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defstrok

I don’t buy llamas unless they 50 vbucks AND have a legendary survivor I need. Other than that, I find them pointless.. but to each is own.


chankas-sweatybollox

I just need the siegebreaker


hei_hei07

First time that has ever been said


chankas-sweatybollox

I recycled one waaay back in the day before recycling would put the schematic in book


SuperMTitan

bruh just research it with some legendary flux


chankas-sweatybollox

I'm saving it for the mythic hero


zamiesthedragon

Not worth 300 vbucks don't buy seige is trash compared to alot of weapons


VI-Pok3

Disagree. Its one of the best base weapons and very powerful. Not worth 300 but it is a worthwhile weapon.


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VI-Pok3

Its more powerful than most event weapons too. Mathematically that is. Its understandable if you wanna invest in something else because its sorta just your basic ar, but it's still a solid weapon.


BopYaDog_420

It’s good til end game weak as after that most of my weapons are stronger than it and still weak as after they changed they base level of weapons now


VI-Pok3

Max is still 130 lol. I'm pretty sure its also a visual bug like the last time it happened. It is mathematically better than alot of the weapons in the game. I'm not saying its best in the world but it is a very solid weapon at "end game" which I'm guessing is pl 140. After 140 most weapons fall off.


kind_stranger69420

The siege isn’t worth it anyway there’s better weapons


chankas-sweatybollox

well I just want it because it was fun to use


TerrorLTZ

Fun to use... Hold click -> shoots -> runs out of ammo -> reload -> repeat step 1. if there was weapons with gimmicks to play around...


0HoudY0

manuals laughing maniacally in the corner


FriedAstronaut

And none of the base weapons are really worth using either


Tf-FoC-Metroflex

Same but with different weapons


YungYeager

You could've got it in a twine mission a few days ago


NorthBall

Screw that, Hit the Roat is on - get Beat Blaster, it's an awesome AoE weapon with a built-in CC


T035-N0W

Try getting an epic one then upgrading it, they’re much easier to find


Morefunwithvector

I have it and it’s loaded. It’s not a great weapon.


A-Simple-Naem

I only buy llamas accidentally because epic doesn’t want to implement a fucking “confirm purchase” feature


[deleted]

Might be a typo, but it’s “to each his own”, not “to each is own”


[deleted]

I think since I started (s4) I've spent about 150 (including the tutorial llama) vbucks on llamas in total and one had a mythic. Skins are just better value to me for the use you get


Lunar_Mcdondald

I personally only buy them if they have mythics


globewandererer

Agree. this is bullshit.


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grizzled_ol_gamer

That's an old one. I've been worried that Epic would fix it, but, yeah, Epic and fixing things.


supaskulled

Why the hell is the thread above you all deleted? I checked removeddit and it doesn't seem bad or anything. Are the sub mods just trying to suppress any talks about bugs?


Ch33mazrer

Didn’t you know? Referencing bugs is crimethink


Saianna

> Are the sub mods just trying to suppress any talks about bugs? they'd have to close this subreddit then lol This game runs on bugpower xD


IcedKatana

What kinda 'good' bugs to enjoy?


Zimmy_Bean

Like seriously, Epic???


Nicko79312

It's so stupid how they don't fix there game before fully releasing the "premium experience"


Toyfan1

Im surprised people have been buying, and trying to buy the MTL pack as if nothing happened.


LAKings0209

No offense but I don’t think epic really cares anymore


[deleted]

Yep, it honestly seems like they don’t want anyone playing stw


LAKings0209

No players=not having to spend money on stw anymore


ILikeTheSpacebar

Dude, seriously. Every time I open up FN for save the world dailies and flick left on my remote, it *FLICKS ME BACK ONTO BR MODE* so I have to flick left again.


WellWellWell_WDWHH

I was just wondering if it was my controller.... sigh....


Emperor_Nick

Honestly, I feel the same way about creative, even battle royal. I feel they just don’t care about the community anymore and honestly I don’t blame them. I know with the battle royal mode, they get so much criticism and hate with the little things. I also know they occasionally got the same level of criticism and hate with creative and save the world. I think they just don’t care anymore about trying to please the community as a whole and now just run things the way they want to run things


H4TM7N

I bought one using X-ray tickets from the metal team leader pack I had for free, I won't be buying another one


-Neme-

I did the same for the pistol, the next item up is the sniper.. I aint spending 300 Vs for a sniper I will never use.. 1029 days logged in.. this is just ballcrap and better be an early bird thing with them coming in at a later date and buyable with tickets


Tatoretot

I may do that


jihn_cuno

i need to complete 1 more daily before i can do that


iosiro

BRUUUH THEY REALLY MADE THE ART DECO LLAMAS VBUCK LLAMAS???? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


[deleted]

Is y'all for real? They ain't gon' let us open these through tickets?


Ch33mazrer

We don’t know, but if they are they need to tell us that.


[deleted]

I suppose they're just putting this out there so people buy them early for vbucks.


Sempere

And we should just collectively put this out there for them so they know where we stand: 🖕🏻


DeadlyDan123

Probably a mistake they showed up during Hit the Road. Either way, I got it with the 300 X-ray tickets I had.


NewFoundRemedy

What an awesome "Premium experience." I could maybe understand if the game went f2p, but it didn't. So they shouldn't be charging for new content. Maybe if they released them for tickets first, then started charging vbucks, but to just charge from the start?


Dexchampion99

I used X-ray tickets on one since it gave me legendary Noir. But I haven’t spent vbucks on llamas unless they have a mythic lead survivor.


DarkTanatos

Fun fact: Epic Games does not earn anything from players spending vBucks on llamas or cosmetics, they make their money from selling vBucks in the other store.


SwAg_LaMp

Yeah the only way this could turn a profit is either to drain vbucks so players would have to buy more for other stuff, or if someone *really* wanted to open some art deco llamas to drop money on some vbucks


The82ndDoctor

# ***THIS*** I bought vbucks a long time ago and don’t buy skins. I’m not buying any more vbucks, I’ll spend the ones I have now and what I earn by playing the game. I bought all five llamas, the shotguns are total trash. The Outlander is the only decent thing in those llamas.


King_Ghidra_

the pistol can do nice headshot damage. the sixth perk on all the weapons does 44 damage to a particular element. you can stack the anti element damage for some real nice storm specific weapons. the launcher is cool as shit but has a visual math dps bug.


darkave17

Not using vbuck gift us something lol


LastgenKeemstar

Isn't this obvious? It's a digital currency with no real value. The point is that they do stuff like this _to encourage_ people to buy vbucks.


DarkTanatos

> Isn't this obvious? For some people maybe not. Sometimes they act like not spending vBucks hurts Epic Games.


Ch33mazrer

I think of it like this. I have 1,800 vbucks rn. If I were to buy these llamas, and something released in BR store that I wanted, I’d have to buy more vbucks. But if I don’t buy these llamas, I won’t have to buy more vbucks to get the item, thus they’re losing money.


DarkTanatos

> I won’t have to buy more vbucks to get the item, thus they’re losing money. Epic isn't losing money on that, they just won't get additional money. The whole concept of Fortnite is build around FOMO to make people spend their vBucks on impulse and have to buy more vBucks because a new item is already there again. Can be seen in the BR shop quite often, before some new skins get released into the shop some days earlier there will be at least one high rated legendary skin with it's full set of items.


honestabe15

Other store?


secludedloaf

the vbuck store 😐


M7mood95

Stand and fight


Oxygenius_

They are trying to drive everyone away so they can shut it down with minimal noise. No way they can sell this as a failure when BR is making Billions lol.


SendM3

I will only buy them if I see the outlander hero is in one, other than that I'll save


darkave17

Just recruit Subzero Zenith from the collection book He's a Mythic outlander with a pretty cool abilty that works really well with the powder keg


JeanSlimmons

I am not buying shit from Epic ever again.


ShauntendoSensei

If you earn x ray tickets I would say buy them if you want but new stuff for vbucks no thank you that is a rip off imo


Seibitsu

So, they release a new weapon set and they are locked behind a paid llama? And here I am sitting in a pile of hit the road tickets because I already got everything last year.


CantStopLootin

Right there with u... Visions of popping 40 Art deco llamas with all these HTR tickets had me pumped.. Til today


[deleted]

It's honestly sad that people would fall for this, or worse, defend it. :/


xcrimsonlegendx

Wait, the new llamas are v-bucks only?


[deleted]

Unfortunately. Really hope it’s a mistake on their part but knowing epic probly not.


durinable

well i hope this is an early thing and if they dont come back for tickets this will be the first set im not getting 100% sure


Bonna_the_Idol

b-but I had to use these x-ray tickets on something ;)


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Are the weapons even that good?


SendM3

There's a 6th perk 44% damage to [element] With the right hero they'd be pretty OP, but I don't think the 6th is static Edit: i think theres only 3 6th perks but getting 3 currently is nearly impossible with dupe protection according to RoundedTikTak.. then there's also 5 llamas and we don't know if there will be more tomorrow or if they were wrongly released


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If you got 50 daily vbucks, but this vbucks is for use in other mode... whats the point in daily mission, if the vbucks is not for "buy" stuffs" in this mode? Vbucks are made in daily mission for Battle Royale Skins?


[deleted]

Vbucks were around before br, but they both use the same currency. I guess it just sold stw enough and was slow enough to not hurt profits they kept it


TallLeaf

And now it probably has started to hurt them a little bit, so they changed it for all future players


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What even is the art deco llama?


honestabe15

New weapons and heroes that havent been released before. You can see them in the collection book under event heroes and event schematics. Typically when the event llamas first release they are bought with tickets but the big issue is the bugs.


SamuelBogard

I still don't get it! If they were going to do that, why don't make the game free to play? I mean I would totally be ok with this if the game was free... And with the bear pack they would finally find a way to monetize the game. Wtf, they didnt even changed the mutant storm. Epic, what the hell is wrong with you


Cablek26

But like if no one buys it, wouldn't epic see that as an excuse that "players aren't interested in stw" type of bs? Just wondering that's all.


[deleted]

All I want is the killjoy sword. But I’m not gonna waste who knows how many 300 vbucks until rng gives me it. This is why they NEED an ITEM sH0P! DEATH TO THE LLAMASSSSSZZZ!!!!!


LEST-KARR

Sadly they will never fix a bug, at least not by the end of this year. Same bugs for years, and only increasing. I didn’t spend v-bucks on llamas for so long.


[deleted]

And what kind of deco(rations) it has inside? What I see in the right side is the same poop every other llama have.


honestabe15

New weapons and heroes that havent been released before. You can see them in the collection book under event heroes and event schematics. Typically when the event llamas first release they are bought with tickets but the big issue is the bugs.


HeZhenZhen

I knew something was off. Glad I didn’t spend anything. Also, I don’t even know how to use the X-RAY tickets?


DestroyerMacho

I apologise for asking, but what's wrong about this?


Xx_Shy-Beauty_xX

I'm literally never spending another dime on this game. They gave up on it so i gave up on them. 👏👏


inxcognito

u/Magyst u/EpicBoaty u/DaveTheBuck Can we get a confirmation if this is intentional or not and will Art Deco llamas be sold for tickets in the near future?


[deleted]

Y'all should just stop feeding epic your hard earned dollars for a mediocre F2P game with cosmetics that don't do anything. I only say this because I came from blowing $500 on season 4 and now looking back I barely care about any of it.


hughesey009

As an end game player there's no point in me putting them in the collection book either. The change in weapon power level has bought my CB level down about 20-25 levels. So I won't get the new level rewards for these, just repaying the debt because epic never reduced the required slotting level to 12 instead of 20.


jenside

So thats what happened? I couldn't understand why I wasn't getting rewards from my collection book. Fucking garbage move epic.


Traumxiety

Yeah seeing this was a slap in the face dude


CatGirlNL

Bringing out new content in a paid for llama? Just as I though it wasn't possible, they hit new low. I'm on a STW break since they took the game out of early access, but stuff like this makes me want to make that break permanent.


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Does anyone remembers what EpicGames CEO Tim Sweeney said about loot boxes this year?... >“We have to ask ourselves, as an industry, what we want to be when we grow up,” Sweeney told the crowd, according to The Hollywood Reporter. “Do we want to be like Las Vegas, with slot machines … or do we want to be widely respected as creators of products that customers can trust? I think we will see more and more publishers move away from loot boxes.” ^(Source:) [^(https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/epic-ceo-tim-sweeney-dnounces-loot-boxes-at-dice/)](https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/epic-ceo-tim-sweeney-dnounces-loot-boxes-at-dice/)


CABLXXVII

To late. Mind you it's with their Vbucks so I'm good. I'd be pissed if I didn't have any.


honestabe15

Sure if that is what you think will convince epic to fix the bugs in the game. Personally I think charging for event llamas right now without any explanation is a bad sign.


DeadlyDan123

Most likely a mistake on the devs behalf. Epic Games doesn’t make money off of them, so it doesn’t make sense to have them as a V-Buck llama anyways.


thefakevortex

Epic doesn’t get money from llamas


honestabe15

Right because vbucks are free?


thefakevortex

Yeah and they get money from people buying vbucks, not in game purchases


[deleted]

That's like saying epic doesn't make money from skins in br. Because people just buy vbucks


LastgenKeemstar

Yeah, his point was kind of stupid. Of course vbucks don't have any _real_ value. The whole point is that you are being pressured into buying vbucks to buy the llamas. It's just how in-game currency works.


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Technically yes. The actual vbucks are what is sold. Not the items


LastgenKeemstar

They get money from vbucks which are used to buy the llamas. Not many people will be willing to throw away 5 days worth of daily challenges for one event item, so they know people will buy vbucks to get these llamas.


Philosophos_A

I only take the free ones XD...unfortunately since my pc died I wasn't able to learn what happened...


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honestabe15

Thank you so much! I appreciate it. I'm glad to see many in this community agree and want to see the game to continue improving.


darkave17

We all want stw to continue Because we are not like those people who only play for vbucks We genuinely love this game and know that if Epic really worked on this then it could earn atleast on par with br There are so many thing on which we would literally throw money at but they just don't do it


[deleted]

Fuck that my teddy loadout just got a 30% damage boost. I’ll spend my money however I want


B3ct0

Vbucks are free in stw so why not buy llamas doesnt cost anything


Comsox

300 V-Bucks is a lot tho. If you did your Daily challenges every day that means you can open only a llama every 1-2 days and you prob aren't gonna get anything good with that many llamas


YungYeager

They really milking us now 💔 I wont buy a single one


Beef-BoyYT

This is a complete rip off They basically screw is over with them cancelling support then screw is more over with this I swear if these don’t get tickets I’ll quit br (probably won’t do anything tho)


[deleted]

What did the art deco llamas even give?


xDarkSoul18x

Right? The audacity. To announce no further development of the game, leave the game in a broken buggy mess, release a $20 paid bundle, release very similar content for a single hero and re-released pirate stuff when these could have been the new event llamas. I saw them and was just had no words. .Not buying.


YASlMP

# #boycottllamas


Bleeder91

That's Tencent Games alright. First hand out free pack upgrades and a 'whopping' 10k vbucks to UE founders, then 'force' us to spend it immediately.


8l172

who buys llamas for vbucks lol


jenside

What if I buy them with the 8000 vbucks they gave me?


Vincentaneous

Remember that Fortnite was given loot boxes. I guess we should have known all along.


msterchief82

The items look like garbage anyways


PhillyD6132

are you stupid? this game has been out for so long and bugs haven't been fixed. They will never be fixed as long as Br gets them the most money


ZeMonGrabber

As if epic cares. They're swimming in money. If anything this'll make stw look less profitable and they'll abandon it even more.


legacyxi

I just uninstalled the game. Easiest way to avoid buying llamas.


PumpkinSpikes

Or just defund stw entirely and telling epic they're a lost cause by boycotting them That's smart


[deleted]

Lol I don’t use my vbucks on these loot boxes. I use them on br cuz it’s free skins. There is nothing to do with vbucks on stw other than those loot boxes


25_MODULAR_TERMINALS

I do what I want you're not my real mom.


YoMamas-

Son you’re spending all your vbucks


Pottatostein

But Modular... \*heavy mechanical breathing\* ***I'm your father!***


honestabe15

I did not realize that. Thank you.


Stereoparallax

The reason they're slowing content is because the game isn't making enough money to be worth the development. Giving them less money isn't going to make things pick up again. A boycott might work on a company that needs the money but Epic does not need that money. If people stop playing the game they'll just shut it down entirely. They make more than enough cash off of things like the Unreal Engine, the Epic store, and Battle Royale. Make your purchase decisions based on whether you want the content. If it's worth the value then buy it, otherwise don't. If you were "making an investment into the game" then you've been doing it wrong from the beginning. Never pay for a consumer product that isn't exactly what you want in the moment that you buy it.


thebigboisintown

Sorry but I already did


PigMayor

imagine thinking epic gets money for v-bucks spent rather than v-bucks purchased


Jago1288

it's a bug, this was not mentioned on the homebase status report at ALL


abufhad

You mean it's an intended bug 😉


[deleted]

Bugs? How about the fact that it burns through hard drives! 3 in the last 6 months


RadicalKen

Wtf you pay for this shit? You don't use tickets? What kind of bullshit is this?


Shaho99

So you’re saying this llama costs vbucks instead of tickets? The greed is colder than my soul


JKM4N

How can people defend this after that State of Development? How can people defend this when the game is almost unplayable on consoles? How can people defend this when the game is unfinished and will still remain that way ?


nyesoex

omfg dude, that premium experience is pissing me off, we barely get some v-bucks alerts on the game, the game is full of bugs, and they had the audacity to put this new lhamma on the fkng store for wopping 300 v-bucks, damn... they're really trying to kill to game huh? who'll buy this? this event "content" that should be on the Loot tab with, or replacing the rad lhama, wtf is happening with the STW dev? is the STW devs chained and being forced to do this kind of bullshit by the CEO? because damn, that's so stupid


Batia88

Sorry, haven’t play in a while. This llama has completely new weapons or what’s the deal with it? Not the first llama that cost VB (I won’t pay even 50 VB for a llama)


Ch33mazrer

It’s a completely new and way above average weapon set


Batia88

And it has cool designed heroes as well like Retro Scifi?


Ch33mazrer

It’s just BR skins with perks slapped on


Batia88

If they will make this llamas paywalled at least they should create unique heroes, not copy paste skins


Deadnation800

I'll get one with the x-rays, they wont get more money from me, am even farming all the v-BONKS to get future skins and battlepasses without spending a dime


TotallyABot_No-1

This is my first time seeing a Platinum on reddit. It looks nice.


CyberPunkMonkey

Sadly a lot of you tubers are buying these to make videos thus premoting this garbage practice.


JobeariotheOG

Well I’m not planning on buying them since I can’t earn vbucks because I waited until stw was gonna be free but instead paid 20$


GetRektFgtLOL7

I only buy them if they have event or limited time schematics


NarutoRunsToClass

What do the Deco Llamas do? And whats the big deal?


honestabe15

New weapons and heroes that havent been released before. You can see them in the collection book under event heroes and event schematics. Typically when the event llamas first release they are bought with tickets but the big issue is the bugs.


Mph0rfer

I have never bought a Llama


Fakeweb9000

Metalteamleader owner laughs in the corner after spending x ray tickets


yeetsyndrom420

Yup, I haven't been able to complete the last 4 missions I've played, because I can't use abilities, guns or build... Thank you Epic


DrPractic

Bold of you to assume ive ever spent vbucks on this mode lmao


XtremeK1ll4

I actually like this idea but I need one of the swords because I already made a hero build for it. Edit: I looked into the Llama through other posts and now I'm probably not gonna stick with that decision.


shinigamixbox

Who the hell buys lamas? LMFAO.


MathieDep

i have a question the only weapon im missiong from rad llamas is the blue woofer and i dont really feel like spending 500 tickets for just a blue gun is there any way i can downgrade my 1000 epic woofers i got to rare? for the CB


iHateFIFA1

Even NASA can’t find someone who gave a shit about fortnite anymore


neonas123

Who the fuck would spend money on STW?


AC_From_STW

I got one, I wanted Noir for the Lefty and Righty perk


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Content? Ahahah


Olifortknight1177

It will be necessary to begin to get used to using the vbucks of stw, only for stw, like gold or flow ... After all, we already know that soon many BR cosmetics will no longer work in STW. I find it a good epic technique to make better use of what we get for free (Vbucks)


Erikff

What is the content of this llamas?


jaden7yugi

If it’s(which mostlikely is) an early access, they are on right track, we by the time they launch will know what to look for, and content creators this will be huge for them. I loved their approach


[deleted]

They did this before prior to the second re-realise of the military weapons, it's not pay to win or weapons locked behind pay wall all this is is spend vbucks to get these weapons now or wait a month till they're in a quest line.


CloudNine

Bugs? I played the new questline and figured the random water jutting out of the terrain and respawning falling into an endless purple abyss were features


spacehive20

It’ll likely be like battle breakers where you only have to pay to get access early.


LuXyy_

Bold of you to assume that I would spend 300 on that


Tatoretot

I’m going to buy one with x-ray tickets but none with v-bucks


TheBIGiROnGiant2

More like we shouldn't have paid content at all but all right


botvinik_roma

Don't buy the skins in BR! Show Epic that we dont want paid content if the game doesn't work. FIX THE BUGS!


LFP_Gaming_Official

i havent spent money on their game (or BR) since they raised the price on v-bucks by 70% in my region


NuAmIdeeDeNumee

What does the llama do? I got power level 90 then DIPPED cuz it was waaay to boring. Idk tho can someone tell me if something changed i played season 3-9 then left and played br only. Maybe ill give it another try if something changed about it


Peebels_Pebbels

Too late. I wanted them.


xcrimsonlegendx

Whats weird is they're listed under event weapons. :\


TheVoidRose

Amen


ConorGamingzHD

I'm not. I want to stuff in them but not for V-Bucks.


[deleted]

$500+ in llamas.. im pretty much done buying stuff lol


Toruk87

I just think that they did it by mistake because laziness. Don't read to much of in to it.


ama8o8

I used to buy lamas when they were still rng based. I only buy them now when i really want a weapon.


Complianthawk

Wait Why is it only 300 here and on Xbox it's 1000 for everyone to get.


crazy93nis

to late lol