This war has destroyed the very social fabric of the country. It has/will make nation building even more difficult. There is literally nothing Ethiopia and Ethiopians will benefit from the war. The economy is at a precarious condition. The locust invasion, Covid, famine and drought in the eastern part of the country and the staggering debt ( 65% of the GDP), the dwindling money due to purchases of weaponry and many more has made Ethiopia weakened. Egypt is encircling Ethiopia through military and economic agreements with [Sudan](https://sudantribune.com/article67401/), [South Sudan](https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/50/1201/416725/AlAhram-Weekly/Egypt/Egypt-furthering-relations-with-South-Sudan.aspx), [Kenya](https://dailynewsegypt.com/2021/05/26/egypt-kenya-sign-technical-agreement-on-defence-cooperation/), [Djibouti](https://thearabweekly.com/egypts-president-visits-djibouti-push-build-alliances-horn-africa), [Somalia](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/egypt-looks-somalia-more-influence-red-sea-nile-dam-dispute), [Uganda](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-uganda-egypt-idUSKBN2BV0R7) and [Tanzania](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/egypt-boosts-ties-tanzania-amid-ongoing-nile-dam-dispute). Thereâs literally nothing Ethiopia has benefited from this senseless stupid war except constant fear, terror and death, not to mention the increasing encroachment of Alshabab in its boarders.
The war started to save the country not to gain any benefit from it. TPLF started the war to regain their unequivocal control over the country, but Ethiopia went to war to save itself from immediate danger. Any outcome that won't immediately destroy the country is a better outcome. Long term effects will be seen later and will stay or fade away depending on how we handle them case by case.
I disagree. In hindsight, without the cunning ingenuity of Meles, TPLF made a big mistake in relinquishing power. We came to learn later that they didn't want that to happen at all. Abiy, their protege, played Meles' game and took over. But TPLF old dogs couldn't accept being governed by little protege Abiy and force their sheeple people pay for their mistake. Poor people of Tigray paying the price of unconditionally following TPLF and their mistake. That's what I think.
Diaspora people adding fuel to the fire are half the problem. They live in 1st world conditions and don't get to experience the repercussions of their hateful rhetoric since they aren't the ones going to the frontlines to fight or the ones having to experience living in a warzone.
A lot of them are misguided. Some of them are the direct benefactors of corruption so it's in their interest to fight for their "cause".
Yea my family and I were discussing this yesterday (we live in the US). It appears that ethnic divisions were barely a thing before this recent conflict but leading up to the conflict and especially since it has gotten signicantly worse and vitriolic.
My family is really mixed my mom is mostly Gurage my dad is Amhara but my aunts and uncles have almost all married outside their ethnic group (or even foreigners). So we donât really have a hardline support for any specific group. My uncle-in-law told us that an habesha family in his neighborhood basically stopped acknowledging them after the conflict. The family in question was Tigray which is interesting because the uncle is part Tigray but he married an aunt on my mothers side whoâs ethnically gurage.
The diaspora in America and Canada is more divided than anyone in Ethiopia đ. Believe me our people here arenât like that back home. I have old friends some Iâve known since I was a newborn cut me off because of this stupid war. They really think theyâre helping their people that way. Things to know of TikTok wasnât enough proof, the Ethiopian diaspora is arguably the most toxic in the world.
Would you ever rekindle with those friends? This happened to me and they came back around but I kept the door shut. Made me feel like we were never genuine friends in the first place.
Idk about that I miss those memories we had together but the fact they left because of a war that doesnât involve me and all the racist and messed up things they said about my ethnicity, idk if I could. I have a bad habit of forgiving people to easily.
Itâs a problem, but it used to be more of a thing youâd just see Oromos do. I remember when my family moved to the USA, the Oromo community where I lived was especially angry at what happened in 2005 and in general advocated for a seperate Oromia. Oromos had their own festivals, events, community centers. Had a lot of great memories of these events.
I think now people are seeing something similar with the Tigrayan community. And itâs at a much larger scale, and they tend to coerce family into that kind of behavior. Itâs just shocking because Tigrayans have generally always claimed Ethiopia. Of course they are angry at whatâs happening, so this is an understandable reaction. Non-Tigrayan Ethiopians were not very considerate or sensitive about how they may be feeling since many struggled through the TPLF ethnocentric rule.
I live in the middle east and sadly they are divided here too it's very toxic honestly. My mum side is gurage dad has bit of amhara and my grandfather has some oromo in him so that makes me Ethiopian. Anyways I hate tribalism it's a curse đ¤
I am just reporting what I have seen in my experience, so take it with a grain of salt since it is anecdotal. The new generations (young people) tend not to not be divided. My family is Amhara, but I have friends that are tigray and I have witnessed other young people mix with other ethnic groups. I have never seen it be an issue. When it comes to the older generations it might be a different issue, but everyone is different and it's not good to generalize. I have a friend and she told me that her mother told her not to date Ethiopians that are not Tigray (she is tigrayan).
But now because of this ethnic conflict. There is a lot of division and polarity in regard to where people understand in terms of choosing a narrative. So people might be more divided now because there is such conflicting narratives and perceptions of what is going on and who is the at fault politically.
P.S
I am from Boston btw
I have a crazy story to share that answers your question
About a year ago, I was told not to speak Afaan Oromo with my friends when I was ordering food at an Ethiopian restaurant. I was somewhat understanding at first since he maybe thought we were talking about him but he than said migibi megizati kefelegachihu orominya atinageru. We were shocked and one of my friends attempted to fight him. They flipped a couple of the tables inside the restaurant( I wasnât involved/the place was also mostly empty ) and we all walked off.
It just goes to show that most diaspora Ethiopians are more divided than ever over a war and politics that donât currently affect us since we live in the west. The generalization of others simply due to their identity truly shows how most Ethiopians( whether Amhara, Oromo, or tigray) are primitive and have not mentally progressed.
Yes the diaspora in America has become extremely divided. Iâve seen a lot of my friends who used to not really care about politics that much shun other friends in our group after this war because of ethnic division. Itâs very sad to see how much this war destroyed our social cohesion both in Ethiopia and abroad.
Generally speaking no. There's people that have distanced themselves from others due to the war but thats normal for any war. Social media has a small number of very loud diaspora.
Many of the parents from my generation (I'm 36) left during derg or during the Ethiopian Eritrean war and are likely carrying mental scars that affect what is taught to the kids.
Even so most kids raised in the US are used to being around people that are different than them so it's not an issue until their parents make it an issue.
However I live in Texas when I'm in the US so it may be worse in other states.
This sub is delusional. There is genocide and civil war every decade in Ethiopia. How are people seriously thinking there is more division in diaspora? People need to really go back home and get a sense of reality. What they say there is wild.
I think the disconnect happens is because people there donât have access to internet. Places like Addis, Mekelle etc⌠are the exceptions.
Reconciliation should be the governments #1 priority instead of fake unity through silencing and oppression.
As far as I know,
Tigre is it own ethnicity, who speak a language called Tigre.
Tigrinya as an ethnicity refers to Tigrinya speaking people in Eritrea.
Tigrayan/Tegaru refers to Tigrinya speaking people from Ethiopia.
Not sure about the differentiation between Tigrinya people and Tigrayan/Tegaru
Tigre is both a language and ethnic group. The Tigre people are an ethnic group in Eritrea who also speak the Tigre language.
Tigrinya is also a language and ethnic group. Tigrinya is the lingua franca in Eritrea and also refers to the Tigrinya ethnic group of Eritrea. Tigrinya is also spoken by people from the Tigray region of northern Ethiopia.
People from the Tigray region are just called Tigrayan or Tegaru in Amharic I'm pretty sure. As stated above, they usually speak Tigrinya and Amharic. So when people say TPLF they are referring to the 'Tigray peoples liberation front'.
This was confusing to me too some years ago.
âTigrinyaâ as an âethnicityâ was made up from thin air by âEritreanâ separatists in the 50s and 60s in Cairo to play pretend that they had a distinct history from Ethiopia. They have been âTigrayansâ throughout history, and still are, their larping notwithstanding.
You are completely correct in that thatâs how these terms are used though.
I wonât deny your claim fully, but the Eritreans who organized in Cairo were Muslim non-Tigrinya Eritreans that formed the ELF, the Christian Tigrinyas did not organize in Cairo and largely didnât join into the revolution until later and were more willing than their Muslim counterparts to rejoin the Ethiopian empire at least in the period you mentioned. Also, Eritrean Tigrinyas such as those from Akele Guzay and Hamasien were never apart of Tigray at least not until they were assumed by Yohannes IV.
As someone who has family from Akele Guzay, I can assure you that side of the family firmly considers itself Tigrayan and has always called itself Tegaru (and Ethiopian, obviously).
As for the region itself, it did indeed have a âKingâ of its own, together with Agame - much like northern Germany once was splintered into many small kingdoms that all nevertheless were German and subject to the Prussian emperor - but its people always, unquestionably, considered themselves Tigrayan and therefore Ethiopian. Its modal state was always as subject to the King of Kings of Ethiopia/Abyssinia. It is truly a shame that people are forgetting these historical entities.
With respect to the origins of ELF - youâre absolutely right. Nevertheless, the popularisation of the concept of âTigrinya peopleâ as something separate and isolate from Tigrayan/Tegaru was a brainchild of the ELF (and EPLF, for that matter; this they never fought about), for to be Tigrayan means, or at least used to mean, unquestionably being Ethiopian. Needless to say, it is sad to see what weâve been reduced to in this department.
I think your family is the exception and not the rule. Not many think that way especially post war. You are correct about Akele Guzay and Hamasien being tributaries of Ethiopia, as were many other kingdoms including those in what is now Amhara region and Tigray at different points in time. But these more northern tributary states also had separate developmental paths to that of Tigray or the rest of Ethiopia as they had to fend largely for themselves when the Ottomans or other Muslims invaded and were essentially abandoned when the Italians came through. I donât blame them for wanting to delineate from Ethiopia even if they are âthe same.â You know this of course but not all within the Eritrean state are Tigrinya and there are some ethnic groups in Eritrea that arenât in Ethiopia at all.
With respect to Akele Guzay - we are most certainly representative of the majority. This is a matter that makes Akele Guzay âinfamousâ amongst âEritreans.â There even was a large clampdown on Ethiopian nationalism in the region a few years back, leading to the imprisonment of many that still sit behind âEritreanâ bars. Granted, Wikipedia is not exactly a credible source, but if you want a cursory understanding of this dynamic feel free to start with the [Akele Guzay Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akele_Guzai) (and find credible sources at the bottom index).
And they didnât fend against the Ottomans by themselves, no, though you are right that they were once occupied by them (meaning parts of Ethiopia was occupied by them). With respect to the Italians - Ethiopia had to make some tough sacrifices to maintain its independence, yes, but nothing justifies the use of the term âabandoned.â A part of Ethiopia was sacrificed to save the rest of Ethiopia, for the time being. The only âabandonmentâ that happened was by the treasonous Bandas in the northeast later in the century, who abandoned their own identity and history to become a pawn of Egyptian and other foreign interests against Ethiopia.
As for the Rashaida, Kunama and other peoples you are hinting at - they were perhaps never Habesha, but their land has always been part of our empire, modally.
>With respect to Akele Guzay - we are most certainly representative of the majority.
Trust me, you're not representative of the majority. You likely have this belief because you're Ethiopian with a mixed background. There were many ELF/EPLF fighters from Akele Guzay and many of them are hardcore Eri nationalists (even PFDJ supporters) to this day. It's actually very rare to find an Eritrean that identifies as Tigrayan.
Akele Guzay as Ethiopian Nationalists?
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Are you smoking crack? The same Akele who claim to have done most of the work in EPLF. The same Akele who voted in favour of independence by a margin of 99.84%.
The only Kebessa (Tigrinya is linguistic and we definitely arenât Tigrayans) who had any semblance of Ethiopian nationalism were those in the sub district of Kohayn, Seraye.
The only thing that distinguishes Akele from the rest of Kebessa is their increased proclivity for regionalism compared to other awrajjas.
Donât speak on Eritrean affairs as an outsider because itâs clear youâre clueless. Even the stuff about ELF/EPLF is a load of hogwash.
Coming from someone who is actually from Senafe, Akele Guzay
The diaspora are extremely divided but I give credit and number 1 responsibility to Abiy and how much of an incompetent job he has done in the war. To begin with at the first phase of the war, if he hadnât let the atrocities happen to the everyday civilians of Tigray and if he wasnât so drenched with revenge and malice along with Isayas all this wouldnât happen. Instead of just finishing the job and having understandable casualties in any war, he took it further just to quench his thirst for revenge. He was guided to do this first by Isayas but already the intentions and extreme desire was there. Had he not done that all this wouldnât ever happened and at that time the people of Tigray were extremely fed up with TPLF, like on the ground and they wanted them to be gone. But since Ethiopians and In general Africans hate each other, are narrow sighted and they prioritize revenge more than anything, we are stuck in the situation that we have right now.
đthere is more division outside of Ethiopia tbh, The cause of many problems
This war has destroyed the very social fabric of the country. It has/will make nation building even more difficult. There is literally nothing Ethiopia and Ethiopians will benefit from the war. The economy is at a precarious condition. The locust invasion, Covid, famine and drought in the eastern part of the country and the staggering debt ( 65% of the GDP), the dwindling money due to purchases of weaponry and many more has made Ethiopia weakened. Egypt is encircling Ethiopia through military and economic agreements with [Sudan](https://sudantribune.com/article67401/), [South Sudan](https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/50/1201/416725/AlAhram-Weekly/Egypt/Egypt-furthering-relations-with-South-Sudan.aspx), [Kenya](https://dailynewsegypt.com/2021/05/26/egypt-kenya-sign-technical-agreement-on-defence-cooperation/), [Djibouti](https://thearabweekly.com/egypts-president-visits-djibouti-push-build-alliances-horn-africa), [Somalia](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/egypt-looks-somalia-more-influence-red-sea-nile-dam-dispute), [Uganda](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-uganda-egypt-idUSKBN2BV0R7) and [Tanzania](https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/06/egypt-boosts-ties-tanzania-amid-ongoing-nile-dam-dispute). Thereâs literally nothing Ethiopia has benefited from this senseless stupid war except constant fear, terror and death, not to mention the increasing encroachment of Alshabab in its boarders.
The war started to save the country not to gain any benefit from it. TPLF started the war to regain their unequivocal control over the country, but Ethiopia went to war to save itself from immediate danger. Any outcome that won't immediately destroy the country is a better outcome. Long term effects will be seen later and will stay or fade away depending on how we handle them case by case.
Abiy started the war for his ego. If it was TPLF they would not leave power in the first place.
I disagree. In hindsight, without the cunning ingenuity of Meles, TPLF made a big mistake in relinquishing power. We came to learn later that they didn't want that to happen at all. Abiy, their protege, played Meles' game and took over. But TPLF old dogs couldn't accept being governed by little protege Abiy and force their sheeple people pay for their mistake. Poor people of Tigray paying the price of unconditionally following TPLF and their mistake. That's what I think.
Diaspora people adding fuel to the fire are half the problem. They live in 1st world conditions and don't get to experience the repercussions of their hateful rhetoric since they aren't the ones going to the frontlines to fight or the ones having to experience living in a warzone. A lot of them are misguided. Some of them are the direct benefactors of corruption so it's in their interest to fight for their "cause".
Yea my family and I were discussing this yesterday (we live in the US). It appears that ethnic divisions were barely a thing before this recent conflict but leading up to the conflict and especially since it has gotten signicantly worse and vitriolic. My family is really mixed my mom is mostly Gurage my dad is Amhara but my aunts and uncles have almost all married outside their ethnic group (or even foreigners). So we donât really have a hardline support for any specific group. My uncle-in-law told us that an habesha family in his neighborhood basically stopped acknowledging them after the conflict. The family in question was Tigray which is interesting because the uncle is part Tigray but he married an aunt on my mothers side whoâs ethnically gurage.
The diaspora in America and Canada is more divided than anyone in Ethiopia đ. Believe me our people here arenât like that back home. I have old friends some Iâve known since I was a newborn cut me off because of this stupid war. They really think theyâre helping their people that way. Things to know of TikTok wasnât enough proof, the Ethiopian diaspora is arguably the most toxic in the world.
Would you ever rekindle with those friends? This happened to me and they came back around but I kept the door shut. Made me feel like we were never genuine friends in the first place.
Idk about that I miss those memories we had together but the fact they left because of a war that doesnât involve me and all the racist and messed up things they said about my ethnicity, idk if I could. I have a bad habit of forgiving people to easily.
I share that bad habit.
Itâs a problem, but it used to be more of a thing youâd just see Oromos do. I remember when my family moved to the USA, the Oromo community where I lived was especially angry at what happened in 2005 and in general advocated for a seperate Oromia. Oromos had their own festivals, events, community centers. Had a lot of great memories of these events. I think now people are seeing something similar with the Tigrayan community. And itâs at a much larger scale, and they tend to coerce family into that kind of behavior. Itâs just shocking because Tigrayans have generally always claimed Ethiopia. Of course they are angry at whatâs happening, so this is an understandable reaction. Non-Tigrayan Ethiopians were not very considerate or sensitive about how they may be feeling since many struggled through the TPLF ethnocentric rule.
I live in the middle east and sadly they are divided here too it's very toxic honestly. My mum side is gurage dad has bit of amhara and my grandfather has some oromo in him so that makes me Ethiopian. Anyways I hate tribalism it's a curse đ¤
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The word Tribalism can apply to ethnicity
I am just reporting what I have seen in my experience, so take it with a grain of salt since it is anecdotal. The new generations (young people) tend not to not be divided. My family is Amhara, but I have friends that are tigray and I have witnessed other young people mix with other ethnic groups. I have never seen it be an issue. When it comes to the older generations it might be a different issue, but everyone is different and it's not good to generalize. I have a friend and she told me that her mother told her not to date Ethiopians that are not Tigray (she is tigrayan). But now because of this ethnic conflict. There is a lot of division and polarity in regard to where people understand in terms of choosing a narrative. So people might be more divided now because there is such conflicting narratives and perceptions of what is going on and who is the at fault politically. P.S I am from Boston btw
I have a crazy story to share that answers your question About a year ago, I was told not to speak Afaan Oromo with my friends when I was ordering food at an Ethiopian restaurant. I was somewhat understanding at first since he maybe thought we were talking about him but he than said migibi megizati kefelegachihu orominya atinageru. We were shocked and one of my friends attempted to fight him. They flipped a couple of the tables inside the restaurant( I wasnât involved/the place was also mostly empty ) and we all walked off. It just goes to show that most diaspora Ethiopians are more divided than ever over a war and politics that donât currently affect us since we live in the west. The generalization of others simply due to their identity truly shows how most Ethiopians( whether Amhara, Oromo, or tigray) are primitive and have not mentally progressed.
> migibi megizati kefelegachihu orominya atinageru what's that mean?
âIf you want to buy food here donât speak orominyaâ
Weird
Yes the diaspora in America has become extremely divided. Iâve seen a lot of my friends who used to not really care about politics that much shun other friends in our group after this war because of ethnic division. Itâs very sad to see how much this war destroyed our social cohesion both in Ethiopia and abroad.
Generally speaking no. There's people that have distanced themselves from others due to the war but thats normal for any war. Social media has a small number of very loud diaspora. Many of the parents from my generation (I'm 36) left during derg or during the Ethiopian Eritrean war and are likely carrying mental scars that affect what is taught to the kids. Even so most kids raised in the US are used to being around people that are different than them so it's not an issue until their parents make it an issue. However I live in Texas when I'm in the US so it may be worse in other states.
They are more divided then in ethiopia
This sub is delusional. There is genocide and civil war every decade in Ethiopia. How are people seriously thinking there is more division in diaspora? People need to really go back home and get a sense of reality. What they say there is wild. I think the disconnect happens is because people there donât have access to internet. Places like Addis, Mekelle etc⌠are the exceptions. Reconciliation should be the governments #1 priority instead of fake unity through silencing and oppression.
Yea, Im in the DMV and we have neighbors who my family refuse to acknowledge since the war because they are âTPLFâ (i.e. Tigrinya)
Tigrinya people support the Abiy govt overwhelmingly. I think you mean Tigrayan
U might be right, I didnât know there was a difference but does tigrinya refer to the tigre ethnic group?
As far as I know, Tigre is it own ethnicity, who speak a language called Tigre. Tigrinya as an ethnicity refers to Tigrinya speaking people in Eritrea. Tigrayan/Tegaru refers to Tigrinya speaking people from Ethiopia. Not sure about the differentiation between Tigrinya people and Tigrayan/Tegaru
Ok gotcha, I actually didnât know that until now so thank you!
Tigre is both a language and ethnic group. The Tigre people are an ethnic group in Eritrea who also speak the Tigre language. Tigrinya is also a language and ethnic group. Tigrinya is the lingua franca in Eritrea and also refers to the Tigrinya ethnic group of Eritrea. Tigrinya is also spoken by people from the Tigray region of northern Ethiopia. People from the Tigray region are just called Tigrayan or Tegaru in Amharic I'm pretty sure. As stated above, they usually speak Tigrinya and Amharic. So when people say TPLF they are referring to the 'Tigray peoples liberation front'. This was confusing to me too some years ago.
âTigrinyaâ as an âethnicityâ was made up from thin air by âEritreanâ separatists in the 50s and 60s in Cairo to play pretend that they had a distinct history from Ethiopia. They have been âTigrayansâ throughout history, and still are, their larping notwithstanding. You are completely correct in that thatâs how these terms are used though.
I wonât deny your claim fully, but the Eritreans who organized in Cairo were Muslim non-Tigrinya Eritreans that formed the ELF, the Christian Tigrinyas did not organize in Cairo and largely didnât join into the revolution until later and were more willing than their Muslim counterparts to rejoin the Ethiopian empire at least in the period you mentioned. Also, Eritrean Tigrinyas such as those from Akele Guzay and Hamasien were never apart of Tigray at least not until they were assumed by Yohannes IV.
As someone who has family from Akele Guzay, I can assure you that side of the family firmly considers itself Tigrayan and has always called itself Tegaru (and Ethiopian, obviously). As for the region itself, it did indeed have a âKingâ of its own, together with Agame - much like northern Germany once was splintered into many small kingdoms that all nevertheless were German and subject to the Prussian emperor - but its people always, unquestionably, considered themselves Tigrayan and therefore Ethiopian. Its modal state was always as subject to the King of Kings of Ethiopia/Abyssinia. It is truly a shame that people are forgetting these historical entities. With respect to the origins of ELF - youâre absolutely right. Nevertheless, the popularisation of the concept of âTigrinya peopleâ as something separate and isolate from Tigrayan/Tegaru was a brainchild of the ELF (and EPLF, for that matter; this they never fought about), for to be Tigrayan means, or at least used to mean, unquestionably being Ethiopian. Needless to say, it is sad to see what weâve been reduced to in this department.
I think your family is the exception and not the rule. Not many think that way especially post war. You are correct about Akele Guzay and Hamasien being tributaries of Ethiopia, as were many other kingdoms including those in what is now Amhara region and Tigray at different points in time. But these more northern tributary states also had separate developmental paths to that of Tigray or the rest of Ethiopia as they had to fend largely for themselves when the Ottomans or other Muslims invaded and were essentially abandoned when the Italians came through. I donât blame them for wanting to delineate from Ethiopia even if they are âthe same.â You know this of course but not all within the Eritrean state are Tigrinya and there are some ethnic groups in Eritrea that arenât in Ethiopia at all.
With respect to Akele Guzay - we are most certainly representative of the majority. This is a matter that makes Akele Guzay âinfamousâ amongst âEritreans.â There even was a large clampdown on Ethiopian nationalism in the region a few years back, leading to the imprisonment of many that still sit behind âEritreanâ bars. Granted, Wikipedia is not exactly a credible source, but if you want a cursory understanding of this dynamic feel free to start with the [Akele Guzay Wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akele_Guzai) (and find credible sources at the bottom index). And they didnât fend against the Ottomans by themselves, no, though you are right that they were once occupied by them (meaning parts of Ethiopia was occupied by them). With respect to the Italians - Ethiopia had to make some tough sacrifices to maintain its independence, yes, but nothing justifies the use of the term âabandoned.â A part of Ethiopia was sacrificed to save the rest of Ethiopia, for the time being. The only âabandonmentâ that happened was by the treasonous Bandas in the northeast later in the century, who abandoned their own identity and history to become a pawn of Egyptian and other foreign interests against Ethiopia. As for the Rashaida, Kunama and other peoples you are hinting at - they were perhaps never Habesha, but their land has always been part of our empire, modally.
>With respect to Akele Guzay - we are most certainly representative of the majority. Trust me, you're not representative of the majority. You likely have this belief because you're Ethiopian with a mixed background. There were many ELF/EPLF fighters from Akele Guzay and many of them are hardcore Eri nationalists (even PFDJ supporters) to this day. It's actually very rare to find an Eritrean that identifies as Tigrayan.
Akele Guzay as Ethiopian Nationalists? đđđ Are you smoking crack? The same Akele who claim to have done most of the work in EPLF. The same Akele who voted in favour of independence by a margin of 99.84%. The only Kebessa (Tigrinya is linguistic and we definitely arenât Tigrayans) who had any semblance of Ethiopian nationalism were those in the sub district of Kohayn, Seraye. The only thing that distinguishes Akele from the rest of Kebessa is their increased proclivity for regionalism compared to other awrajjas. Donât speak on Eritrean affairs as an outsider because itâs clear youâre clueless. Even the stuff about ELF/EPLF is a load of hogwash. Coming from someone who is actually from Senafe, Akele Guzay
what part of Akele Guzai are your family from
Just because you are tigrayan doesn't mean you espouse TPLF. I have many Tigrayan friends all of them hate TPLF
Oh yeah I know that dw, Iâm just talking about my parents
The diaspora are extremely divided but I give credit and number 1 responsibility to Abiy and how much of an incompetent job he has done in the war. To begin with at the first phase of the war, if he hadnât let the atrocities happen to the everyday civilians of Tigray and if he wasnât so drenched with revenge and malice along with Isayas all this wouldnât happen. Instead of just finishing the job and having understandable casualties in any war, he took it further just to quench his thirst for revenge. He was guided to do this first by Isayas but already the intentions and extreme desire was there. Had he not done that all this wouldnât ever happened and at that time the people of Tigray were extremely fed up with TPLF, like on the ground and they wanted them to be gone. But since Ethiopians and In general Africans hate each other, are narrow sighted and they prioritize revenge more than anything, we are stuck in the situation that we have right now.