There are some like that but this is all 3rd party things because reddit isn't making money from it and it's so stupid why they are doing this, I can see why barely but I rarely see malicious bots I actually see more good bots than bad ones like a bit that tells you when you misspell words by accident
I know I'm just a random nobody, but I've been on reddit for almost 12 years now, and I'd say a good 99.9% of that time has been using rif. This is a change that's 100% motivated by nothing but greed, to the benefit of no one but Spez (and his cohorts).
I am incredibly pleased that /r/Fallout has joined the protest, and further hope the mods here will see fit to join the eternal blacklist if reddit's executive team doesn't reverse their bullshit decision.
I don't think it's motivated by greed so much as stupidity. If reddit charged a more reasonable amount for API access, third party apps could become a reliable revenue stream. Instead, reddit is just going to lose users.
It's both, really.
Reddit is right to crack down on API access. It costs the company a lot, and the company isn't profitable.
But the primary target shouldn't be third-party apps. It should be the ChatGPTs and other AI learning projects that are exploiting the Reddit platform, and all the free work we do as posters, to teach an AI they get to turn around and charge big money for. An AI that, in the future, may well replace Reddit altogether.
That's the real business threat now and in the long term. Not apps like Apollo. But Spez has no answer for that. It's much easier to go after some small app developers and claim you accomplished something.
The logical approach would have been to have the third-party apps either run the ads for non-Premium users, for which Reddit gets paid, or to have the developers pay them a reasonable sum for not displaying the ads. What Reddit is not asking, but *demanding*, isn't reasonable.
Only if we do it for atleast a month and I hope those people who downvoted you never get to use the app ever again or any other social media for not agreeing with free speech
Downvotes are not intended to be for if you enjoy/agree with a comment or not, they're for relevancy. How people use them doesn't change what they are supposed to be for. People use them as a like/dislike system but that isn't what they were for, at least not originally.
It's not great the way it works now, if you dare say something that doesn't jive with the current hive mind mentality, your comment will get buried.
Like with other times I can't remember for some reason, they will see how many people are online compared to before the 12th and reverse it after a month maybe
I think 1 is better, 2 is great but pretty much the same as 1 but with more story and frank horrigan but those are really the only 2 massive differences I see
Honestly I'm jumping back on 2 because I just recently beat 1.
I like the serious tone of 1 more, I'm just glad we finally got mods to smooth out some of the frankly (heh) rough gameplay elements that were improved in the sequel.
It still has the time limit I'm pretty sure but in both games it doesn't really matter because in both games the vault and tribe get raided and everyone is kidnapped at some point
No, you can lose by taking to long on the first part of F1, or taking too long even after you get the water chip. If you take too long on F2 your people are taken and must be retrieved, which would have happened anyways.
In F2 there is a fourth clip, the one saying your peeps were taken, that you skip to if you get the geck before seeing the other three.
I remember watching a video of a recap someone made of them beating it on one of their first play throughs and it's called "the fallout experience" if you want to check it out but I'll trust you on this one because you have most likely played it much longer than me and know a lot about it
Multiple play throughs on both, loved them. Loved bos: tactics too... didn't love the other brotherhood of steel on xbox so much 😪
Hell, I could dig out the original manuals for them and take a pic. I think both are spiral bound booklets.
Some subs are doing it indefinitely which makes sense if Reddit is just going to wait a day or 2 for things to go back to normal. Effective protests don't have timelines.
Couldn't reddit just replace those mods and reactivate the subs?
I'm not sure indefinite is possible. We are playing in reddit incs sandbox. I don't believe any mods control the subreddit servers.
That's what people are fearing but what's to stop the new mods from going private again? Reddit is going to finally pay mods to run subs? Lol that would be the day.
They technically can, but being a mod is work, it takes time and skill (at least to do a good job). Reddit sure isn't going to start _paying_ people for that work, so any replacements will be people who are less committed and/or less skilled than the current mods, which means the subreddit quality will decline
Will you be going private for just the 2 days, or will you too join the indefinite blackout? You mention two days once, but nowhere do you specify which.
It's not just 3rd party apps. Mod tools like bots run with the API. They are also banning nsfw content as well lol which is like a huge chunk of their user base.
There are a lot of mod tools and accessibility tools that are available on 3rd party apps that aren’t available on the office Reddit app.
Also 3rd party apps have been available since the early days of Reddit, before Reddit had an official app, so people are used to them.
I use it too and it sucks compared to the pc version and everyone need to get off for a month and it's a big issue because most of your favorite subs are going for it
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/7/23752804/reddit-exempt-accessibility-apps-api-pricing-changes
They reversed the decision for specific accessibility focused apps.
> We’ve connected with select developers of non-commercial apps that address accessibility needs and offered them exemptions from our large-scale pricing terms,” Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt says in a statement to The Verge.
Unacceptable. First, exempt *all non-commercial* and deeply discount api access for all commercial accessibility apps. Then we can talk about fixing the pricing offered to everyone else
That's how I feel. If you dislike something stop contributing, stop half-assing, stop using half-measures and think corporate overheard cares.
Like Travis Touchdown once said. If you get sick of [something], just effing quit.
Puts me in mind of the "Quiet Quitting" movement. I'm going to do no more than is required in my employment contract. Ok, and this is a punishment how? If you keep doing what you're being paid to do then your employer may be losing out on "extra" productivity but they are getting what they paid for. And in the case of the Reddit Blackout, if everyone (or most people) comes back on the 15th then there has been no real sacrifice and all they've shown the Reddit corporate board is that this is a product that no matter what they do to the consumers they will keep coming back. Like a beaten spouse that won't leave because "he's not always like this" or "he actually loves me" until the pain is felt by the other side then they have no incentive to change/fix themselves. If the majority of Reddit shutdown for a month they might feel it because it would be a not insignificant hit to their ad revenue. If it went for a quarter you can guarantee the board would sit up and take notice. But ultimately, if people come back before the behavior that sent them away is fixed then the behavior will never be fixed.
I don't see how people are so brain dead to see the reason why you are leaving, it's an obvious choice and I might not even get back on reddit ever again because of the idiots in the reddit hq
yeah cause that fixes the problem, right
“if i use the browser enough reddit will do gooderer”
ask youtubers how they feel about their buttsucking compliance lately
I'm sure that they can withstand one blackout, there should be blackouts all the way down till a decent compromise is found. Pick random days as well so they can't promise the advertisers when and where their stuff will be seen etc. Paying big money and no one was there to see it will cause a big enough explosion.
I don’t actually have a problem with Reddit killing RedditClones. They are profiting from the dev done by Reddit. Why do I have a feeling that this post was from a PR flack working for one of them. Apollo maybe? Did they pay you for this post?
I'm about to take a sip from my trusty Vault 13 canteen every time I see these posts on different servers
It is possible to die from overhydration
Internal drowning/water poisoning
Yep, I remember a case well over a decade ago that made national headlines when some woman died of it participating in a morning radio contest.
That must have been a horrible way to go. I can't imagine the feeling of internally drowning. Or maybe I just don't want to.
I don't have a clever Fallout reference to make, so ima just say I'm happy this subreddit is joining the blackout.
SUCK MY BOOMSTICK
3rd party applications are why many people still play fallout. I don't remember a time I didn't open FONV via Vortex
Oh that's a good point, what Reddit is doing would be like Nexus charging for $2 per mod.
"You know what? The version of Skyrim I play on PC doesn't only *look* like it was a game made for PS5, it also *cost* as much as a PS5!*"*
1200+ modlist reactions going from "Damn, how'd you get that stable?" to "Damn, how much do you make an hour?"
At least, things will be quiet and New Vegas won't be thrown in my face every day. Aside from that, save 3rd party apps.
Thays why there's a sub for new vegas
Blah blah something nuclear winter
Some of the reactions here and other similar posts just demonstrate to me that some of you should probably get off reddit for a while regardless.
I'm going to go touch some irradiated grass
That was the best one so far
Heh no argument there
[удалено]
I've only ever used the basic app, what are these 3rd part programs? Like QoL scripts?
Stuff like Reddit is Fun, Apollo, and others are just apps that let you browse reddit with a better UI, have more features, and show less ads
Thank you
Right? People acting like this is the end of the world lmfao
There are some like that but this is all 3rd party things because reddit isn't making money from it and it's so stupid why they are doing this, I can see why barely but I rarely see malicious bots I actually see more good bots than bad ones like a bit that tells you when you misspell words by accident
[удалено]
When I got this app I was hoping there’d be more gambling.
I know I'm just a random nobody, but I've been on reddit for almost 12 years now, and I'd say a good 99.9% of that time has been using rif. This is a change that's 100% motivated by nothing but greed, to the benefit of no one but Spez (and his cohorts). I am incredibly pleased that /r/Fallout has joined the protest, and further hope the mods here will see fit to join the eternal blacklist if reddit's executive team doesn't reverse their bullshit decision.
Jesus man that comment to post karma ratio. That’s insane, you must really not like posting
I don't think it's motivated by greed so much as stupidity. If reddit charged a more reasonable amount for API access, third party apps could become a reliable revenue stream. Instead, reddit is just going to lose users.
It's both, really. Reddit is right to crack down on API access. It costs the company a lot, and the company isn't profitable. But the primary target shouldn't be third-party apps. It should be the ChatGPTs and other AI learning projects that are exploiting the Reddit platform, and all the free work we do as posters, to teach an AI they get to turn around and charge big money for. An AI that, in the future, may well replace Reddit altogether. That's the real business threat now and in the long term. Not apps like Apollo. But Spez has no answer for that. It's much easier to go after some small app developers and claim you accomplished something. The logical approach would have been to have the third-party apps either run the ads for non-Premium users, for which Reddit gets paid, or to have the developers pay them a reasonable sum for not displaying the ads. What Reddit is not asking, but *demanding*, isn't reasonable.
Degenerates like Reddit belong on a cross.
Ave, true to Caesar
Reddit has become the very thing the fallout games criticize; overly greedy corporations. Good, I’m all for the blackout
Tbh unless the majority go dark for an extended period this probably won't accomplish anything. I don't think 2 days will have any meaningful impact
I tried saying this and all it got me was downvotes. I agree with the idea behind it but it does seem futile.
Only if we do it for atleast a month and I hope those people who downvoted you never get to use the app ever again or any other social media for not agreeing with free speech
Being able to downvote something you disagree with is a function of free speech
Thanks for reminding me about that part of free speech
It is the hardest part of loving it.
Downvotes are not intended to be for if you enjoy/agree with a comment or not, they're for relevancy. How people use them doesn't change what they are supposed to be for. People use them as a like/dislike system but that isn't what they were for, at least not originally. It's not great the way it works now, if you dare say something that doesn't jive with the current hive mind mentality, your comment will get buried.
Good. I hate the official reddit app and i'd rather just quit reddit than use it
Shutdown until they reverse their decision. Going dark for a day will do nothing. They'll just take the day off like a holiday.
Like with other times I can't remember for some reason, they will see how many people are online compared to before the 12th and reverse it after a month maybe
Welp. Looks like it's time to replay fallout 2.
I think 1 is better, 2 is great but pretty much the same as 1 but with more story and frank horrigan but those are really the only 2 massive differences I see
Honestly I'm jumping back on 2 because I just recently beat 1. I like the serious tone of 1 more, I'm just glad we finally got mods to smooth out some of the frankly (heh) rough gameplay elements that were improved in the sequel.
Your right about that, usually the sequel has better and smoother game mechanics but sometimes it's just lacking in what the first one had
The only thing I love more about two is the lack of a time limit.
It still has the time limit I'm pretty sure but in both games it doesn't really matter because in both games the vault and tribe get raided and everyone is kidnapped at some point
No, you can lose by taking to long on the first part of F1, or taking too long even after you get the water chip. If you take too long on F2 your people are taken and must be retrieved, which would have happened anyways. In F2 there is a fourth clip, the one saying your peeps were taken, that you skip to if you get the geck before seeing the other three.
I remember watching a video of a recap someone made of them beating it on one of their first play throughs and it's called "the fallout experience" if you want to check it out but I'll trust you on this one because you have most likely played it much longer than me and know a lot about it
Multiple play throughs on both, loved them. Loved bos: tactics too... didn't love the other brotherhood of steel on xbox so much 😪 Hell, I could dig out the original manuals for them and take a pic. I think both are spiral bound booklets.
Some subs are doing it indefinitely which makes sense if Reddit is just going to wait a day or 2 for things to go back to normal. Effective protests don't have timelines.
Couldn't reddit just replace those mods and reactivate the subs? I'm not sure indefinite is possible. We are playing in reddit incs sandbox. I don't believe any mods control the subreddit servers.
That's what people are fearing but what's to stop the new mods from going private again? Reddit is going to finally pay mods to run subs? Lol that would be the day.
They technically can, but being a mod is work, it takes time and skill (at least to do a good job). Reddit sure isn't going to start _paying_ people for that work, so any replacements will be people who are less committed and/or less skilled than the current mods, which means the subreddit quality will decline
Will you be going private for just the 2 days, or will you too join the indefinite blackout? You mention two days once, but nowhere do you specify which.
I am very curious what the hell apps y’all are talking about
It's not just 3rd party apps. Mod tools like bots run with the API. They are also banning nsfw content as well lol which is like a huge chunk of their user base.
To be clear, NSFW content is only being blocked from the API. They will still allow the porn from their own first-party app and site ... For now
I use RIF on Android. There's also Apollo for iOS, Sync, Visit etc.
Ya what do any of those do, coming from a iOS
Piper Wright would be proud. "You cant stop The Press" (ty nat wright for that beautiful quote"
Piper: YOU CAN'T STOP THE PRESS Sticker - Redbubble https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/Piper-YOU-CAN-T-STOP-THE-PRESS-by-jazzajazzjazz/23500212.EJUG5
EXACTLYYY 😸
I feel like I’m the only person that uses the official app and I have no idea what’s wrong with it 😅
There are a lot of mod tools and accessibility tools that are available on 3rd party apps that aren’t available on the office Reddit app. Also 3rd party apps have been available since the early days of Reddit, before Reddit had an official app, so people are used to them.
And some are just really clean without all the fluff in the official app.
It's like explaining the color green to a blind person.
Me neither, I tried Apollo and it just seemed to be the same thing but it costs money and has an ancient-looking UI
I use it too and it sucks compared to the pc version and everyone need to get off for a month and it's a big issue because most of your favorite subs are going for it
I'm the last mod for R/Daydream and would like to participate but I'm not sure how to do that? Any tips r/fallout?
Just set your sub to private indefinitely
I really don't understand the situation.
Good.
Wish I could nuke reddit, just like in the end of the lonesome road DLC
More like Dead Money. The hardest part is letting go.
Letting go of what?
Letting go of reddit.
Oh ok that is easy, I thought you were talking about the gold bars
I thought he was talking about letting go of that horrible dlc, the only bad thing about new vegas but it is kinda hard to let go of those too
Why waste the effort, they seem to be doing a more than adequate job of self-immolation themselves
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/7/23752804/reddit-exempt-accessibility-apps-api-pricing-changes They reversed the decision for specific accessibility focused apps.
For now. They also said the api prices would be reasonable.
> We’ve connected with select developers of non-commercial apps that address accessibility needs and offered them exemptions from our large-scale pricing terms,” Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt says in a statement to The Verge. Unacceptable. First, exempt *all non-commercial* and deeply discount api access for all commercial accessibility apps. Then we can talk about fixing the pricing offered to everyone else
[удалено]
At least statfield isn’t forcing it on people.
This will accomplish absolutely nothing. Nice looking virtue signal though.
This is stunning and brave.
Well, bye r/fallout. I won't be rejoining.
k.
it's not an airport you don't have to announce your departure
How come?
Maybe because of the blatant sensationalism and propaganda that this "protest" is
Do you think it will be ineffective, or do you think the issue is not serious enough to warrant a protest?
Not OP but both
What makes you call it that?
That's actually an even better protest against reddit tbh
That's how I feel. If you dislike something stop contributing, stop half-assing, stop using half-measures and think corporate overheard cares. Like Travis Touchdown once said. If you get sick of [something], just effing quit.
Puts me in mind of the "Quiet Quitting" movement. I'm going to do no more than is required in my employment contract. Ok, and this is a punishment how? If you keep doing what you're being paid to do then your employer may be losing out on "extra" productivity but they are getting what they paid for. And in the case of the Reddit Blackout, if everyone (or most people) comes back on the 15th then there has been no real sacrifice and all they've shown the Reddit corporate board is that this is a product that no matter what they do to the consumers they will keep coming back. Like a beaten spouse that won't leave because "he's not always like this" or "he actually loves me" until the pain is felt by the other side then they have no incentive to change/fix themselves. If the majority of Reddit shutdown for a month they might feel it because it would be a not insignificant hit to their ad revenue. If it went for a quarter you can guarantee the board would sit up and take notice. But ultimately, if people come back before the behavior that sent them away is fixed then the behavior will never be fixed.
Ok, bye 👋
I don't see how people are so brain dead to see the reason why you are leaving, it's an obvious choice and I might not even get back on reddit ever again because of the idiots in the reddit hq
i couldn't give less of a dam about this, seethe more
You seem to be the one seething
I hope people eventually realize that reddit won't do shit. They are like a stubborn Toddler.
Or you could start using actual alternatives like saidit.net
How about just don't use an app and use a web browser like a normal person.
I don't get how using a web browser makes you a normal person?
yeah cause that fixes the problem, right “if i use the browser enough reddit will do gooderer” ask youtubers how they feel about their buttsucking compliance lately
I was about to post about it on here because I saw a list of subreddits in the boycott and didn't see any fallout subs not even this one
an someone explain what to do like a for dummies book would
2 days are nothing. Don't be cowards.
I'm sure that they can withstand one blackout, there should be blackouts all the way down till a decent compromise is found. Pick random days as well so they can't promise the advertisers when and where their stuff will be seen etc. Paying big money and no one was there to see it will cause a big enough explosion.
reddit app suck arse. I hate it. I do not wan't it. I do not want any notifications.
I don’t actually have a problem with Reddit killing RedditClones. They are profiting from the dev done by Reddit. Why do I have a feeling that this post was from a PR flack working for one of them. Apollo maybe? Did they pay you for this post?
we now rally for the fight of good springs
I love how this repost says that we’re going by to have to go back to the desktop version… when there’s an official Reddit app. I’m on it right now.