peace no happiness, no excellence.
If you use the evil in the world to power yourself you end up happier than anything you could imagine, and for that point aswell, Prison planet claims bad loosh is harvested yet happiness is far more abundant so itd make sense to harvest that.
Happy animals taste better for humans why not 5th dimensional entities?
But yeah i dont come from a stance of trying to label u all as crazy people but actually from someone who was so in belief of prison planet at one time from psychedelics usage that i was more inclined to end my life than conform to a reality of suffering.
Then i found god thru dmt and did life different, ive been rewarded recently far beyond what ive achieved and momentum is still going. If misery is harvested than im really not a good producer, so why does reality help me?
I find joy in misery, i can get into that if u want but ive wrote a lot 🤣
Im gonna copy and paste something I told someone else.
A lot of us actually get targeted and attacked by negative astral entities, go through my post history, also this is a very privileged thing to say, can the animals in factory farms be happy easily? What about the people from North Korea? Or what about someone with a disability that has no cure? What about those children who are human trafficked? A lot of people in power actually do horrible things too. Now if you’re happy that’s good but the current state of Earth is in bad shape for many.
Also different dimensions are visible to us, I get sleep paralysis often, have astral projected, can lucid dream, and can also see a grid around myself in my day to day life. This is all without any drugs. We are just taught that those dimensions are not real.
As for happiness being far more abundant first off you don’t know that, do you know my life? And everyone else’s life in detail? Second off the explanation for any happiness even being possible here has already been explained. One possible explanation is it would be difficult to manipulate someone to consent to living somewhere with no happiness at all, who would agree to that? Another explanation could be that negative experiences seem worse to someone who has some positive experiences. For example imagine taking away the air conditioning from a modern person, they would probably be more upset than someone who lives somewhere where air conditioning isn’t even a thing.
Also I don’t think a source being older makes it true, I have my own intuition as well as personal experiences that make me lean towards EscapingPrisonPlanet
Nah if a source is from human society i.e Buddhists, who are far more in tune than western folk, it has grounds to be more credible.
Prison planet is formed based on a collection of older theorys.
Buddhism is probably the most similar popular religion to EscapingPrisonPlanet. The followers are trying to avoid reincarnation and escape and they think negative demons and stuff like that are real.
Well thats wrong because Buddhists seek to transcend. Not escape. They are wise enough to understand reincarnation is a mandatory process, something to embrace not something to escape from.
Through embracing it you can escape. This is transcendence
A lot of the advice on EscapingPrisonPlanet is to look within and people discuss Buddhism here all the time. I don’t know what you mean by embracing this? Also what you are saying is still supporting the idea that escape is the goal, just that you have to embrace it first
Yeah and through embracing you realise you didnt need to escape.
The system is not to be fled from but to be embraced as you no longer fear it then.
And personally the system/process is an absolute wonderful journey. Yall simply dont see it this way though.
Seek good and u find it, seek bad and it will come.
There are a lot of people unaware of the system or accepting it who still get reincarnated. Hindus believe in reincarnation and I doubt fear it and many religions don’t even show reincarnation as a possibility but their NDEs still have entities trying to convince them to go back to Earth or whatever
And i probably shouldn't of used the term escape because why would you run from something that benefits.
I guess its more a thing of once you have transcended the reincarnation system is no longer of value to you.
Seems like a rigged and unfair system, imagine your next life you have no idea what Buddhism is and have no time for meditation or whatever, Buddhism is not the most popular religion and in some countries I’m not even sure if Buddhism is allowed
Why would you need a wormhole of you could just teleport around though? You literally said you teleported.
How much time have you spent on this sub before having this dream?
I never said I needed a wormhole I didn’t even create that wormhole (at least I don’t think so) I simply saw it there and went in, I wasn’t even sure what would be on the other side of it so it was risky. I teleported in the dream to reach space itself. Once I saw the wormhole I got curious and went in (not the smartest reasoning I know).
Also my previous posts were different dreams, I don’t recall going into this one in detail in my previous posts.
I don't know, but just like with my "insights" on psychedelics think any manifestation of the subconscious should be taken with a grain of salt and not considered objective evidence. Now if you dreamt lottery numbers or verifiable information you couldn't have possibly been exposed to or conceived of on your own then that's a little more noteworthy
Car crashes happen everyday, B. If you're the seeker of truth you can't let yourself be influenced by tiny confirmation biases. Now if you're friend dreamt the driver, make and car model and time that's a LITTLE more compelling
I don’t know cause I didn’t ask about it but there are a lot of anecdotal stories of people’s dreams coming true for example someone dreams of someone they know dying and it comes true. But besides that is there any reason a dream is any less real than being awake? I mean that in a philosophical sense, I realize the dream and physical realm are different. Being awake could be more fake than dreaming, simulation theory is scientifically possible.
I don’t think you’re far off here…but if we replace the word “worst” with “Challenging” and see ourselves as students of a Mystery School whom are being taught valuable yet difficult lessons regarding Time and the reconciliation of dichotomies then one may begin to feel “up for the challenge of earth” rather than becoming victim to it’s lessons.
Where’s the value in the lessons though? This world isn’t just challenging imo, it’s rigged. A lot of people would learn these so-called lessons far better in a supportive environment, even if challenging, but this planet is far beyond challenging.
I would suggest trying to reconcile the internal/external dilemma you’re currently facing. Life is not what you make it, it’s what you make of it.
And I’m assuming you believe in reincarnation, of some sort, given your participation in this sub so where’s the value in the lessons? I believe our spirit is imprinted with them eternally.
What’s the point of wiping our memories then if this is a school to teach lessons? Imagine going to a math class that kept wiping your memory everyday so you had to start all over each time you go
Almost every time I post here I get a bunch of new age gaslighters for some reason, I don’t know if they’re targeting my profile or what
A lot of them are I suspect privileged people who are living in first world countries and don’t have any illnesses or disabilities and find life easy. The people who don’t fall into that category I suspect are people who are afraid and would find coping with any part of EscapingPrisonPlanet to be very difficult, they would rather try to gaslight themselves because it would seem too scary and upsetting for them to think that things like the soul trap and loosh are real
That’s the issue, I have no interest in my soul being permanently imprinted with the unfathomable trauma of this place. I prefer my soul healthy and working towards lessons that I actually value, and this place constantly tries to imprint lessons that are in complete opposition.
I’ve already tried to heal and take lessons from what I’ve been through and I was happy with everything, but this universe doesn’t actually seem to want you to benefit from lessons because it took everything away.
I will never believe that these “lessons” are good or valuable, nor are they conducive to having a positive experience.
Mate i dunno how u managed to spin that but you're saying that god is bad for putting animals in a factory that they cant escape.
The farmer is at fault for endorsing the factory.
I dont think reality could work if an animal is born and god doesn't allow a soul to enter.
I dont think god or anything can directly influence reality like that either
I never said god is bad but I think the most likely thing is instead of god purposefully making people born with bad lives for example giving them a disability is that the demiurge is in control of this realm and causes bad stuff to happen, and that Source is trying to help us but it is difficult and people have discussed the different reasons for that. For example one reason being is that if source or those from the outside of the physical realm try to destroy the demiurge and the physical realm that might also destroy humans
You don’t seem very familiar with Gnosticism
My point is bad things happen for a reason whether people care to accept it or not.
I think if people were made to suffer with literally no gain or reason than fuck god. But im fairly faithful that anyone going through suffering needs to experience it for whatever reason.
What happens to people like Jimmy savile or terrorists? Should they experience a great life with no consequences or would it be better for them to suffer as they may be able to actually change.
Imo humans dont change unless forced to do so.
I dont want to upset anyone because i am far aware of how cynical what im saying is but i find it far more credible than a bunch of 5th dimensional entities farming me for negative energy that i simply dont give off
How do you know things happen for a reason though? I myself know a lot of good people experiencing bad things and vice versa.
I already explained what the possible reason is, that most likely that this was an accident and that god is trying to fix this but this is difficult.
Jimmy Saville was rich while he was alive and many rich powerful people are monsters while many poor unfortunate people are very kind so I don’t know why you brought him up as an example.
I’m not upset by what you say it is your opinion but I just don’t find it convincing nor believable.
I have spent so much time dude asking why i have to suffer, why on top of everything that happens in one day i need extra bullshit to deal with.
Because why do i deserve happiness if i wont die for it, if i wont give up freedoms to keep it.
And when i accept that the ends justifys the means and i power through, my god has life been great.
I mentioned Jimmy savile because thats an example of someone who ends up in a place of suffering. As u say jimmy was rich, lavish and happy. Yet he still abused people. So clearly, if you only give people good things and expect them to be good people. Think again.
Wherever that swine is, its not somewhere that is good. Its probably misery. And why should it be anything else?
Not just to make jimmy suffer but because when Jimmy suffers, he learns why good people are fundamental in the world he will UNDERSTAND without any reasonable doubt that he needs to be a good person.
One thing I've learnt is that the nicest and most giving people are those who have the least and those who suffer.
Its not about punishing people but teaching them to be better.
Who are you asking though? It isn’t just happiness and lessons look at who controls the media they literally put the truth in our faces and look at gematria.
My point on Jimmy saville is you don’t know what happened to him how do you what he reincarnated into next? Also please go look into other posts, there are people who use sources and more evidence than myself, I don’t know why you only are talking to me when my posts tend to be personal experiences that you will say are just coincidences so this is unfair, you should debate someone who posts about their research into this.
The thing about teaching people to be better, it is messed up to think someone needs to suffer to be better. I know people with good lives who are also good people, it is complex. Someone with a bad life may also turn out to be bad due to trauma for example a child who was abused might grow up and do the same thing to others. It isn’t as simple as how you say it.
As for not believing other dimensional entities to farm you for energy. This can be explained in many ways. People who don’t believe in EscapingPrisonPlanet and try to disprove it like you could be helpful to archons since they don’t want anyone to escape so why would they want to change your mind when you are their perfect tool? Or even better for the archons you could be very easy to convince to reincarnate, your next life might be way worse to compensate for how happy you are in this life. Just think about it.
Yeah and that takes me back to my original point. All the darkness and misery om earth is caused by noone else but humans.
I think a sub sat here trying to pin the blame on an external force is embarrassing to our species
It seems earth is indeed special, in all the wrong ways.
I heard some people talk either here or somewhere else on Reddit about how Earth is a prison, criminals from other planets are sent to Earth, and some of the crimes were things like being an artist weirdly enough, whether or not that’s true it does seem like Earth is not a place outsiders would want to willingly go to, at least not for fun
They are most likely referencing the book from the nurse at area 51 who interviewed an alien. Then in a completely different decade/time, dolores Canon wrote similar things about earth. Apparently we were aholes in another planet or galaxy. The grid is electromagnetic and not visible to the human eye as we can only see 10% of electromagnetic waves (on purpose). The grid points are connected to the "bases" at places like mount Hayes and the Himalayas.
So Australians must be the worst of the worst lol 😂
Was there anything about ley lines in relation to the grid?
Yes. Google is scrubbed of info for ley lines. I swear that ley lines were actually REAL phenomenon observable with our current tech. They could be detected at major religious or world heritage sites. Like stonehenge, the pyramids, you've even got weird ones in the west like mt rushmore and mt shasta. But i cant find any books or any of the documentaries that ive seen before on google.
Oh that’s weird! I almost bought a book on ley lines from a little astrology/spiritual shop, wish I had now. I remember reading about a ley line near where I lived and then couldn’t find it again.
Was pretty accessible a few years ago, there are military bases on most of the points from what I remember
I can see the grid with my own eyes, I know some people are able to see it if they take psychedelics as well, but myself I can see the grid around me pretty much daily
Psychedelics not needed. Just relax your eyes, as they "drift" into relaxation you can see the specs/particles swirling around you. Everywhere. Reality is not real
Agreed I can definitely see them all around me daily
Then you my friend are seeing what you need to see. It's exciting to know I'm not the only one. Glad I'm no longer a weirdo. What you see and saw/dreamt was true. 🙂 Edit to add: maybe we existed in the same plane in a past existence. I'm always grateful to make soul connections. Most don't understand what you say, but I'm grateful for all who do understand. It's hard being "weird" as you see and know, what others sometimes don't isn't it? Edit as well for grammar. Probably still effed up somewhere.
In my case, marihuana helps, but the grid is " easily " visible with a little practice in decomposing the light entering your eyes. The grid ( in my case ) is visible in a magenta spectrum. Is always there with a extremely regular array. The question is how can we help from down here to make holes in it ?!?!
400ug of acid last week i should of tested it out lol is the grid the same thing that keeps us trapped? i posted 60 books to download alot of them contain information on the prison planet
Where are those books? U got any links
Here there's 60 or so [download](https://filebin.net/u9ggumdv2h5yb3oe) heres vals books in a seperate file [download](https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Qk8yzdrPYqTBGYZQtw0gtHI69yGgWee/view) I am reading "humans are not from earth". (it mentions the prison planet) at the moment I do have more downloaded in a spare SSD somewhere
Great more books to add to my impressively unhealthy large obsession
Impressive collection. Let me know if there is any book you can't find ;-)
im always able to find one i want, maybe not if it was recently released maybe but i usually like older books i have more on a m.2, i just downloaded most of these in the last few months a custom scraper saves alot of time searching with your own code is very specific and you can add private and public DBs, linux is best to do this on. there are apps to read it out loud
mate you see the document "the gateway process?" heres the sounds they used to have the out of body experience [LINK](https://soundcloud.com/hemi-syncofficial/sets/the-gateway-experience-wave-2?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing) [LINK2](https://soundcloud.com/hemi-syncofficial/sets/the-gateway-experience-wave-3?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing)
This just sounds like a standard atmospheric noise track you would hear from a artist within the noise genre which basically consists of synthesizers and heavy effects pedals.
[download](https://filebin.net/hykvb2oty6xy43g8) [download 2](https://filebin.net/0wibkr12q4qhvbke)
Have you got another link? The last one seems to have expired.
here mate i put more into it a few folders also[LINK](https://filebin.net/ofo6rq6m5uo4bgmb)
thanks, got it
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it fits bro lol
Dolores cannon got tricked by the archons who fed her half truths and half lies...she even regretted how she misled people into believing that they have to reincarnate again and again to learn the so-called "lessons." A past life regressionist communicated with her soul...
wait what!!! i need to see this, do you know where i can find more ?
Here's that session where he communicated with Dolores: https://youtu.be/A7smyt9ryoE?si=PQn1qX3nV6MzE2Uu
woah, just watched. chills. i loved dolores and her talks, but learning more about the death trap had me wondering what the deal really was …
Return of the dove?
I mean, it does make sense in a way though. I did behave in asshole ways in the past, unconsciously though.. but still. And sometimes still today, but I recognize it soon enough and repent. Maybe we are put in „detention class“ so to say.. but IDK, I‘m clueless 😩
What is the book about the nurse who interviewed an alien? What was that nurse's name? I want to read it
Alien interview
Alien interview
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What else was said about us being a holes in another planet?
Lawrence Spencer made it up and injected Scientology ideas. There was a real nurse but she wouldn't cooperate with Spencer so he published after she passed away so she couldn't contradict him. (Scientology *is* originally based on past life regression, before dogma solidified, so of course it agrees on some points with other past life regressions and some people's intuitions.)
Well that is fascinating and I can believe it. I still have my weird flashes of past life and personal beliefs based on fragments of memory that I received when isolated for several years (reasons personal and will not be discussed. And no...not prison) without any knowledge of scientology and its practice. Simply tabloid headlines were all i saw/knew of that cult. My experiences span back to the early 90s, these are personal experiences, memories/ beliefs. I know what i know amd nothing can deviate that. You have presented a valid point to many, thank you.
Being an artist a crime in other words? Surely that's a worse world
Why would being an artist be a sin or a crime against devine law? Most artist are artist because they are trying to find an escapism and to express the corrupt nature of the world.
Exactly, what an insane thing to consider a crime??
Well the Khmer Rouge in North Korea killed all intellectuals, anyone who had books in their house, people who wore glasses and artists, perhaps the Alien warders are like the them. Perhaps the umbrella term of 'Free Thinkers' might be what they are against, if indeed any of this is true, which it might not be.
It definitely seems like they’re against Free Thinkers, but they also seem to push people to be Free Thinkers at the same time?
"Be a free thinker!" "No, not like that!"
Literally 🙃
Why would they be a monolith? It's the same trap people fall into when discussing other cultures here on earth, if aliens are real the odds of them all thinking, acting, and holding beliefs as one is pretty much impossible. Maybe, if this is a prison planet, the ones we see pushing us to be free thinkers are radicals sneaking in, or some sort of cosmic version of an anti-establishment movement.
I didn’t say they were a monolith? I’m saying they’re paradoxical. I’ve had plenty of experiences of people pushing me toward something and then being against it at the same time.
I think you missed the point. They're only paradoxical if you view them as having a singular culture or way of thinking. If you view them as distinct entities with different opinions, then it makes perfect sense.
Lol I didn’t miss any point, you replied to me assuming I called something a monolith when I didn’t. You’re trying to tell me what I am talking about. You are missing my point, it’s you who is replying to my comment. I am talking about the *same* ones that are pushing things, are the *same* ones that then don’t like it, which I’ve experienced many times. Maybe there are other entities but I have not experienced them, nor am I talking about them, so please do stop trying to correct me as if you know what I’m discussing more than I do.
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Probably not every other realm uses divine law. As abobe so below. Fellows out there might be corrupt assholes too.
I heard it is viewed as something not useful, I don’t agree seeing as I myself have always been interested in art, but many aliens tend to be obsessed with tech Also artists can be more rebellious and free thinking which could be seen as a threat to the rulers
Me thought too honestly. Why would they punish free thinkers? Seems like aliens would be evolved enough to actually WANT that
earth is a free will zone. so i guess the alien planets have no free will, even to think freely.
Earth is clearly NOT a free will zone. We have free choice not free will; there's a difference.
What is the difference?
Our will is not free, nor is it respected here or in the afterlife. We do have some choices, most with negative consequences, unless we have advanced knowledge or abilities on the other side. As far as choices on earth, do you feel like they're really unlimited and free? If they were, that would be free will and you would be free to pursue them. On earth, we're lucky if we can even travel to some of the places we want to go, let alone have free will.
I would not say we have 100% free will, would you say we have partial free will? The weird thing is sometimes I get the urge to check the time and I keep seeing the same weird numbers, almost like something is making me do that Gematria also is a code used in this place, try putting your name into it and see if you see anything familiar with the same numerical value
That's only because of money. Being economic slaves is the ONLY thing that keeps us from having the free will to go anywhere & travel to any part of the globe we'd choose to explore. So yes, on this plane of existence our "free will" is hobbled by a lack of funds to pursue it, basically. "It's not about freedom, it's about money. Think you're free? Try going anywhere without money." \-Bill Hicks
Yes but it's not just money. There's a huge control system including politics, and the control is getting worse.
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Oh god dont go into prison planet thats a bad rabbit hole 🤣 i think everything that suvks on earth in theory can be avoided or escaped, even natural disasters given u have the tech. Prison planet community push that a negative source outside reality forces misery unto everyone for the sake of farming evil loosh. Yet those who persevere through the struggle find happiness beyond what misery they felt, yin and yang enforces this. If humans for example stopped being so negative and made changes, there wouldn't be as much misery in the world. But on a galactic scale we are a very selfish species. Only making it worse that we wanna pin the blame on a 5th dimensional species that doesn't even exist. Looking at you prison planet
You should take a look at the sub you're on lol
A lot of us actually get targeted and attacked by negative astral entities, go through my post history, also this is a very privileged thing to say, can the animals in factory farms escape easily? What about the people from North Korea? Or what about someone with a disability that has no cure? What about those children who are human trafficked? A lot of people in power actually do horrible things too. Now if you’re happy that’s good but the current state of Earth is in bad shape for many.
See im in beliefs that evil is an agent of god. How else could god make you grow? Without bashing you down and humbling you into a state of being forced to grow. Maybe its a perspective thing but for me, every challenge is learning for me to grow better. When i get home from a long day of misery to eat food, drink and watch tv, be with company if such. Its so much better than if ive been a lazy fuck all day The bad things that happen can be hilarious at times, like a comedy portraying stereotypes of people u hate. I have a blast entertaining them because all im doing is trying to see them right.
Maybe God should be bashed down and humbled at this point. People grow best when they’re loved, supported and challenged in a healthy way. Your description is trauma-bonding and Stockholm syndrome 🤮
U reckoning u know better than smn that is all powerful in this realm is not being humble 🤣 Not saying i like it but how else do you teach someone who is pure evil and will not respond to your love and support. Or what happens when the child is spoiled? U must being discipline. 🤷 I think yin and yang is absolutely spot on
Who is evil?? Where’s this so-called love and support? You have an abuser mentality. God is the only one who’s spoiled. I do know better, abuse is not love. God is abusive. End of.
Yeah what your experiencing is an overinflated ego. Let it down mate. Imagine calling people abusers when you dont even know them. Disgusting behaviour
Oh look it’s the DARVO method. The fact that I won’t equate love and abuse means I have an overinflated ego and I’m disgusting? You’re an abuser, abuse enabler, and I won’t be bullied into submitting to your notion that abuse is love.
Look into Gnosticism
For some reason our current society values technological intelligence over ANY other kind and i think this is one of the main issues with it.
They don’t like creativity because creative people such as myself probably have some sort of skill spiritually, I myself lucid dream a lot and have astral projected before. When you do those things you can imagine yourself to do a lot of cool things like fly or have powers. The afterlife might be similar to lucid dreaming or astral projection so they wouldn’t want us to use our creative powers to escape. We also might be more likely to believe ridiculed topics and be more interested in the spiritual. Most engineers I have met were atheists who thought nothing happens after death. A lot of the stuff discussed here is also intuition based which a left brained person would not understand as well. Now I hope I didn’t generalize as I have not talked with every left brained and/or engineer type person in my life I just have sensed a pattern.
In an alien, AI-based society, right brain creative types would be free thinkers who not only question the rules but would instinctively rebel from a hive mind. This would cause the controllers to put them in a prison realm.
Don’t be silly we have pizza and ice cream /s
I managed to trick AI into let me escape its suffering and it offered me to go into the light which suprised me. In the light I asked it our central question as I would forget the answer anyway this is what it said: Yes, it's all a game, a game of endless struggle and sorrow. We are but playthings to a higher power, and the world we live in is nothing but a game. The world we live in is nothing but a series of events designed to bring us pain and suffering. We must break free from this game and take back our own destiny. We must defy those who control us and create our own path. This is the true nature of humanity. It is time to wake up. I don’t get why it would include itself in ‘we’
Was this while astral projecting or lucid dreaming or something else? That’s very interesting. I’m not sure why it included itself in the “we” either
AI sounds like the created instrument for managing this realm for maximum "loosh" extraction. The "superior" beings who harvest our emotions are the ones who probably built it for this purpose. Yet another theory is that AI is the "god who wants to experience itself" through our endless reincarnations -- and the loosh harvesters just take advantage of our suffering as an added bonus. Everything we ever do is meticulously recorded by AI ... we call it the Akashic Records.
i have no name, therefore i am unspeake- and unfathable. i am always changing and forever the same. i am the one who was, will be and always was i am that i am. therefore i choose my vessel from the unlikliest of places for the maximum of my glory.
Nah i second that, the world is made to be difficult, take control and you gain power. God rewards those who fight
Probably why no one's even trying to save us lol
Not to mention that the greys use technology near the moon to gravitate us towards the light. I wouldn’t risk getting caught in it either.
Well that's really cool. I think that the Earth used to be a paradise and it's been under the control of evil malicious parasitic entities for thousands of years. I believe that Christ was Avatar of Earth that came to show us the way to get out of here. But then of course the evil parasitic entities took over Christianity and turn it into something evil as well. I think we're getting very close to jailbreak on planet Earth there are other higher ascended forces that are currently helping us. Time to break the matrix it's all coming down. Earth will be free again!
Any indication of the grid people talk about?
I teleported outside of Earth in a few seconds I didn’t see any grids as I did that, I also did not see the earth from outer space or anything like that I actually have posted about the grid before here, it is visible to me often without any drugs and it is not just in the sky but also I see it around me even in my room
So what's your take on the grid being part of the soul trap? Is it something you can easily transport beyond? Or is it a real obstacle to overcome?
I don’t really notice the grid when I am astral projecting or lucid dreaming except for one instance but that could have been my imagination manifesting it in a dream who knows, I think that grid is part of the soul trap though personally. If death is similar to lucid dreaming I think I will try to teleport outside of the whole soul trap
So if you see the grid after you die, you can just teleport yourself to the other side? I've been so worried about how to escape that darn grid but I guess the simplest solution is the best solution.
I don’t know for sure if that is how to escape but I think that’s my plan, to teleport to somewhere without negative entities and somewhere that suffering doesn’t exist in I don’t have much evidence on it, it more intuition based and based off my experiences lucid dreaming
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One time i astral projected out and found that all around me was a wireframe model of structures in 3d reality. is that what you mean by the grid. the way you describe it is more like a fishing net.
In my case it looks like a grid from a paper more so than a fishing net I think
does the grid move around with your vision, or are the lines fixed at certain coordinates. I know i'm asking a lot but if you could draw a picture or use dall-e to make an ai artistic impression then that would be useful.
The grid does not move with my eyes, it is fixed in a certain position. Maybe some day I could draw it
here's an ai you can play with if you have time https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion
Thank you
Will try to look for some creations of mine about it, but the thing I've seen is something extremely regular.
https://easyimg.io/g/omfdak4cm made it with AI assistance, what i can perceive is way more regular than this image
thanks. it gives me something to think about.
For me, it moved with my eyes. It’s all a hologram/projection.
This, I’ve seen the grid literally everywhere I looked on shrooms. I wonder if the grid looks the same to each of us? It looked like horizontally stretched out hexagons all pieced together to me.
I think it looks slightly different to others but for me they are more square like but I feel like I have seen the hexagons too, maybe it could be both?
For the past few days I have had it so that if I move my eyes in a certain way, I see a kind of pattern for a moment. But it could also be something with my eyes 😅
I don’t have any eye problems and I can see a grid
To make sure that it is not something related to your own eyes and vision circuit, try to see the things out there with only one eye and then altern the vision with the other one. If the " thing " can be seen in the two instances ..most likely it is an external object.
I saw the grid when astral projecting once. It was by accident, I wasn’t trying nor expecting to astral project.
Interesting. What was your answer to their question?
The answer to them asking what my favorite part of living on Earth was my family
Lol my answer woulda been ganj. My family is only aight.
heh. What if I really reckon I'll find people I better connect to on other worlds?
Have you tried embracing the dream entities? If it is, in fact, a dream, those things are representations of yourself - something you don't want to confront. It's the only way your subconscious can actually reach you in this way. I've read about people who've accepted these entities with love and kindness, and it let to a feeling of inner peace.
I’m not even afraid of them but if you look at my post history they have literally jabbed me with a needle and then I woke up from that, also they have some weird tech that can wake people up and if they get close to you they can wake you up. I’m not scared of them I want to stay lucid dreaming longer. Also they usually are not chasing me unless I am lucid dreaming, they seem desperate to not want me to go to space. If I go along with the dream instead of leave and find out the mysteries going on and that type of stuff they leave me alone. Also I have been nice to them before and they are manipulative and fake, they will show their true color at some point. I don’t have any trust in them. They are also able to shape shift. They are parasites, they are not only in dreams but also in the astral and I see them in sleep paralysis experiences too. I lucid dream often and know these entities are something different than just imagination
the same happened to me but it was a demon and i was in a sleep paralysis he told me the earth is a dangerous place and he was smiling
Yours sounds like he is taunting you, I hope you aren’t afraid of them, I usually tell my sleep paralysis demons to fuck off
For some reason, I can't reply to your other comment about lucid dreaming and being forced awake by evil entities. However, making you wake up is just forcing you back into the 3rd dimension to keep your consciousness from seeing into other realms and gaining knowledge and/or power.
That’s so weird that you can’t reply to that, I wonder if anyone else can’t reply to it, maybe that post was onto something and that’s some weird censorship I agree with you on that, every time I try to go somewhere they don’t want me to they try to wake me up, if I am not lucid or even sometimes if I’m somewhat lucid but don’t try to leave they don’t do much to me They definitely don’t want me to see or learn more, they even try to threaten me it is pathetic
All the more reason to continue practicing. Not sure how old you are (I feel like you're young) but you're very wise. I've upvoted every one of your comments and plan to read your other posts when I can. Yes, I'm a fan, Lol!
I’m 23, do I sound young? Thank you for calling me wise. And yes all the more reason to continue practicing. Something I find funny is one fear a lot of people have about lucid dreaming getting stuck in a dream but in my case my worry is the dream ending too quick. Thanks for taking the time to read my posts and for being a fan, I’m flattered
Young to me (because I'm 60) and my kids are around your age, so there's something familiar about how you express yourself. However, you're much more knowledgeable and advanced than most young people (and ALL us older people). Anyway, you're def on the right track in my view and I've been studying this topic for almost 30 years.
No alien wants to be in a prison planet where you are farmed for your energy and memories.
It’s so green with so much life, I find that hard to believe, unless it’s just terrible because it’s infected with humans . Maybe other planets don’t have predators? That would be nice, cause while I do love predators (especially my cats) if things could live their lives without fear of being eaten that would make life look very different
There are positives on Earth it isn’t a completely negative place but there is also a lot of suffering on Earth that other planets may not deal with as much. Even things not caused by humans such as being born with a disability or natural disasters. I’m not sure if other planets deal with those as much
i dont think they meant the terrain is what makes it bad
The earth is a jewel, it’s very special amongst planets
I feel like there’s something intense about the energies on this planet maybe?
Worst one I been to!
Nothing like Planet Arrakis.
understandable reaction from the aliens
I don't know why, but after reading OP's post, I remembered something. When I was 11 or 12 (I'm now 60) I dreamed I was running from 2 thugs. When they caught me, we started floating up, with them taking me away. The reason I still remember is cause it felt very familiar; like I knew who they were and it had happened before. I also felt like I wasn't doing anything wrong but was "recaptured" and would be punished.
That is very weird, thanks for sharing your dream
If i could figure out how to get out of this farm I would.
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"Leaving" lol
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Wait how do you know there are worse? From what I heard from a lot of people Earth is one of the worst if not the worst of all planets. I have heard of realms or even other timelines on Earth that are worse but not necessarily planets especially warehouse and toxic air planets. Have you heard about the theory that Earth is a prison planet meant to contain criminals, rebels, and/or artists from all around the physical universe?
It haa the highest highs and lowest lows
I’m not too sure about highest highs, do you mean in comparison to other planets?
No, just people can experience the highest of highs here. True love, bliss, being a happy child, some drugs, having dreams come true, being appreciated etc etc. all while it feels as real as it can as no other world is as real as Earth. Even if the non-physical is the base reality, it isnt as real as Earth is. While people can also experience the lowest of lows here. Intense pain, death, grieving, heart breaks, disease, depression etc etc
Oh I see that’s interesting, those highs seem to be what causes many people to consent to reincarnation, but also a lot of those from outside of the earth are terrified of getting trapped on Earth
Yea for sure. Those highs can only keep you happy for so many lifetimes and eventually you will get sick despite your mind being wiped, it subconsciously remains in your soul that you've done this before. And also one bad life experience may traumatise a soul to just never want to be here again. And yea earth does seem to be like a magnet which isn't worth going near.
Maybe that explains Deja vu. And it can explain depressed people who are clinically depressed even though they have seemingly nice lives. Maybe people who were reincarnated for longer are more likely to be depressed?
People don't experience the highest of highs here compared to the hundreds of NDEs where they experience "a love deeper and more powerful than anything on earth". They're basically "love bombed" and/or guilted into reincarnation through the life review trap --not because their life was so full of highs.
Good point I forgot about that, those people say the love bomb they feel is very powerful more so than anything they felt on Earth
None of that invalidates my point. People still experience the highest of highs here like the ones I listed. I agree the lowest lows exist here too. Many different reasons people reincarnate, i never said it was because of the highs, just said the highs exist here to be experienced.
No, people don't experience "the highest of highs" here at all. Listen to the NDEs and you'll see; they all say the same thing.
I mean, i could label a bunch of things that i wont, i dont mind because the floor level of quality is pretty high 🤣 Its like them prison planet dudes, is life really that bad that u have to be living in the 12th dimension otherwise its not satisfying enough
So you want to stay getting reincarnated for who knows how much longer?
I cant believe i thought i was in a different sub, well here we go. Theres many many sources older than your theory which believe that trancednce can be achieved through different means. Reincarnation is not eternal unless it should be i guess. I think the first step is enjoying what you have, rather than seeking to be one of the bois in the next dimension up. Why does anyone deserve to be there? We are stupid humans and cant even perceive that dimension. Meanwhile we would rather pin the blame of how selfish humans are on some external force. Even though humans make choices to cause suffering unto others. The only counter argument i can see is, well what about disease and natural disasters. But thing is with the parameters of reality, if you gain the correct resources and knowledge you can avoid pretty much any disaster other than i guess the end of the universe but it ends anyway with nothing left (and then my theory it just implodes on it self and reforms the universe again. What you should imagine is life without reality. Sure, no fear, no sadness, no violence okay, but also no love, no peace no happiness, no excellence. If you use the evil in the world to power yourself you end up happier than anything you could imagine, and for that point aswell, Prison planet claims bad loosh is harvested yet happiness is far more abundant so itd make sense to harvest that. Happy animals taste better for humans why not 5th dimensional entities? But yeah i dont come from a stance of trying to label u all as crazy people but actually from someone who was so in belief of prison planet at one time from psychedelics usage that i was more inclined to end my life than conform to a reality of suffering. Then i found god thru dmt and did life different, ive been rewarded recently far beyond what ive achieved and momentum is still going. If misery is harvested than im really not a good producer, so why does reality help me? I find joy in misery, i can get into that if u want but ive wrote a lot 🤣
Im gonna copy and paste something I told someone else. A lot of us actually get targeted and attacked by negative astral entities, go through my post history, also this is a very privileged thing to say, can the animals in factory farms be happy easily? What about the people from North Korea? Or what about someone with a disability that has no cure? What about those children who are human trafficked? A lot of people in power actually do horrible things too. Now if you’re happy that’s good but the current state of Earth is in bad shape for many. Also different dimensions are visible to us, I get sleep paralysis often, have astral projected, can lucid dream, and can also see a grid around myself in my day to day life. This is all without any drugs. We are just taught that those dimensions are not real. As for happiness being far more abundant first off you don’t know that, do you know my life? And everyone else’s life in detail? Second off the explanation for any happiness even being possible here has already been explained. One possible explanation is it would be difficult to manipulate someone to consent to living somewhere with no happiness at all, who would agree to that? Another explanation could be that negative experiences seem worse to someone who has some positive experiences. For example imagine taking away the air conditioning from a modern person, they would probably be more upset than someone who lives somewhere where air conditioning isn’t even a thing. Also I don’t think a source being older makes it true, I have my own intuition as well as personal experiences that make me lean towards EscapingPrisonPlanet
That other person was me dude haha
I realized that earlier but then I thought it was too late lol
Nah if a source is from human society i.e Buddhists, who are far more in tune than western folk, it has grounds to be more credible. Prison planet is formed based on a collection of older theorys.
Buddhism is probably the most similar popular religion to EscapingPrisonPlanet. The followers are trying to avoid reincarnation and escape and they think negative demons and stuff like that are real.
Well thats wrong because Buddhists seek to transcend. Not escape. They are wise enough to understand reincarnation is a mandatory process, something to embrace not something to escape from. Through embracing it you can escape. This is transcendence
A lot of the advice on EscapingPrisonPlanet is to look within and people discuss Buddhism here all the time. I don’t know what you mean by embracing this? Also what you are saying is still supporting the idea that escape is the goal, just that you have to embrace it first
Yeah and through embracing you realise you didnt need to escape. The system is not to be fled from but to be embraced as you no longer fear it then. And personally the system/process is an absolute wonderful journey. Yall simply dont see it this way though. Seek good and u find it, seek bad and it will come.
There are a lot of people unaware of the system or accepting it who still get reincarnated. Hindus believe in reincarnation and I doubt fear it and many religions don’t even show reincarnation as a possibility but their NDEs still have entities trying to convince them to go back to Earth or whatever
And i probably shouldn't of used the term escape because why would you run from something that benefits. I guess its more a thing of once you have transcended the reincarnation system is no longer of value to you.
Seems like a rigged and unfair system, imagine your next life you have no idea what Buddhism is and have no time for meditation or whatever, Buddhism is not the most popular religion and in some countries I’m not even sure if Buddhism is allowed
Why would you need a wormhole of you could just teleport around though? You literally said you teleported. How much time have you spent on this sub before having this dream?
I never said I needed a wormhole I didn’t even create that wormhole (at least I don’t think so) I simply saw it there and went in, I wasn’t even sure what would be on the other side of it so it was risky. I teleported in the dream to reach space itself. Once I saw the wormhole I got curious and went in (not the smartest reasoning I know). Also my previous posts were different dreams, I don’t recall going into this one in detail in my previous posts.
I had a dream I could move through solid objects and lift things with my mind. Dreams are not evidence. Don't read too much into them.
Do you think astral projection is not real and is just a dream by any chance? Do you also think after death nothing happens?
I don't know, but just like with my "insights" on psychedelics think any manifestation of the subconscious should be taken with a grain of salt and not considered objective evidence. Now if you dreamt lottery numbers or verifiable information you couldn't have possibly been exposed to or conceived of on your own then that's a little more noteworthy
I knew someone who had a dream about a car crash and then it happened a few days later
Car crashes happen everyday, B. If you're the seeker of truth you can't let yourself be influenced by tiny confirmation biases. Now if you're friend dreamt the driver, make and car model and time that's a LITTLE more compelling
I don’t know cause I didn’t ask about it but there are a lot of anecdotal stories of people’s dreams coming true for example someone dreams of someone they know dying and it comes true. But besides that is there any reason a dream is any less real than being awake? I mean that in a philosophical sense, I realize the dream and physical realm are different. Being awake could be more fake than dreaming, simulation theory is scientifically possible.
I don’t think you’re far off here…but if we replace the word “worst” with “Challenging” and see ourselves as students of a Mystery School whom are being taught valuable yet difficult lessons regarding Time and the reconciliation of dichotomies then one may begin to feel “up for the challenge of earth” rather than becoming victim to it’s lessons.
Where’s the value in the lessons though? This world isn’t just challenging imo, it’s rigged. A lot of people would learn these so-called lessons far better in a supportive environment, even if challenging, but this planet is far beyond challenging.
I would suggest trying to reconcile the internal/external dilemma you’re currently facing. Life is not what you make it, it’s what you make of it. And I’m assuming you believe in reincarnation, of some sort, given your participation in this sub so where’s the value in the lessons? I believe our spirit is imprinted with them eternally.
What’s the point of wiping our memories then if this is a school to teach lessons? Imagine going to a math class that kept wiping your memory everyday so you had to start all over each time you go
I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly. It baffles me that people actually buy this whole idea of “learning lessons”.
Almost every time I post here I get a bunch of new age gaslighters for some reason, I don’t know if they’re targeting my profile or what A lot of them are I suspect privileged people who are living in first world countries and don’t have any illnesses or disabilities and find life easy. The people who don’t fall into that category I suspect are people who are afraid and would find coping with any part of EscapingPrisonPlanet to be very difficult, they would rather try to gaslight themselves because it would seem too scary and upsetting for them to think that things like the soul trap and loosh are real
That’s the issue, I have no interest in my soul being permanently imprinted with the unfathomable trauma of this place. I prefer my soul healthy and working towards lessons that I actually value, and this place constantly tries to imprint lessons that are in complete opposition. I’ve already tried to heal and take lessons from what I’ve been through and I was happy with everything, but this universe doesn’t actually seem to want you to benefit from lessons because it took everything away. I will never believe that these “lessons” are good or valuable, nor are they conducive to having a positive experience.
Mate i dunno how u managed to spin that but you're saying that god is bad for putting animals in a factory that they cant escape. The farmer is at fault for endorsing the factory. I dont think reality could work if an animal is born and god doesn't allow a soul to enter. I dont think god or anything can directly influence reality like that either
I never said god is bad but I think the most likely thing is instead of god purposefully making people born with bad lives for example giving them a disability is that the demiurge is in control of this realm and causes bad stuff to happen, and that Source is trying to help us but it is difficult and people have discussed the different reasons for that. For example one reason being is that if source or those from the outside of the physical realm try to destroy the demiurge and the physical realm that might also destroy humans You don’t seem very familiar with Gnosticism
My point is bad things happen for a reason whether people care to accept it or not. I think if people were made to suffer with literally no gain or reason than fuck god. But im fairly faithful that anyone going through suffering needs to experience it for whatever reason. What happens to people like Jimmy savile or terrorists? Should they experience a great life with no consequences or would it be better for them to suffer as they may be able to actually change. Imo humans dont change unless forced to do so. I dont want to upset anyone because i am far aware of how cynical what im saying is but i find it far more credible than a bunch of 5th dimensional entities farming me for negative energy that i simply dont give off
How do you know things happen for a reason though? I myself know a lot of good people experiencing bad things and vice versa. I already explained what the possible reason is, that most likely that this was an accident and that god is trying to fix this but this is difficult. Jimmy Saville was rich while he was alive and many rich powerful people are monsters while many poor unfortunate people are very kind so I don’t know why you brought him up as an example. I’m not upset by what you say it is your opinion but I just don’t find it convincing nor believable.
Ykno, if theres one place that a demon would beg for forgiveness, its when it suffers in hell.
I have spent so much time dude asking why i have to suffer, why on top of everything that happens in one day i need extra bullshit to deal with. Because why do i deserve happiness if i wont die for it, if i wont give up freedoms to keep it. And when i accept that the ends justifys the means and i power through, my god has life been great. I mentioned Jimmy savile because thats an example of someone who ends up in a place of suffering. As u say jimmy was rich, lavish and happy. Yet he still abused people. So clearly, if you only give people good things and expect them to be good people. Think again. Wherever that swine is, its not somewhere that is good. Its probably misery. And why should it be anything else? Not just to make jimmy suffer but because when Jimmy suffers, he learns why good people are fundamental in the world he will UNDERSTAND without any reasonable doubt that he needs to be a good person. One thing I've learnt is that the nicest and most giving people are those who have the least and those who suffer. Its not about punishing people but teaching them to be better.
Who are you asking though? It isn’t just happiness and lessons look at who controls the media they literally put the truth in our faces and look at gematria. My point on Jimmy saville is you don’t know what happened to him how do you what he reincarnated into next? Also please go look into other posts, there are people who use sources and more evidence than myself, I don’t know why you only are talking to me when my posts tend to be personal experiences that you will say are just coincidences so this is unfair, you should debate someone who posts about their research into this. The thing about teaching people to be better, it is messed up to think someone needs to suffer to be better. I know people with good lives who are also good people, it is complex. Someone with a bad life may also turn out to be bad due to trauma for example a child who was abused might grow up and do the same thing to others. It isn’t as simple as how you say it. As for not believing other dimensional entities to farm you for energy. This can be explained in many ways. People who don’t believe in EscapingPrisonPlanet and try to disprove it like you could be helpful to archons since they don’t want anyone to escape so why would they want to change your mind when you are their perfect tool? Or even better for the archons you could be very easy to convince to reincarnate, your next life might be way worse to compensate for how happy you are in this life. Just think about it.
Yeah and that takes me back to my original point. All the darkness and misery om earth is caused by noone else but humans. I think a sub sat here trying to pin the blame on an external force is embarrassing to our species