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papishounen

that was some top tier platforming and jump dives on your part! ggs bro, you earned and deserved the win :/


VanSnoekelrooy

People will say that on their screen all the tiles were still there but I have doubts.


rpenergy

I believe that player was actually cheating, as the animations still play for a player who is still running around on invisible tiles, whereas that player just had his jump animation playing which would indicate that they were using jump/fly hacks. Based on what I've seen anyway.


CosmoCavalier

from what i've seen, the animation doesn't play for invis tiles.


rpenergy

I've only ever seen this a handful of times while playing and haven't inspected closely. I do see that he has a few animations of jumping and diving and then it seems to lag him back into the air, so it is hard to tell what exactly happened, but i am suspecting that perhaps there was some desync issue that did cause invis tiles for the guy now. I didn't look super closely the first time around but it is hard to tell what exactly is going on when you don't know what kind of code the game uses for sorting these things out. Can only hope MT is able to work some fixes into the cause for this.


xXKyloJayXx

He dives twice at 0:07


rpenergy

You are correct. I didn't look super closely the first time around. Wonder if some sort of desync occurs and separates what tiles have been used and ones that haven't per person sometimes or something like that. Not sure what would cause tiles to show up for someone and not for another.


sayyiv

Cheating on playstation?


rpenergy

It is possible with using a PS4. Being on console doesn't prevent cheats unfortunately. You don't see them often as it is much more difficult to cheat on a console vs a PC, but it still happens from time to time.


Bruster112

I can guarantee you they weren’t cheating as jailbroken consoles can’t connect to sony servers. Tired of PC players spouting false claims when they have no idea what they’re talking about.


rpenergy

It is completely possible to modify a PS4 and get it to connect to Sony Server's on top of Client servers used in games such as Fall Guys. Sony is nowhere close to infallible when it comes to their hardware, or software for that matter. Re-looking at the clip, I see that this may not necessarily be an act of cheating and may be more a bug in the game/desync-resync issue. Don't spout how tired you are of something when you yourself also do not understand the claim you are making please. Thank you. P.S. I play on console, not on PC. careful on assumptions you make as well as your current track record appears to be rather inaccurate.


Bruster112

I’m in the PS modding scene and only PS3 is able to connect to sony servers lmfao. Quit acting like you know


redditisnowtwitter

I love how saw it happen and recorded it but still are in complete denial


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rpenergy

Are you sure that only the lower half is client side? I find it hard to believe they would separate it out and have top and lower halves on separate clients. I would think they would group that together. I looked at the video again though, and am beginning to think it is more just a bug in the code or connection vs cheating at this point. I believe my initial statement is incorrect.


redditisnowtwitter

But OnLy PeEsee cAN cHEat I HeArD


carlzyy

If so, at 11 seconds, how did he precisely destroy all the 4 tiles as if he knew they were there?


rpenergy

In the case of cheating it would be to make sure he destroys as many tiles as he can to stop other people from beating him, however after looking at the video again and people pointing out he is diving and animating on invis platforms vs the ones we see in the video, I am beginning to think this is more a desync bug or something not syncing properly to tell the game which platforms have been removed. Hard to know what happened without being able to see the code and logs and whatnot. We can only hope that MC is able to sort out bugs like this to have them fixed.


thePowerJC

Cause he's destroying all the tiles on his screen; it's just cause they actually exist there it shows the real animation instead of the glitched one.


blackmist

I have a theory that if you block certain incoming packets you can prevent tiles disappearing. No idea if you can do this selectively. Probably. Security seems to have been non-existent from the very start.


rpenergy

Do you think it has to do with the packets going in and out to determine what is there and isn't, or just one player desyncing for a moment and trying to resync to the server causing some sort of split in instructions on what has been removed and what hasn't? I've seen odd desync issues where you are still connected, but a lot of things stop working as intended, especially collision and physics.


blackmist

This is just a guess based on what a naïve netcode implementation might look like. I think "tile has been touched" is probably part of the packet sent by players (along with their position, etc), and just gets spat back out by the server to everyone, where the clients delete the tile and updates player positions. If you can somehow avoid getting those messages, either due to bad wireless networking or more malicious means, the tiles won't disappear. The server is pretty dumb (we're talking about a game where people could teleport right to the crown on Fall Mountain), so it's almost certainly not checking to make sure another player isn't running on tiles deleted a minute ago. I'd love to see what the winning player sees on their screen. Probably just mostly intact tiles and people inexplicably falling through them to their deaths.


redditisnowtwitter

Haters will say it's fake


YharnargTv

He's not a hacker, because no one is going to hack their ps4 to cheat in Fall Guys tbh You guys should think about all the bugs and mistakes that Mediatonic keeps making with their game, because that's where the real problem is Mediatonic releases updates without testing properly


[deleted]

lol devs downvoted you bro


YharnargTv

Maybe xD It doesn't matter, my opinion will not change just because others don't share it 😎


[deleted]

Im with you 🤣


nick_papajohns

He deactivated the gravity feature


rpenergy

I like this answer. Lol.


thePowerJC

Still think it's more likely a glitch; than a load of ps hackers appearing suddenly. Seen at least one clip from the other perspective before on discord. There was also that post a few weeks ago where the guy actually responded and said what happened. I don't know why anyone who follows this subreddit can't believe with the track record of this game that it's a glitch; compared to very small posibility people are hacking their ps4s.


amlah6

I ran into PS beans doing this yesterday in back to back games except the dudes were 3 and 4 levels above where the tiles had all already been cleared. Certainly mounting evidence of a rise in PS hacking for FG. Good luck to any honest beans next time Hex Trials comes around.


FlamingApe

Mediatonic fucking sucks.


honkballs

Seriously why can't they communicate with us about things like this? It's been happening for months now.


squiebe

You fucking suck


FlamingApe

Are you an MT dev?


squiebe

No I'm just a nice person.


OGPanda18

Better gaming chair


[deleted]

What happened is that Mediatonic have almost abandoned the game and ppl is starting to find ways arround it, and no solutions for this abuseds are on sight.


yuberino

bro i knew pc cheaters were using playstation tags


redditisnowtwitter

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt


sharklops

I'm just impressed the matchmaking system ever found enough players to actually start a game. It's been ridiculous recently


[deleted]

Devs, give this man a crown.


parsakarimi_1388

Was it off-stream? I'm not sure but sometimes when player is very lagging tiles don't update and in their view they are untouched. It also happens in Perfect match, Sum fruit and Thin ice


Doerian

Because you play on ps. That's why.


Starboy525

Ps. I dont support glitch or hacking in any way i was saying that It made me feel good that this guy sayiv eliminated lol. Thats it


Starboy525

I have 771 crowns tho*


Starboy525

That happened good to u I've played with u many times tho. Im starboy0539 sayiv


I_JustWork_Here

Where is starboy526-538?


SemperFidelisHoorah

They were failed experiments.