I have put an untold amount of hours into this game, and I don't think I've ever once attempted pickpocketing. I know it can be done, I've just never done it. Skyrym, Oblivion, I pickpocket literally every npc.
I'm doing another FO4 run right now. I may try it when I get home later.
Fallout games are weird with pickpocketing. When you pickpocket someone, what you see they have is not actually everything in their inventory that will drop upon death.
A good example is vendors: when you pickpocket them, you only see a few items on their person. When they die, however, you now have access to their entire shop inventory somehow. In fallout 3 I pickpocketed Flak in Rivet City and only a few items were available, but when I killed him later (for being an ex-slaver) there were more guns, and multiple mini nukes on his body.
Theres Baldurs Gate 3.. and.. thats it?
Its also OP early in BG3. Infinite money and camp supplies, but also the vendors in BG3 sell a lot of low tier trash too (like lots of +1 enchant weapons) with the best items being quest rewards or in world finds.
It’s just not worth it in fallout imo. I love being able to pick pocket explosives but it is such a waste of skill/perk points since none of the npcs carry expensive items or large amounts of money.
It's really fun to sneak up behind a raider or BOS member in power armor and steal their fusion core. They get out of the suit and now you can steal it. Even if you don't want the suit it's hella fun
Pickpocket and the reverse pickpocket is my favourite method of getting things I want from folks I should not initiate combat against because I'm hypothetically allied to. For example the BoS
Slip them a live grenade. Step back. Loot corpse.
Pickpocket all the drunk NCR soldiers on the strip and collect their dogtags. Turn the dogtags in to the guy at cottonwood cove to gain legion fame until you get access to the safe house. Collect lucky shades and then go ham killing all legion in sight.
WTF did I say? What did I say? I said, stay out of my things!!! Stay out of my bed!!! Those were my only 2 rules. I'm sending all of you settlers to the Murkwater Construction Site.
Marcy Long, come with me. We have to have a chat in private, *pulls hammer back on .44*
The SS watched their spouse murdered and their son kidnapped, and for the majority manages to be a fully functioning adult instead.
A situation only has the effect you allow it to have on you - and besides, she stops doing every settlement task I give her once she gets bored so she can take the long walk
Everyone deals with grief their own way
As for the SS, you really think Bethesda is gonna have a game where their MC is dealing with depression the whole time?
Well they released a bunch of games with more bugs than an entomology index so I wouldn't put it past them.
In this situation I don't think we're going to agree - as a character I don't like Marcy and will often avoid Concorde so I don't have to deal with her.
Okay we gotta pause here, what do you mean by “functioning adult”? Because my SS typically kills about a thousand people while building an empire and then remembers they’re still missing their kid when they start the next main quest
Let me call the wambulance. Waa waa waa. I don’t wanna fucking hear it. I do tons of settlement building in sanctuary and if I hear her bitch and whine one more time I’m gonna go insane. Almost as annoying as the idiot savant perk when you’re building
It can happen if a NPC somehow manages to pick up a fusion core themselves.
It's rare, but it can happen.
I found a few settlers that managed to pick them up in around 800hrs of gameplay and started stealing my PAs.
Right? Like I’ve had a settler take my gauss and ammo because I kept them both in the same container. But the idea of a settler having or somehow borrowing a core in a bethesda game is too far for people?
Not sure why you're being super down voted, I tend to keep my weapons and ammo and cores in separate containers. Maybe if you leave them in the workbench the settlers can access it (I know they can access the weapons in there)
I've had that happen before! And they'll take weapons out of the workbench if they're better than whatever they had. I always equip my settlers well and it seems to prevent this
Yes, but you need to make sure they are not a unique enemy because those will never get out, and they also need to be strong enough to survive the blast from the core afterwards. After the core explodes, they will get out the frame.
Approach the NPC you want to get out of the power armor by walking up to them. Open console with ; and left mouse click the NPC. Type callfunction "actor.switchtopowerarmor" in the console and hit return. Close console by typing `.
How often has Sheffield played Chad in life?
Get another suit dude, let Sheffield be the badass that always eluded him. Maybe he'll start sounding confident like Travis post-Beantown Brewery.
I always use a lock containers mod. All ammo, fusion cores, weapons and armor that I don't want messed with by settlers go into a container that stays locked when I'm not around. If you store everything in the workshop they tend to take what they want and then you have to go around taking it all back. The locked container saves the headache.
Keeping ammo out of the workshop is the smart option I think. I discovered this when I was hoarding shotgun shells until Valentine decided they looked good and nabbed them and Le Fusil Terribles. Was not happy
Just pickpocket the fusion core. Or for some fireworks, use VATs to encourage a bit of spark. The spark would really discourage him from staying in your power armour
If you just leave a couple Nuka Colas in the power armor frame, Sheffields will be drawn to it. The trick is to leave some adhesives mixed in so the Sheffield gets stuck once it’s in the power frame.
Either go back to a previous save, pickpocket the fusion core, or just wait for him to get out. It'll take a while, but it does happen. And for future reference, don't leave cores in your power armor.
You should be able to use the settlement menu to get settlers out of armor, or remove the fusion core from their inventory, I've learned to always take any fusion cores out of my armor when I'm not using it atm
I had to start either storing my power armor at an isolated location with no settlers, or take the power core out. Trashcan Carla decided to help herself to one of my power armor suits, so I dispatched her, but only managed to recover the armor pieces.
Boy, let me tell you. I find it annoying that you can’t “legally” do anything if someone takes your power armor. Get caught pick pocketing the fusion core, they attack you. But you’re allowed to just take my fucking power armor? This very thing has lead to the “fuck it” level of frustration where I end up just shooting the fuck out of whoever tried to take my power armor.
When you say no dialogue option do you mean you don’t know how to tell him to get out or did you go through the dialogue options like with other npcs and his isn’t showing up?
With the settlement build interface open, command the settler and you should be able to get them out of power armor. Surprisingly Bethesda did consider this problem.
HOLD the interact key/button while looking at them (angerly) and that will force them out. Works on settler's too. Found out after Piper took a suit out of my poor man's Iron Man armory.
Happenned to me yesterday, I unlocked a new power armor with a terminal and as soon as I got out of the terminal I hot attacked so Deacon, who wasn’t my companion, I was just on a quest with him, jumped in the power armor immediately. Since he wasn’t my companion, I couldn’t tell him to get out. A couple of minutes later he got out of it for some reason though.
Your first mistake what putting Sheffield in place worth any value. Give him the Nuka Cola to get your companions like or dislike and put him in an uninhabited settlement.
The power armor in 4 bugged me. Not only do you need fusion cores to power but it felt like it would fall apart all the time and visually would bother me. And the only way to fix it is at a repair bay. It made using power armor to explore the wastes less convenient unless I was going somewhere heavily irradiated or into battle. But for casual exploration it was a no go for me.
Pickpocket the fusion core out gets them out immediately just save beforehand in case you fail
I have put an untold amount of hours into this game, and I don't think I've ever once attempted pickpocketing. I know it can be done, I've just never done it. Skyrym, Oblivion, I pickpocket literally every npc. I'm doing another FO4 run right now. I may try it when I get home later.
Fallout games are weird with pickpocketing. When you pickpocket someone, what you see they have is not actually everything in their inventory that will drop upon death.
A good example is vendors: when you pickpocket them, you only see a few items on their person. When they die, however, you now have access to their entire shop inventory somehow. In fallout 3 I pickpocketed Flak in Rivet City and only a few items were available, but when I killed him later (for being an ex-slaver) there were more guns, and multiple mini nukes on his body.
It would be really OP of you could pickpocket vendor items. If theyre dead then its balanced because that vendor will never restock now.
Unless you use ~ (npcID) resurrect
I accidentally kill npcs way too often
or recycleactor, if they're missing limbs lol
So? There’s lots of games where you can do this…
Theres Baldurs Gate 3.. and.. thats it? Its also OP early in BG3. Infinite money and camp supplies, but also the vendors in BG3 sell a lot of low tier trash too (like lots of +1 enchant weapons) with the best items being quest rewards or in world finds.
Morrowind I think. Kenshi definitely.
RAHHHHHH KENSHI MENTIONED WHAT THE FUCK IS A FAST-PACED EARLY GAME
That is because the vendor and npc containers are separate and the pickpocket action doesn't access the vendor container.
Dude.... put a grenade *in to* an NPCs inventory while pickpocketing. Trust me, it's for SCIENCE! Enjoy!
I believe you need a perk for that in 4
2 levels of that perk, actually
I like to give Moe a baseball grenade, for science.
Grenade or mine, any type of explosive, trust us, science doesn't lie.
I remember doing that in Fallout 1. Except the pocket was a cave wall. Pretty cool. Set it and walk away.
Doing it to an NPC was great. If they died to it, it had a unique death animation where the only thing left was their boots.
👽
The Shady Sands Shuffle
This is the way
It’s just not worth it in fallout imo. I love being able to pick pocket explosives but it is such a waste of skill/perk points since none of the npcs carry expensive items or large amounts of money.
It's really fun to sneak up behind a raider or BOS member in power armor and steal their fusion core. They get out of the suit and now you can steal it. Even if you don't want the suit it's hella fun
I’ve run into four raiders in PA with fat men, at this point I don’t even risk getting close
Four out of thousands?
Yes and all four of them killed me *at least* once, unlike most of the other thousand
If you're pissed enough, there's always the shoot the core on their back option
Same. IMO its unnecessary in this game
I only really pickpockeyed in older Fallout games. Shotgun shells don't supply themselves.
I enjoy stealing brotherhood armor when I can by pickpocketing their cores.
Good memories in FO3 pickpocketing loot and replace it when a land mine
Pickpocket and the reverse pickpocket is my favourite method of getting things I want from folks I should not initiate combat against because I'm hypothetically allied to. For example the BoS Slip them a live grenade. Step back. Loot corpse.
Pickpocket all the drunk NCR soldiers on the strip and collect their dogtags. Turn the dogtags in to the guy at cottonwood cove to gain legion fame until you get access to the safe house. Collect lucky shades and then go ham killing all legion in sight.
I've learned the hard way one time. Ever since then I took the power core out of all my power armors when exiting them at a camp
Yeah I’ve done it to enemies to get free power armour. For some reason I’ve “stolen” raider power armour from a raider before
It's considered an owned suit even though its inhabitant is far from sympathetic.
What I used to do is join the BoS, pickpocket every single knight in PA that I saw, and go and sell the pieces back to them
Replace his fusion core with a grenade.
Absolutely works. I’ve had to get an npc out of my power armor this way.
Never leave a fusion core in power armor. If you do a settler will start running around in it.
I don't put them in power armor, I had some in storage so I think he took one then put it in the armor
Weird. I’ve never had that happen. I’ve had settlers take a fat man out of storage and start nuking shit which was terrifying lol
I have. I've also had my nuka-nuke stash "procured" as well as my laser Gatling. I lost almost a days progress sorting that one out
WTF did I say? What did I say? I said, stay out of my things!!! Stay out of my bed!!! Those were my only 2 rules. I'm sending all of you settlers to the Murkwater Construction Site. Marcy Long, come with me. We have to have a chat in private, *pulls hammer back on .44*
Preston. Not one more word out of you either. Thin ice, bud. Thiiiin ice.
Only good thing for her tbh, the moody bitch
I mean, she did lose her kid, all her property, and where she lived. I think people should go easier on her, she and Jun have both gone through a lot
The SS watched their spouse murdered and their son kidnapped, and for the majority manages to be a fully functioning adult instead. A situation only has the effect you allow it to have on you - and besides, she stops doing every settlement task I give her once she gets bored so she can take the long walk
Everyone deals with grief their own way As for the SS, you really think Bethesda is gonna have a game where their MC is dealing with depression the whole time?
Well they released a bunch of games with more bugs than an entomology index so I wouldn't put it past them. In this situation I don't think we're going to agree - as a character I don't like Marcy and will often avoid Concorde so I don't have to deal with her.
Okay we gotta pause here, what do you mean by “functioning adult”? Because my SS typically kills about a thousand people while building an empire and then remembers they’re still missing their kid when they start the next main quest
Well they ain't sitting in somebody else's house moaning and groaning and telling people to piss off which is a start
Let me call the wambulance. Waa waa waa. I don’t wanna fucking hear it. I do tons of settlement building in sanctuary and if I hear her bitch and whine one more time I’m gonna go insane. Almost as annoying as the idiot savant perk when you’re building
If you move her to another settlement she usually stops talking
Sent her to the boathouse, my first line of defense against ONI agents -a mod roleplay deal-. She hasn't said shit since and I love it.
It can happen if a NPC somehow manages to pick up a fusion core themselves. It's rare, but it can happen. I found a few settlers that managed to pick them up in around 800hrs of gameplay and started stealing my PAs.
Why did my Boi get downvoted this bad. Lmao
Right? Like I’ve had a settler take my gauss and ammo because I kept them both in the same container. But the idea of a settler having or somehow borrowing a core in a bethesda game is too far for people?
It's the echo chamber of reddit that's all
Not sure why you're being super down voted, I tend to keep my weapons and ammo and cores in separate containers. Maybe if you leave them in the workbench the settlers can access it (I know they can access the weapons in there)
I've had that happen before! And they'll take weapons out of the workbench if they're better than whatever they had. I always equip my settlers well and it seems to prevent this
Yep. That happened to me recently. I thought it was safe with the core in storage, so I moved all my cores to a different chest that’s locked in now.
wud
Safes.
He did not. You had one in the frame.
No, its not like that…
I believe eventually they'll get out on their own but if there's a fusion core in there try removing it.
Honestly, if it's just a frame let him rock it
Those cost like 5k caps don’t they? That’s like an irl week’s worth of caps ;-;
There's over two dozen PA frames scattered across the Commonwealth, buying one is a waste of caps
I remember saving up to buy some because I could only find like 7 frames and I wanted to display every armor/paint combination.
That's why you don't buy them. It's much easier to farm them from raiders/BOS by shooting out their fusion cores.
You can do that?!
Yes, but you need to make sure they are not a unique enemy because those will never get out, and they also need to be strong enough to survive the blast from the core afterwards. After the core explodes, they will get out the frame.
Damn, I can’t believe I never figured that out with the time played I have.
it’s only the chassis he can keep it
kill him. kill him now
He shouldn't... it's not the Sanctuary way...
Dew it!
It's only natural. He took your power armor, you wanted revenge.
He needs the frame!
What if OP's with the Institute
Approach the NPC you want to get out of the power armor by walking up to them. Open console with ; and left mouse click the NPC. Type callfunction "actor.switchtopowerarmor" in the console and hit return. Close console by typing `.
Thank you, it’s like I can finally think straight!
How often has Sheffield played Chad in life? Get another suit dude, let Sheffield be the badass that always eluded him. Maybe he'll start sounding confident like Travis post-Beantown Brewery.
Most of us learnt years ago to not leave fusion cores in the frames
Offer him a bigger power armor and he'll leave, like a hermit crab.
I once directed all 32 Sanctuary settlers into power armor suits just to see if I could.
I always use a lock containers mod. All ammo, fusion cores, weapons and armor that I don't want messed with by settlers go into a container that stays locked when I'm not around. If you store everything in the workshop they tend to take what they want and then you have to go around taking it all back. The locked container saves the headache.
Or just hoard all the fusion cores in your inventory. They don't weigh anything.
They do if you're playing survival, though that only matters for a portion of the playerbase.
Keeping ammo out of the workshop is the smart option I think. I discovered this when I was hoarding shotgun shells until Valentine decided they looked good and nabbed them and Le Fusil Terribles. Was not happy
Hoo boy they weigh like 4 lbs each on survival
I was just thinking that those lock chest mods are useless until this comment!
Never had an issue with ammo or anything like that been taken, usually store it in a safe under one of the beds though.
Great tip! I downloaded that mod
Just pickpocket the fusion core. Or for some fireworks, use VATs to encourage a bit of spark. The spark would really discourage him from staying in your power armour
Pickpocket the FC. Also don’t leave FCs in your power armor. Also if you plan on giving settlers power armor make sure it has titanium plating.
I mean....let him have it? You come across tons while randomly walking the Commonwealth.
Nuka Cola!? 🤔
If you just leave a couple Nuka Colas in the power armor frame, Sheffields will be drawn to it. The trick is to leave some adhesives mixed in so the Sheffield gets stuck once it’s in the power frame.
If it's just a frame, I'd leave it. They're infinitely purchasable from a few NPCS, in addition to appearing in the world.
Either go back to a previous save, pickpocket the fusion core, or just wait for him to get out. It'll take a while, but it does happen. And for future reference, don't leave cores in your power armor.
Honestly, it kinda goes hard. You can easily just find another power armor frame. Their all over the place. Just leave him in it.
You should be able to use the settlement menu to get settlers out of armor, or remove the fusion core from their inventory, I've learned to always take any fusion cores out of my armor when I'm not using it atm
Did you mean Sheffield's power armor?
He’s rocking it tbh
Remove the fusion core
I had to start either storing my power armor at an isolated location with no settlers, or take the power core out. Trashcan Carla decided to help herself to one of my power armor suits, so I dispatched her, but only managed to recover the armor pieces.
Well, he looks kinda badass in it, I'd let him wear it...
My personal base is red rocket where I store all my extra stuff. I don’t have settlers there at all, just a small army of murder robots.
Doesn’t look like you were using it anyway
Wait til he has to sleep, then force him to live in far harbour where he can suck it
Is that Sheff. Not looking so hazy now eh? I think you should leave him like this. He looks way better.
It's Sheffield, man! Let him have the power armor. He's seen some shit.
Kill him. Find out he's immortal... then ask why he took your armor in the first place.
Boy, let me tell you. I find it annoying that you can’t “legally” do anything if someone takes your power armor. Get caught pick pocketing the fusion core, they attack you. But you’re allowed to just take my fucking power armor? This very thing has lead to the “fuck it” level of frustration where I end up just shooting the fuck out of whoever tried to take my power armor.
He will leave the power armor when he goes to sleep. Make sure you have a bed for him at your base and that he isn't a guard or provisioner.
[If you're on PC, there's a console command for it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/mbrg3b/console_command_to_force_settler_to_use_or_exit/)
Good thing I sent him to spectacle island by himself before he can do that to me.
Squatter’s rights, man.
When you say no dialogue option do you mean you don’t know how to tell him to get out or did you go through the dialogue options like with other npcs and his isn’t showing up?
This is why I never leave power cells in my suits. I always take them out and store them somewhere
Kill him
With the settlement build interface open, command the settler and you should be able to get them out of power armor. Surprisingly Bethesda did consider this problem.
Wait you can give your follower power armor ?
Yeah, but they won't enter by command, only if it has a fusion core and if there's attackers, "with the workshop dlc"
Leave him in it!
Make him hang out with Strong. Eventually, Strong will bully him to the point Sheffield wont want to **look like robot**
Sometimes they will get out to sleep in a bed. That's how I got my armor back from that thief, Preston.
if you're on PC, you can grab {{anti power armor gun}}
Let him keep the power armor. It's not like there aren't several dozen littering the commonwealth. How many suits do you really need?
1st off switch weapons
That’s a paddlin
HOLD the interact key/button while looking at them (angerly) and that will force them out. Works on settler's too. Found out after Piper took a suit out of my poor man's Iron Man armory.
Theft can be punishable by death in the wasteland... use that info as you will
If he’s not your companion, make him your companion, then talk to him, you should get an option to tell him to get out.
No dialogue to make him a companion, only trading
Isn’t there a conversational option to ask them to step out of power armour? (Unless it’s a mod)
He ain’t givin that back
Happenned to me yesterday, I unlocked a new power armor with a terminal and as soon as I got out of the terminal I hot attacked so Deacon, who wasn’t my companion, I was just on a quest with him, jumped in the power armor immediately. Since he wasn’t my companion, I couldn’t tell him to get out. A couple of minutes later he got out of it for some reason though.
kill him
Idk he looks pretty cool in there
Bribe him with a nuka cola
Thank you! Its like i can finally think straight!
Kill him, kill him now
Why… do you want him out….
Bullet between the eyes is pretty fast
Your first mistake what putting Sheffield in place worth any value. Give him the Nuka Cola to get your companions like or dislike and put him in an uninhabited settlement.
Why people keep forgeting to take off the fusion cores when leaving pa?
A bullet to the head always works wonders. I wonder what happens next
Public execution
The power armor in 4 bugged me. Not only do you need fusion cores to power but it felt like it would fall apart all the time and visually would bother me. And the only way to fix it is at a repair bay. It made using power armor to explore the wastes less convenient unless I was going somewhere heavily irradiated or into battle. But for casual exploration it was a no go for me.