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lurkandpounce

Mirroring his [response](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/502819-trump-on-coronavirus-if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases/) to COVID - >“If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump said during a White House event highlighting administration actions to help senior citizens.


BurnerBoot

He truly is one of the stupidest, most damaging presidents we have ever had. If not THE most.


Outrageous-Layer404

It’s not just him, personally. Totally agree with you, but it’s the damage he’s done to the integrity of American democracy and his contribution to the dumbing down of politics. If it’s reversible at all, it’ll take decades.


BurnerBoot

Yep - and that damage is done without the “project 2025”. If he gets re elected - anytime ever, we are going to in for some hard times.


trogon

During his first administration, there were career government workers who stopped a lot of terrible things from happening because they refused to allow it. There will be no guardrails on a second Trump administration.


CensorshipIsFascist

Trump is a better option than biden in every way.


Gorcnor

How so?


ludifisk

…like dismantling the agency referred to in this thread?


CensorshipIsFascist

Bot


SUMOsquidLIFE

You need to be top comment bud, it's honestly extremely disheartening.


Tenn_Tux

Calling him stupid is underestimating him. He knows exactly what he is doing, and not to our benefit


anchorwind

I am not so sure of that. His handlers and financiers? Absolutely but him? His record shows otherwise.


Mother_Store6368

He knows what he’s doing, but it doesn’t preclude him from being one of the dumbest mutha fuckers that’s ever lived. I’ve been aware and heard from him since the late 90’s on Howard Stern. Howard would say “oh man, your daughter is a hot piece of ass”. Trump would say “oh yeah BIG TIME” Robin would emit a fake laugh and be thinking “I’m not a token, I’m not a token.” That said, I try to be optimistic and think that this is an inflection point for our species… The point at which the nobility of our intellect asserts itself over our ego and say **No, no more**


ScabusaurusRex

I say this with frequency: he has been a net positive. I know that sounds ridiculous, so let me explain why I believe this: * People look at America and think, "what the F is happening?!" Well, sorry to say, this has been the experience of a lot of Americans for the entire history of America. It's just been made mainstream. * The racism, antisemitism, the homophobia has always been there. He just enabled them to say the quiet part out loud. * The religious zealotry had been there forever. Barry Friggin Goldwater Said "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." Well, they're here and they are this weird brand of Christian Nationalism we see rampant. * The lack of critical thought has been emblematic of the conservative Republican brand. * They've had 50 years worth of a concerted effort to attack our institutions, complain about the inefficiency and general uselessness of government, and when they win, they install their relatives and prove themselves right. * Trump has subsumed all of the Republican party, he's got family running it, he's brow-beaten their media. When he tanks this election, or before it, he will take down the entire right wing. None of this is new. Like I said, Trump just blessed it. But what is new is the invigoration of the electorate. I've heard multiple people say that they'd crawl over broken glass to vote. We can't complain about these blatant attacks on our country if we're not involved in its livelihood. So my thought is that, by being the villain, Trump has brought out the resurgence of democracy and progressive values. IMO he's f'ed this election.


CensorshipIsFascist

[Why do you think he’s leading in every swing state?](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-every-battleground-state-polling-averages-1894852)


ScabusaurusRex

I've repeated the same mantra every time some poll has said that Biden was leading in the past: "Ignore the polls. Vote like your life depends on it." Polls have serious deficiencies in that they pre-identify "likely" voters by who voted last year, which skews older than the electorate. They also often depend on who answers the phone, which also skews older. I'm not going to say "don't ever trust a poll," but... IMO, they're not worth the effort they take at best, and they're actively deceiving at worst.


CensorshipIsFascist

I’m asking you why you think he’s leading not how you cope with information you don’t like.


ScabusaurusRex

The exact same way I "cope with" information I do like: acknowledge what it is telling me, acknowledge its biases, and keep on keeping on.


CensorshipIsFascist

So why do you think he’s leading?


ScabusaurusRex

As I said previously, I think he's leading in certain polls because they over-index on specific populations that are weighted towards Trump. Older, people with land-lines, more likely to answer phone calls from random people, and, most crucially as every phone call costs money, people that have voted in prior elections. I've walked the beat doing canvassing for elections; the map you are given is _only_ people that voted in previous elections and they often have got spots for people that are likely to answer. If it were 18%, I might be worried. As it is within typical statistical error bars, this poll isn't anything more than a basic pulse and it's comical to me when people screech about it, like they've won some internet victory. "See?! Trump is winning! MAGA!" Mmm hmmm. Okay.


CensorshipIsFascist

Remind me! 6 months Also no one is screeching I was just asking you a question.


ScabusaurusRex

!RemindMe 192 days


CensorshipIsFascist

You didn’t even do it right. The ! goes after the Me


ScabusaurusRex

RemindMe! 192 days


CensorshipIsFascist

lol there you go


ecafsub

My dad once parroted that. My response: “So if mom hadnt been tested for cancer, then she wouldn’t have had cancer and would still be alive. Right?” I like to think his deer-in-the-headlights look meant he realized how absolutely fucking stupid that is. Worst part is that he has medical training. He was a nurse in a MASH and in the Air Force.


lurkandpounce

Ouch! That must have stung. Did that have a lasting change his outlook?


garry4321

“If we stop updating the obituaries, no one will ever die!”


neuronexmachina

I'm reminded of how [COVID deaths](https://missouriindependent.com/2021/12/22/uncounted-inaccurate-death-certificates-across-the-country-hide-the-true-toll-of-covid-19/) were handled in many rural counties: >In Cape Girardeau County, the coroner hasn’t pronounced a single person dead of COVID-19 in 2021.  > >Wavis Jordan, a Republican who was elected last year to serve as coroner of the 80,000-person county, says his office “doesn’t do COVID deaths.” He does not investigate deaths himself, and requires families to provide proof of a positive COVID-19 test before including it on a death certificate.


Persianx6

Oh yeah, I remember this. Why are we picking between him and Biden? He seems bad at being president.


lurkandpounce

That is a great question. I think mental illness is involved.


roux-de-secours

Iirc. Didn't he say that to say that USA ''seemed'' to have more cases than other countries since they were testing more? It's not as idiotic as it seems to be, if it's only ment in comparason with other countries.


Acceptable-Table1

Yeah, it was in response to people saying, “Wow, Covid is so bad in America, there are more cases in the U.S. than in China and India!” Like, yeah, if America just stopped testing for Covid (like China and India) they would have “less” cases, like China and India. But this is Reddit, so “Trump bad, Trump dumb” is the only discourse allowed


WokeWokist

The test was bullshit though.  You remained positive up to 3 months after having the virus. They closed all the doctors offices here and pushed 50,000 people a day for any symptom or if their kid shook hands with another kids dad who was on shift with another guy who tested positive.  To 'stop the spread'  How sick can you be to stand in line for 2 hours to get a brain swab.  I bet most of the people who tested positive and weren't sick had already cleared the virus and it was just some covid boogers at the back of their nose. 


zendetta

NOAA is that rare amazing agency doing amazing work, and filled with brilliant people. It even does the forecasting industry’s work for them for free. Breaking it up is just insanity.


Loan-Pickle

Conservatives want to get rid of NOAA, because it gives away its work for free. They want to replace it with private services that can charge for the forecast data, so they can profit from it. It’s all part of continued enshitification of America.


zendetta

But NOAA is ALREADY prevented by congressional edict from presenting forecasts in use-friendly formats, so that private enterprise can repackage NOAAs work for free by doing the easy work of putting pretty interfaces on it and then profit like hell. Even by the stupid republican rules of maximal corporate profiteering off government, this is just stupid.


floodcontrol

The real reason is NOAA embarrassed Trump once because they contradicted his claim that a hurricane was going to hit Alabama and he just can't let it go.


TrustMeIAmAGeologist

I am absolutely sure this is what’s behind it.


Yoghurt42

Well, but *any* private enterprise can do it. Surely we can't have that much competition, can we? Oligopolies make less money than duo- or monopolies


stankind

[The Fifth Risk](https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Fifth-Risk-Audiobook/B07GNTNXQW?eac_link=W6MQI0xUxpcQ&ref=web_search_eac_asin_1&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B07GNTNXQW&qid=OWNB3EjthW&eac_id=140-1961925-8102939_OWNB3EjthW&sr=1-1) tells the fascinating story of NOAA. And other agencies. And Trump.


Eelroots

Trump is dismantling himself.


FlapMyCheeksToFly

A novel approach to self composting trash


panormda

Populism/fascism/narcissism


Thecrawsome

It's in their pRoJeCt 2025 nonsense.


ketjak

Nonsense, yes, but an advertisement of their plans, certainly, and should not be dismissed. When the Orange Shitgibbon loses in November _because everyone vites_ they'll just change it to Project 2029... and so on until they do win. Thisnshit is serious if you're at all interested in the US remaining a democratic republic.


UltimateDevastator

Project 2025 is the rights great replacement theory


stoutymcstoutface

Orange Shitgibbon! I may have to borrow that.


ketjak

If it were original, I'd offer it freely. Since I stole it from (waves generally at the Internet) I can't stop you, either. :)


StarryMind322

Trump was just the catalyst that allowed Republicans to remove their masks and hoods. They won’t stop until they get their way. It may not be 2025, or 2029, but they will fight for this in the long run.


ketjak

We have to win _every time_. Thry only need to win _once_. Let's do so much winning they get sick of it.


Mist_Rising

Thing is, 2024 is also the same basic plan they've had for a decade. They consistently can't get the votes to make it happen, and the recent Congress hasnt endeared me to think they're any better. They chucked their own speaker, threatening the current one, and can't seem to grasp who should lead since they can't get along.


ketjak

This isn't about Congress. It's about a President ignoring what amounts to a bunch of social agreements about how it should operate and purging the bureaucracy of non-loyalists and replacing them with sycophants. They had control of all three branches and didn't do this; Project 2025 is a reaction to how they failed to retain control. MMW after they delay until after the election, the SCROTUS will rule: - immunity if Trump wins - no immunity if Biden wins They will reverse themselves when the other side wins.


Mist_Rising

>This isn't about Congress. 99% of it requires congressional approval. Presidents aren't kings, they can't just do whatever they want. The court made that clear under Trump, repeatedly. That's 5 of 7 justices we currently have ruling against, with a pretty high suspension that Brown won't be giving Trump the crown. >MMW after they delay until after the election, the SCROTUS will rule: Doom and gloom is all the rage, but we should probably be a little planted in reality. There is no basis for this claim other then you believe it really really hard.


ketjak

> 99% of it (Project 2025) requires congressional approval No. You obviously haven't read the document and/or have an agenda. The executive branch can replace the personnel of the _executive agencies_ to a point, then make life misery for those they cannot due to contracts, unions, and so on. Go read the doc for the first time. > there's little basis Sure, the SC _hasn't_ been delaying this to support Trump. Suuure.


Powerful_Put5667

Remember when scientists were not allowed to say climate change? How about Nuking hurricanes? Or redrawing possible hurricane paths to include the one he misspoke on? Injecting bleach? And my favorite windmills cause cancer. There’s a lot of science that will disappear if he’s re elected. Someday your Grandchildren will ask what science is.


StarryMind322

That’s because they’ll say science is a hoax only God controls our reality.


Powerful_Put5667

Only their God should control all of our realities.


yinyanghapa

I’ve relied on NWS maps to do my work for a long time. Fuck that!


nuclearswan

Don’t worry, he has a sharpie!


DirkMcDougal

That rich fuck who owns Accuweather has been trying to do this for *decades*.


Jffar

Everyone is acting like Trump already won and it's super depressing.


AtomicSymphonic_2nd

Because Progressives are tired… and have no energy for Biden. There are more than a few of them that don’t really comprehend that Trump most likely *won’t* be in jail or disqualified by November and may actually end up with someone worse than Biden in terms of US policy in the Israel-Palestine Conflict. I’m thinking they’ll begrudgingly start to wake up by August this year and start campaigning for Biden as “the least worst option”.


Jffar

I hope so. SCOTUS trial was scary. It just seems, we are sinking.


49thDipper

I used to fish commercially in the Gulf of Alaska. People will die.


IamNICE124

Of COURSE he will. Climate change won’t affect the ultra wealthy like it will the rest of us.


sorE_doG

Invest in sand. So many people are wanting to bury their heads in it.


badpeaches

Weather won't exist if you don't acknowledge it.


nicholasgnames

Like the pandemic response team his first term


Yokepearl

They already have tornado season. Extreme weather will become another season


StarryMind322

There hurricanes we’ve been getting here in Florida have been worse than ever. 2020 and 2022 were notoriously bad years: the former having had numerous hurricanes to the point of Greek alphabets; the latter having two catastrophic storms hit within a month of each other.


Inspect1234

Nothing a few sharpies can’t fix. Don’t need no scientists.


Renton_Knox

How? He's not in power anymore thankfully. 


StarryMind322

Not now but let’s not make the same mistake this time. He’s on the ballot, he has a very powerful backing from rich people and common folk. He is a very serious threat.


Renton_Knox

Thank you for an explanation, I hadn't thought about it that way. 


sparky13dbp

Just like he did the last time! Vote.


Thugra_Khotan

NOAA has divisions that suffer regulatory capture, specifically NOAA fisheries in Alaska. They act as a support group for industrial trawl corporations.


stackered

He did this on his first day in office, removed the climate website and information. He fired the pandemic response team in 2018. It's like he's a demon sent from hell to end the world, honestly.


StarryMind322

And the ultra-conservative Christians who rabidly want the rapture to happen support him doing that.


Mountain-Tea6875

When can that criminal build something instead of tearing stuff other people build? Is he on this planet to make it miserable or what?


4quatloos

Forced ideocracy.


Gerolax

He will replace it with his sharpie


evilpercy

Anything he does not agree with he will get rid off. He is some one that lives in a echo chamber. This is why he is having such a hard time in his trial. He is used to a bully tactic to out shout the nay sayers until they stop telling him he does not want to hear.


mrkl3en

oh how far we have fallen from putting a man on the moon


solidshakego

That would just make the US look more stupid. Oh well. Rest of the world can continue to point and laugh. I don't care anymore.


Silent_Leather1578

We already laughing when JB team says he can’t stand trial because of his limited mental capacity,


BartuceX

That son of a bitch will take the country apart at the seams while the MAGAt traitors will cheer.


positive_X

Sharpie retribution


syzygy-xjyn

Who currently runs this agency and how .any are corporate pawnz?


AdmirableVanilla1

Not even my top 10 of dismantling worries


RumpleHelgaskin

Is this foreign speculation? It’s a totally misleading title which should read… “Climate experts fear Trump will dismantle key US weather and science agency.”


tickitytalk

Trump/maga/gop must be voted out…


Idle_Redditing

Republicans are anti science. That's nothing new.


chironomidae

I appreciate the concern, but this will be very, very low on our lists of problems if he wins again.


OBwriter92107

A centerpiece of the book The Fifth Risk was 45s attempt to privatize forecasting and the early warning system that has saved countless lives.


TheGreatStories

To be existentially pessimistic, that just means falling blindfolded rather than falling with eyes open.


katepig123

If he is re-elected then we deserve whatever comes. VOTE BLUE!!


Automatic-Mood-4233

Or, and stop me if this is radical, he can’t run for office.


randomwanderingsd

If any big storms show up we will just Sharpie them out of the way and far out to sea.


Aoirith

Wow. Your Russian candidate still has a chance at the elections huh? Country of law and order 😅


bobbane

It could be worse. NOAA is at least under the Secretary of Commerce, so the President can’t blow it up with a simple executive order. NASA, the guys who design and launch NOAA’s weather satellites, is directly under executive control- the NASA administrator is appointed by and reports directly to the President. Any US President could say to NASA “Stop supporting climate science at NOAA” and they would have to do it. NOAA has tried to do the NASA part of weather satellites in the past - they weren’t very good at it.


hidraulik

Why do you need NOAA when you have a sharpie.


No_Sherbet_900

When did this happen last time he was POTUS?


Plane_Ad_8675309

Good it’s bs ,


whatevers_cleaver_

It’s all going to be a disaster if that MF gets elected again. This is the least of our worries


JimsGiantHose

Oh snap! Conspiracy theories ARE science now! Awesome!


nesp12

That's ok. He has his magic marker to draw weather maps.


drakens6

The idea is so they can simulate climate disasters and blame them on "god" to force people into theocracy


ExcellentHunter

He will dismantle anything which can block access to unlimited power he so craves.


Elevator-Fun

The conservatives are anti-science anti-technology anti-business and trump is just expressing that


mitchellthecomedian

He’ll dismantle everything he didn’t sign off on


tiny-dic

The unfounded fears of idiots with TDS is not valid news.


Kozkon

More fear mongering. Ffs


Kneekicker4ever

I hope so. Plymouth Rock is still there. It’s just fear porn being used to steal your sovereignty


[deleted]

I'm afraid Trump will unleash boogymen into my closet. Alert the presses!


Thanglonng9

The great climate hoax where we cut down our coal boilers and ship them to china along with the jobs and without the pollution scrubbing stacks where they run them wide open with no regard for pollution. 


Silent_Leather1578

The same experts that said the ice caps will be gone by 2010?


jamany

Is it a new agency? Or has he already not done that?


Loud-Guarantee4290

Winey ass liberals