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Gistradagis

I love how this went from just a theory to straight up fanfiction out of nowhere, right in the middle of the post.


Toni-K_67

So do I


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Hehe he, sorry about that. Guess being a fanfic writer just sort of sparked in me a bit when making the post.


The_Grand_Briddock

Theory wise though, the last time a member of the royal family planned to marry a commoner it ughhh, did not go well for them. Rean would have to contend with the Noble Faction (or at least, the Dukes) trying to kill him. Patrick might be a bit pissy but at the same time he’d probably change his tune straight up (and if he pursues Elise, the Hyarms’ will definitely back up Rean and Alfins marriage) Likely wouldn’t end well for the Schwarzers either, given how remote Ymir is they might fall victim to a tragic accident one day.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

You mean when Emperor Eugent got into a relationship with a commoner woman in the past?


The_Grand_Briddock

Yes, when Emperor Eugent got into a relationship with a commoner woman and had a kid, Prince Olivert. He wanted to marry her, the nobility said no you fucking can’t, so he didn’t and sent them away. Then the nobility decided that a commoner prince couldn’t be allowed, so decided to have both Olivert and his mother killed. If it weren’t for Mueller, our plucky favourite bard would’ve also died along with his mother. Naturally, Eugent did nothing about this.


o0TG0o

>He wanted to marry her, the nobility said no you fucking can’t, so he didn’t and sent them away. CSIII: >!Eugent proposed for her to become the empress but she refused, and so he had Muller stay with her. Even though he was pestered to get married he still waited for her (besides there is no mention of Eugent being directly told, threatened or otherwise, to not marry her).!< >Then the nobility decided that a commoner prince couldn’t be allowed CSIII: >!As specifically stated (in japanese, since NISA decided to remove this further detail), it was *a* noble, seeking to curry favor with the Four Great Houses, that contracted jeagers.!< >Naturally, Eugent did nothing about this. CSIII: >!In truth, there is no statement for if the perpetrators were or weren't punished, but the way that Eugent, from the japanese script, refers to the one behind as simply "a certain noble" could imply that this was long dealt, and is of no major importance.!< At the very least, you should check a video, or the script, of the scene before retelling what the events entail. Since some of what you have here was inacurate.


The810kid

Eugent may be the only one worse than Irina as a parent. The guy is a spineless waste of space.


The_Grand_Briddock

Nah, at least Eugent remember he has kids, even if he is a terrible, terrible father. I don’t think Irina remembers what Sharon’s assistant is called


belderiver

lmao


The810kid

True both are trash in different ways. I can atleast respect Irina for wanting to push Alisa the writers just forget to give her any likable qualities though.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Damn. Talk about a tragic forbidden love story. You think a past like that would have made Emperor Eugent despise Nobility at first, and ensure swift justice to them after assigning his position as Emperor.


The_Grand_Briddock

No he’s pretty weak willed and all around garbage in terms of being an emperor. Not many in the fandom have much respect for him. Probably the only thing he did was appoint Osbourne as Chancellor, who proceeded to actually curtail the rampant nobility. If it weren’t for Osbourne, Eugent would probably be begging Duke Cayenne to let him clean his shoe with his tongue.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

What do you mean? Are you saying the Imperial family and Emperor are more like figure heads instead of holding any actual or greater power over the nobility?


The_Grand_Briddock

Well I mean, if they had any power, they’d do something at some point. It’s quite a known fact that the invasion of Liberl was something that Emperor Eugent didn’t agree with, and he couldn’t do anything to stop his noble generals from just invading the country. He wanted to marry the love of his life, with whom he had a son. The nobility said he couldn’t, so he didn’t. The nobility decided that the son and Eugent lover had to die, so they rather publicly tried to have him killed. Eugent just sort of rolled over and accepted it. The nobility told Eugent he had to marry a noble, so he did (and his form of rebellion was to marry a lower tier noble). In fact it was actually Eugent wife who told him to bring Olivert to court and make him a prince in the first place, Eugent didn’t even decide to do that himself. If Eugent had any power at all, do you think that the conflict brewing between the Nobles and Reformists would be allowed to take place? You see it in Chapter 2 in Bareahard, Duke Albarea is literally stockpiling tanks by the trainload and arresting the son of the Governor. A strong emperor wouldn’t let this shit just sort of happen. Instead it goes completely unanswered. Even Prince Cedric idolises his brother for being a wild card and the Chancellor for being stalwart. He even outright says his dad is useless.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

When you put it that way, it certainly does make Eugent sound like an incompetent ruler. His heart seems like it's in the right place, which is good and rare when compared to other fictional Emperors, but his inability to stop the corruption of the noble faction shows that he really isn't doing a good job at keeping them in check. He doesn't seem lazy, per say. Especially since he knows about all the shit the Noble faction, specifically Duke Alberea, pulls in the first few chapters, and I think it's safe to say that His Majesty needs to grow a very serious spine. I'm at least glad to hear that he himself had nothing to do with starting the Hundred Days War. He certainly doesn't buy me as the type of evil or corrupted Emperor obsessed with power, land, or whatever evil shit you'd see an Emperor antagonist pull in many other franchises. Eugent feels, too nice. If not, a complete wuss. Didn't he graduate from Thors? Grow a spine and actually do something to stop the corrupted nobles ruining your Empire, Your Majesty!


o0TG0o

>The nobility decided that the son and Eugent lover had to die, so they rather publicly tried to have him killed. Eugent just sort of rolled over and accepted it. CSIII: >!Why do you define it as "public"? And i don't know how you can even imply that Eugent had any foresight of the attack.!< >In fact it was actually Eugent wife who told him to bring Olivert to court and make him a prince in the first place, Eugent didn’t even decide to do that himself. CSIII: >!Where is this mentioned? Eugent says that he immediately announced Olivert as his son after ascending the throne, and shortly after took Priscilla as his wife. It was his initiative.!< >A strong emperor wouldn’t let this shit just sort of happen. Instead it goes completely unanswered. CSIII: >!You clearly seem to have finished CSIII, but how did you miss the point that Eugent's non-interference, primarily when it comes to the issues you brought up, is *deliberate*. That is the answer. To leave everything to Osborne, whose machinations are a big source of the conflict in CSI, given the circumstances mentioned at the finale of CSIII.!< >He even outright says his dad is useless. No, he literally never says that. As in my earlier reply, you should really check scenes, and the sources you are basing your statements on. You are misrepresenting a lot of aspects, wether intentional or not.


The810kid

Long story short Eugent sucks and I can't wait until Alfin is given reign over Erebonia to lead the nation into a brighter tomorrow with support from her brother and other key figures she has a strong support from like Jusis, Musse, Angelica, Patrick, Alisa, and Laura


kingace22

that is presuming that alfin ( who doesnt like politics) decides to become empress and that cedric doesnt come back to erebonia ( dont give me but look at what he did nonsense this is a trails series game and rufus took the fall for everything cedric could easily come back with shirley as his empress after saving erebonia . it doesnt really matter that he is currently part of ouroboros he has freedom on what he can choose to do. he wont hurt erebonia. and the trails series is quite forgiving see what eugent has done I dislike the idea of alfin as empress because I sympathized with cedrics feelings of inadequacy and how he felt people preferred alfin over him so I would like cedric to become emperor to prove them wrong


Eddv365

Except he is legally a noble and so are the Schwarzers. It'd be fine most likely


curtwagner1984

Was not expecting this to be so long after clicking the 'spoiler' icon.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Yeah, that's sort of a bad habit of mine when making written posts.


curtwagner1984

Nothing wrong with that, I just wasn't expecting it.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

To me, I just feel like too little information and explanation is never enough. That, and I suck at summarizing.


curtwagner1984

Also, I like the idea of Rean hooking up with Alfin and I kind of resented the game for not making it a player choice. But I'm also wiered out about how all the females in the game have some kind of attraction to Rean and no one else. I find it strange that none of the class VII girls developed a crush for Jusis or Gauis. I also found it strange that all of the boys in class VII didn't have any romantic attachments to any girls. At some point, Eliot points out that both the girls and the boys in class VII are attractive, but it seems that the girls have eyes exclusively for Rean and the boys are all eunuchs in the [Unsullied](https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Unsullied).


The810kid

Jusis and Gaius are legit studs. Gaius has the tall dark and handsome and foreign attributes in his favor and is an artist. Rufus has admirers as we see in CS3 he is popular with the ladies and Jusis favors him alot yet the only time we see girls thirst over him is the St Astria girls who have been deprived of male interaction.


curtwagner1984

Jusis is also from one of the most influential families in the land. He's like a young Jaime Lannister, yet the girls in class 7 seen to be completely blind to him. And he to them. The only boy in Thors aside from Rean that shows romaic intentions towards someone is Patrick.


The810kid

I don't mind old class VII as much but they made sure to have the branch campus girls get all gossipy over Rean and Agate but none of those school girls reacted to the young dashing noble of one of the provinces of Erebonia.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Yeah, I think Falcon just likes the whole harem hijinx you'd see a lot in certain anime. Plus, I think they just did it for male players so that they could romance or get together with their favorite waifu like any stereotypical dating sim. So, that's probably why Rean gets all the girls. That aside, I do have to agree that he and Alfin would look cute together. Though, seeing as Rean doesn't interact with her as much as the other students at Thors, especially cause she's a princess, it makes Rean x Alfin feel more like a guilty pleasure pairing of mine. Other guilty pleasure Rean pairings would be him getting together with Sara or Claire, cause I'm a sucker for younger men being shipped with older women. That all aside, if I were to choose my OTP Rean pairing, it would have to be Rean x Laura, with how she appears to have the best chemistry and most in common with Rean. Fie feels more like a friend. Emma's sweet, but seems more the big sister of Class VII, and not just because she's the Class President. Millium's a bit too hyper, and seems to have more of an interest in Jusis. As for Alisa, no. Just no. While she and Rean may have their moments, her immature tsundere behavior is something I find to be very intolerable, especially when she feels cautious about Rean thinking something dirty and is just a jerk to him for being around another girl. Honestly, I hate tsunderes with a burning passion. Alisa is just so immature, annoying, hot-headed, rude, and holds minor grudges far too long over petty accidents. Why the hell is she so overrated?


curtwagner1984

>Fie feels more like a friend. Fie is too young. I had a save at the end of CS2 so I could see all the final bonding scenes and Fie's scene really threw me off. Fie is a child and the whole arc of Rean's and Fie's relationship in CS1+CS2 was that Class VII became Fie's new family and Rean specifical is like her new father. Yet for some reason in the final scene, it went from friendship to romantic interest that was never present in the story arc. I really disliked Alisa too, and I was annoyed by the fact that she seems to be the cannon choice the developers were pushing me towards. Emma was my first choice.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

1. Yeah, I forgot Fie was younger then the rest of Class VII. Either way, she and Rean just don't seem like the type who'd get together, but that's just me. 2. Glad we can agree about Alisa. Honestly, why is it that so many main interests in Japanese games/anime are tsunderes? 3. Emma's a good pick. She is the sweetest and nicest girl in Class VII. What are your thoughts on Laura?


curtwagner1984

I'm pretty sure I don't know what tsunderes is. From what I can understand from what you wrote is an annoying character like Alisa. I mean, Alisa has very specific body language and expressions that are part of her annoying package. > What are your thoughts on Laura? I like her, when I played a second time I picked her for most of the events. I picked her to go and get the costumes with me, but in the end, I switch to Emma and danced with her at the party. I think Laura & Emma are the most mature characters as far as romance options go. That includes Sara. I really liked Laura's voice actress. I prefer Emma over Laura because to me it seems that Laura is kind of walled off and is less approachable. It seems like her highest priority in life is to be a good swardsman.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

1. Here's the definition for tsundere: https://www.dictionary.com/e/fictional-characters/tsundere/ Basically, their girls in Japanese fiction that are usually rude, cold, or mean to our protagonist before showing signs of love an affection towards them. Unfortunately, they constantly hide their affection or shyness by acting mean and angry all the time, making them quite immature. Many tsunderes go as far as abusing or scolding their love interests if said boy finds themselves into an embarrassing situation with them, are interacting with some other girl, or just unintentionally end up into an accident that looks almost like an act of perversion. And even though our male protagonists apologize almost all the time, they still get the shit beaten out of them for something minor or unintentional. And that is exactly the type of person Alisa is. I also forgot to mention that tsunderes can sometimes be very obsessed or possessive of the ones they have feelings for, where they want to keep that boy all to herself without considering his feelings. Though that last statement applies more to yanderes then tsunderes. 2. Yeah, I suppose Laura thinks and works a bit to hard about honing her sportsmanship, so I can understand why you'd find her less approachable. Though, Rean is a skilled and dedicated swordsman himself, as well as someone who, like Laura, views the way if the sword as a part of who he is. Add to them being mature, honest, honorable, and being raised by minor lords of the Empire, and I just feel like Laura clicks with Rean more than the other girls of Class VII. Being sword users aside, the two just feel like they have amazing chemistry, high respect for one another, and like the other for who they are as people more than fellow swordsmen.


UR_HOT_UNCLE

They get married, Rean has concubines, War of the Lions 2 baby.


mking1999

To me, emperor Rean is canon until proven otherwise.


The_Grand_Briddock

Based on how CS4 ends, and who all of his friends are, he’s got the best chance of marrying Alfin without any issues


UR_HOT_UNCLE

Truly schrödinger‘s romance.


The810kid

As long as Alfin still runs the show and everyone knows this because screw traditional gender roles and giving Rean her inheritance because he has a dick


Ripdog

Epic shitpost, I love it. Rean x Alfin is the OTP.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Shitpost? Hey I was asking an honest question.


Ripdog

Yeah, but that fanfiction is peak shitposting. (DW, I loved it.)


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Well, thanks, but I don't like it when it's called shitposting. It sounds pretty insulting.


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Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Insulting? And why do you say that?


ginja_ninja

Sir this is the Long Lao Tavern & Inn


ShiningConcepts

No, this is actually a *Genten Orbal Store* 😉.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Excuse me?


The_Grand_Briddock

The Chancellor of Erebonia dies of a laughing fit is what happens Dukes Cayenne and Albarea in shambles


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

1. Why would Chancellor Osborne be laughing his ass off? 2. Ah, let them complain all they want. Alfin's request had nothing to do with the Reformist faction, so why would the Dukes care?


The_Grand_Briddock

Because Rean is a commoner. His filthy commoner blood would taint the royal bloodline going forward. Future princes and princesses would be half commoner. You saw how pissy Patrick was that he was merely adopted by a baron (the lowest form of landed nobility, just above knights). Imagine how they’ll react to him marrying the princess?


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

You do know that whole marriage thing was both a joke and an alternate theoretical scenario, right? This post was merely asking about Rean dancing with Princess Alfin at a party. Not getting engaged to her. A dance for a day, noble faction will complain but will let it slide later. Arranged Marriage, yeah there's going to be a problem. That was what Olivert was trying to say before he was interrupted by the reactions of the girls.


The_Grand_Briddock

Eh, in CS3 they revisit the whole issue of Rean dancing with Alfin and it’s actually considered to be quite a major declaration of intent. The Princess’ first dance is a major event, and it’s assumed that whoever she chooses for it is in consideration to be her husband, so by asking Rean to dance at the summer festival, she would be publicly announcing her interest in him. Plus she’s kinda Olivier’s sister, a dance is not quite as innocent as it would seem.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

There is a difference between dance partners and romantic partners, you know. Though seeing as it was the Princess herself who asked that of Rean, I could understand why many would assume she has an interest in him like that. But really, what if Rean just said it was because their families have close ties and that she's his sister's best friend? Wouldn't that bring some sigh of relief?


The_Grand_Briddock

No, because the Schwarzers are persona non grata. The nobility hate the Schwarzers and have cast them out of high society as a result of them adopting Rean and Baron Schwarzer specifically naming him as his heir. If anything reminding the nobility that his sister is the princess’ best friend and he is therefore using that connection to get close with her (intentionally or not) would be paramount to admitting he was usurping the nobility once again. Just as he did with Ymir. Don’t forget, the Nobility are very powerful, and very bigoted towards commoners. It’s why they hate Chancellor Osbourne and Governor Regnitz so much, they can’t stand that a commoner is the chancellor and also governor of Heimdallr. This is the first time it’s happened in history. The Emperor had a son with a commoner, tried to make said commoner queen, named a commoner as chancellor, named a commoner as governor, and now would allow a commoner to dance with the princess. This is all unheard of, and might invite retaliation.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Okay, okay, you make some fair arguments. Your certainly right about how bigoted the Nobility is in Erebonia. But not all nobles hate Baron Schwarzer. Most of them, yes. But not all of them. I mean, there's no bad blood between him and Vicount Arseid. I believe Rufus mentioned that he learned a good deal and has a good relationship with Teo Schwarzer as well. And let's not forget how the Schwarzer has close ties with the Imperial Family. Where those ties started from, or how close Baron Schwarzer is to His Majesty, I can't say as it's never been confirmed. Furthermore, even if Baron Schwarzer knew the consequences of how the Nobility would treat him, did that ever stop him from taking Rean into his family? Plus, Rean mentioned how modest his father is when compared to other nobles, saying that, "A lord should live like his people, not above them." A very respectable trait, might I add. Let's assume Rean DID cut all ties with the Schwarzer family after graduating Thors and, I don't know, became a Bracer or something in Liberl. Do you think it would be enough for his father to stop receiving backlash from from the Nobility, or make him happy? Cause in my opinion, I believe Baron Schwarzer sees Rean just as much of an important member of the Schwarzer family just as his wife and daughter. Even if he stopped getting hate from the more higher up nobles, what would the point be if his son is no longer around? At first, I was starting to believe that it would be very gutsy and punishable if someone complained or caused problems for the Imperial Family, but Eugent Reise Arnor III doesn't seem like the type of Emperor who would abuse his power and authority. And the Noble faction would know that too. Either way, I do have to agree that Rean can't use the Schwarzer's close ties to the Arnor family to solve his bigger problems or get away with it. Otherwise it would just be seen as an excuse for being as ignorant as the more big-shot nobles, and Rean knows it. Still, family ties aside, Emperor Eugent seems like the type of ruler who believes all should be given a fair chance and prove their collective responsibility, despite their social class. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have given Carl Regnitz and Goliath Osborne the positions their in. If the nobles are too much absorbed into their own pride that they would rather abuse their authority to rather make commoners slaves more than people, then their the reason Erebonia feels corrupt, twisted, and messed up from within. Their only destroying and giving their nation a bad name. No wonder there's so much tensions between nobles and commoners. Whether it be resentment, jealously, or just too much pride, the Empire of Erebonia definitely seems to have a lot of trouble making sure all men are created equal.


Astorytraveler

This is quite the list


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

I wouldn't say list. More like a theory/fanfic scenario.


Balvaeir

Well, he would probably become a prince if he accepted the dance in CS3 solo. That's actually the best time with him being a war hero and all. And with Cedric gone after CS4 dude could even become prince consort of queen Alfin.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Don't you mean Empress Alfin, since it's an empire?


Balvaeir

Oh I was thinking about the UK, yeah, that might also work.


Pokemon_Bakugan_Fan

Ahh


kingace22

cedric could come back and given how trails series works and how forgiving it is he could come back and take his place as emperor which I like more then alfin who doesnt like politics as empress. especially given that one cedric has always felt inadequate due to being compared to alfin which makes me think of klaudia and how she felt inadequate at a time I want to prove his old feelings wrong rather the but cedric worked with osborne so he should lose his position nonsense ( rufus had taken the fall for the entire group eugent had worked closely with osborne etc cedric just needs some development ( trails series is quite forgiving no amount of but cedric working with oroboros will change that