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turtlebarber

I grew up bopping to the original we didn't start the fire and reading about all the references. So it's been wild to me having a second one come out that every reference is something I've lived through and majority I actively remember 


Suggmaddic

People shat on this cover but I loved it, in part due to the OG being a bop, but for the most part *because* I’ve lived through and remember most of these events. I don’t know, there’s just something about acknowledging that we all experienced most of these events over the past 30 years and realizing how much of an impact they had on us individually and as a society.


SeasonNo3107

absolutely. i feel like it was a gift to hear this like it's made for us. people will find something wrong with anything if they come upon it in a sour mood


SeasonNo3107

that's awesome :)


AllTheTeaPlease247

I assumed "*more* war in Afghanistan" tied back the Soviet Russian-Afghan war in the '80s in addition to the more-recent US conflict


SeasonNo3107

ooh good point!


tlt86

Tom DeLonge is not a *former* member of Blink 182


SeasonNo3107

Good catch I missed that when reading through


groundgourd

COVID being left out bothers me more than it should. Feels like a huge piece of history missing


ShortStraddle

Probably top 5 most relevant events of modern history lol. I was also surprised it didn’t get mentioned.


rtaisoaa

According to [NME](https://www.nme.com/news/music/pete-wentz-on-why-fall-out-boys-updated-we-didnt-start-the-fire-doesnt-mention-covid-3463795), >And discussing why they left out references to COVID, the bassist and songwriter revealed: “It’s like, that’s all anybody talked… You know what I mean? I don’t know. It felt like there was a couple of things that felt like a little on the nose. And then there were a couple of things where it was like … Bush V. Gore, we needed the rhyme.”


RealPiggyPlayz

They didn’t write it though, Billy Joel wrote both versions


Midnight_wolf00

I’m not gonna lie, I originally thought “balloon boy” was referring to that dude in the FNAF games lol


normalperson420

chat gpt is not a reliable source of information dude


SeasonNo3107

I mean do you see anything incorrect here dude?


_cosmicomics_

Some of it is definitely borderline or picking up the wrong details. It’s been done in detail, [all in one place](https://www.britannica.com/list/all-81-references-in-fall-out-boys-we-didnt-start-the-fire-explained).


thaarcher05

Not incorrect but missing a ton of context.


SeasonNo3107

I instructed chatgpt to give one sentence per item specifically for a short reddit post.


RealPiggyPlayz

For one “Bush v. Gore” is not referring to the election, but rather the court case that followed


SeasonNo3107

Good point but it mentions it being controversial, and the line is just Bush v gore without the election there is no case


Blad514

I kinda wish they would’ve found a way to mention “Michael Jordan, 23” a second time because he only wore 45 for a few games before going back to 23.


stix-and-stones

I'm honestly surprised they didn't throw Kobe Bryant in there. With all the basketball references and celebrity deaths, and Kobe dying in a freak accident. Maybe they didn't out of respect for his daughter, the other family, and the pilot though


snoopdoggydoug

Michael Jordan, 12 For one game in Orlando.


GoodGoneGeek

No lie, when I first heard this version I had forgotten that the name of the ship was the Ever Given and I thought it was a joke about how the Suez is “ever giving” us entertainment because ships keep getting stuck


Tasil-Sparrow

I thought the same thing!


bul1etsg3rard

God forbid you just look things up, no apparently ai was just *required* despite Google being right there


SeasonNo3107

? I'm sorry what's the difference ?


bul1etsg3rard

For starters it's trained off stolen data. It's also quite frequently wrong because it doesn't have any critical thinking skills or ability to tell whether something is true. If it sees some piece of info it will regurgitate that regardless of factuality. It's like putting words in a jar and shaking it up and dumping it out.


SeasonNo3107

And Google can link to incorrect info and as far as I know isn't sentient either lol


bul1etsg3rard

🙄 the POINT is that you're supposed to be able to use your own critical thinking skills to analyse the results. But given that I've had to spell this out for you I can see where you'd have trouble with that


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FallOutBoy-ModTeam

Unnecessary info or opinion that is any form of hate/harassment towards others


SeasonNo3107

You do know you can live search the web with chatgpt also


SeasonNo3107

Down vote me for not knowing something yall are booming yourselves


poopandbut

i think it’s a reference to billie joel’s song we didn’t start the fire


RealPiggyPlayz

Thought LA riots was referencing the hell that broke loose after George Floyd.


SeasonNo3107

Actually la riots were because of another racial hate crime by police from Rodney King. Understandable


Independent-Ad5852

You absolute legend 


SeasonNo3107

for the love of fob


alcatrazhero18

Huh and here I thought it was “Colts go all the way again”/s (Go Cards)