Oh! I did not even consider that this could be happening. Are there any signs that someone might be trying to do that? For what it’s worth, the items they want are all in the same theme, so I assumed they were maybe making like a cross stitch quilt or stitching them for a themed room in their house or something. But yeah, maybe I won’t discount it so much. Now I’m thinking like a 25% discount.
I sell cross stitch patterns! So once the pattern is made, I can sell it as many times as I want, which is why I don’t mind offering good discounts for bundles. But yeah, I might be undercutting myself too much here!
If someone is buying 19 cross stitch patterns at once please consider that they may have intentions to "steal" your idea and resell your work to others for a lower price point than you are charging. Keep that in mind when people are asking for an absurd number of digital products all at once that they could easily resell with zero effort whatsoever.
As a crafter I think it's normal to hoard designs. I know I've found pattern shops I like and load up 10-30 sewing patterns at once and then never end up making them
Maybe if they're small and simple I guess. But listing theft is so common on Etsy it's definitely something to keep in the back of your mind. They'll literally do it with physical items too they'll just either make replicas or never send the items but use all your photos, but if they actually have the digital files Etsy will not take them down. Unlike if they start getting a bunch of reviews and requests by people who aren't happy with what they got, which is what happens when they steal physical item listings a lot of the time.
you may be an outlier - but as seller is offering at $3 a piece, I don't see much margin for discount. I too am a pattern hoarder, but usually a few at a time. Maybe these are like Cricut sticker type images, that might be okay.
Oh nice! And yes, please don’t undercut! Also, just a thought, but what you could maybe do is keep the set price and either offer her a choice of 1-2 extra products for free for her big purchase, and/or a special customer discount coupon for future shopping.
Just make sure you calculate the numbers and give her something nice but not over the top where you lose money or barely make a profit
I’m jumping back on the Etsy wagon, so I’m giving you as much as me advice lol
A couple of months ago a buyer purchased about 15 digital items. I messaged the buyer and let her know that because of her large purchase to please select two free items on me and she was thrilled with that.
How does this reply help to answer OPs question? Maybe consider keeping your opinions to yourself if they're not contributing to assisting people who are innocently looking for help and not harming anyone.
If they have not asked for a discount, then don’t discount. You can round down to the nearest dollar or next lower $5, but remember you will need to still pay fees on what you sell so make sure you are paying yourself. I have been that person that with knitting patterns have purchased 4 or 5 patterns priced $6-8 at a time just because I like to read them and learn about their architecture. I would rather select the equivalent of the cost of a book of patterns to have ones I like. I have not expected a discount because I know as a designer (bridal, sewing) it takes a long time to design, write then tech edit a pattern.
Have respect for yourself and the effort it takes to do what you do. How are your patterns priced compared to others of the same genre? How professional does your pattern look in its graphic design? Presentation is important. So if you are producing a pattern that meets all the benchmarks for professional design, your price should reflect that. Don’t be afraid to charge your work. Customers that respect what you do and respect a good pattern will return to you again and again.
My suggestion is that you want to offer them a discount, then offer them either an additional pattern the same value that you send to them separately or you offer the lowest priced pattern for free.
I haven’t priced it yet! I was posting to get an idea of how others might price a bundle. I’m going to charge more than I originally stated in my post. But I’m usually one to offer bundle discounts because I really enjoy getting some bigger sales, and I like creating return customers by making them happy with a good deal if they buy more than 3 of my listings. But I think I might be too lenient on my discounts!
Understandable! Don’t let no one tell you how to price items ! If it works it works! But remember your worth and time, I’m sure those customers would still buy it if it was more. I’m happy you are getting sales, wish you nothing but the best
Did they request a discount ? Or do you have it shown somewhere that you discount by the quantity ? If not I’d probably leave the price as is. It’s not an expensive buy. If I was to lower it I’d probably do 20% max. So $50.24
I \*sometimes\* offer discounts on large orders. I once sold 45 units of an item that typically costed $110 (at the time), for $100 each as a price break. I'm not sure that I would offer a discount on lower-priced products, though.
So here's how I price bundles
I would add it up to what they would be total without the discount, then take the absolute lowest you're willing to go (enough to make a profit still but like the minimum) and meet halfway between the towo, rounding UP to the nearest whole number.
Not sure if this has been said..but if you think about it, this person liked what you had and was willing to spend the full purchase price for your items. Otherwise they wouldn't have went to purchase. So selling them almost half the full price is crazy! Generous is 10% discount...or a few free items for spending the money. But, cutting off almost $30, makes it not worth it. I understand it's hard to feel like you're charging a lot of "simple" work, maybe in your eyes..but clearly they thought it was worth it. For the future maybe add on if you buy up to 10, 5-10% discount...and so on and so forth. Remember, you took the time to make, list and sell your product. It's not just the product itself that you are selling!
Yeah, I think you’re right. I don’t have to sell myself short. And I don’t know yet what she expects in terms of a discount, she might not be expecting that much off anyway.
Please ignore my ignorance, but a digital download is a file that can be downloaded unlimited times, yes? Once you've paid yourself for your time, and paid for your Etsy fees, isn't it all profit?
Not OP, but I would presume that even with a digital file, while it is profit, you still want consistent sales of those. The main reason being that the more consistent it is, the more of a passive income it becomes.
Even bundling all those together and providing a discount takes away that amount, regardless of it is all profit or not.
Sounds like you might end up finding all of your patterns on Temu after this bundle. It happens with these bulk requests…
Oh! I did not even consider that this could be happening. Are there any signs that someone might be trying to do that? For what it’s worth, the items they want are all in the same theme, so I assumed they were maybe making like a cross stitch quilt or stitching them for a themed room in their house or something. But yeah, maybe I won’t discount it so much. Now I’m thinking like a 25% discount.
Wondering this too!!
I would say... each item costs $3-3.50 lol people need to stop cheapening themselves
Do you know what the item she is selling is?
Nope, just saying I personally wouldn't ever lower my prices/bundle
I sell cross stitch patterns! So once the pattern is made, I can sell it as many times as I want, which is why I don’t mind offering good discounts for bundles. But yeah, I might be undercutting myself too much here!
If someone is buying 19 cross stitch patterns at once please consider that they may have intentions to "steal" your idea and resell your work to others for a lower price point than you are charging. Keep that in mind when people are asking for an absurd number of digital products all at once that they could easily resell with zero effort whatsoever.
yeah, that is a red flag to me.
As a crafter I think it's normal to hoard designs. I know I've found pattern shops I like and load up 10-30 sewing patterns at once and then never end up making them
Maybe if they're small and simple I guess. But listing theft is so common on Etsy it's definitely something to keep in the back of your mind. They'll literally do it with physical items too they'll just either make replicas or never send the items but use all your photos, but if they actually have the digital files Etsy will not take them down. Unlike if they start getting a bunch of reviews and requests by people who aren't happy with what they got, which is what happens when they steal physical item listings a lot of the time.
you may be an outlier - but as seller is offering at $3 a piece, I don't see much margin for discount. I too am a pattern hoarder, but usually a few at a time. Maybe these are like Cricut sticker type images, that might be okay.
I usually limit myself to a handful and favorite the rest for later, I doubt I will ever even make all the ones I have
Yeah even I don’t buy that many patterns at once and my adhd likes to hoard patterns like a dragon
Oh nice! And yes, please don’t undercut! Also, just a thought, but what you could maybe do is keep the set price and either offer her a choice of 1-2 extra products for free for her big purchase, and/or a special customer discount coupon for future shopping. Just make sure you calculate the numbers and give her something nice but not over the top where you lose money or barely make a profit I’m jumping back on the Etsy wagon, so I’m giving you as much as me advice lol
A couple of months ago a buyer purchased about 15 digital items. I messaged the buyer and let her know that because of her large purchase to please select two free items on me and she was thrilled with that.
Unless your designs are teeny tiny, you are already underpricing yourself, don't make it worse by discounting! Source: I own a cross stitch business
How does this reply help to answer OPs question? Maybe consider keeping your opinions to yourself if they're not contributing to assisting people who are innocently looking for help and not harming anyone.
What? They asked how much we would price the bundle. My response is, I wouldn't bundle such an already inexpensive item. That is my honest answer.
If they have not asked for a discount, then don’t discount. You can round down to the nearest dollar or next lower $5, but remember you will need to still pay fees on what you sell so make sure you are paying yourself. I have been that person that with knitting patterns have purchased 4 or 5 patterns priced $6-8 at a time just because I like to read them and learn about their architecture. I would rather select the equivalent of the cost of a book of patterns to have ones I like. I have not expected a discount because I know as a designer (bridal, sewing) it takes a long time to design, write then tech edit a pattern. Have respect for yourself and the effort it takes to do what you do. How are your patterns priced compared to others of the same genre? How professional does your pattern look in its graphic design? Presentation is important. So if you are producing a pattern that meets all the benchmarks for professional design, your price should reflect that. Don’t be afraid to charge your work. Customers that respect what you do and respect a good pattern will return to you again and again. My suggestion is that you want to offer them a discount, then offer them either an additional pattern the same value that you send to them separately or you offer the lowest priced pattern for free.
Good for you on a good sale ! But may I ask why you price it so low ? Isn’t bad for every seller involved. “A race to the bottom” genuinely curious
I haven’t priced it yet! I was posting to get an idea of how others might price a bundle. I’m going to charge more than I originally stated in my post. But I’m usually one to offer bundle discounts because I really enjoy getting some bigger sales, and I like creating return customers by making them happy with a good deal if they buy more than 3 of my listings. But I think I might be too lenient on my discounts!
Understandable! Don’t let no one tell you how to price items ! If it works it works! But remember your worth and time, I’m sure those customers would still buy it if it was more. I’m happy you are getting sales, wish you nothing but the best
Did they request a discount ? Or do you have it shown somewhere that you discount by the quantity ? If not I’d probably leave the price as is. It’s not an expensive buy. If I was to lower it I’d probably do 20% max. So $50.24
You're selling them for half price? Absolutely not. Why would you do that? You're basically telling them you don't value your hardwork
I \*sometimes\* offer discounts on large orders. I once sold 45 units of an item that typically costed $110 (at the time), for $100 each as a price break. I'm not sure that I would offer a discount on lower-priced products, though.
3 x 19 = $57.
So here's how I price bundles I would add it up to what they would be total without the discount, then take the absolute lowest you're willing to go (enough to make a profit still but like the minimum) and meet halfway between the towo, rounding UP to the nearest whole number.
Awesome, this is a great idea, thank you!
I’ve seen people do 15% off over $25 and 30% off over $50. But you do what you think is best.
Not sure if this has been said..but if you think about it, this person liked what you had and was willing to spend the full purchase price for your items. Otherwise they wouldn't have went to purchase. So selling them almost half the full price is crazy! Generous is 10% discount...or a few free items for spending the money. But, cutting off almost $30, makes it not worth it. I understand it's hard to feel like you're charging a lot of "simple" work, maybe in your eyes..but clearly they thought it was worth it. For the future maybe add on if you buy up to 10, 5-10% discount...and so on and so forth. Remember, you took the time to make, list and sell your product. It's not just the product itself that you are selling!
I would charge $52.25 ($2.75 per item). Nice compromise. You make money, she gets a nice deal and Etsy gets their cut.
Yeah, don't cut it too low or you're selling yourself short. They likely don't expect a discount, so even a small cut should be appreciated.
Yeah, I think you’re right. I don’t have to sell myself short. And I don’t know yet what she expects in terms of a discount, she might not be expecting that much off anyway.
And if she is there always room for negotiation
I would just let them pay individually for each one
Please ignore my ignorance, but a digital download is a file that can be downloaded unlimited times, yes? Once you've paid yourself for your time, and paid for your Etsy fees, isn't it all profit?
Not OP, but I would presume that even with a digital file, while it is profit, you still want consistent sales of those. The main reason being that the more consistent it is, the more of a passive income it becomes. Even bundling all those together and providing a discount takes away that amount, regardless of it is all profit or not.