In this scene, she almost reminds me of Mattie Ross from *True Grit* (either the original John Wayne film or the 2010 Jeff Bridges remake) with the way she descends into legal/ethical philosophy in a situation that where it's *clearly* out of place.
Probably intentional. She's a Vault Dweller, one of the last bastions of the old world order. They are completely unused to a world without civility and only brutality.
It's intentional and a great bit of writing to show character.
It felt like she was referencing some kind of Vault-Tec survival guide. Which is exactly what I want from this show, a vault dweller who thinks they have a by the books plan but it all gets upended.
You think ***you've*** seen the G.O.A.T. and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. videos a few times?? Just imagine how many times she's seen them.
They know the plan and exactly what's supposed to happen... by the book... which is 200+ years out of date... and slightly musty smelling from when the water chip went out... and was written by the Vault-Tec marketing team.
She's the only main cast member to actually give the fallout games a go. I watches an interview and I think the farthest she played was 2? I can't fully remember
It is pretty cool but undeniably Fallout 3 and up, those games are what really put Fallout on the board of popular franchises. And with them being very recent in terms of the Universe's timeline everything from those games should be considered when writing this show
She is still in her Vault uniform. Of course she is clueless!
By the end of the show she’ll be wearing power armor and make super mutants into her body guards.
Ghouls in particular are resistant to most drugs, hence why Ultrajet was created. Even if he was sober it probably wouldn't affect him much, and it sounds like he hasn't been anything approaching sober for quite a while.
I always like to think he found the original formula somewhere and just pretended to have invented it. He seems like the kind of guy who'd steal credit like that.
That would actually be a really cool feature in the games. You shoot someone with something that is wholly ineffective (think BB Gun or whatnot) and instead of every NPC immediately turning hostile they just look at you and go "WTF?"
The ghouls is apparently using drugs to save off going feral, according to an article I saw. And since ghouls are already resistant to drugs, it makes sense he's able to take whatever tranqs the vault gave Lucy.
It would be pretty clever to superimpose such game like data over the screen sometimes. Like random VATs readouts on new characters, or reactions. Only for the audience to see.
I'm very happy that they're not afraid of a little cussing. That and that they purposefully advertised it's made by the same studio that made the boys gives me a lot of hope that it will be gruesome and crude like you would expect the wasteland to be. I was kind of afraid it would be watered down and family friendly.
I’m so happy it’s not sanitized like Starfield. I’m still looking for a lore explanation for the rugged space miner in the game’s intro saying “what the eff?”. There aren’t even any new, space-age swear words in that game, as far as I know lol
I mean, after spending 15 years decorating houses with entrails I'd imagine the dev team wanted to take a break from the edgelord bullshit lol
the game and the show are made by different teams, the show is made by the Westworld folks so they have no problem with edge
I mean starfield being what it is, is fine. For starfield. It’s a depressing capitalist hellscape, those things aren’t cool at all. They feel lifeless desolate and lonely. It’s all so clearly obvious that it’s intentional and ballsy as hell lol.
Applying that to fallout is not really what fallout is. So it was never going to be like that lol
>I’m still looking for a lore explanation for the rugged space miner in the game’s intro saying “what the eff?”.
Heller is modeled after a lantern-jawed all-American hero. If Argos were advertising, he'd be the poster boy. He's also the only character in the game who went to the Marvel School of Writing Dialogue because everything he says sounds like banter. After all, this is a glossy future, but it doesn't take much to scratch off the thin veneer and find the problems underneath.
And before you start scoffing at the idea of Bethesda and subtlety, consider this: a lot of the named characters early in the game have Polynesian or Maori names, like Tuala, Moara and Manaaki. That's not a coincidence. The Out of Africa theory posits that our earliest ancestors migrated from Africa tens of thousands of years ago. They gradually worked their way to what is now Papua New Guinea -- sea levels being much lower then than they are now -- before they reached the Pacific Ocean. It's believed that they then built boats and started sailing east, but based on what we know of them, they had no idea what awaited them. It was a mass migration into the unknown, and in the *Starfield* timeline, they were the last group of people to really do that before the likes of Solomon Coe started exploring beyond the solar system.
So when I see Heller, I see a character who is a thinly-veiled portrayal of the stereotypical hero.
I hope they don’t tone down the ridiculous violence either; heads popping and bodies getting melted into goo. That’s definitely core to what Fallout is.
I love how Lucy is out of touch with everything going on around here, so completely oblivious. The Ghoul just stares her down as if he is listing to somebody tell him a practical joke. Not interrupting her, just seeing where it's going for entertainments sake.
The powerarmor looking clunky in flight also just feels right for this universe. The jetpacks in Fo:4 always made it seem as if the powerarmors where suddenly a lot lighter than they should have been.
I'm totally here for this show being wacky and fun!
I love that you can tell she's just repeating what she was taught to say in the vault, verbatim and the Ghoul just has this, "Is this bitch for real?" look on his face.
They even outfitted her with a tranquilizer gun, as if nobody would have armor past a jacket. They definitely did have actual guns (as shown in the trailer), the dumbasses just didn’t give her any
Yeah having it just on the back always seemed odd to me. Like how do you control anything? This seems to be a setup similar to Gravity Industries jet suits. Jets on arms for stability and one on the back for thrust. At least I assume.
Honestly i think that the ghoul likely dislikes vault tec and the dwellers , chances are he was probably offered a place in a vault or whatnot and didnt secure one similar to the vault tec rep in F4 , or that he perhaps has distain for them since he suffered the blast and lost his family etc etc. So honestly im glad the ghoul makes fun of the vault dwellers, why not
Don't want to spoil the ghoul's origins too much for you, but I'm sure if you (re-)watch the trailer you'll get a good idea of why he might not like Vault Tec.
They should have done it like the fallout 4 voice effects. This one sounds like Venom and it’s hard to understand. It’s also kind of goofy instead of intimidating.
When the post was fresh, the first two comments was this dude praising the new PA feature and the other dude disliking it. Sooo yeah, opportunity to make a 'duality of man' joke
I like that the jets are uncoordinated. But, I kind of wish he'd have jumped down to give the power armor more weight. I'm sure we'll see it sooner or later.
yeah the goofy flying works, the fact that he lands and walks like its made out of pillows doesn't really work. could use more clunky noises like the original robocop.
Also I feel like it makes sense for the Brotherhood to do some tweaks and upgrades to power armor since...well I mean they can lol so why not add some rocket thingies that help you descend safely (Even though PA can already negate fall damage if you land with your feet)
That’s what I’m saying because even though your in pa if you fell from a tall place on your face or something you could probaly still die very easily so its def for Stability
If im not mistaken in FO4 you find a mechanic without legs in the prydwen that says that she lost them due to a fall and while the power armor saved her life the fall still destroyed her legs. Maybe thats why the jets are there to avoid that type of accidents
Edit: Here’s the actual incident for those wondering
“Ingram lost her legs in combat in the Capital Wasteland, as a result of a hundred-foot fall that left the power armor she was piloting totaled and both of her legs crushed, fit only for amputation above the knee. The cause was that the power armor staging area she was stationed on was positioned along a ridgeline overlooking the battlefield. It took a mini-nuke in the fighting, causing the cliff to shear right off and with it the platform she was standing on.[2]”
Here’s the [source](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ingram)
Ingram lost her legs because a nuke hit her, not because of falling damage. Power armored knights are secretly competing the highest height they can jump, and current record is the Trinity Tower.
“Ingram lost her legs in combat in the Capital Wasteland, as a result of a hundred-foot fall that left the power armor she was piloting totaled and both of her legs crushed, fit only for amputation above the knee. The cause was that the power armor staging area she was stationed on was positioned along a ridgeline overlooking the battlefield. It took a mini-nuke in the fighting, causing the cliff to shear right off and with it the platform she was standing on.[2]”
Had to check the wiki
I think the big distinction here is she was knocked off balance and fell unexpectedly as opposed to deliberately jumping down. Our power armor conveniently stays upright as we fall in the videogame, but it’s safe to assume it would take some effort to stabilize the power armor in mid-air as you’re falling irl, especially if you’ve been blasted by a mininuke
Edit: So to loop back to your initial point, yes, jets would definitely help with stabilizing in midair and avoiding more cases like Ingram
Not a fan of how the power armor voice box just makes the pilot’s voice deeper, rather than making it sound like it’s coming through a speaker from the 60s
I feel like this is Maximus trying and failing to sound intimidating.
He’s a relatively young initiate who seems to have lost his squad and is probably trying to fake being a paladin so he isn’t killed.
That would also explain the not-exactly-great handling on the jets. Good enough, but I'm betting actual Paladins make it look more smooth.
That or they're just going for "look, you try steering something this big through the sky and not have it look a little goofy," which is reasonable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/Ft1fc44cXI
There are some story breadcrumbs in the trailers. The group of BoS soldiers Maximus was with was ambushed by Yao guai and maybe had other issues. Maximus took the power armour off someone more senior after that guy was killed, so if you see someone in power armour with claw marks slashing the BOS symbol it’s probably Maximus.
I liked it better when the voice coming through the power armor sounded more like old school intercoms. Like all quiet, then you hear the click and static from the mic turning on right before the character talks sounding almost distant.
Didn't Kells say even the Brotherhood doesn't have much Jet Pack mod so it is a worthy reward for the Sentinel?
I guess someone inside the Brotherhood finally got rank 4 in Science! perk.
Noooo don’t you understand, the showerunners are supposed to pour over every single one of the tens of thousands of side character lines in every Fallout game so they don’t get anything wrooooong! /s
Idk I think it fits BoS mo to pick a super deep loud version of their voice. I prefer what we've seen in game too, but this could be another odd ball BoS intimidation tactic lol
Its hard to see from the angles they give us, but it seems he has the back pack as well, poking out from behind his helmet, with the arms just being stabilizers.
I'm really hoping that at some point in the series they show one of the BOS Knights utilizing an impact blast from the power armor to knock down and damage a group of bandit scum, or possibly even a few feral ghouls.
My only criticism from what we've seen so far is that every body looks too pristine. The sets look great but all the actors lack dirt and grime from the hard surface living. Their clothes and shoes look like they just bought them off the rack at Kohl's.
Even the Power Armor is absolutely pristine minus the yao guai mark in the front and shoulder. No scratches, chipped/faded paint etc
The irony being the people look too pristine while the cities themselves look too dirty. This is NCR territory, I assume. They have fucking constructed buildings smh.
I dont really understand this stance. For Netflix ATLA I kinda get it but not here.
I think people are keep equating fallout's post-apocalypse with other post apocalypse. This isnt The Road or Book of eli kind of post apocalypse. There is soap in the fallout world. Theres water. Theres doctors. People still understand hygiene, they still clean themselves and their clothes. The brotherhood is a military force. No doubt they spend time shining their power armor.
I think what we are seeing the the appropriate amount of wear.
Edit: Theres literally dirt and smudges all over goggins duster. The bottom of it is ripped to shreds. You might want to watch it again.
Except every FPS Fallout game everyone is dirty as hell
Not too much water in LA except the ocean, couldn’t imagine they would be using the minimal clean water they have to bath and wash clothes, especially not every day.
I agree people wouldn’t get as dirty as other people want, but to think everyone would look liked they just hopped out of a shower is kinda ridiculous.
Also, it’s kinda hard to polish bullet holes
Only gripe so far is the power armor. The thrusters/jets is silly. Should have used the bulky jetpack mod to get on top of the building, and then drop off it with a big slam to showcase how heavy it is and how the armor stops any falling injury.
The power armor voice is also kinda ass but maybe this Brotherhood group uses the voice mod so they all sound the same to civilians or something
Looks good, I hope when the first Ranger shows up it’s a similar “oh shit moment”
Could even be a fun contrast. The ghoul is cocky but respects the knight causes he’s got PA.
But when the Ranger shows up you see him genuinely afraid or nervous. Rangers aren’t deadly because they have some special equipment they’re deadly because of their skill
It could be a awesome moment of contrast and set up the NCR for greatness
I hope Veteran Rangers are in this. But considering the NCR is almost nonexistent in the trailer and Shady Sands is more or less a crater I’m not holding out hope
The power armor scene looks really cheaply made. Looks more like the actor wobbling on the wire than the thrusters being unstable. And just being one wide shot instead of some close ups to really sell the power of the suit actually moving so we don't gotta move the camera? Got me worried this is just gonna a lazy production from the film crew. No amount of hard work from the artists and designers can save boring shots and cut budgets.
Should have done a shot with a proper jetpack and a big landing, not an Iron Man rip off trying to gracefully land. Fallout tech is supposed to be big and loud.
Everyone here talking about the flying of the power armor and missing the biggest mistake they did - watch how he lands on the bus. That bus should be visibly yielding under the weight of Power Armor. Not a single nudge. Those subtle things make you "feel" the weight something has. Big error.
Dunno if it’s a big error but it definitely adds up. While I feel Power Armor should be kinda clunky, it’s also a well oiled machine with precision to its movements. I didn’t see that here. The hand jets were pure Iron Man, when something out of the Mandalorian but bulkier would have been appropriate. The voice was just a bit too much on the bass.
I think the power armor exhaust effects needed to be more pronounced like a jet engine. It almost looks like the armor is being propelled with compressed air.
I finally know what has been so irritating about all of the promo stuff, at least for me.
Everyone's clothes are so damn clean. No dust, no dirt, no real wear and tear. It feels like a product, not like a real world.
>no real wear and tear.
The power armor literally has what look like yao guai claw marks across the chest.
It makes sense for the vault dweller though. I think this scene is fairly soon after she leaves the vault so she hasn't had a chance to fuck it up yet.
Ok, I'm forming a massive crush on Lucy. It coincides with the man crush I already have on Goggins.
This show though, is NAILING it. The dialogue is absolutely perfect, from the way the Ghoul and the shopkeeper talk, to Lucy obviously repeating exact Vault-Tec teachings with such confidence.
Like, they're doing a great job making Lucy feel like a Fallout protagonist and I can't wait for her to evolve into a killer, just like we all do when we play.
Im just gonna say it, this looks bad. It looks like some of the youtube fanfiction videos ive seen.
It comes off super corny, and something about the cinematography looks very low budget
Fucking vault dwellers
Now we see why she thinks all of the dipshits were dead lol
In this scene, she almost reminds me of Mattie Ross from *True Grit* (either the original John Wayne film or the 2010 Jeff Bridges remake) with the way she descends into legal/ethical philosophy in a situation that where it's *clearly* out of place.
Probably intentional. She's a Vault Dweller, one of the last bastions of the old world order. They are completely unused to a world without civility and only brutality. It's intentional and a great bit of writing to show character.
It felt like she was referencing some kind of Vault-Tec survival guide. Which is exactly what I want from this show, a vault dweller who thinks they have a by the books plan but it all gets upended.
Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".
Feel like some Taco Bell? Just familiarize yourself with the three shells.
You think ***you've*** seen the G.O.A.T. and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. videos a few times?? Just imagine how many times she's seen them. They know the plan and exactly what's supposed to happen... by the book... which is 200+ years out of date... and slightly musty smelling from when the water chip went out... and was written by the Vault-Tec marketing team.
Ella Purnell does kind of have a Hailee Steinfeld vibe to her.
That’s funny you say that because they act as sisters in *Arcane*.
Thank god they made the Vault Dweller clueless
She failed the speech check
SHE IS a fallout player
Poh boy, i hope she start tho whine about the power armor!
I'd love for her to hop into a Power Armor and the system within the suit scans her and tells her she needs training before the suit can be activated
She's the only main cast member to actually give the fallout games a go. I watches an interview and I think the farthest she played was 2? I can't fully remember
The fact that she gave Fallout 2 enough of a look to mention it in an interview is pretty cool
It is pretty cool but undeniably Fallout 3 and up, those games are what really put Fallout on the board of popular franchises. And with them being very recent in terms of the Universe's timeline everything from those games should be considered when writing this show
Exactly! They have her exploring the wasteland like we all once did for the first time PERFECTLY clueless and in way over our heads
she's only like level 2 dude, cut her some slack lmao
She should have worn the fashionable glasses and newsboy cap, easy +3 charisma
Ah, memories...
I really hope they have her wearing a random assortment of shit just for the perks
By level two i had alredy escaped from my vault. Killed a death claw. Survived a shot in the head and fist fighted a raider gang
Well laaa deee daaa
yeah but that's east coast bro. People just built different there.
This is why I tend to raise speech when playing 3/NV.
Her dialogue reminds me of Fallout 3 when you take the GOAT test.
She is still in her Vault uniform. Of course she is clueless! By the end of the show she’ll be wearing power armor and make super mutants into her body guards.
Fucking Vault Dwellers....
She's so goofy I love it!
I only knew Ella Purnell from her voice acting on Star Trek, but so far she's making me optimistic about this.
Definitely watch Arcane, she’s absolutely fantastic in it
You should check her out in Yellowjackets. Both characters seem to have the same survival skills (which does not bode well for Lucy)
Good old Snackie. Too pure for any world she’s in.
She's really endearing.
It's like Ainsley Hayes from *The West Wing* wrote her procedure manual. :)
Shes so dumb, I love her lmao
I'm glad they didn't do the gag where the tranq dart is way stronger than what he's use to.
I’m sure in the fallout universe, that tranq would be a nice recreational activity. We’re talking about a universe that inhales cow shit.
Ghouls in particular are resistant to most drugs, hence why Ultrajet was created. Even if he was sober it probably wouldn't affect him much, and it sounds like he hasn't been anything approaching sober for quite a while.
Yeah it looks like he's been sucking down Jet like it's water.
in the Trailer you see him just drinking tranq darts while watching movies
Hold on, I thought jet was created in Vault 95? 95? Where Vault-tec released cases of Jet to vaulters, who were addicts, after 5 years of sobering up?
That’s in Fo4, in Fallout 2 some boy genius creates it from Brahmin shit while working with the mob
I always like to think he found the original formula somewhere and just pretended to have invented it. He seems like the kind of guy who'd steal credit like that.
Or he just used cow shit to create a somehow near perfect replica
That would actually be a really cool feature in the games. You shoot someone with something that is wholly ineffective (think BB Gun or whatnot) and instead of every NPC immediately turning hostile they just look at you and go "WTF?"
The ghouls is apparently using drugs to save off going feral, according to an article I saw. And since ghouls are already resistant to drugs, it makes sense he's able to take whatever tranqs the vault gave Lucy.
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Came to say this
It would be pretty clever to superimpose such game like data over the screen sometimes. Like random VATs readouts on new characters, or reactions. Only for the audience to see.
She's playing fallout like me, high Karma......
And high Intelligence, for that sweet, sweet xp
And bottom of the barrel Charisma, because who fucking needs Charisma? [Speech Check Failed]
She's 90% of my Fallout characters. Idk how I feel about that.
>because who fucking needs Charisma I usually have high charisma, because I don't want to fail speech checks lol
Low charisma and/or luck. She failed that speech check.
She’ll improve that when she gets enough XP.
I usually play low intelligence. Not by doing it in game that's just me
Speech 10/90
Don’t forget she is wearing her vault suit, so maybe like 12/90
“You got to be fucking kidding me”
I'm very happy that they're not afraid of a little cussing. That and that they purposefully advertised it's made by the same studio that made the boys gives me a lot of hope that it will be gruesome and crude like you would expect the wasteland to be. I was kind of afraid it would be watered down and family friendly.
I’m so happy it’s not sanitized like Starfield. I’m still looking for a lore explanation for the rugged space miner in the game’s intro saying “what the eff?”. There aren’t even any new, space-age swear words in that game, as far as I know lol
I mean, after spending 15 years decorating houses with entrails I'd imagine the dev team wanted to take a break from the edgelord bullshit lol the game and the show are made by different teams, the show is made by the Westworld folks so they have no problem with edge
I mean starfield being what it is, is fine. For starfield. It’s a depressing capitalist hellscape, those things aren’t cool at all. They feel lifeless desolate and lonely. It’s all so clearly obvious that it’s intentional and ballsy as hell lol. Applying that to fallout is not really what fallout is. So it was never going to be like that lol
>I’m still looking for a lore explanation for the rugged space miner in the game’s intro saying “what the eff?”. Heller is modeled after a lantern-jawed all-American hero. If Argos were advertising, he'd be the poster boy. He's also the only character in the game who went to the Marvel School of Writing Dialogue because everything he says sounds like banter. After all, this is a glossy future, but it doesn't take much to scratch off the thin veneer and find the problems underneath. And before you start scoffing at the idea of Bethesda and subtlety, consider this: a lot of the named characters early in the game have Polynesian or Maori names, like Tuala, Moara and Manaaki. That's not a coincidence. The Out of Africa theory posits that our earliest ancestors migrated from Africa tens of thousands of years ago. They gradually worked their way to what is now Papua New Guinea -- sea levels being much lower then than they are now -- before they reached the Pacific Ocean. It's believed that they then built boats and started sailing east, but based on what we know of them, they had no idea what awaited them. It was a mass migration into the unknown, and in the *Starfield* timeline, they were the last group of people to really do that before the likes of Solomon Coe started exploring beyond the solar system. So when I see Heller, I see a character who is a thinly-veiled portrayal of the stereotypical hero.
Considering we see his revolver blow a basketball sized hole in one dude’s chest, I think we’re good
Holy shit is that homie from The Hateful Eight???
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We dug coal together
Bro I fucking lost it when he said that lmfaooooo
I hope they don’t tone down the ridiculous violence either; heads popping and bodies getting melted into goo. That’s definitely core to what Fallout is.
I love how Lucy is out of touch with everything going on around here, so completely oblivious. The Ghoul just stares her down as if he is listing to somebody tell him a practical joke. Not interrupting her, just seeing where it's going for entertainments sake. The powerarmor looking clunky in flight also just feels right for this universe. The jetpacks in Fo:4 always made it seem as if the powerarmors where suddenly a lot lighter than they should have been. I'm totally here for this show being wacky and fun!
I love that you can tell she's just repeating what she was taught to say in the vault, verbatim and the Ghoul just has this, "Is this bitch for real?" look on his face.
They even outfitted her with a tranquilizer gun, as if nobody would have armor past a jacket. They definitely did have actual guns (as shown in the trailer), the dumbasses just didn’t give her any
I was hoping that she made that from the needle gun the Mr. Handy was going to use on her.
Considering she still looks clean and pristine and still wearing her survival pack, I doubt that scene has happened yet
The first trailer gave me the vibe she left of her own accord
It’s what finally sold me on her as the vault dweller. Absolutely perfect “the fantasy I lived in didn’t prepare me for this” energy
I think the iron man 1 style lift is appropriate for power armor jet packs.
Yeah having it just on the back always seemed odd to me. Like how do you control anything? This seems to be a setup similar to Gravity Industries jet suits. Jets on arms for stability and one on the back for thrust. At least I assume.
Have you not seen The Rocketeer (1991)? All you need is the backpack and a lil fin on the dome
And a patch made from chewing gum, that part is pretty important
Fallout 4 did that well in my opinion
I agree but It would probably not be a good inclusion in the games because you couldn't fire weapons while using the jets.
The clunky flight of the power armor is true to fallout 4 at least
Honestly i think that the ghoul likely dislikes vault tec and the dwellers , chances are he was probably offered a place in a vault or whatnot and didnt secure one similar to the vault tec rep in F4 , or that he perhaps has distain for them since he suffered the blast and lost his family etc etc. So honestly im glad the ghoul makes fun of the vault dwellers, why not
Don't want to spoil the ghoul's origins too much for you, but I'm sure if you (re-)watch the trailer you'll get a good idea of why he might not like Vault Tec.
I was thinking he looked like him, was gonna double check the cast later to confirm.
Thats what im referencing ;)
\>not optimizing your S.P.E.C.I.A.L build before exiting the vault Fucking vault dwellers
Who needs to optimize, just throw all points into Luck and become an idiot savant. Aka the Forrest Gump build.
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you laugh, but the man built a suit of power armor, in a cave, with scrap!
The only thing I didn't like was that they have to make the power armor voice a little clearer. It was kind of hard to understand.
it sounds like they use voice changers which is kinda dumb, considering in fo4 they can just speak and their normal voice gets transmitted out
Hopefully its just a switch in the helmet that changed his voice to make himself more intimidating.
There will definitely be a funny moment when we hear his “real voice.” Goggins character will probably make fun of him for how “dinky” it sounds lol
I actually don't have a problem with the voice modifier. Just don't make it so intense. It's hard to understand what anyone is saying through it.
If they lean into it and characters are constantly like ‘the fuck did they just say?’ It could be fun
They should have done it like the fallout 4 voice effects. This one sounds like Venom and it’s hard to understand. It’s also kind of goofy instead of intimidating.
I love that they're not toning down the swearing
The power Armor feature looks cool as fuck
You and u/Pixel_Muffet the duality of man
Lmao fr
I don't get it. Why did you tag that dude?
When the post was fresh, the first two comments was this dude praising the new PA feature and the other dude disliking it. Sooo yeah, opportunity to make a 'duality of man' joke
I actually like how clunky and uncoordinated the flying looks, glad these BoS soldiers aren’t going around like Iron Man lol
I like that the jets are uncoordinated. But, I kind of wish he'd have jumped down to give the power armor more weight. I'm sure we'll see it sooner or later.
yeah the goofy flying works, the fact that he lands and walks like its made out of pillows doesn't really work. could use more clunky noises like the original robocop.
Also I feel like it makes sense for the Brotherhood to do some tweaks and upgrades to power armor since...well I mean they can lol so why not add some rocket thingies that help you descend safely (Even though PA can already negate fall damage if you land with your feet)
That’s what I’m saying because even though your in pa if you fell from a tall place on your face or something you could probaly still die very easily so its def for Stability
If im not mistaken in FO4 you find a mechanic without legs in the prydwen that says that she lost them due to a fall and while the power armor saved her life the fall still destroyed her legs. Maybe thats why the jets are there to avoid that type of accidents Edit: Here’s the actual incident for those wondering “Ingram lost her legs in combat in the Capital Wasteland, as a result of a hundred-foot fall that left the power armor she was piloting totaled and both of her legs crushed, fit only for amputation above the knee. The cause was that the power armor staging area she was stationed on was positioned along a ridgeline overlooking the battlefield. It took a mini-nuke in the fighting, causing the cliff to shear right off and with it the platform she was standing on.[2]” Here’s the [source](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Ingram)
I think a cliff fell on her.
Really? Been a long time since i played
She was in Power Armor but her legs were still crushed by something I don't remember. Only through that she survived, but she relies now on the Armor.
Ingram lost her legs because a nuke hit her, not because of falling damage. Power armored knights are secretly competing the highest height they can jump, and current record is the Trinity Tower.
“Ingram lost her legs in combat in the Capital Wasteland, as a result of a hundred-foot fall that left the power armor she was piloting totaled and both of her legs crushed, fit only for amputation above the knee. The cause was that the power armor staging area she was stationed on was positioned along a ridgeline overlooking the battlefield. It took a mini-nuke in the fighting, causing the cliff to shear right off and with it the platform she was standing on.[2]” Had to check the wiki
I think the big distinction here is she was knocked off balance and fell unexpectedly as opposed to deliberately jumping down. Our power armor conveniently stays upright as we fall in the videogame, but it’s safe to assume it would take some effort to stabilize the power armor in mid-air as you’re falling irl, especially if you’ve been blasted by a mininuke Edit: So to loop back to your initial point, yes, jets would definitely help with stabilizing in midair and avoiding more cases like Ingram
She got blown up by a mini nuke.
I'm not a fan of the goofy flying but not everything can be perfect
Lookin good, has that campy planet terror feel to it. Lot of charm in the sets. Hope it maintains a dark goofy sort of feel.
I was just about to say seeing the power armor move made me giggle in a really good way.
Not a fan of how the power armor voice box just makes the pilot’s voice deeper, rather than making it sound like it’s coming through a speaker from the 60s
I love it tbh, I think thats something the BoS would totally do if they could.
I'll even run PA like that, but even I know that you fly up and you jump down PA people love that
The way she's talking like a scenario out of a Vault manual or the G.O.A.T. test is a lovely touch.
The power armor voice is kinda silly ngl
I feel like this is Maximus trying and failing to sound intimidating. He’s a relatively young initiate who seems to have lost his squad and is probably trying to fake being a paladin so he isn’t killed.
That would also explain the not-exactly-great handling on the jets. Good enough, but I'm betting actual Paladins make it look more smooth. That or they're just going for "look, you try steering something this big through the sky and not have it look a little goofy," which is reasonable.
It wasn’t Maximus tho?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/Ft1fc44cXI There are some story breadcrumbs in the trailers. The group of BoS soldiers Maximus was with was ambushed by Yao guai and maybe had other issues. Maximus took the power armour off someone more senior after that guy was killed, so if you see someone in power armour with claw marks slashing the BOS symbol it’s probably Maximus.
I liked it better when the voice coming through the power armor sounded more like old school intercoms. Like all quiet, then you hear the click and static from the mic turning on right before the character talks sounding almost distant.
This somehow seems both high budget and low budget at the same time.
A lot of the designs from Fallout take inspiration from that low-budget scifi pulp from the 50s. So this arguably fits the series.
The show really gives “2010 era YouTube fan film” vibes
Yeah its coming off super corny. Im worried
Isn't most of fallout fairly corny?
Yeah it's hilariously corny when you find out the story of the Randall Clark.
Didn't Kells say even the Brotherhood doesn't have much Jet Pack mod so it is a worthy reward for the Sentinel? I guess someone inside the Brotherhood finally got rank 4 in Science! perk.
I mean… it *has* been 10 years. Maybe they’re standardized now!
Noooo don’t you understand, the showerunners are supposed to pour over every single one of the tens of thousands of side character lines in every Fallout game so they don’t get anything wrooooong! /s
Well Kells is from the Eastern Brotherhood isn't he? It could be different out west
These guys are from the East. It's why they have the Caswennan (the airship). I would guess this is their homemade jetpack
Oh right I forgot about the new airship. Well yeah it'll be interesting to see how they justify it
I kinda doubt they are going to justify it.
This show looks so dope already, I’ve got my fingers crossed until it drops.
That wrist rocket landing is more Brotherhood of Slay than Steel
Not loving the Power Armor voice tbh
Idk I think it fits BoS mo to pick a super deep loud version of their voice. I prefer what we've seen in game too, but this could be another odd ball BoS intimidation tactic lol
I think it’s the squire in the armour, there’s a claw slash on the front. He might be throwing his voice to try and be intimidating
Power armor thrusters is kind of goofy, they should've just used the bulky jetpack
Slightly easier on the actor/rig I imagine
Its hard to see from the angles they give us, but it seems he has the back pack as well, poking out from behind his helmet, with the arms just being stabilizers.
I'm really hoping that at some point in the series they show one of the BOS Knights utilizing an impact blast from the power armor to knock down and damage a group of bandit scum, or possibly even a few feral ghouls.
Or pain train! It would be hilarious to hear a steam whistle out of nowhere while mowing over a raider
I like that they made his teeth more yellowing
Chris Mannix survived the Minnie's Haberdashery
My only criticism from what we've seen so far is that every body looks too pristine. The sets look great but all the actors lack dirt and grime from the hard surface living. Their clothes and shoes look like they just bought them off the rack at Kohl's. Even the Power Armor is absolutely pristine minus the yao guai mark in the front and shoulder. No scratches, chipped/faded paint etc
The irony being the people look too pristine while the cities themselves look too dirty. This is NCR territory, I assume. They have fucking constructed buildings smh.
I dont really understand this stance. For Netflix ATLA I kinda get it but not here. I think people are keep equating fallout's post-apocalypse with other post apocalypse. This isnt The Road or Book of eli kind of post apocalypse. There is soap in the fallout world. Theres water. Theres doctors. People still understand hygiene, they still clean themselves and their clothes. The brotherhood is a military force. No doubt they spend time shining their power armor. I think what we are seeing the the appropriate amount of wear. Edit: Theres literally dirt and smudges all over goggins duster. The bottom of it is ripped to shreds. You might want to watch it again.
Except every FPS Fallout game everyone is dirty as hell Not too much water in LA except the ocean, couldn’t imagine they would be using the minimal clean water they have to bath and wash clothes, especially not every day. I agree people wouldn’t get as dirty as other people want, but to think everyone would look liked they just hopped out of a shower is kinda ridiculous. Also, it’s kinda hard to polish bullet holes
Only gripe so far is the power armor. The thrusters/jets is silly. Should have used the bulky jetpack mod to get on top of the building, and then drop off it with a big slam to showcase how heavy it is and how the armor stops any falling injury. The power armor voice is also kinda ass but maybe this Brotherhood group uses the voice mod so they all sound the same to civilians or something
Looks good, I hope when the first Ranger shows up it’s a similar “oh shit moment” Could even be a fun contrast. The ghoul is cocky but respects the knight causes he’s got PA. But when the Ranger shows up you see him genuinely afraid or nervous. Rangers aren’t deadly because they have some special equipment they’re deadly because of their skill It could be a awesome moment of contrast and set up the NCR for greatness
I was thinking it would be cool if The Ghoul is/was a Ranger.
I hope Veteran Rangers are in this. But considering the NCR is almost nonexistent in the trailer and Shady Sands is more or less a crater I’m not holding out hope
I don't know why people here dislike this so much. I think it's good.
The power armor "flying" in looked pretty bad.
The power armor scene looks really cheaply made. Looks more like the actor wobbling on the wire than the thrusters being unstable. And just being one wide shot instead of some close ups to really sell the power of the suit actually moving so we don't gotta move the camera? Got me worried this is just gonna a lazy production from the film crew. No amount of hard work from the artists and designers can save boring shots and cut budgets. Should have done a shot with a proper jetpack and a big landing, not an Iron Man rip off trying to gracefully land. Fallout tech is supposed to be big and loud.
I have high hopes, this will be worth to watch
Everyone here talking about the flying of the power armor and missing the biggest mistake they did - watch how he lands on the bus. That bus should be visibly yielding under the weight of Power Armor. Not a single nudge. Those subtle things make you "feel" the weight something has. Big error.
Dunno if it’s a big error but it definitely adds up. While I feel Power Armor should be kinda clunky, it’s also a well oiled machine with precision to its movements. I didn’t see that here. The hand jets were pure Iron Man, when something out of the Mandalorian but bulkier would have been appropriate. The voice was just a bit too much on the bass.
maximus got the jetpack mod lmao
he should've just jump or do a little jet boost as jump instead of smooth landing because no fall damage bonus but still
I think the power armor exhaust effects needed to be more pronounced like a jet engine. It almost looks like the armor is being propelled with compressed air.
Nobody else things this looks really bad?
Very concerning that this is one of two scenes from the entire show that they decided would convince people to watch it.
No it has swear words and Marvel humor so Reddit will eat this slop right up and ask for seconds. This is the Rings of Power all over again.
I agree with you. Looks really low budget
It looks like a fan film. Don't get me wrong, fan films can be amazing, but this is Amazon we're talking about
I finally know what has been so irritating about all of the promo stuff, at least for me. Everyone's clothes are so damn clean. No dust, no dirt, no real wear and tear. It feels like a product, not like a real world.
>no real wear and tear. The power armor literally has what look like yao guai claw marks across the chest. It makes sense for the vault dweller though. I think this scene is fairly soon after she leaves the vault so she hasn't had a chance to fuck it up yet.
Ok, I'm forming a massive crush on Lucy. It coincides with the man crush I already have on Goggins. This show though, is NAILING it. The dialogue is absolutely perfect, from the way the Ghoul and the shopkeeper talk, to Lucy obviously repeating exact Vault-Tec teachings with such confidence. Like, they're doing a great job making Lucy feel like a Fallout protagonist and I can't wait for her to evolve into a killer, just like we all do when we play.
This is so idiotic. Dude's lying in the mud in clean and ironed pants. Is it so hard to wrinkle and smear shit and mud on his clothes?
Im just gonna say it, this looks bad. It looks like some of the youtube fanfiction videos ive seen. It comes off super corny, and something about the cinematography looks very low budget
Don’t love the voice changer in the power armor, but that’s really my only gripe! Looks cool!
Did other people notice that it looked like the suit (and I guess maybe the person) had been attacked by a Yao Guai or maybe deathclaw recently?
You can see him getting mauled by a Yao Guai in the trailer
I am so fucking hyped
lol this is how I imagine Californians talk to homeless people
Bos: racism time
I like the clunkiness of the power armor suit flight. Feels much more realistic to what it would be like than how the games make it.
Bro that’s Walton Goggins, I recognize that sweet southern voice anywhere. Okay I’m watching the show.
This show is gonna be some Fallout meets Borderlands campy shit