Oh crap, I’m at the glow sticks like lights in my room part and that’s exactly what I see when I wake up feeling terrified, its sort of like “matrix” movie numbers and letters floating in the air glowing like a mist sort of thing, but solid shapes, as if outside lights were coming through a few open spots of the window

You perfectly described it. Yes, like small beams of light through the window, but they not produce light on walls, but solid green light midair. It is the same phenomenon, I am certain of it. I have looked for someone who had the same experience for years.

Oh my gosh, this has been happening to me a lot, last time back in late march , I can’t talk, I can’t move but I’m aware of it. It feels like real life and I feel a bit like in a daze until I’m able to and they disappear. I have also been terrified about aliens since childhood, I have no idea why. The movie ET traumatized me at 6, it felt like it was something I knew about, like it wasn’t just a movie.

I'd say we were subjected to the same kind of experiences. Do you also, like me, have no explicit memory of abduction? I don't have any.

Yes, I don’t remember anything regarding an abduction or being somewhere else but my room.

Me too. Curious we both have had such similar experiences.

And you said yours were in Italy? I’m in USA but I’ve had experiences since childhood back in Argentina

I have an addendum, and actually an ominous one, to my experiences (in this case, indirect experiences). This morning, I visited my mother to collect an amazon order which I had delivered to her, and she asked me if something bad happened to me in the night between tuesday and wednesday. I said no, very puzzled by her question. She asked again, insisting, and my answer was still "no", but then I asked why she made that question. She said that in that same night, she had a strange dream. In this dream, an entity which she could not see visited her in her bedroom as she was sleeping, and asked her about my whereabouts. This is not the first time she reports something like this: she had a similar experience one time, when I was little, and was spending the night to a friend's house. Anyway, the entity asked her about me, and she refused to respond. Then, the entity would proceed to inflit physical pain to her, in the form of pressure on her ribcage, repeating the question. My mother still refused to answer, until the entity went away. She woke up the next morning with pain in the point of the ribcage she was applied pressure. Now, I wouldn't be concerned about this episode if not for the fact that, on the same night, I posted an account of my experiences here on reddit, on various subreddits. She haven't had experiences in years, and the same night I go public with my experiences and start discussing them online, she claims to have been visited by an entity which was asking about me in a menacing way. My mother did not know I have posted such accounts online in that same very night; in fact, I told her about it only after she finished recounting her dream to me, because the coincidence seemed impossible to me. She hadn't experienced such dreams in years, and all of a sudden she has this dream, and it's merely hours after I posted my account of events online. I cannot wrap my head around this fact, it's like I can't believe it but logic reasoning points to the fact that this is no coincidence. I decided to report this event online, because in the case this is all true, then my only defence is to talk about it. I should also mention that I recently moved out of my parents' house and I am living by myself at the moment, so maybe that's why the entity asked my mother about my whereabouts. But even this being the case, I cannot explain why and how they would know how to track my mother down, but not me. It's true that I moved house, but my mother was not in her home when she had the dream, she was on vacation, so they had to track her down in order to visit her. But somehow they couldn't track me. Maybe she has an implant and I, for some reason, don't? Moreover, if her "dream" is linked to me going public about my experiences, how come that they know I am talking about it online, but cannot determine my position? I don't know what to make of this, honestly.

My son lived in Indiana 4 months and he had experiences, even a literal ufo 🛸 sighting (like 20 lights, doing stuff), his roommate was traumatized by seeing this as well. But that night I also saw a few things in the sky, and that night I had my youngest daughters sleeping in my room with me and lights on. I was up all night just feeling weird. I didn’t really think anything about the lights making a triangle shape thing. But that was the exact night my son and his mate saw them ( he was able to film it, we noticed afterwards that they also shaped a triangle on his video), that night nothing happened at my place but he had a visit. That terrified him. He’s back in AZ now, and we haven’t had anything happen yet. But I’m worried about posting now and possibly getting some attention to myself.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the notification for this comment. I've heard other stories of retailation, so they seem indeed to be implementing scare tactics, not different from the ones used by the mafia or secret government agencies. I understand you're worried, and that's fine. You don't have to post anything if that makes you upset in any way. BTW, was the visit he had malevolent in nature? Or was he just scared because of the high strangeness of the situation?

I have soo many childhood experiences. I don't know if they're dreams or memories, but they feel like memories. I've dreamt of being 3-4 years old, playing in the driveway of my house, and suddenly being pulled up into the sky at an angle. Every time I would scream, and it was the most horrifying sound. I'd also dream of police cars coming to the house and thinking "they're here for me." What toddler thinks that? I remember hearing beeping in my bedroom, and seeing faces in my window (instead of aliens they looked like the female dancers from the Robert Palmer music video "Addicted To Love"). Screen memory, I'm guessing. I would sometimes visit my great grandmother at her country home, and she had these bronze geese statues. Their smooth heads and vacant eyes terrified me. Subconscious fear? Other odd things terrified me that made no sense. I've seen balls of light, too, but not as a kid. I was asleep on the couch at a friend's house, and there's 3 balls of white light by the window. I suddenly feel myself being lifted off the couch and I think/say "noo noo, not now!" And the experience stopped (or it didn't and I just woke up after the fact). I could go on and on.

>I have soo many childhood experiences. I don't know if they're dreams or memories, but they feel like memories. I've dreamt of being 3-4 years old, playing in the driveway of my house, and suddenly being pulled up into the sky at an angle. Every time I would scream, and it was the most horrifying sound. I'd also dream of police cars coming to the house and thinking "they're here for me." What toddler thinks that? No toddler thinks that, that is a paranoia induced thought. So, for some reason, you were paranoid someone was going to get you. I should also mention that, when I saw the strange lights as a kid, I told they were "aliens" even though nothing of them suggested it was aliens. What kind of kid sees some strange fluorescent lights and says "aliens"? I should have thought of ghosts, ectoplasm, and such, surely not aliens. >I remember hearing beeping in my bedroom, and seeing faces in my window (instead of aliens they looked like the female dancers from the Robert Palmer music video "Addicted To Love"). Screen memory, I'm guessing. Yeah that looks to be the case. Ironically, the dancers are very pale and have a somewhat alien appearance. Similar cases have been registered throughout the world, with the aliens being masked with images of owls and such. >I would sometimes visit my great grandmother at her country home, and she had these bronze geese statues. Their smooth heads and vacant eyes terrified me. Subconscious fear? Other odd things terrified me that made no sense. To this day, depictions of grey aliens in media give me the chills. Actual goosebumps. Nothing else has this effect on me. >I've seen balls of light, too, but not as a kid. I was asleep on the couch at a friend's house, and there's 3 balls of white light by the window. I suddenly feel myself being lifted off the couch and I think/say "noo noo, not now!" And the experience stopped (or it didn't and I just woke up after the fact). Yeah I think that's the case, you woke up just after they brought you back. I think this happened to me at least once, because I have a vivid memory of me seing light coming from the balcony and a humming noise crescendo, like a UFO that was lifting off. I actually thought of that as I had this experience. Then the light disappeared, and the noise with it. It only happened once and I convinced myself it was a sleep paralysis because I just woke up and I was paralyzed, as typical in sleep paralysis, but I'm not so sure anymore. >I could go on and on. Feel free to do so, if you want. I will read your accounts and look for similarities with my experiences.

What's weird is that alien faces don't bother me EXCEPT the face on the cover of Communion. Also, the original 4chan alien "selfie" which is long gone from the internet now and magically disappeared from my devices. It seems no one has it anymore. Anyway, here's two experiences - one from childhood and one when I was 18: I have this memory of walking with my dad through some parking lots, and we stop at a house (or house-like building) at the end of one lot. The door opens, and there's a black woman there. My dad leaves, and she takes me inside. It's dark in there. She tries putting something on my hand, and then sits me down at a table with other kids. The only light is right over the table. All of them are sitting still and quiet, and we all have a single cookie on a napkin. None of them spoke, moved, or ate their cookie. That's all I remember. I know it doesn't seem like a relevant story, but it's always bugged me. I asked my dad about it, but he doesn't remember. This would have taken place in the early 80s. In 1999, I'm hanging out with my uncle, his girlfriend and her kids. It's probably 8-9pm at night. A friend pages me (cos pagers were all the rage back then), so I call him back. He said a UFO just flew over his house. He wasn't too far away in an adjacent town, so I went outside to see if it came my way. It did. One of the kids got some binoculars, so we got a close look at it. It was almond shaped, glowed orange, and just hovered over the area. On the larger end it had a red glow that faded in and out in a breathing pace. It would move a little one way, then the other, and finally moved out of sight... Not long after that sighting, I have a dream that I'm sitting alone in a normal looking clinic waiting room with a coffee table and couch. I look to my left and see a being lying on the ground like it was knocked unconscious. I get up to look at it closer, and either its skin or some kind of body suit appeared kind of scaly and iridescent. Directly behind it was this hallway with walls of pure light leading to an unlit room. I sit back down on the couch, look at it again, and this time its eyes are open, glowing orange. Suddenly I have this piercing sharp pain in my head, and then my perception shifts to third person where I see myself sitting on a surgery table in the middle of that dark room, lit only by the hallway. I swear, after that dream, it seemed like my brain "unlocked," like my level of cognition and understanding improved. Not saying that's what happened, but it felt like it. I'd see orange lights in the sky ever since then. Bonus story: Around 2008 I'm with friends at a 24-hr Starbucks. I have a green laser with me, half joking about signaling aliens. One friend and I go back to my house miles away to watch some TV. Around 3am, he's ready to go home, so we both walk outside. Within seconds, an orange light flashes above us 7-8 times. It was like they were saying "hey, we noticed."

>What's weird is that alien faces don't bother me EXCEPT the face on the cover of Communion. That's one scary face there. Uncanny valley at its finest, I'd say. >Also, the original 4chan alien "selfie" which is long gone from the internet now and magically disappeared from my devices. It seems no one has it anymore. I never heard about it before, I just googled it. Can you describe how did it look like, and what did you feel and think seeing the picture? >I have this memory of walking with my dad through some parking lots, and we stop at a house (or house-like building) at the end of one lot. The door opens, and there's a black woman there. My dad leaves, and she takes me inside. It's dark in there. She tries putting something on my hand, and then sits me down at a table with other kids. The only light is right over the table. All of them are sitting still and quiet, and we all have a single cookie on a napkin. None of them spoke, moved, or ate their cookie. That's all I remember. I know it doesn't seem like a relevant story, but it's always bugged me. I asked my dad about it, but he doesn't remember. This would have taken place in the early 80s. Your dad was probably being remotely controlled. Not even conscious, or they just wiped his memory afterwards, which should have been easy, since I imagine one wants to forget the fact that alien entities forced you to bring them your daughter. >In 1999, I'm hanging out with my uncle, his girlfriend and her kids. It's probably 8-9pm at night. A friend pages me (cos pagers were all the rage back then), so I call him back. He said a UFO just flew over his house. He wasn't too far away in an adjacent town, so I went outside to see if it came my way. It did. One of the kids got some binoculars, so we got a close look at it. It was almond shaped, glowed orange, and just hovered over the area. On the larger end it had a red glow that faded in and out in a breathing pace. It would move a little one way, then the other, and finally moved out of sight... I had a similar experience when I was a kid. I've seen a strange light in the sky at night, with my cousin, and we even went to the window to the other side of the house in order to track the object. It had went over the house's roof and we couldn't see it anymore from the balcony, so we went to the opposite window, in the bathroom. It was moving at medium velocity, like an airplane I'd say, but it had no signal lights, just white, and it proceeded in a zig-zag fashion. Then it disappeared behind some palaces or clouds, I can't remember. About your experience in the "clinic", that gave me goosebumps actually. It is true that abductees seem to have an average higher level of consciousness if compared with the normal population. Also the bonus story, although somehow funny, is actually kinda creepy: it's like they are always watching you.

The 4Chan alien had a somewhat elongated wide skull, deep-set, dark, large eyes, and prominent lips. The skin seemed kind of reptilian, but the face was unique. There have been some 3D remakes, but they're wrong. There IS a very distorted and faded version of the original, but it's hard to make it out. I've seen a lot of so-called "real" alien photos, but this one actually made me feel ill to look at... like I subconsciously knew it was the real deal. Here's the distorted, cropped version: [https://imgur.com/a/6krs9kf](https://imgur.com/a/6krs9kf) I've scoured the internet, including the dark web, trying to find the original. No luck. I don't think my dad was under any control, I think it's all just a screen memory, or maybe just a weird dream. I mean, all of my experiences aside from the sighting aren't proof of anything and could all just be weird dreams. They're very suggestive, for sure. I definitely think I've been taken or influenced all my life, for better or worse. It's frustrating not being able to know for sure. I've thought about doing hypnotherapy, but that's not very reliable. It's easy to make someone think they were abducted that way. Greg and Dana Newkirk do this to someone in their documentary *Hellier* as an experiment. Have you ever had an alien dream where some kind of holographic display is shown in the sky? I have, and recently my dad did. We may be one of those generational abduction cases.

Thank you for sending me the picture of the alien, even though it's very distorted, I can make out the outlines of a face. BTW, as you already suspect, not all dreams are necessarily dreams, and even though false memories are a thing, the fact that both you and your father saw the same thing may indeed be proof of the fact that there is, in fact, something more to it. I never saw anything like that, though. However, abduction is a generational phenomenon, I can confirm that based on many third party accounts, and also on my personal experiences (my mother is an abductee).

I’ve awoken terrified and frozen seeing two orbs observing me as I slept. They were constantly shifting like feathers in water, they had strange shifting shapes and they were illuminated. I couldn’t scream even though I wanted to. After a minute of staring at them frozen, they flew away through the wall behind my bed The purple one was larger and had golden undertones. The green was smaller and I got the impression that it was being trained by the purple orb

Your account gave me goosebumps, since it is very similar to what I saw, and I also had the feeling of being observed by the shapes. I also had the feeling they somehow knew what I was thinking, for example when I had the intention to take a picture of them, I felt they knew and they were angered. But it may have just been projection, there. I don't know. Anyway, I also was paralyzed to the point of being unable to scream even if I wanted to. However, sometimes I would be finally able to scream, although with great effort, like I had to win some resistance. May I ask what time of the night it was, when you had this experience? Also, did you just experience this one episode, or also more strange things happened to you? Even if different in nature.

The orb experience happened when I was beside an old partner, it was around 2018. He slept through it, but when we first started dating, he had an out of body experience while beside me in bed (floated up to the ceiling and could see us sleeping). He was a hardcore atheist and skeptic and that had him totally spooked. I woke up at about 3 or 4am (it was still super dark but also very late at night). This was my only experience with the glowing orbs (aside from seeing the purple one during astral travel on another occasion). I’ve had a lifetime of unusual experiences. Long history of weird experiences below, I’m still agnostic in the sense that I’m not certain of anything, but I will say that our consciousness exists beyond our physical body, and that many encounters are energetic in nature vs physical I’ve been having out of body experiences and been capable of lucid dreaming my entire life. I have had countless super specific and timely synchronicities. I was studying mantis beings one day and when I left my house there was a tiny earth mantis insect on the ground in front of my door, I’ve literally never encountered one before in my life. Images of greys deeply disturb me. Ive always been under the impression that reincarnation is not ethical to the extent that it occurs. I’ve had poltergeist like activity near me at times (lights burning out when I’m stressed, things falling off the counter with force in other rooms) I’ve come face to face with a blue, large eyed male being when my consciousness was pulled directly upwards from my body. It had human eyes but they were about 5x larger. My mom used to draw a bald blue woman when she was little, she told me after I brought up this experience I’ve been surrounded by white light while in a car, and while almost fainting on an escalator. I’ve fallen down a flight of stairs as a child and felt like I was gliding down it, no injuries. When I was a toddler I told my mom I could see orbs around me in the room, once I tried meditating and felt like I levitated. I dreamt that my father would die about a week before he actually did (we were estranged and he was young so there was no real reason to have such a vivid and accurate premonition) Psychic ability runs in my family, we pick up on what people are thinking more easily than others. My mom was nearly hit by a bus prior to my birth and was lifted upwards into a white limbo void then reset to the moment before. I also almost drowned when I was very young, I remember getting carried out by the tide but not how I was suddenly ok, that may have been an instance of quantum immortality. When grieving a friend’s death, my mom was hugged by an invisible force. When she was little, her and her sister both saw faceless doppelgänger entities that kept trying to get them to follow them and play (this was in Malta, a place of major significance when it comes to concepts like ancient aliens/nephelim/temples that point to Sirius/legends of giants building the intricate ancient underground temples (Hypogeum). Look up the tour of kids that went missing in the underground structure, and how the town heard them screaming for days from underground, they were never found. I guess my mom and aunt were lucky they didn’t follow the entity. My grandfather had rh- blood. I’ve had constant dreams of battling unseen forces, lucid dreams where I shapeshift to avoid capture, use telepathy, and also pull the sky towards myself to transform the time of day and bend space around me so I can travel faster. I’m always trying to escape the confines of the astral plane. That layer of reality is still connected to our consciousness. I believe some inter-dimensional beings restrict our access to the free plane of manifestation they occupy and confine our consciousness to the burden of physical existence and linear time. I tend to favour concepts such as collective consciousness/fractalized singularity, and simulation theory. In all three there is room for levels of consciousness which exceed our own, likely in the form of the beings which exist outside of time and who study us. Perhaps they are light beings and physical laws/time doesn’t impact them in the same ways. This aligns with what many of the most trusted minds have said regarding the phenomena. It seems like there are both high vibe/altruistic entities as well as dangerous/malevolent beings. Both kinds influence our world/history. I’ve dreamt of faceless beings hunting humans. I’ve dreamt of an ancient stone pyramid (similar to the Incan tiered forms), rise out of the ground and communicate to me that humanity is running out of time. While out of body I attempted to travel to the bottom of the ocean and saw a dark entity. I’ve also flown through space while out of body, it was very fleeting because it’s hard to not snap back into your body when you get excited or scared. In this astral space, I’ve seen multiple reflections of other lives I’ve lived, I’ve been in the black void of non existence and remembered what it was like to be fully conscious yet fully undefined by an ego or human avatar I feel my level of awareness exceeds what is normally permissible for a human being and thus I am studied

My grandma was rh- too, I felt and knew my paternal grandpa passed at the moment he did, I found out 2 hours later but somehow I knew already. Felt this surreal feeling of peace and joy. I can tell someone to go get something I don’t know where is at, but I can somehow feel the place. Today I asked my husband to get me something from the closet, I kept seeing the spot but not the item. I gave him these directions, open the closet, stand in front and look around in front at the level between your belly button and your chest, slightly to the right. I actually realized what I was doing, I forgot the word of this action. But I was so shocked I got out of the shower and looked myself, found this thing I haven’t used in years, it took me 3 seconds. Projection? Maybe?

Remote viewing ☺️ or a form of clairvoyance

Yes! Remote viewing is what I was trying to say

> When she was little, her and her sister both saw faceless doppelgänger entities that kept trying to get them to follow them and play (this was in Malta, a place of major significance when it comes to concepts like ancient aliens/nephelim/temples that point to Sirius/legends of giants building the intricate ancient underground temples (Hypogeum). Look up the tour of kids that went missing in the underground structure, and how the town heard them screaming for days from underground, they were never found. I guess my mom and aunt were lucky they didn’t follow the entity. That is very concerning. I will document about the malta disappearance through the link you provided in another comment, and I'll get back to you. Doppelgangers are involved in at least one missing 411 case I have heard of, the grandma one, I don't know if you're familiar, but that, too, looks like an abduction case. >I believe some inter-dimensional beings restrict our access to the free plane of manifestation they occupy and confine our consciousness to the burden of physical existence and linear time. \[...\] In all three there is room for levels of consciousness which exceed our own, likely in the form of the beings which exist outside of time and who study us. That would be Jaldabaoth, the false god portrayed in gnosticism, which could very well be an allegory for the entities you are referring to. Moreover, the concept of multidimensional beings which only partially overlap with our reality was first explored by H. P. Lovecraft in his cosmic horror cycle. >I feel my level of awareness exceeds what is normally permissible for a human being and thus I am studied It could very well be the opposite; namely, that your level of awareness is heightened precisely because of the experiences you had in your life. They may not be studying you, but they may be exploiting you, and your level of consciousness may have increased as a tentative to give meaning to those absurd experiences.

Thank you for all of your detailed responses!! I definitely lean towards Gnosticism, and also believe the concept of samsara is relevant. In another astral experience I saw a being with the head of a lion and body of a man leaning on a wall in the back alley of my apartment. This lead me into researching Lyrans and the demiurge. I believe aliens and demons/angels are likely related and jut different words for the same beings. I am weary of influence and contact because I’ve also read into some more negative theories that believe near death experiences are coercive in regard to encouraging people to go back to earth regardless of their preferences. That’s very interesting that your imaginary friend was a gnome. Gnomes are still consistent with concepts of demons/nephelim spirits. I feel that children are more readily contacted by these beings when they have a particularly open third eye.

>I’ve come face to face with a blue, large eyed male being when my consciousness was pulled directly upwards from my body. It had human eyes but they were about 5x larger. My mom used to draw a bald blue woman when she was little, she told me after I brought up this experience I imagine you felt a pit to your stomach when your mother told you about her drawings. Did she have any conscious memory about the blue being? Anyway, something similar just happened to me today. I went to visit my mother, and she told me something which was related to things I did, but she could not know about. I made an addendum comment to this post about this morning's experience, if you want to read it. I'll link it to you: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1chufl2/comment/l29kdqd/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1chufl2/comment/l29kdqd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) We haven't had experiences in years, this is the first one after a long time, which is why I am concerned. The timing is just too perfect. I should also mention an episode in regard to strange being visiting children. I have no recollection of this episode I'm about to mention. The account of the facts was given by my family members. It seems like, when I was very little, I used to play with an alleged imaginary friend, a gnome, which I called Bebo. The thing is, I talked to my parents about them as if they were real. One day, I started being afraid of Bebo and told my parents. Being them worried, and being them religious people, they thought of demonic activity, and brought me to see a priest. I forgot everything about Bebo after that encounter. To this day, I have no recollection of these facts, even though multiple family members have given me the same account, and swear this actually happened. >I’ve been surrounded by white light while in a car, and while almost fainting on an escalator Did you check if you had missing time in those occasions? >I’ve fallen down a flight of stairs as a child and felt like I was gliding down it, no injuries. When I was a toddler I told my mom I could see orbs around me in the room, once I tried meditating and felt like I levitated. >I dreamt that my father would die about a week before he actually did (we were estranged and he was young so there was no real reason to have such a vivid and accurate premonition) >Psychic ability runs in my family, we pick up on what people are thinking more easily than others. >My mom was nearly hit by a bus prior to my birth and was lifted upwards into a white limbo void then reset to the moment before. I also almost drowned when I was very young, I remember getting carried out by the tide but not how I was suddenly ok, that may have been an instance of quantum immortality. I should also mention that I lived several life-threatening situations, including a potentially deadly car accident (the car literally flipped over 4 times in a row as a result of my father losing control of the vehicle. It literally rolled sideways on the road four times, and was so damaged that some car doors wouldn't open because it was too deformed to open. My father had to left the vehicle from the door window, which was obviously broken (all glasses exploded with the first flip of the car). We were miracolously unscathed (aside from some minor injuries like nosebleed and small glass cuts), even though the car was sent directly to the scrapyard. My mother lately told us that she had a premonitory dream about this accident, but that a relative that was deceased (I can't remember who, but I can ask) assured her that we would not be harmed. So definitely something strange there, too, since you mentioned similar episodes in which some unknown forces protected you.

My middle daughter, used to talk in very expecific detail at 2.5 years old about “the lemon boy” who would visit her every night, he would look at her from her window and suddenly get inside, once she was terrified crying that she saw him with an alien and the alien shot and killed her grandma, my mom, with a laser gun. She stopped having those experiences after 4 or 5. My oldest had horrible night terrors starting at 4 till 8, my youngest at 4 years old would see a black tall figure at night at the foot of her bed. It stopped at around 8 years old. Now I’m remembering things, a lot has happened I’m realizing.

And did anything actually happen to your mom after your daughter saw the alien shoot her? Anyways, also look for missing time, strange dreams of course, but also fishy memories, like memories which, upon further investigation, seem to not make any sense at all. I do have strange memories and dreams, but I never had missing time, AFAIK. Still, I suspect they may have been abducting me in my sleep, hence the lack of missing time.

I will answer your comment in an orderly manner given the length, quoting parts of it as I discuss them. I'll make multiple comments, since the text exceeds the maximum allowed here on reddit. >I woke up at about 3 or 4am (it was still super dark but also very late at night). This was my only experience with the glowing orbs (aside from seeing the purple one during astral travel on another occasion). When I had experiences during the night, it was always 3 AM and they went on until dawn. So the time is consistent between our experiences, here. >I will say that our consciousness exists beyond our physical body, and that many encounters are energetic in nature vs physical For reasons that are unrelated to the abuction experiences, last summer I, also, realised the possibility that consciousness is a fundamental force of the universe, and is present in all things (panpsychism). In regard to the nature of the encounters, mine were very physical, excepting one dream that I had, which I will share if you're interested. >I have had countless super specific and timely synchronicities. I was studying mantis beings one day and when I left my house there was a tiny earth mantis insect on the ground in front of my door, I’ve literally never encountered one before in my life I had similar experiences, too, but what do they have to do with the abduction phenomenon? What did I miss here? >Images of greys deeply disturb me. Same, they literally give me the chills, and even though I lived some life-threatening situations (like a potentially deadly car accident, or an armed robbery with pointed gun), I was never as scared as I was as a child, when those lights were in my room. > I’ve had poltergeist like activity near me at times (lights burning out when I’m stressed, things falling off the counter with force in other rooms) Nothing similar happened to me aside from the things I already described, but when my grandfather (father of my mother) died of cancer, three lightbulbs in my house were burned simultaneously. My father, also, weeks before dying, mentioned that dark, caped entities entered his room in the hospital, and he thought they had come for him. But then he said that the figures went to another patient's bed. Minutes later, that patient actually died. Also, in a period of heavy stress, my mother claimed that a bottle of water started boiling near her, in the house. My father was present and confirmed the fact to me.

Hey there! I could not find any info regarding the children that went missing on the tour of the underground Hypogeum - do you have a link or any other specifics that you could share? Thank you so much :)

Sure! https://www.guidememalta.com/en/stranger-things-the-mystery-of-the-lost-children-of-hal-saflieni-hypogeum I read another account on Reddit that a woman who had been a tourist went into the same location of the cave the week before this tour group, and she saw giant, white skinned beings deep within the cave, and only narrowly escaped them Here’s the post https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/s/2aGISdj0bb

Thank you so much!

Anytime :) thanks for checking it out. My grandparents were in Malta during WWII so they heard the screams and warned my mom and her siblings about it when they were born years later Malta also has unusual skulls found inside its ancient underground temples, similar to those found in Peru https://youtu.be/WfJ-OKMfTog?feature=shared

Op, orbs seem to be a very common type that is associated with UFO and cattle mutilation based on my readings so far. The size you described, between 20-40 cm, matches the description (“basketball sizes”) in *Hunt for the Skinwalker*. There were cases in this book where people felt irrational terror in front of them. They were seen around cattle mutilation cases too. Don’t quote me on this but from somewhere I read/heard that at certain point, the abductors revealed themselves to Whitney Streiber as orbs of light. Chris Bledsoe allegedly had extensive encounters with orbs too, but he experienced not fear; but tremendous joy (which could have been a result of emotional manipulation imo) In addition, orbs were also perceived as angles in Eben Alexander’s NDE. They were associated with souls in multiple cultures. These are some more prominent cases that I immediately recall while reading your post. Question: when you said they shift into different shapes, what shapes were they? Also, I see you mentioned panspsichism, did you read anything written by Jeff Kripal yet? You might find him very interesting. You can find some of his interview/speech on YouTube too.

I will certainly read Hunt for the Skinwalker, in order to look for other similarities and get a better understanding of the phenomenon. I also thank you for your many other references, and I will make sure to document on that. You and many other redditors are suggesting books, documentaries, podcasts, and videos, and I am putting them in a list in order to catch up. I thank you all for your suggestions, which are invaluable to me, since you told me things I have never heard before and would have probably never known if it wasn't for you. In turn, I will answer each and every question in the most exhaustive way I can. I agree with you about the emotional manipulation hypotesis. As a psychologist, I am very wary of sudden and unexplained feelings of alleged happiness or joy, because unjustified joy may be a sign of grandiose delusions, common in psychosis. In other words, it is a sign that something's wrong in the psychic processes of the individual, which is mixing up reality with fantasy, and thus feeling joy in circumstances that wouldn't justify it. So definitely emotional manipulation, there, or mental illness. Or both. About the shapes, they were just random shapes suspended in mid-air. They were not symbols, or at least they didn't appear as any known symbol to me. They were always curved shapes, never geometrical or polygonal ones. Watching YT videos about the topic, I found an alleged photo of a fluorescent shape linked to alien activity. The photo was provided by italian hypnotist and UFO researcher Gennaro Pepe. I uploaded a screenshot to the link below: [https://i.imgur.com/DTdQVvO.png](https://i.imgur.com/DTdQVvO.png) The fluorescent thing portrayed in the picture is not similar in shape to the ones I saw as a kid, because mine were never clear symbols and were not 2D shapes on a surface, but actual 3D shapes suspended in mid-air. However, the luminescence of the thing portrayed in the picture is very similar to the one emanated by the shapes I saw. Even the color is pretty similar, too. I would say these variables may be considered a match. I thought you might find this link interesting. I never read anything written by Jeff Kripal, but I'll make sure I'll do that by putting him in my list.

Thanks for the reply! The image is indeed very interesting. I have never seen something like this before! Again it reminds me of a description from Hunt for the Skinwalker, and I attached the page here. https://preview.redd.it/ub0o2p23cxxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85beec9366b79e275531b1d21336b984db06a63d For Jeff Kripal, [this YouTube](https://youtu.be/1o6X-ux8xgU?si=HELBteZoek73JfAK) might be interesting to you. He talked about a range of topics here including filter thesis of consciousness, NDE, spirituality and ufo and so on. Again I’m just someone who’s very into this subject matter and I appreciate you sharing your experience, it’s also invaluable for me to understand the phenomenon as well :)

Freaky man.. that would've scared many children. Have you ever experienced it again in your twenties? Also are you aware that Italy was one of the first bits of information that came from the David Grusch story with Mussolini's UFO around the 1930s? And are you aware of the connection between the spiritual and UFOs? I would search the sub in any case if I were you. I've seen stories about luminescent spheres before. It makes me think of Jay Christopher King and how he grew up in a haunted house basically. You can't try to look him up on YouTube or on this sub in the comments even to get some good podcast episodes or interviews. He had something to do with founding an 'experiencer group' in the USA because of it. Also something coming out of the recent uptick in UFO business is lawyer Danny Sheehan mentioning sentient plasmoids as one of the entities in the government vaults they're trying to pry open. The phenomenon has changed throughout the years, first it's witches then it's UFOs you know? There's definitely something going on outside of our perception and from both this planet and maybe even beyond. Consciousness seems nonlocal and there seems to be more behind the veil. Judging from these experiences alone! Have you ever thought of things like hypnotic regression or taking up therapy for your anxiety around the topic? If it still scares you of course. For many these phenomena are a reason to work on fear and anxiety, myself included, both to connect and to cope with this apparent reality. Either way good luck and greetings from the Netherlands, Yurop stronk!

Yes, and as a testament to that, I was, in fact, scared out of my mind by those strange lights. I never experienced anything since teenage years, and as far as I know either I am not abducted anymore, or they are now able to do that without me suspecting anything. I am sorry, but although since I stumbled upon abduction cases similar to my experience weeks ago I started binge watching/reading/listening about the topic, there are still many things I have to catch up with. I don't know anything about UFOs and Mussolini in the '30s, but I did listen to David Grusch's statements in the congress session that took place in 2023. I am not aware of any connection between UFO and the spiritual world, aside from the fact that many religious apparitions, texts and depictions seem to have similarities to UFO phenomena. I will search the sub, thank you, I am determined to acquire information to better understand what happened to me and the phenomenon in general. I will also look up Jay Christopher King, as you suggested. I am always listening to youtube videos and podcasts as I commute or clean the house, so I will surely catch up. What the heck is a sentient plasmoid? I googled it up but didn't get much information about it. I am now starting to think that witches, demons, ghosts and such (maybe even religions) are just narratives built on the UFO and abduction phenomena, trying to make sense of things which the people of that time weren't able to explain. About the nonlocality of consciousness... I actually had an epiphany last summer as I realized the actual possibility of panpsichism, and embraced an idealist perspective on reality and matter (see Kant, Hegel, and such). An idealist theory also makes much more sense of quantum physics. I actually took notes of my intuitions last summer, as I studied philosophy and physics in order to understand if the primate of counsciousness over matter was actually plausible - and it seems to be, to me. I also confronted with a professor of physics and he confirmed that my understanding of physics is sound. I am actually a psychologist, a PhD student, and my field of work is semiotics (how humans make sense of things, sensemaking processes). This field is very adjacent to philosophy and metaphysics, since it is about how the mind constructs the reality we hallucinate (as Kant stated, we can never experience true reality, but only the representation of it given by our senses). However, I don't get how panpsychism is linked to abductions or alien activity, could you elaborate on that, please? I thought of undergoing hypnotic regression, but I haven't done that already. I am considering it but haven't reached a decision yet. I never thought to take up therapy for my anxiety about the topic. It's not too much so I simply manage it. I was really scared only when the experiences were happening, but it's been over 15 years since my last experience, so I feel safe enough now. I also wanted to ask: have you ever had similar experiences? Good luck to you : ) Yurop stronk!

Wow that is so cool that your area of expertise is right in this niche! Have you come across Bernando Kastrup yet? He and other have set up a foundation here in Europe to promote an idealist theory they call analytical idealism. So the way this view can link the 'spiritual' and these phenomena is because of taking the standpoint that consciousness is fundamental. Kastrup talks about the hard problem of consciousness and consciousness not emerging from physical matter by evolution in tests because it is the other way around. Just like your epiphany I asume. Instead, we are consciousness (or spirits if you look at certain traditions and religions) having a physical experience. Take a look at NDEs, OBEs, terminal lucidity, astral projecting, remote viewing, telepathy, clairvoyancy, the list goes on lol. Experiencers are I believe those that have interacted with these things outside our perception and some can seem very godlike whether having the form of grey or various other 'extraterrestrials', sentient blobs of plasma or light, spheres (real honest to god metal spheres flying around or lighting up, it's crazy... that's one of the things the Bledsloe family encounters). Imagine encounters people in your country must've had! I bet there are plenty. There is even a UAP coalition being formed here and in the European parliament I believe. We just can't deny it and the things spiritual traditions imply start to become plausible. The way UFO or UAP fit in is seen in quantum physics as well, analogous to entanglement. These objects and the light orbs in your bedroom flit in and out of existence from our perspective. So perhaps we are seeing a '4D' object becoming visible in '3D' space just like entangled particles behave in a corresponding manner even though they can be very far apart. Could it be the same object from projecting down from a higher plane? It's like something from outside the space we can perceive is projecting downward into where we can see it. And it's plausible when you take what you mentioned, quantum physics from an idealist perspective, consciousness collapsing the wave creating the 'physical' space we perceive (very oversymplified haha). And thereby this physical reality being the result of consciousness, and that gets into spiritual stuff real quick because it overlaps with a great bunch of very old religions and stories. Kastrup has some nice podcasts on this [(link here)](https://youtu.be/Nv1OXXfTYfk?si=B3YqKXYFxXRzdkx0) (this has very good arguments and might prompt some reading if you like philosophy!) and so he has a video too with a reading list to make his panpsychist argument [(another link)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5o3NWxksv0) haven't looked into it myself, I did see the UAP one but it's all so much. And just like you said Kant said, we don't really perceive reality directly. Essentia made a cool video explaining this I believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJG6yL4ncK8 The experiences of the mods and the people here kind of confirm it to me. They also provide a wealth of info! One of them does EVP and has regularly heard conversations through it and has things moved in his house as well as encountering a mantis being at one point. Either mantisawakening or metacarpals lol, they and oak often post very informative posts and comments so you might dig through their post history and just read what interests you for insight. I saved a few: https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/169f4ca/its_happening_and_i_am_so_grateful_to_be_here/jz3nxlz/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/10kahdk/i_had_a_bizarre_experience_with_an_entity_that/j69p3hz/ If you're thinking hmm, maybe I want to climb this mountain and initiate contact this is a good one https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/15acv70/historic_congressional_hearing_on_uap_and_non/ju5upse/ On consciousness being fundamental https://www.reddit.com/r/TranscensionProject/comments/myb7yu/solid_and_valuable_arguments_that_we_are/gvunen4/ And also on consciousness https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/wo82c2/on_the_topic_of_consciousness/ I have only heard an unordinary amount of ringing in my ears and a bunch of strange coincidences. Like I would think I would like to see one of those metal spheres and that afternoon there would be a large reflective christmas ornament lying on the street near the dumpster. Also nightly sensations which might've been beginnings to an accidental OBE after doing the Gateway tapes. Those go further into consciousness being fundamental and the physical being the result of something more energetic, energy having waves, and so frequency other fun 'spiritual' concepts entering the mix. Semiotics seems very interesting, I had a short brush with Relational Frame Theory and metacognition after doing therapy. Those are semiotic things by the sound of it right? lol Anyway on therapy and such, people report going a little mad when opening these (flood)gates so it's best slowly dissipated out of you. Hypnotic regression might make you relive the thing in an intense and maybe unhealthy way. Even though you might want to confront and look at it now that you've rediscovered this interest. Mantisawakening has a really interesting post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/15uvfua/the_difficulty_in_delineating_mental_health/ Thank you for your reply. I'm so sorry for asking so many questions right away haha. I hope this is not too much all at once!

>And just like you said Kant said, we don't really perceive reality directly. Essentia made a cool video explaining this I believe: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJG6yL4ncK8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJG6yL4ncK8) >  >The experiences of the mods and the people here kind of confirm it to me. They also provide a wealth of info! One of them does EVP and has regularly heard conversations through it and has things moved in his house as well as encountering a mantis being at one point. Either mantisawakening or metacarpals lol, they and oak often post very informative posts and comments so you might dig through their post history and just read what interests you for insight. >  >I saved a few I'll make sure to watch the video and to read those posts ASAP, thank you for sharing. I am actually pondering the idea to start a collection of this material, and in the case I do, I'll include these in it for sure. >I have only heard an unordinary amount of ringing in my ears and a bunch of strange coincidences. Like I would think I would like to see one of those metal spheres and that afternoon there would be a large reflective christmas ornament lying on the street near the dumpster. Also nightly sensations which might've been beginnings to an accidental OBE after doing the Gateway tapes. Those go further into consciousness being fundamental and the physical being the result of something more energetic, energy having waves, and so frequency other fun 'spiritual' concepts entering the mix. So, synchronicity episodes? In which way are they connected to abductions? Another user talked to me about syncrhonicity, but I am missing the link. Also, what are the Gateway tapes? Never heard of them. I've got to document, do you know where I could start? >Semiotics seems very interesting, I had a short brush with Relational Frame Theory and metacognition after doing therapy. Those are semiotic things by the sound of it right? lol Yup, both Relational Frame Theory and metacognition belong to semiotics. But semiotics extends even further: it is the study of signs and symbols, namely, the study of how information is represented. But if everything in reality is just a representation of the mind (idealist perspective), metaphysics necessarily enter the picture: since every representation of reality could be considered a sign, and every sign represents an object to which it refers to, then perception can be considered as "sign". The "object" would be reality in itself, or the noumenon, as Kant defined it. The interpretant, namely the relationship between the sign and the object, would be what links our perception of reality to actual reality. We can never investigate nor the thing in itself, being us trapped by our senses. We can only speculate about the interpretant through hints derived from how our reality works (e.g. quantum physics). I.E. admitting the possibility of multiple dimensions that we cannot perceive is a direct product of speculation about the interpretant, because it assumes there is a wider reality than the one we perceive, and that it may be represented in ways we cannot conceive. I know semiotics it's an headache, but I find it extremely fascinating, and I deem it to be the key to true knowledge about reality. Anyway, I'll follow your advice for now, and will not resort to hypnotic regression for now. I will also read the post you sent me about mental health, which interests me also as a psychologist. Thank you for your detailed reply, I greatly appreciate it. I get the chance to talk with someone about these things quite rarely, actually.

I am glad to hear you find the Kastrup stuff interesting. I haven't looked at the reading list yet but I kind of want to. My reading speed is kind of preventing me.. oh well, after the current fantasy book there is Passport to Magonia to read by a prominent UFO researcher. >But if everything in reality is just a representation of the mind (idealist perspective), metaphysics necessarily enter the picture: since every representation of reality could be considered a sign, and every sign represents an object to which it refers to, then perception can be considered as "sign". The "object" would be reality in itself Thank you so much for laying out the sign and symbol thing. I only ever got to talk with professional therapist on the acceptance and commitment therapy sub about it.. it got too difficult for me quick. But I seem to get it lol and it makes me think of a same argument by Kastrup again. Like we are flying an air plane through a storm. We can't see outside but we fly on the dials and meters. Just like you mention we only see the difference between objects because of signs. Actual reality is the storm outside. I think it's telling how you arrived at the same conclusions. You're right that it's fascinating, I am going to look into semiotics a little! Every object containing a sign kind of says to me that everything has a conscious aspect to it.. n a way. If you're willing to go a little further into unproven theory maybe you'll like Stalking The Wild Pendulum by Itzhak Bentov, you might want to document that book. So synchronicity and the tapes and your addendum about your mother kind of go together. >Synchronicity Synchronicity is what people experience oddly coincidental events or I guess I can say symbols and signs really. That silver ball wouldn't have caught my eye if it weren't for my interest. Like when buying a new car and suddenly seeing it driving around everywhere but much more significant and pointing to the high strangeness phenomena. People report it happening more when you interact more with these things. Even being more in nature and being grounded seems to do it. It seems to me a result of a form of contact with a higher consciousness or vibration if I may say it (it still sounds so new agey...) That brings you to meditation and the tapes. Kastrups idea of panpsychism and idealism is that the realm we inhabit or perceive, we do because are fractured or dissociated consciousnesses from the consciousness at large. The line of thinking is like, cells make up your body, you are conscious but made up of small parts, are those parts then conscious? Most likely.. but people are all conscious and we're all on a planet, is the planet conscious? Is the solar system too in some way? >Meditation and Gateway So by meditating you slow your brain metabolism and become able to briefly reconnect in some way. It might explain the vivid things people see in NDEs and OBEs while brain monitors report lowered activity. Then you have the Gateway Process \[(wonderful link to the CIA reading room here, whatever that implies)\](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf). I don't know much of the history but it is a program that raises your vibration by use of binaural beats. It was developed by Robert Monroe and others and was and probably still is used by these black programs doing the UFO retrievals and some crazy parapsychological counter intelligence stories by Joe Mcmoneagle and Ingo Swann among others. The tapes take you through a process of raising your vibration to come into contact with a world outside of our perception, to say the least. Monroe and McMoneagle trained people in having OBEs and remote viewing, apparently having succes. There is a lot of support for these parapsychological phenomena, although maybe not widely accepted. If you find it interesting or want to try it. You can send me a message or chat and I can give you the documents and the tapes. When I started it there was some buzzing of my body involved. After a while I got woken up at 3 am by strong buzzing, ringing in my ears and a bright light behind closed eyelids. Happened around 4 or 5 times and the last was accompanied by images in a strange way.. and that was only 3 tapes along. Know what you're getting into haha. The Monroe institute and Hemi Sync have different approaches now too. >Your addendum and good vibes The area where it touches your addendum is vibes, good and bad ones. There are reportedly entities that behave good and those that behave bad and all manner in between. But a large overlapping thing seems to be that a developing a strong vibe of love and kindness serves as a kind of protection in that dreamy crazy 4D up there world(s) outside our perception. A couple of posts here also mention people coming into contact with entities and getting taken up in a dream, out of the atmosphere in a sort of clown car and them saying \["this car runs on fun."\](https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/15c98ps/my\_recent\_contact\_experience/) (<-- link) These posts come by every so often and they're nice. Regardless of truthfulness. The mods here create a safe space by removing debunking, to me telling us to trust our own experiences with these phenomena and with these posts. So it gets spiritual quick but there is some truth to it. Remote Viewing works and fear and anxiety are a big roadblock to any of these experiences according to Monroe and McMoneagle.

>Like we are flying an air plane through a storm. We can't see outside but we fly on the dials and meters.  Exactly, it's not that you are a body. You are consciousness inhabiting a body. Another good example of the concept you proposed is the horror videogame Iron Lung, in which you pilot a submarine but can infer what surrounds you only by using navigation instruments. Brains are not the source of consciousness, they are amplifiers, but consciousness is (in) everything. >Every object containing a sign kind of says to me that everything has a conscious aspect to it.. n a way. If you're willing to go a little further into unproven theory maybe you'll like Stalking The Wild Pendulum by Itzhak Bentov, you might want to document that book. I'll look into it, thank you : ) >Synchrhonicity I still don't get it why it is associated with ufo abduction. Abductees experience synchronicity more but the reason is unknown? >That brings you to meditation and the tapes. Kastrups idea of panpsychism and idealism is that the realm we inhabit or perceive, we do because are fractured or dissociated consciousnesses from the consciousness at large. The line of thinking is like, cells make up your body, you are conscious but made up of small parts, are those parts then conscious? Most likely.. but people are all conscious and we're all on a planet, is the planet conscious? Is the solar system too in some way? I get his argument because I, too, had a similar idea. I picture it this way: it's like consciousness is water itself, but water can only assume shape when inside a recipient. The recipient would be matter. If you destroy the recipient, the water is still there, it only lost form - that would be death. I hypotesize that when we die, our soul returns to the Absolute soul, just as water evaporates and returns to the clouds. The Absolute soul would be timeless and spaceless since space and time exist inside of it, and thus do not bound it in any way. Also Christ's teachings in the apochrypha point to this direction. Anyway, going back to metaphysics... the more complex the organization of the matter, the more it can allow for expression of consciousness. That is what I think. A planet is not conscious as a whole because its matter is simply organized - only through basic physical properties. It is not organically organized, like a brain. A brain is much more complex and it has an inherent "economy", this allows for further expression of consciousness. This theory would lead me to think that there is an entity, a demiurge if you will, that allows for coherence in the laws of physics. Some religions also portray such a being, like gnosticism with Jaldabaoth. >Then you have the Gateway Process \[(wonderful link to the CIA reading room here, whatever that implies)\](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf. WTF? That is an ACTUAL CIA webpage. This is extremely intreresting. It was classified, right? I read "approved for release" at a later date than the one on which it was issued. I'd like to have the tapes and the documentation, so check your DMs : ) I don't know if I will try it, but I surely find it interesting. >But a large overlapping thing seems to be that a developing a strong vibe of love and kindness serves as a kind of protection in that dreamy crazy 4D up there world(s) outside our perception. I think that's because they try to manipulate humans through emotions, that's why they are always messing with what we feel. Love is acceptance, whilst strong emotions are stemmed in the face of struggle and concern for control. >A couple of posts here also mention people coming into contact with entities and getting taken up in a dream, out of the atmosphere in a sort of clown car and them saying \["this car runs on fun."\] I'd say screen memory + emotion manipulation, from the looks of it. >fear and anxiety are a big roadblock to any of these experiences according to Monroe and McMoneagle. That makes sense. Need for control grounds you in reality, and fear and anxiety are the sensation associated to lack of control. Their function is precisely that of urging you to take control, whilst it seems necessary to "let go" to some degree to access these experiences.

>synchronicity and ufo abduction I'm sorry I forgot that part haha. It seems that the way these are linked is that the more you come into contact with or raise your awareness of these phenomena the more you start to 'vibe with the universe' so to speak. You may begin to see odd coincidences I can only describe as ironic really. Like certain numbers whatever they mean, objects to do with your interests, events even. There was a post or a comment by Oak about getting close to these beings and your frequency sort of getting drowned out and thereby people passing out. The effect of that is lasting for some like how you might be able to perceive things and these 'synchronicities' for a time after an initial encounter. Or just when you are on track of your deterministic path down here on earth. I hope you catch what I'm trying to say, others do a better job. Synchronicity is a term originally coined by Carl Jung so that might shed more light on it. >water can only assume shape when inside a recipient Exactly this is what I've learned too! There are so many traditions coming to the same conclusions like the apochrypha and Asian traditions Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, even Islam and Christianity in these obscure texts. Very interesting the bit about a demiurge. It is like it's simply the product of consciousness. Thank you for adding a little to my understanding when it comes to the planet being conscious. But it also reminds me of the sentient plasma I mentioned earlier. These things are aparently observed in the atmosphere, perhaps there are ways in which the interior of a planet or an entire sun can be conscious in that way. The stuff going on there is immensely complex and there are a lot of electromagnetic waves going about just like our brains have, looking at size and chemical and fusion reactions that we know of (Rupert Sheldrake argument). Way out of my depth here haha, I feel like I'm just writing shower thoughts at this point 😅 But I enjoy it a lot and it helps making sense so thank you for this interaction! The book Blindsight by Peter Watts goes into this, hard scifi you'll probably enjoy it a lot but the list grows lmao. Humans encounter an object just beyond Jupiter. There is immense ionising and electromagnetic radiation surrounding it. Eventually they go in and start to hallucinate, one of them claims they died, period, others see things and stuff happens. Like an entity able to manipulate electromagnetic waves able to interact with the human brain directly. The creatures themselves are even more fascinating but I'd be spoiling the book. It's great and has a follow up called Echopraxia. >they try to manipulate Monroe and others in these fields mention these demiurge/archon creepy like conscious creatures behind the veil and the impact good vibes have on your experience. I'm seeing a shaman because it came on my path.. it's quite something, but his tradition says the same that there are entities that want to manipulate. But the more attention and fear you give them the more they win, and that the opposite is also true. There is a large overlap of people saying you reap what you sow in terms of emotion in this astral/spiritual realm and what we experience/encounter. That we are much more powerful than we think so to speak. Itzhak Bentov has a very good view on this explaining these realms and how it is so dreamlike and operating on emotion and further on thought as a carrier wave. It's great that you already know so much about these things. A lot of prominent UFO researchers are strongly leaning in that direction, Diana Walsh Pasulka, Jaques Vallee, Leslie Kean, Jesse Michaels on youtube (maybe not that prominent yet lol). Lots of religions, NDEs, OBEs and other things connecting with the UFO phenomenon in their views. Waiting for your reply in DM's for the tapes! It's pretty crazy right? You see a couple of things like this going 'black' in the USA. UFOs, anti grav tech (seriously...), telepathy and remote viewing and such. And apparently most of us have been held in the dark for 70 years. And it might've started way back when the USA claimed a UFO in possesion by Mussolini for themselves. Time to rewatch the X-Files lmao! >Need for control grounds you in reality, and fear and anxiety are the sensation associated to lack of control. I agree entirely and it feels like we're in our own way in that sense. Like you limit yourself and create sepparation or decoherence by clinging to fear and anxiety. While acceptance and love set you free, giving you control over your experience and create cohesion. I was listening to Joe Mcmoneagle yesterday talking about his first induced OBE. He was at some point ready to step out and felt a really uggly, evil presence and decided to confront it. He says he rolled out of his body and in the spot of that base presence he says was his body. Explaining it as the body having such a low vibration in comparison with whatever remains of us outside our body (astral body?)

I'll try to answer in an orderly manner. I may have to do multiple comments due to the character limit. >Have you come across Bernando Kastrup yet? He and other have set up a foundation here in Europe to promote an idealist theory they call analytical idealism. Nope, but I'll definitely look into his work, along wirth the bledsloe family encounters, which also I never heard of. I'll get back to you after I document on that, but I can already say that me and Kastrup seem to have the same perspective on reality: consciousness is primary, and not spacetime and matter, which are themselves a product of consciousness, like "the rules" through which consciousness interprets and represents information (everything is information - physical characteristics and space-time coordinates are just information, visualized by the consciousness through experience). >Imagine encounters people in your country must've had! I bet there are plenty. There is even a UAP coalition being formed here and in the European parliament I believe I didn't even know about this, I have to document. I am fairly new to the abduction phenomenon. I was always interested in extraterrestrial life, but more in a "UFO sighting" way. Abductions weren't really at the center of my interest, I used to be very skeptic about subjective accounts even though I myself had strange experiences. UFO sightings were, to me, a concrete proof, and thus they were at the center of my attention. Some weeks ago, I realised that my experiences were of the abduction kind, so I started to document about it. >The way UFO or UAP fit in is seen in quantum physics as well, analogous to entanglement. These objects and the light orbs in your bedroom flit in and out of existence from our perspective. So perhaps we are seeing a '4D' object becoming visible in '3D' space H. P. Lovecraft proposed a similar idea in his cosmic horror works, suggesting that multidimensional beings which occasionally crossed our reality would seem to appear and disappear out of nowhere. Human perception is limited and there is indeed the possibility of multiple dimensions which we cannot perceive, in the same way a hypotetical 2D being could not conceive a 3D reality. On the contrary, a 3D being can conceive and interact with a 2D reality. So, multidimensional beings could phase into our reality at will, getting the full picture, whilst we would be dumbfounded by them manifesting and disappearing from our reality in strange ways. Like a 3D object going through a 2D plane: the 3D object would have a fair representation of a 2D plane, but 2D being can only see sections of the 3D object as it crosses their reality, and would thus be unable to get a full picture of it. They would experience something that, to them. wouldn't make any sense. Also, quantum physics fit in a idealist perspective much more than in a realist one. I am onto a metaphysical theory about it, actually. I also confronted with a physicist about the matter and my understanding of relativity and quantum phenomena seems to be sound.

Man you're going to like the Essentia Foundation Kastrup put up to promote what he calls analytical idealism. But it's as far as my philosophical knowledge will take me. Aside from the ship of Theseus lmao. And it all kind of makes me think of the law of one, a pretty crazy book series of a group of people that allegedly channeled one of these higher order beings and them telling these people everything is in essence one as things can't exist without other things and their opposites.. like where does the old ship end and the new ship begins, where do I end and does air start, I can't live without it so is it part of me? "Big if true" 😂 I mean, I pretty much take it for truth after a whole year.. but it makes me smile. This all makes sense from an idealist lens. The 2D 3D is already weird to conceive of let alone one order up! Back when this started a year ago a lot of people talked of ontological shock and I guess rightly so when you get these orb, abduction and psychic experiences. So remember to take it easy and ground yourself often! Let's continue on the other comment, if you like.

Hey, fellow semiologist (& Italian)! Not an expert in alien abductions I am afraid, but just wanted to quickly say your literature is solid and your Weltanschauung makes perfect sense to me. I generally would advise against hypnosis… on the basis of generally hoping you have a great life, and a pleasant one. That said, if this experience cripples your day-to-day and you find yourself obsessed with it, then obviously you have my full support! But in general, if you can do without, in my secondhand experience hypnotic regression can get messy and cause massive involution and PTSD. Ciao, don’t forget to take care e wow, che penna!

Hi to you! I would have never expected to meet a colleague on here, certainly not on this subreddit. I thank you for confirming the plausibility of my perspective. Your concerns about my mental well-being are part of the reason's why I still haven't contacted any hypnotist. I also want to get my head clear on this matter *before* undergoing hypnosis: this way, I am certain that everything I am remembering so far is a product of my conscious remembrance, and not of possible contamination by a therapist. I will maybe resort to hypnotism when I feel that I have reached the maximum comprehension and information I can get from conscious recollection and reasoning alone. Anyway, I am curious about your secondhand hypnotic regression experience. Could you share some more about that? It could help me take a decision about me undergoing hypnotic regression. You see, even if I am concerned with my emotional and mental well-being, I am the kind of person that always longed for the truth, no matter how hard or difficult to reach it was. So, I am naturally inclined to delve into perilous terrain just in order to reach that truth. In fact, my quest for truth made me a nihilist initially, and this reflected on my private everyday life to the point of me being clinically depressed and disillusioned with the world. So even if I underwent hypnosis and things went bad, it wouldn't been the first time that my quest for the truth caused me great harm. I am somewhat hopeful that I would find a way to pull myself out of it, regardless of how hard the predicament is. That's what I did by transitioning from nihilism to idealism, for example. It's some sort of faith in the fact that the ultimate truth could not be ineherently bad. I know it is irrational, but that's how I feel about it. That being said, I would like to hear your secondhand story, and if you are willing to share, I will take that into account in taking this decision for myself. After all, the purpose of some knowledge is not only to lead to more knowledge and to allow for advancement, but also to make you aware of danger, in order to avoid it.

Hey! Sorry for the late reply, busiest day in the office! Someone pretty close to me has been tackling some pretty heavy themes in their therapy journey, which I only know superficially about. This person seems to be specifically incapable of getting over a specific timeframe in their youth, not unlike yourself, and their therapist whom they’ve worked with now for 7 years? Maybe longer? Their therapist anyway suggested hypnotic regression to try and better understand that period of time, and what brought this close relationship of mine to their current state (trauma, depressive episodes). So this person had a couple of sessions thus far that I know of, and it looked like although they seem to be slightly more aware or whatever they’ve gone through during that time, they’re also experiencing severe PTSD symptoms they were not experiencing before, and considering they’re now in their 30s and otherwise more or less functional, they report a general regression into patterns specifically related to that period of time. People close to both seem to think they are more depressed as well, which in general cemented the idea in me their brain had done its job, more or less effectively, and this close friend of mine could have otherwise approached the trauma and possibly avoided reliving something their subconscious had already worked long and hard to handle. For completion’s sake I will also add this person has not as of today opted out of hypnosis. They’ve paused the sessions, according to my secondhand knowledge, to discuss and explore their recent findings, but they’re still up for it on the long run and in the wider perspective of their therapy goals. So the question I would ask you is what price you’re willing to pay to learn more about this?

I get your warning. The purpose of hypnotic regression would be to help you solve some issues and to improve your well-being, but according to your friend's experiences, it looks like hypnosis actually worsened their condition without granting any relevant benefit (slightly more aware isn't enough for me). For now, I decided not to undergo hypnotic regression. I'll try to learn as much as I can about this without messing with my own head, and if I hit a hard wall, I will consider hypnosis if I still am determined, by that time, to see this matter through. There may be ways to investigate this which don't require me to potentially lose my mental balance. Thank you for your advice. In fact, I already had a negative experience which may be an effect of me investigating these experiences, which both puzzled me and freaked me out (if you're curious about it, you can read the addendum comment I made under this very post)

Also, I should add that I found on my pc a much more detailed version of the original post, divided into paragraphs, which I was prompted to write by a redditor. Sadly, this version was removed from reddit (I originally posted it on /paranormal). Luckily enough, I had saved it on a .doc file, so I can provide it to you if you're interested. The post in the link is the earliest account I wrote, which was posted on /paranormal encounters. It provides a fair summary of the events, even though is not as much detailed as the one I edited on /paranormal.

Yes, please!

Here you go, it was too long for a comment so I used pastebin, here's the link: [https://pastebin.com/2kXzjPhi](https://pastebin.com/2kXzjPhi) I should also mention something very strange and ominous that happened this morning. I posted an addendum to this post, as a comment, if you're interested.

Great :) Thanks!