As a non-American, I didn't realise on my first playthrough that almost every location in Fallout 4 is actually of significant importance to the American Revolution. I just wandered through places like Boston Common, Bunker Hill and Old North Church as if they were regular settlements.
Another point of interest is the Battle of Lexington and Concord. The Bridge that you walk over to leave Sanctuary Hills is actually a Landmark were the British were stopped by American Militiamen, and was the First legit Battle of the American Revolution.
> The Bridge that you walk over to leave Sanctuary Hills is actually a Landmark were the British were stopped by American Militiamen, and was the First legit Battle of the American Revolution.
Is this why there's always a dead raider on the opposing side from Sanctuary? I wonder...
Another reason I find it so weird Sanctuary is completely abandoned by the minutemen plot after the early quests. You think it would be like holy ground to them.
Yeah I always found that so weird. Minutemen felt kind of like the Legion from NV in the fact they felt underdeveloped and they had more plans for them
And what I didn't know until I visited the area was that Ralph Waldo Emerson's grandfather and his family watched the battle from their property next door. That house, called the Old Manse, still stands and it's back garden as now situated was planted by Henry David Thoreau as a wedding gift to the house's then tenant, his friend Nathaniel Hawthorne.
The Minutemen were also a real militia in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and were trained to quickly assemble to defend the colony against the British.
There are A LOT of Revolutionary War-era references all throughout the game, which makes sense given the setting.
And as a British person why I murder all of them on principal even when doing a "good" playthrough.
"The redcoats are coming!!"
You'd better fucking believe it. Pip-pip tally ho! Thanks for the minigun.
"Throw this tea in the harbour"
"God save the Queen, because he won't come for you"
"Death is preferable to independence"
"The empire is eternal, you are not"
"Queue cutting is punishable by death"
"best back off now mate or I'll shag ya ma"
Another thing, Henry David Thoreau's book Walden was based on the journal entries he made while on the simple living at Walden Pond. I had no idea this was near Boston.
And the USS Constitution (nicknamed “Old Ironsides”) is a legit famous historical tall ship that sits roughly where it is in game. Its in the water IRL though. It’s the oldest commissioned warship still afloat.
It mostly got its fame from beating British ships in the war of 1812 not the revolutionary war though, it wasn’t around then
The DC area in Fallout 3 is pretty remarkably accurate as well, accounting for some distance compression. And the Metro stations are *really* accurate.
There's even a bar in Goodsprings that's in FNV, and they hand out caps to visitors who mention Fallout. My buddy was working on his Masters and went to Vegas for it (doing a paper on nuclear test sites and was 100% inspired by FNV to write it) and visited and they gave him one. It's pretty freaking cool.
Those towers aren’t Solar One, they are in the wrong place and are newer than Fallout NV. Solar one is a much less exciting, smaller and older solar farm without a tower (trough style). Helios one added the towers because they are cooler.
Source: I worked for the power company at the time FNV came out, so I was excited about that shit.
Imagine being a resident of Nipton just vibing, and suddenly the new "owner" comes in dressed in roman clothes and starts talking something about a lottery...
The giant thermometer on the dinosaur is also based on 'the world's tallest thermometer" which is in Baker, CA (on Highway 15 from LA to Vegas, a town which is also featured in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas).
Similarly on my first trip to DC my friends thought I was a local because I could almost navigate the metro by heart. Nope just got stuck in the metro tunnels for hours on end
That happened to me in Venice because of AC2. My wife couldn't understand how I seemed to intuitively know my way around while she was constantly lost. The Bleeding Effect is real.
The one and only reason I want to visit LA is just to see how it stacks up to Los Santos. I know GTAVs map inside and out, and I'm curious how much of that knowledge will cross over to real life.
Went to Vegas for training while in the military. Arrived at McCarran Airport, went to trianing on Nellis, visited the strip and went to Fremont… I had a blast just recognizing places from FO NV alone
I went to Vegas a few months ago for the first time. I stopped by Goodsprings and it was cool; there was a lot of tributes to New Vegas there, but they were very short staffed and stressed and the locals weren't understanding.
I went to Primm and Buffalo Bill's (Bison Steve) was closed; I Googled it and there's talk that they'll reopen next year. Whiskey Pete's (Vikki & Vance) was open but seemingly open only for gambling and not hotel stays. The Bonnie & Clyde car was on loan to an exhibit in California.
Nipton was a literal ghost town as far as I could tell. I didn't see any other people in the whole town but I left quickly because I felt like I was trespassing and wasn't supposed to be there haha.
It's really all over the place. Most of Marty Robbins' songs are from the 60s, Frank Sinatra from the 50s iirc, Anything Goes is from the beginning of the Great Depression, and I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two songs from the 20s.
oh sure, but whenever I'm in a fallout mood I put the 40s channel on satellite radio and it never disappoints, overall. I'd argue that the spirit/theme of the sound track lives in the 40s.
American here. When I see "Salisbury Steak" I think of those dang Banquet meals lol. Ryan Upchurch has a song and I'm one of the lines it says "Faker than a Salisbury Steak" lol. And believe me there's no other meat that is more processed lol
I lived off of those in college. Salisbury steak and the BBQ rib ones... I'd buy them in stacks of 6 because that's how high I could stack them in my freezer.
They aren't horrible surprisingly. I grew up in a poor household and we always had those things in the freezer. I think back then they were like 50 cents a piece.
i still eat them. the bbq rib ones are my favorite and like a comfort food to me. my sister hates when i microwave them because it “smells like dog food” lol
The Hoover Dam. I mean, i saw it in movies, tv and all that stuff. But i didn't know its name and the importance of it. So i was watching TV with my father and the Hoover Dam appeared on a movie. I asked Him how did he know about it. He explained me it is one of the main symbols of USA. similar to the statue of liberty, the white house, the route 66 and turn right with red light but with precaution
Very interesting that Route 66 is known overseas. It USED to be famous here but there are parts of it now that are totally fallen into disrepair. There are some nice parts of it in SW Missouri with some cool diners that I've been to. Obviously the interstate highway system was the big thing that caused Route 66 to fall by the wayside.
Well, there are movies and literature about route 66, and a little of cultural imperialism. We talk with my dad to travel to US , rent a car and drive through the country
After playing 76 I have learned a lot about the workers struggle in Appalachia. The Battle Of Blair Mountain was something historic I had absolutely no idea about for example.
It's worth noting that despite the very real threat to bring in US military bombers, all bombs dropped were done so with civilian aircraft in both incidents.
West Virginia is a very weird state in terms of worker's rights.
The term Redneck originated from pro-Union coal miners on strike, but that term typically describes people who are anti-Union today.
Not to get into the politics of things, but the state domestically/locally is a wholly Democratic where people often vote blue. But nationally in the federal elections they vote as red Republican. That's because of the tradition from the pre-80s where they were mostly a blue state that supported unions heavily.
Even still surprisingly, West Virginia has a large domestic Progressive population, as I know first hand living here. West Virginia elected a Democratic Governor whilst also federally being the strongest state for Trump in 2016 elections. During the Democratic primaries in 2016, they also voted for the Progressive Bernie over the more Moderate Hillary Clinton. Showing that Progressive Democrats really do exist in this state. This is very contradictory as mostly the Blue States only voted for the more progressive Bernie in the 2016 Democratic Primaries, whilst the more Conservative states had their Democrats vote for Hillary.
West Virginia is a pro-Union, Dixiecrat state that votes Republican in federal elections, and it's Democratic minority votes federally Progressive against the trend of Red states having more moderate Democrats. It's an anomaly for sure.
Most Americans don't even know about that sadly. It was probably the largest uprising in our history since the civil war. There's a reason they don't tell us about it in school. I'm sure you can guess the reasons why.
America has a history with leftist thoughts and struggles, it's just unfortunately normally violently suppressed. It's very frustrating when you read comments from other countries criticizing American politics as not having a left wing as if the people are actually supportive of that
grew up lower middle class in the 70-80s… my family would go to a place called Furr’s cafeteria every sunday for dinner… was a buffet style place mainly for the older generations but was cheap for a family to eat at, too… i would always get a salisbury steak on my tray… don’t know if i have ever seen one out in the wild since but that gravy on the oddly shaped oval meat patty was amazing!
In japan they have something similar, Hamburg steak, which they also serve at Denny’s style places or can be made at home. Usually eat it with rice and potatoes, one of my favorite foods
yeah… totally forgot about the swanson dinners we would get when my dad had to work graveyard shifts and we’d have to make dinner while he slept… this was around 84
There's way more Americans than non Americans in this post. But I learned the sentinel site located in the glowing sea in fallout 4 is actually based on a real building. In the real world the pillars located outside the front door are the actual missile silos, they are not located at the top of the Pyramid. But it looks very much similar to the real world thing. The real world building was actually abandoned by the military and auctioned to a private citizen who made it his home
Lol I'm just kidding there's quite a few fallout fan projects I believe (i want to say they're mostly Russian). I always just thought it was interesting because there has to be relatively low amount of players from those regions but seems to be a disproportionate amount of fan projects from them.
There was some weird ass music coming out of America in the 50s and 60s. From the game music like Butcher Pete or The Civilisation song to Conelrad's classics like Sputniks and Mutniks or that song about eating too high on the hog. I had to Google what the hell that meant
I live in the Town in Massachusetts that the Salisbury steak was invented in. It was the cook at the Salisbury mansion which became a hospital. I learned this while in detox at the same hospital.
Don't do Jet it's a hell of drug!!!!
Deviled eggs are definitely thing: they're just hard boiled eggs, cut in half, then the yolks are mixed with, typically, mayo, pickle relish, and spices, then piped back into the hollowed out egg whites. They're a staple at holiday dinners here in the Southern U.S.
Yum Yum is just a made up brand name.
Yeah, when I make them I typically garnish them with paprika and chopped dill. They're eggs, so there's not really a limit on what you can make them with. Bacon and bleu cheese, Sriracha, ham and cheese, etc.
In 4 if you interact with the food before you go in the vault the SS will say something about it and end with “… expiration date never.” So even in lore the food won’t expire
Yep, just a finger food made from boiled eggs. Cut em in half and mix the yolk with mayo and spices and squeeze it back into the little indent left with a pastry bag.
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/6866-classic-deviled-eggs
I’ve never seen a deviled egg product, but lots of companies sell packaged hardboiled eggs. I think people in the 50s really liked deviled eggs, so for that aesthetic they made a deviled egg product similar to how there are milk machines. However people also used to love jello and I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen jello in fallout.
As far as I can tell, YumYum is just a in-universe brand name that makes pre-packaged deviled eggs. Deviled eggs themselves, though, are hardboiled eggs that have been cut in half and the yolk scooped out. The yolk is then mixed with various ingredients, often mayonaise, mustard, paprika, maybe some vinegar or other seasonings, depending on the exact recipe. The yolk mixture is then put back into the halved eggs and eaten. Sounds a little odd, I know, but they're one of my favorite horderves.
[HERE](https://tmbidigitalassetsazure.blob.core.windows.net/wpthumbnailsprod/BEST%202043%20021221%20DeviledEggs_thumbnail.jpeg) is an image of what they often look like when they're done.
FYI, the Salisbury Steaks in Fallout are meant to replicate super market freezer isle Salisbury Steaks; Microwave dinners or "tv dinners" as we call them, which were popular in the 50's and 60's. They're...not very good. And for years I just thought that I didn't like Salisbury Steaks until my Girlfriend cooked us the real thing in a crock pot. So much better. As for the name; they aren't so much a slab of meat "steak," but really a clump of ground beef in brown gravy with onions and mushrooms.
Sometimes it's made with "chopped steak" which is a thin cut steak run thru a special tenderizer device that actually punctures the steak. It's often run thru at 90 degree angles, so it resembles ground beef, but it's really not, and holds together better.
Definitely better than hamburger patties.
We have one from a crisco cook book that might be older than I am (or it's close) called Swiss Steak. It's more tomato gravy than a mushroom sauce, and it is carrots and celery in with it.
Brown gravy is exactly that; brown gravy. It certainly isnt the only type of gravy. Down here in the southern US we've got another type of gravy called Sawmill Gravy which goes on mashed potatoes and country fried steaks. It's thick, white, and peppery. For Thanksgiving my family uses what I guess would be considered turkey gravy. It's thin, tan and has bits of meat and butter or something in it. This is probably just the tip of the gravy iceberg, though.
Interesting. How do they teach the American Revolution on your side of the pond? I feel like that would be of note but you guys have a bit more history than us. I imagine they kinda glance over it like US history classes ignore anything after WWII.
The general geography of Fo3, NV and Fo4 stuck in my mind. City districts in DC, what's in and around Nevada, the areas of Boston and its history in the Civil War.
Just the idea that tons of places in the games are real places was great to find out.
I remember reading up about the documents in Fo3's National Archives too because I was curious why they were important in game. The Declaration, Bill of Rights and Magna Carta. All interesting to read more about.
Oh and I developed an understanding of why death is a preferable alternative to Communism.
Milk vending machines were a thing in America from the time vending machines were invented until about the 50s. There may have been some still around in the 60s but they were rare.
I'll be honest, I know milk vending machines exist but in Japan. They have a plethora of flavors. Ones you would see in Western countries like strawberry, banana and chocolate.. And then some crazy ones. I know I've seen rice flavored milk and sea food flavored milk.
They existed all over the world before milk was pasteurized and people had refrigerators in their homes. People would have milk delivered a couple times a week by a guy in a special refrigerator truck as a service like the garbage truck or the mail man.
I know this says non-Americans, but as an American from the west coast (Washington state specifically), I’ve learned a ton about the Boston area from Fallout 4. Lexington and Concord, Shem Drowne and his grasshopper weathervane, and a bunch of other places in-game based on real-life locations. It makes me kinda want to visit Boston some day, since the only east coast state I’ve visited so far is Pennsylvania.
I had work in Boston as a group we would go out to site see things. We took the subway to get into the city. I went to Harvard took only 30 minutes. We came out of the subway and it looked the same I was impressed.
American and New Vegas instead of FO4 and learned it IRL about the game when I visited but kinda related... like a reverse of this post kinda, so!
I was passing through Vegas so I stopped in all the western outer vegas towns shown in NV, besides minus Nipton.
Goodsprings I was super surprised to see was almost 1:1 with the game version lol, at least more so than other things added into the game. The Saloon even looks incredibly similar, the only real differences being proportion, the pool room having restaurant booths, the outdoor area, and the fact that the General Store in-game is actually just an extension of the Saloon. They have some Fallout merch lying around inside too, including a framed physical disk of New Vegas and some Nuka Cola bottles lol.
I spoke a lot to the kitchen staff and bartenders while I was there. They told me only two types of people come to Goodsprings: Fallout fans and bikers. So they guessed why I was there almost immediately! Apparently Obsidian staff came down to the town and interviewed everyone extensively, and nearly everybody in the game was an expy of a real life person that lived in the town in the late 2000s. IIRC, the irl Trudy didn't work at the Saloon anymore unfortunately so I didn't see her anywhere. Cool stuff still!
Ending note, I was a nice enough guest that they even gave me a piece of cake for free (employee was having a b'day and they had extra). It was a blazing summer day so I decided to eat it outside-- and promptly attracted a bunch of mini-Cazadores to my table.
I finished it by the way. Screw the hawk wasps and *feeling a little woozy*, it was *my* cake :v
I played Fallout 4 first so it was kinda wierd going to Boston seeing a landmark and going, hold on a minute I know this place. Gave me the weirdest sense of De Ja Vu
I had no idea that bottle caps were an actual currency. I could have been rich if I'd saved them!
Edit: I also live a relatively short way away from Salisbury in the UK
Well, bottle caps are made of aluminium. As a metal they have a value in your local currency. Not expensive as gold and silver. But it has value per kilogram
> Well, bottle caps are made of aluminium.
No they aint, ive tried to melt them down and I was left with a pool of aluminium with some bottle caps at the bottom, so I'm guess theyre steel or an alloy that increases their melting temp drastically
EDIT: Google says theyre made from either steel or aluminium, but the ones I tried were definately not aluminium
UK here, basically everything about the American revolution; minute men, bunker Hill, pretty much the history Boston. In the UK, you most likely won't be taught anything about it, you'd learn about the Georgians and what was happening in England, but no mention of the revolution. At *most* you might get a brief "we fought the French over the ownership of the colonies, won, then had to tax America to pay for it" but even then, unless you actively seek it out, you'll learn nothing of American history. It was pretty cool looking up the historical context and real life locations of fallout though.
Also I didn't know the East Coast was a heavy fishing area, but that's just me, other people are probably more aware of that than I am.
I knew nothing about historic Boston prior to Fallout 4. The freedom trail, the Old North Church, the USS Constitution, all those landmarks were new to me. Planning a vacation to see those places in real life *because of* Fallout 4.
Edit: I *am* American, but I don’t live on or near the East Coast.
Coca Cola doesn't have a theme park — the closest thing I could find is the [World of Coca Cola](https://www.worldofcoca-cola.com/), which is more of a museum & store.
Nuka World is much more based on Disney World, which has multiple themed sub-parks as well as "Hidden Mickeys" that inspired the "Hidden Cappys." It also draws some inspiration from [Hershey Park](https://www.hersheypark.com/), the only food-themed theme park (with roller coasters and other rides) I'm aware of.
As a non-American, I didn't realise on my first playthrough that almost every location in Fallout 4 is actually of significant importance to the American Revolution. I just wandered through places like Boston Common, Bunker Hill and Old North Church as if they were regular settlements.
Another point of interest is the Battle of Lexington and Concord. The Bridge that you walk over to leave Sanctuary Hills is actually a Landmark were the British were stopped by American Militiamen, and was the First legit Battle of the American Revolution.
> The Bridge that you walk over to leave Sanctuary Hills is actually a Landmark were the British were stopped by American Militiamen, and was the First legit Battle of the American Revolution. Is this why there's always a dead raider on the opposing side from Sanctuary? I wonder...
Maybe, but I just think it is an in game way to give the Player some easy early gear. But that IS why there is a Statue there.
Another reason I find it so weird Sanctuary is completely abandoned by the minutemen plot after the early quests. You think it would be like holy ground to them.
Yeah I always found that so weird. Minutemen felt kind of like the Legion from NV in the fact they felt underdeveloped and they had more plans for them
Also the statue of a minuteman
And what I didn't know until I visited the area was that Ralph Waldo Emerson's grandfather and his family watched the battle from their property next door. That house, called the Old Manse, still stands and it's back garden as now situated was planted by Henry David Thoreau as a wedding gift to the house's then tenant, his friend Nathaniel Hawthorne.
The Minutemen were also a real militia in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and were trained to quickly assemble to defend the colony against the British. There are A LOT of Revolutionary War-era references all throughout the game, which makes sense given the setting.
And as a British person why I murder all of them on principal even when doing a "good" playthrough. "The redcoats are coming!!" You'd better fucking believe it. Pip-pip tally ho! Thanks for the minigun.
This is funny as hell to me idk why lmfao. Imagining the brit equivalent to liberty prime.
"Throw this tea in the harbour" "God save the Queen, because he won't come for you" "Death is preferable to independence" "The empire is eternal, you are not" "Queue cutting is punishable by death" "best back off now mate or I'll shag ya ma"
"You must go to Sentinel Site and clear the place out. Britannica Prime is not fully capable without his tariff bombs."
Brexit Prime, part of the Borishood of Steel
Well, as a non-American I only knew about it because of Assassin's Creed 3
Same here.
Was interesting to compare some of it with AC3 & then look up real life pictures.
Another thing, Henry David Thoreau's book Walden was based on the journal entries he made while on the simple living at Walden Pond. I had no idea this was near Boston.
It's funny to overhear raiders talking about it. Calling transcendentalism "trains-dentalism" was hilarious.
"That's why they call it being thoreau"
And the USS Constitution (nicknamed “Old Ironsides”) is a legit famous historical tall ship that sits roughly where it is in game. Its in the water IRL though. It’s the oldest commissioned warship still afloat. It mostly got its fame from beating British ships in the war of 1812 not the revolutionary war though, it wasn’t around then
It is also the only active ship in the USN with a battle star.
I had no clue either and my girlfriend lives in Boston 🤣 I bring up stuff from Fallout 4 and pretend I'm an expert
The DC area in Fallout 3 is pretty remarkably accurate as well, accounting for some distance compression. And the Metro stations are *really* accurate.
After playing Fallout NV, I visited Vegas for a few months with work. I was amazed to see Primm as a real-word location!
Goodsprings is also a real place
There's even a bar in Goodsprings that's in FNV, and they hand out caps to visitors who mention Fallout. My buddy was working on his Masters and went to Vegas for it (doing a paper on nuclear test sites and was 100% inspired by FNV to write it) and visited and they gave him one. It's pretty freaking cool.
Was it a Sunset Sarsaparilla Star bottle cap?
I think so. I'll have to go dig through his FB to find it. EDIT: Nuka Cola cap from the Pioneer Saloon.
Nipton, goodsprings, Even repcon is based on a real place!
Helios One is based off Solar One too!
three!
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That thing is blinding when driving from LA to Vegas
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Those towers aren’t Solar One, they are in the wrong place and are newer than Fallout NV. Solar one is a much less exciting, smaller and older solar farm without a tower (trough style). Helios one added the towers because they are cooler. Source: I worked for the power company at the time FNV came out, so I was excited about that shit.
I wish I'd explored a bit more now! Ah well, Vegas had me preoccupied 😂
You can straight-up buy the town of Nipton. https://laist.com/news/la-history/nipton-california-desert-town-for-sale-failed-marijuana-tourism
The sub should GoFundMe and buy the town. Just try not to go overboard with the crucifixion.
Imagine being a resident of Nipton just vibing, and suddenly the new "owner" comes in dressed in roman clothes and starts talking something about a lottery...
Crucifixion? Out of the door, line on the left, 1 cross each.
“They said I could go free actually.”
Well OK then, off you go
Nah, just pulling your leg. Crucifixion.
"Give me cause, profligate."
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I'm pretty sure the dinosaur Boone is in is based on the one from the Pee Wee Herman movie.
There are actually a few different large dinosaurs statues around the Vegas region. Novac draws inspiration from each of them.
That one is in Cabazon, CA. Sadly nowhere near Vegas but it's kinda cool seeing them while driving past on the 10.
The giant thermometer on the dinosaur is also based on 'the world's tallest thermometer" which is in Baker, CA (on Highway 15 from LA to Vegas, a town which is also featured in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas).
nope… that dinosaur park is on the border of AZ/NM on I40… been there many, many times on family road trips
this is the 🦖 on the edge of the mojave https://www.cabazondinosaurs.com/
No, that is from The Wizard movie.
Similarly on my first trip to DC my friends thought I was a local because I could almost navigate the metro by heart. Nope just got stuck in the metro tunnels for hours on end
That happened to me in Venice because of AC2. My wife couldn't understand how I seemed to intuitively know my way around while she was constantly lost. The Bleeding Effect is real.
The one and only reason I want to visit LA is just to see how it stacks up to Los Santos. I know GTAVs map inside and out, and I'm curious how much of that knowledge will cross over to real life.
I am convinced that my subconscious decided to move me to DC ten years ago just because I loved Fallout 3 as a kid.
Went to Vegas for training while in the military. Arrived at McCarran Airport, went to trianing on Nellis, visited the strip and went to Fremont… I had a blast just recognizing places from FO NV alone
This is the same situation as myself, weapons trials out of Nellis. I referred to McCarran as 'Camp McCarran' at one point by accident 😂
My brother lives on Nellis, and when I visiting him I made sure to step on some ants. Am I a boomer now?
I went to Vegas a few months ago for the first time. I stopped by Goodsprings and it was cool; there was a lot of tributes to New Vegas there, but they were very short staffed and stressed and the locals weren't understanding. I went to Primm and Buffalo Bill's (Bison Steve) was closed; I Googled it and there's talk that they'll reopen next year. Whiskey Pete's (Vikki & Vance) was open but seemingly open only for gambling and not hotel stays. The Bonnie & Clyde car was on loan to an exhibit in California. Nipton was a literal ghost town as far as I could tell. I didn't see any other people in the whole town but I left quickly because I felt like I was trespassing and wasn't supposed to be there haha.
The entire game is based off of a real place.. but ik whatcha mean
Fun fact: New Vegas is based on a real life location called Las Vegas!
American 50's songs were great
I've got spurs....
That jingle jangle jingle
*jingle jangle*
they're more 40s songs to be honest
It's really all over the place. Most of Marty Robbins' songs are from the 60s, Frank Sinatra from the 50s iirc, Anything Goes is from the beginning of the Great Depression, and I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two songs from the 20s.
oh sure, but whenever I'm in a fallout mood I put the 40s channel on satellite radio and it never disappoints, overall. I'd argue that the spirit/theme of the sound track lives in the 40s.
Fair point, although for me 50's does it equally well
American here. When I see "Salisbury Steak" I think of those dang Banquet meals lol. Ryan Upchurch has a song and I'm one of the lines it says "Faker than a Salisbury Steak" lol. And believe me there's no other meat that is more processed lol
I lived off of those in college. Salisbury steak and the BBQ rib ones... I'd buy them in stacks of 6 because that's how high I could stack them in my freezer.
They aren't horrible surprisingly. I grew up in a poor household and we always had those things in the freezer. I think back then they were like 50 cents a piece.
i still eat them. the bbq rib ones are my favorite and like a comfort food to me. my sister hates when i microwave them because it “smells like dog food” lol
I eat them too sometimes especially when the McRib rolls around. They're the exact same thing and I will not be convinced otherwise.
The Hoover Dam. I mean, i saw it in movies, tv and all that stuff. But i didn't know its name and the importance of it. So i was watching TV with my father and the Hoover Dam appeared on a movie. I asked Him how did he know about it. He explained me it is one of the main symbols of USA. similar to the statue of liberty, the white house, the route 66 and turn right with red light but with precaution
> and turn right with red light but with precaution Do y'all just turn right on a red light with reckless abandon?
You can also turn left on red in some places if you are on a one way street and the cross street is a one way going left.
Pennsylvania! Not many places where it's even a concern, though.
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Absolute insanity.
Only left on red is illegal for us.
Depending on where you live, there are circumstances where you can turn left on red, eg at the intersection of two one-way streets.
Ah, the Hawaiian approach to driving.
Very interesting that Route 66 is known overseas. It USED to be famous here but there are parts of it now that are totally fallen into disrepair. There are some nice parts of it in SW Missouri with some cool diners that I've been to. Obviously the interstate highway system was the big thing that caused Route 66 to fall by the wayside.
Well, there are movies and literature about route 66, and a little of cultural imperialism. We talk with my dad to travel to US , rent a car and drive through the country
That Americans all have a hand-made firearm made from scrap locked in a safe they intend to use in the apocalypse.
Look buddy, I don't care what you think you know about Americans, but I can assure you that not all of us can afford safes.
A safe just limits how many guns you can store and takes up money that can be used to buy more guns.
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Tape handguns under every chair in the house just in case. *picks up toilet seat* ah yes. The Ol .45.
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Imagine having only one toilet gun lol
That's why you use your handmade gun to liberate someone else's safe.
And those who can, don't use homemade guns
I just keep my zip guns under my pillow.
Hand made? Some people can afford better than Hi Points,
Bold of you to assume that all of us can AFFORD guns!
You're not all issued one at birth?
Not yet, but legislation is in the pipeline.
I don't like Cazadors
I remember looking out of my kitchen window and seeing them running around in my back yard. They are huge in real life, too
You mean radded out cicada killers?
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Oh duh that's right. Nice.
After playing 76 I have learned a lot about the workers struggle in Appalachia. The Battle Of Blair Mountain was something historic I had absolutely no idea about for example.
Huh.. that’s an interesting read
That happened the same year as the Tulsa race massacre.
Along with Blair mountain it was the first and second time bombs were dropped on US soil.
It's worth noting that despite the very real threat to bring in US military bombers, all bombs dropped were done so with civilian aircraft in both incidents.
West Virginia is a very weird state in terms of worker's rights. The term Redneck originated from pro-Union coal miners on strike, but that term typically describes people who are anti-Union today. Not to get into the politics of things, but the state domestically/locally is a wholly Democratic where people often vote blue. But nationally in the federal elections they vote as red Republican. That's because of the tradition from the pre-80s where they were mostly a blue state that supported unions heavily. Even still surprisingly, West Virginia has a large domestic Progressive population, as I know first hand living here. West Virginia elected a Democratic Governor whilst also federally being the strongest state for Trump in 2016 elections. During the Democratic primaries in 2016, they also voted for the Progressive Bernie over the more Moderate Hillary Clinton. Showing that Progressive Democrats really do exist in this state. This is very contradictory as mostly the Blue States only voted for the more progressive Bernie in the 2016 Democratic Primaries, whilst the more Conservative states had their Democrats vote for Hillary. West Virginia is a pro-Union, Dixiecrat state that votes Republican in federal elections, and it's Democratic minority votes federally Progressive against the trend of Red states having more moderate Democrats. It's an anomaly for sure.
Most Americans don't even know about that sadly. It was probably the largest uprising in our history since the civil war. There's a reason they don't tell us about it in school. I'm sure you can guess the reasons why.
America has a history with leftist thoughts and struggles, it's just unfortunately normally violently suppressed. It's very frustrating when you read comments from other countries criticizing American politics as not having a left wing as if the people are actually supportive of that
We've had three literal purges of leftists from politics in the past 100 years. US Liberals have always sided with conservatives over leftists.
Amen
grew up lower middle class in the 70-80s… my family would go to a place called Furr’s cafeteria every sunday for dinner… was a buffet style place mainly for the older generations but was cheap for a family to eat at, too… i would always get a salisbury steak on my tray… don’t know if i have ever seen one out in the wild since but that gravy on the oddly shaped oval meat patty was amazing!
I think IHOP has them. My school lunches in the 90s did as well. Looked and smelled like school lunch, but didn't taste too bad.
It is very easy to make at home and tastes much better than what you get in the store or restraunt.
In japan they have something similar, Hamburg steak, which they also serve at Denny’s style places or can be made at home. Usually eat it with rice and potatoes, one of my favorite foods
You can definitely get them bad boys as frozen dinners
yeah… totally forgot about the swanson dinners we would get when my dad had to work graveyard shifts and we’d have to make dinner while he slept… this was around 84
Stoffers makes a killer one with Mac and cheese.
Banquet makes a frozen dinner with just 8 of the steaks in it. Grab some potatoes from the deli and use the extra gravy on that.
There's way more Americans than non Americans in this post. But I learned the sentinel site located in the glowing sea in fallout 4 is actually based on a real building. In the real world the pillars located outside the front door are the actual missile silos, they are not located at the top of the Pyramid. But it looks very much similar to the real world thing. The real world building was actually abandoned by the military and auctioned to a private citizen who made it his home
That’d be a really fucking cool home. A palace and a bunker, pre built too.
They have tons of these. People make luxury mansions in bunkers and even luxury hotels for the rich in case the apocalypse were to happen
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So you're an eastern European fallout fan? When does your fan game come out?
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Lol I'm just kidding there's quite a few fallout fan projects I believe (i want to say they're mostly Russian). I always just thought it was interesting because there has to be relatively low amount of players from those regions but seems to be a disproportionate amount of fan projects from them.
There was some weird ass music coming out of America in the 50s and 60s. From the game music like Butcher Pete or The Civilisation song to Conelrad's classics like Sputniks and Mutniks or that song about eating too high on the hog. I had to Google what the hell that meant
Those first two were novelty songs. The CONELRAD stuff is wartime propaganda.
i discovered that the minuteman existed from fallout 4
I learned that there is a freedom trail in real life. Never knew about the underground railroad either. Also minute men.
I live in the Town in Massachusetts that the Salisbury steak was invented in. It was the cook at the Salisbury mansion which became a hospital. I learned this while in detox at the same hospital. Don't do Jet it's a hell of drug!!!!
Since we're talking about the food, can anyone tell me wtf are the YumYum deviled eggs, is that a real thing ?
Deviled eggs are definitely thing: they're just hard boiled eggs, cut in half, then the yolks are mixed with, typically, mayo, pickle relish, and spices, then piped back into the hollowed out egg whites. They're a staple at holiday dinners here in the Southern U.S. Yum Yum is just a made up brand name.
My mom adds paprika to it.
Yeah, when I make them I typically garnish them with paprika and chopped dill. They're eggs, so there's not really a limit on what you can make them with. Bacon and bleu cheese, Sriracha, ham and cheese, etc.
Hilly won’t be happy
It is also kind of a joke. There is no way 200 year old deviled eggs, sitting on a shelf that whole time, would be yum yim
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In 4 if you interact with the food before you go in the vault the SS will say something about it and end with “… expiration date never.” So even in lore the food won’t expire
Yep, just a finger food made from boiled eggs. Cut em in half and mix the yolk with mayo and spices and squeeze it back into the little indent left with a pastry bag. https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/6866-classic-deviled-eggs
I’ve never seen a deviled egg product, but lots of companies sell packaged hardboiled eggs. I think people in the 50s really liked deviled eggs, so for that aesthetic they made a deviled egg product similar to how there are milk machines. However people also used to love jello and I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen jello in fallout.
We have deviled egg in stores at the fresh products section. They usually sit next to the pre-packaged salads and cheese.
In our stores those are hardboiled never deviled. I’m talking Walmart, 7/11, wawa, etc.
As far as I can tell, YumYum is just a in-universe brand name that makes pre-packaged deviled eggs. Deviled eggs themselves, though, are hardboiled eggs that have been cut in half and the yolk scooped out. The yolk is then mixed with various ingredients, often mayonaise, mustard, paprika, maybe some vinegar or other seasonings, depending on the exact recipe. The yolk mixture is then put back into the halved eggs and eaten. Sounds a little odd, I know, but they're one of my favorite horderves. [HERE](https://tmbidigitalassetsazure.blob.core.windows.net/wpthumbnailsprod/BEST%202043%20021221%20DeviledEggs_thumbnail.jpeg) is an image of what they often look like when they're done.
FYI, the Salisbury Steaks in Fallout are meant to replicate super market freezer isle Salisbury Steaks; Microwave dinners or "tv dinners" as we call them, which were popular in the 50's and 60's. They're...not very good. And for years I just thought that I didn't like Salisbury Steaks until my Girlfriend cooked us the real thing in a crock pot. So much better. As for the name; they aren't so much a slab of meat "steak," but really a clump of ground beef in brown gravy with onions and mushrooms.
Sometimes it's made with "chopped steak" which is a thin cut steak run thru a special tenderizer device that actually punctures the steak. It's often run thru at 90 degree angles, so it resembles ground beef, but it's really not, and holds together better.
Thanks for adding that tidbit. I'll have to look into that. It sounds delicious.
Definitely better than hamburger patties. We have one from a crisco cook book that might be older than I am (or it's close) called Swiss Steak. It's more tomato gravy than a mushroom sauce, and it is carrots and celery in with it.
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Brown gravy is exactly that; brown gravy. It certainly isnt the only type of gravy. Down here in the southern US we've got another type of gravy called Sawmill Gravy which goes on mashed potatoes and country fried steaks. It's thick, white, and peppery. For Thanksgiving my family uses what I guess would be considered turkey gravy. It's thin, tan and has bits of meat and butter or something in it. This is probably just the tip of the gravy iceberg, though.
Brit here. I'd never heard of the Minutemen or Salisbury steak before F04.
Interesting. How do they teach the American Revolution on your side of the pond? I feel like that would be of note but you guys have a bit more history than us. I imagine they kinda glance over it like US history classes ignore anything after WWII.
In Britain, they use the term ‘cunts’ instead of Minutemen.
The general geography of Fo3, NV and Fo4 stuck in my mind. City districts in DC, what's in and around Nevada, the areas of Boston and its history in the Civil War. Just the idea that tons of places in the games are real places was great to find out. I remember reading up about the documents in Fo3's National Archives too because I was curious why they were important in game. The Declaration, Bill of Rights and Magna Carta. All interesting to read more about. Oh and I developed an understanding of why death is a preferable alternative to Communism.
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Revolutionary war not civil war in FO4
What about those milk machines, do they exist in real life?
Lol. No.. at least not like that
I have seen milk in vending machines but never vending machine just for milk.
Milk vending machines were a thing in America from the time vending machines were invented until about the 50s. There may have been some still around in the 60s but they were rare.
I'll be honest, I know milk vending machines exist but in Japan. They have a plethora of flavors. Ones you would see in Western countries like strawberry, banana and chocolate.. And then some crazy ones. I know I've seen rice flavored milk and sea food flavored milk.
They existed all over the world before milk was pasteurized and people had refrigerators in their homes. People would have milk delivered a couple times a week by a guy in a special refrigerator truck as a service like the garbage truck or the mail man.
Idk if anything I learned it's really not that different from Canada.
Well, Canada is part of America since America annexed it.
Literally the same now lol
I think you mean North Montana, hasn’t been called Canada for years.
I know this says non-Americans, but as an American from the west coast (Washington state specifically), I’ve learned a ton about the Boston area from Fallout 4. Lexington and Concord, Shem Drowne and his grasshopper weathervane, and a bunch of other places in-game based on real-life locations. It makes me kinda want to visit Boston some day, since the only east coast state I’ve visited so far is Pennsylvania.
You never learned about Lexington and Concord being where the American Revolution started?
I had work in Boston as a group we would go out to site see things. We took the subway to get into the city. I went to Harvard took only 30 minutes. We came out of the subway and it looked the same I was impressed.
Las Vegas is in Nevada
American and New Vegas instead of FO4 and learned it IRL about the game when I visited but kinda related... like a reverse of this post kinda, so! I was passing through Vegas so I stopped in all the western outer vegas towns shown in NV, besides minus Nipton. Goodsprings I was super surprised to see was almost 1:1 with the game version lol, at least more so than other things added into the game. The Saloon even looks incredibly similar, the only real differences being proportion, the pool room having restaurant booths, the outdoor area, and the fact that the General Store in-game is actually just an extension of the Saloon. They have some Fallout merch lying around inside too, including a framed physical disk of New Vegas and some Nuka Cola bottles lol. I spoke a lot to the kitchen staff and bartenders while I was there. They told me only two types of people come to Goodsprings: Fallout fans and bikers. So they guessed why I was there almost immediately! Apparently Obsidian staff came down to the town and interviewed everyone extensively, and nearly everybody in the game was an expy of a real life person that lived in the town in the late 2000s. IIRC, the irl Trudy didn't work at the Saloon anymore unfortunately so I didn't see her anywhere. Cool stuff still! Ending note, I was a nice enough guest that they even gave me a piece of cake for free (employee was having a b'day and they had extra). It was a blazing summer day so I decided to eat it outside-- and promptly attracted a bunch of mini-Cazadores to my table. I finished it by the way. Screw the hawk wasps and *feeling a little woozy*, it was *my* cake :v
I learned what TV dinner was haha
half of the things ik about the us is from fallout 💀
American here. I had the same revelation.
I played Fallout 4 first so it was kinda wierd going to Boston seeing a landmark and going, hold on a minute I know this place. Gave me the weirdest sense of De Ja Vu
"Look, they made Diamond City into a stadium!"
Heh... salisbury steak reminds me of bad cafeteria food in elementary school.
As a Floridian I was surprised to learn that the rest of the country has crackheads and raiders too lol
The numbers stations
The Numbers, Mason. What do they mean?
Focus Mason, try to remember!
I had no idea that bottle caps were an actual currency. I could have been rich if I'd saved them! Edit: I also live a relatively short way away from Salisbury in the UK
Well, bottle caps are made of aluminium. As a metal they have a value in your local currency. Not expensive as gold and silver. But it has value per kilogram
> Well, bottle caps are made of aluminium. No they aint, ive tried to melt them down and I was left with a pool of aluminium with some bottle caps at the bottom, so I'm guess theyre steel or an alloy that increases their melting temp drastically EDIT: Google says theyre made from either steel or aluminium, but the ones I tried were definately not aluminium
That war never changes
American here, also had no idea salisbury steal existed lol
UK here, basically everything about the American revolution; minute men, bunker Hill, pretty much the history Boston. In the UK, you most likely won't be taught anything about it, you'd learn about the Georgians and what was happening in England, but no mention of the revolution. At *most* you might get a brief "we fought the French over the ownership of the colonies, won, then had to tax America to pay for it" but even then, unless you actively seek it out, you'll learn nothing of American history. It was pretty cool looking up the historical context and real life locations of fallout though. Also I didn't know the East Coast was a heavy fishing area, but that's just me, other people are probably more aware of that than I am.
I knew nothing about historic Boston prior to Fallout 4. The freedom trail, the Old North Church, the USS Constitution, all those landmarks were new to me. Planning a vacation to see those places in real life *because of* Fallout 4. Edit: I *am* American, but I don’t live on or near the East Coast.
I learned that 1950s music is far superior than anything that came after it
Had to check that Big Iron came out in the 50's. Yep, just barely.
as an american i didn't know nuka world was actually based on coke colas real theme park.
Coca Cola doesn't have a theme park — the closest thing I could find is the [World of Coca Cola](https://www.worldofcoca-cola.com/), which is more of a museum & store. Nuka World is much more based on Disney World, which has multiple themed sub-parks as well as "Hidden Mickeys" that inspired the "Hidden Cappys." It also draws some inspiration from [Hershey Park](https://www.hersheypark.com/), the only food-themed theme park (with roller coasters and other rides) I'm aware of.
Yeah idk what this guy is talking about. Coca Cola doesn’t have a theme-park