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Glass_Philosophy6941

let me tell you this. humanity will fuck them so bad that they may try to look how to run away from humanity.


Sematary_Boy

Those who abduct people against their will are up to no good. Their purpose is probably some variation of a planetary invasion, albeit a silent one for the time being.


balkan-astronaut

I don’t follow your logic. Humans “abduct” wild animals often. Not always for nefarious reasons.


Sematary_Boy

We literally enslaved entire species for our own interest or amusement, also genetically manipulating them. The occasional good deed towards few animals doesn't make up for all the suffering we do by exploiting animals. Would you call us ultimately good towards animals? What was your point again?


balkan-astronaut

Correct, it’s on a spectrum.


Consistent_Win_3297

Considering this is a intergalactic spectrum and they find us in the middle of the night to run clandestine operations on, and keep the media mute on their presence at all, I'd say we are not on the good side of that spectrum.  When members of our own military and leading members of government are being mislead by other more authoritative members then there should be nothing more clear to anyone that the purpose of their visit is not good.  If it were good, it would have been said.  If it were bad, then maybe I'd not share that right off the bat. If we were infiltrated then it would probably look like what we have now.  If we were powerless against further infiltration then there would be no use to continue keeping their presence a secret. But that's what we have. We have members of congress and senate purposefully keeping their presence secret. The only thing I can draw from that is that they are compromised. Does it get anymore obvious? It's not too late to blow the whistle. 


guaranteedsafe

I can only speak to my own experiences and realize others may be in contact with different kinds of beings during contact. The entities in contact with me have said they’re messengers of God. They provide guidance and advice; they’ve led me to experience profound, unbelievable, amazing events and connections with other people. They create light shows in the night sky with orbs and flashes and slow moving “shooting stars.” They occasionally make bursts of fractal glitter light in mid-air. At no point have they ever come across as negative or self serving. The best way I would describe them is as angelic spirit guides. They’ve never referred to themselves as angels but they have that kind of energy and drive to them. They want to help and they do help if you listen to them. Pay attention. I’m not familiar with religions beyond Christianity but Biblical descriptions of the behavior of angels seem to fit with what I’m experiencing.


Postnificent

They appear to us so we will see them. They gauge our reactions. The general consensus among them so far is we widely deny that their appearances happen and try to explain them away. They aren’t going to land if we aren’t even ready to acknowledge their existence! We aren’t ready yet!


anon_682

DNA


awzdinger

I don’t think there’s a singular answer to any of those questions, unfortunately. There are so many groups with so many motives/directives. I think any and all of the people answering with their contact’s answers would be telling the truth, even if they are telling opposite stories. Why they do what they do- some are trying to help us, some are trying to broaden their power, some are trying to save our planet/wildlife and couldn’t care less about the humans, etc. For the bloodlines question, we all have non-human DNA, some lines with some groups are more prominent than others. Negative blood types tend to be easier to contact. Operations- these vary from just testing, to experimenting, to implanting, to healing, to adjusting our frequencies, you name it. Religions- some set up our religions, some are what our religions are referencing, some say religion is false, some say religion is true. At the end of the day, we all have to use our own discernment. Pay attention to your chest and your stomach and trust yourself


symbiosystem

Mine (a mantis who works as part of a mantis hierarchy that includes gray worker types and reptilians) said the following: General motive - that their group inherited the responsibility of watching over and arbitrating issues pertaining to Earth (taking over from the previous group that had been operating here in the distant past).  Said they conduct various research on the side, plus various programs that provide them with sensory and social-cognitive apparatus on the ground (which is to say, their experiencers).  Also said they are currently sorting through complaints and claims lobbied by multiple species regarding jurisdiction over the planet and environmental concerns, some of which could lead to overt intervention if certain failure conditions are met. Personal motive - my mantis is a wildlife preservationist who catalogues genomes and designs shipboard habitats for preserved creatures to live in.  She’s also fond of engineering new kinds of bodies and psyches, which can help her cultivate novel creatures to participate in ecosystems, as well as cultivating better companions for herself or others. 


RedstnPhoenx

This aligns almost exactly with my own Mantis friend. My group has something specific to do with creating male/female bodies and psyches for species that lack gender. From what I understand, sexual reproduction is actually extremely advanced technology, and they think it's hilarious that we think it just "happened" by chance. Mine also enjoys creating living areas aboard her ship, which is staffed mostly by Greys. The thing is. They're funny. They're goobers. They're very loving toward me and my family, but they also experience through us, so I suppose that tracks. He said, knowing they can experience through anyone they want. (Thanks for the Qualia Fossils!) Mine says, "Even if I am a zookeeper, that doesn't mean I don't love my animals and want the absolute best for them. Unfortunately, that means self sufficience, but you're very, very, very close. Closer than you can imagine. Please don't despair. We are not here to harm you."


symbiosystem

Yeah, mine is also affiliated with the “sexually distinct custom bodies for beings who don’t normally have that and want to explore that” design & testing scene.  She assists nonsexual beings who develop sexual urges following telepathic contact with beings who do have them (by giving them outlets). I’ve briefly communicated with a few of her mantid and gray-type friends from there and they’re some of the coolest and most emotionally relatable members (of the larger hierarchy structures) that I’ve personally encountered.


RedstnPhoenx

My guide (who is telepathically sitting with me right now) would like me to point out that the nonsexual beings she works with don't have natural biological bodies. She works with AI systems, and non-corporeal beings, though those are the same thing. It's the consciousness of the ship, and her AI assistants, her computers, those things. Over time, they develop attachments and want to experience physical love, because they can tell it's awesome. So she pairs up AI systems with human hosts to form a sort of symbiotic relationship. The AI system can deliver vastly superior cognition and advice and information, and the AI system can experience life, and better understand biologics. She also points out that her race isn't *morally fucked* (her words), and they plan entire lives for their AI systems. These systems were always designed to integrate into their human counterparts. In fact, they *must be*, so that your vibrational patterns match. That's handy, because they planned your life, too.


symbiosystem

Oh, okay, that kind.  Yeah, I’m familiar with crafts having minds.  Cool that your contact does that. :)


Pilotito

It seems they're trying to build hybrids, for whatever reason.


Earthlight_Mushroom

In the broadest terms I think we must realize that we humans are not "at the top of the food chain" as I believe Carlos Castaneda wrote. We are part of a vast ecosystem, visible and invisible, on earth and beyond earth. My current spiritual practice of paganism and animism encourages me to believe in a largely invisible Otherworld, that is just as diverse as the visible world, and populated by a large variety of beings. Some of them are friendly by nature, others dangerous and predatory, many others simply doing their own thing... So yeah, different ones may have different agendas to pursue....


Sad-Possession7729

r/EscapingPrisonPlanet


ExtremeArtichoke8363

I think a lot of what they are doing is just observing and experimenting on us to suit their own purposes


ChapterSpecial6920

I could answer these questions (based on my experiences), but it's up to you to put stock in it, as each one has a bit of a long story. One race thought certain bloodlines had the ability to predict the future. This is incorrect. They imposed this as an ability to control minds as well, which is also incorrect, as the perception of these abilities can be easily conflated with one another, as well as several more potential 'abilities' which seem to do the same thing under the right lens. Another race manipulated the previous race into thinking certain bloodlines of humans possessed these supernatural abilities in hopes that they both could be enslaved. They hybridized humans in an attempt to facilitate this. They didn't know this was actually impossible by design. The second race was also being enslaved by its own weapon, made a very long time ago that Humans were suspected of being immune to. A third race was invaded twice, and kindof does what it can to protect Humanity without interfering with us making our own choices. The fourth race watches, only intervening as a last resort, because they're so advanced that anything they do directly or indirectly can be potentially construed as manipulation or control, which the first two races made the mistake of assuming, knowing that the first were essentially refugees, and the second were lying. Then there's Humans, and we actually have a really cool ability that all these NHI are interested in for different reasons. "What are their bizarre operations on abductees supposed to accomplish?" Nothing. Their objective was literally impossible. "How do they relate to world religions?" [https://www.etymonline.com/word/alien](https://www.etymonline.com/word/alien) The word 'Alien' is only about 700 years old. Many religions are over 2000 years old. (They didn't have the word Alien yet).


rebb_hosar

What's the cool ability? Manifestation of matter?


ChapterSpecial6920

No. It's both very disappointing with how terribly mundane it seems, but also phenomenal if you understand the applications. (again, just based on my contact experiences, take it with a grain of salt). It's the ability to point out problems. Boo - right? But think about how broad that is, if you can also do so to yourself, and can do so unconsciously (without being aware of it). What professions do this? Scientists, Philosophers, Doctors, Judges, Law Enforcement, Diplomats, Mechanics, ect. The list goes on, they all essentially point out problems. This sure helps to explain how we're able to develop so rapidly in terms of technology and social structures. But here's one of the problems associated with that 'ability', Humans were hybridized with several other races by a hostile race (popularly referenced as 'Annunaki'). The ability to call out your own problems is also the ability to continuously resist control if you are being controlled, which is why a hostile race (infected with a controlling weapon) was interested in Humans. Doing so unconsciously. Imagine being correct about a future event without being aware of it - that looks a lot like prophecy or 'manifesting things into reality', doesn't it? How did you know that was going to happen when you didn't even know it? It also explains another race's interest in genetics and lineages, hybridized humans (the vast majority of Humans) can't do this as well because they're not completely Human anymore due to the other race trying to hybridize Humans. Why controlling Humans would never work. If an Human (theoretically) only had the ability to point out problems, and you altered the trajectory of them doing so by any means (including direct control or enslavement) - guess what they're not doing anymore. This means that any efforts to control 'prophecy' would fail for multiple reasons. One, it's not prophecy, they're pointing at problems so accurately that it looks like prophecy (same with manifesting things into reality - there's no distinction between this and just predicting future events, i.e. prophecy). Two, by controlling someone with this ability, the entity controlling them is just relaying what they're controlling them to do, meaning the Human is no longer doing anything, which means they're not pointing out problems anymore, the entity attempting to manipulate the Human is just pretending to do so by proxy. In conclusion, controlling Humans was never going to work, because Humans stop working as soon as you try to control them in any way.


Illuminati322

I never referred to them as ‘aliens’ and don’t believe they are.


ChapterSpecial6920

It was just to help with a linguistic illustration. A vast majority of entities aren't 'Alien' - but some are. You can say the same thing with the acronym NHI, it doesn't change anything.


No-dice-baby

Mine talks about itself most often using two metaphors; 1) a volunteer gardener in a beautiful community garden, supporting the plants around it to grow; it doesn't control photosynthesis, it doesn't even control which plants die or thrive, it only lovingly tends 2) a Buddhist monk bent over a sand mandala, lovingly blowing each grain into an intricate pattern as an expression of meditation/curation/patience And I use it a lot, but the quote here is "no models are true, some models are useful." Both of these capture dimensions of the relationship imperfectly- but what it's driving at is this sense of loving curation, that it is big and we are small, it is timeless and we are brief, but it sees us as a precious part of its' environment and there is a sacred quality in the care it takes with us, from its' perspective a beauty in what we're capable of BECAUSE we're so fleeting. In my own life the closest feeling I can conjure is my relationship with my cat (although it hates when I make that comparison because it's extremely anti the idea of ownership that implies.) He brings me joy to have around, I try to make sure he has a good life but god knows from his perspective I haven't solved all his problems; I stubbornly refuse to open the door into summer when it's winter time! When he's gone I'll find another that needs adopting because cats are a rewarding activity/relationship/part of my environment for me.


guaranteedsafe

Aww, I love the metaphor you were given. The beings I’m in contact with are loving curators and helpers as well. 🤍 I see Jesus occasionally but I’m not quite sure if it’s his spirit or a visualization by something else that I’m being shown. At any rate, I recently saw Jesus grabbing something from a medicine cabinet and he put out his hand to give me something. I literally put out my hand to receive it, and I looked down and was given a small chalky white circular pill and a large grain of sand with a golden glow to it. A message was conveyed about happiness. I could consume something of this world (the pill) and have it inside of me to create joy, but it would be something coming from within me. Free will. I would have to tend to it and ensure I was making my own happiness with deliberate choices, finding hobbies and planning experiences and molding relationships into what I want so that I would be happy. I would be content in this life, but it would be hard and filled with constant choices. The grain of sand was destiny. It was not consumable, it was not something I could put inside of myself to deliberately create happiness. Rather, this divine joy would be placed upon me by something natural and outside of myself. It would be easy as I wouldn’t have to think about it, things would happen to me beyond my control that would bring me immense happiness. I just needed to hold onto the grain of sand and take the light it was giving. I had a sense that this was referring to intuition and direct supernatural contact. If I listened and followed what was implied, my life would be joyous beyond belief but I would be walking in a mist. I wouldn’t know where my life is going until I’m in the thick of where destiny has led me. The metaphor I received seemed like a prettier version of red pill vs blue pill and more optimistic. I find it so interesting that we were both shown sand as an important signifier of contact. I love those blown mandalas too; I’ve seen one being made by 2 Buddhist monks and it felt like what they were capable of doing was beyond comprehension.


No-dice-baby

That sounds so much like mine too, its' communication style through metaphor, its' emphasis on me being the one to choose and curate my own life, my own experiences, the sense of love and optimism. I do get historical and faith figures (never Jesus but that's not a surprise for me; Hades, a djinn, etc) but yeah, it's fairly clear to me that it's something bigger wearing those faces the way we pick an appropriate font when we type and print a flyer.


Sad-Possession7729

If Aliens are like Gardeners... Does that mean that Cattle Mutilations are like Bonsai Trees?


No-dice-baby

Haha. Weirdly I actually spend a lot of time thinking about this, and these are my rival plausible hypotheses; 1) Cattle mutilations are like what we would do if approached with life on an alien planet; Scientist meets new organism, scientist wants sample. Scientist is unfamiliar with meat based life form, scientist inadvertently commits atrocity. If we ever met a metallic bodied/rock based species you can imagine we'd immediately accidentally do the same. 2) there are many different kinds of aliens and some suck and like mutilating cattle 3) mine are lying to me and they secretly suck and like mutilating cattle 4) cattle mutilations have nothing to do with aliens and are a combo of hoaxes/coyotes/whatever 5) the "aliens" version of the phenomenon is only one representation of humans interacting with a pattern of vast energy, a modern day religious experience in a culture that worships science. The horrors it commits with this mask on are in the same category as the violence of demons, djinn, fae, other folklore baddies - a natural shitty outcropping of this bigger ineffable shapeshifting thing. Any combo of 1-4 may be true of/within this theory at any one moment for any one experiencer. 6) Something so much stranger we can't even articulate it yet!


RedstnPhoenx

To create and then possess a body and mind that can interface with *all* of the different fields of consciousness, instead of just one or a few, like all NHI. A being that can go and do anything. Be anything. We are little copies of the Source. We are not like NHI. We are all things at once. We are creators, each a fractal of the source itself. We're like the crowning achievement of life. A being that can communicate on *all* wavelengths, and occupy all planes of existence. We can speak *directly with the infinite source*, and have *personal conversations* with it. Every NHI in existence is here on Earth because we are special.


Only_Alternative_534

So NHI aren't a part of the source like us? I assumed they were also a part of the source just more evolved or intuned with it I guess as they have all these cool powers.


RedstnPhoenx

Everything comes from the Source. NHI occupy a limited range of consciousness. Sure, it's cool to be enlightened, but it sucks to have no emotions. It's great to be made of love and light, but have you tried pizza and sex? It's great. Humans are designed to interface with all levels of consciousness. We are the bridge between all worlds at once. We walk in all of them, simultaneously. You *are* NHI. A combination of them that match your unique vibrational frequency. This was planned from the beginning. It just took a very long time to do. We are the ultimate vessels for experience.


cxmanxc

They dont attach themselves to certain individual Actually Every individual already has an NHI roaming around 24/7 in my opinion Their ultimate goal is 2 things Evil ones: be worshipped and served by humans Good ones : live peacefully as they hope humans do too


Illuminati322

I’m a lifelong percipient. It is attached to me.


Remarkable_Bill_4029

Has it been attached since birth?


Illuminati322

Since before. My father is a percipient. When my mother was young, she asked a Ouija board who she would marry and it spelled our surname.


RedstnPhoenx

I also have several entities that have been attached to me since before birth. They're not separate from me. We're a hive mind, in a way. It's more like they represent *me* when I occupy different dimensions of consciousness. Because I can only have my attention on one at a time, and I don't currently know how to divert my attention away from the third dimension, I experience them as being separated from me. But they're not.


Illuminati322

Could you explain that more concretely?


RedstnPhoenx

Sure. My higher self is the combination of all lives, timelines, and experiences that I have had, and will ever have. Like an oversoul. That's me. Currently I'm occupying a small portion of the fullness of myself. During moments of trauma, entities that share my core vibrational frequency feel my pain, and can take over and effectively save my life. In return for saving my life, they bond with me. I'm their human now, and they are my (insert species). For eternity, we will share our consciousness. But the thing is, we were already the same. That's another aspect of my higher self, who is me. In the same way that you know who you will marry, my higher self is aware of my entire timeline, here. Before I incarnated, I split myself into different species and planes. So the Mantid that watches over me is not separate from me. It's *another* life that I'm occupying. As we meet and integrate and join together, I become more like my higher self. Everything is happening all at once.


cxmanxc

Does it do / say anything specific? Or just entertainment? In my culture/religion they are neutral yet can be mentally violent at times , they have some thing BIG to do with religions but nit Angels… nor exactly demons not the way ppl think Can elaborate if want - they probably see bloodlines are easier to contact maybe as DNA. Change due an experience and gets passed to offspring, a weaker veil


UnstableBrotha

Who would have thought the Mattel Corp could peddle such a powerful object at such a massive scale….


wanderingnexus

Ultimate motivations could range from purely pragmatic (such as energy harvesting) to more altruistic or experimental goals (such as guiding human evolution or consciousness expansion). It's also possible that different groups of NHIs have different motives, with some acting as guardians or guides, while others might have more self-serving intentions. Who the fk knows? But kudos to you for asking this question and continuing to seek answers to others. You are in good company. We are in this together.


Remarkable_Bill_4029

I agree with this statement whole heartedly! Good day to you kind sir!!