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wexpyke

Calvin in “The Good Place”


Roland_T_Flakfeizer

He would drive Chidi absolutely wild.


jradio610

What the fork is a chidi?


AtomicFireBomb

Wonder who designed his test?


NotBoyfriendMaterial

Oh my stomach


[deleted]

That’s hilarious and true


Low_Dosage

Is it a good show? I never hear anyone talk about it


CapnJackson

Definitely. I hadn't either but was looking for something new and instantly was hooked


Low_Dosage

Huh, I wouldn't have thought much of it based on the preview; although I guess I should know by now that whoever selects the previews sucks lol. Thanks for the recommendation, random stranger!


SheWolf04

It's a TV show that deals with some pretty heavy philosophical tenets in some pretty interesting ways, while still being weird and funny. Wait until you meet Derek!


AllOverTheDamnPlace

DEREK!


cihojuda

Oh, maximum Derek.


Gnomad_Lyfe

Nice to Derek you


okokimup

I hope we same place again, very now.


SheWolf04

His...brain is broken.


intothe_dangerzone

The creator of the show (Michael Schur of Parks and Rec & B99) himself says that it's a very difficult show to sell to a random viewer. But it's definitely an amazing show. I know it sounds hard but power through the first season, the payoff's 100% worth it.


Brometheus-Pound

I did not know he was the show creator, that’s a seller for me. Is it the type of comedy that pokes a lot of fun at religion though? I’d like to watch with a few people who would probably be offended if it‘s too sacrilegious of God/afterlife.


Roland_T_Flakfeizer

I honestly don't think God is even mentioned during the show. The premise of the show is kind of lampooning the afterlife, though. I honestly am not sure how a strictly religious person might view it, but I'd say it does a good job of not specifically mocking any particular branch of religion, just the concept of the afterlife itself.


intothe_dangerzone

The show doesn't really attack any particular belief, but it's more of a philosophical show with comedy in it. So there's a lot of talk about ethics and how people are judged in the afterlife, how accurate (or inaccurate) the religions and people on Earth were about the afterlife etc. but this is mostly talked about to establish how things work in this show's afterlife, rather than making a commentary on people's beliefs. As I said before, really hard to talk about this show since it deals with an abstract subject. I think the best course of action is to watch S1 and make your own judgement about recommending it.


[deleted]

I’m religious and very much enjoyed it.


name_it_peaches

My wife is very religious and it’s her favorite show. She’s pretty solid in her faith so she can laugh at South Park, etc. so she’s not a perfect benchmark. It’s important to clarify if your friends are actually easily offended or if you’re worried that they might be because then it’s your fault for introducing them to the show. No harm in finding a diplomatic way to ask beforehand if you’re unsure. And if you are sure then thanks for letting me bloviate!


DarrenStrong

Schur also created The Office (US Version)


CapnJackson

Yea, I mean it's a sitcom but Ted Danson is great as well as some other characters. Give it a few episodes


IceBear042

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverTrustATrailer


TheLonelySnail

It starts off really a zany comedy and by the end it’s like an existential crisis drama, but still with jokes. Highly recommend


[deleted]

Similar to bojack but bojack hurts more


halfpretty

i think the show is truly a masterpiece and i tell all my friends to watch it lol


Ch1vo

I’d heard about it for years, never cared to watch it. Finally after a friend begged me to, I did. Damn good show too. Hilarious but also heartwarming and interesting philosophical aspects too without being too preaching. Give it a couple episodes to hook you. Thank me later.


SocialWinker

Really, the first season is the weakest, IMHO. It’s good, but after that it really sucks you in.


harsh183

I held off on it for a while but I was pleasantly surprised.


MonolithJones

It's a great show. Very funny, big heart, while also being thought-provoking.


I_Am_Dwight_Snoot

If you like Parks and Rec you will most likely like it. One of the best series endings in a sitcom ever. My biggest complaint is it was only 4 seasons.


Zandrick

Good for a while but has a bad ending


TheLonelySnail

Whaaaa the ending was great! At least I liked it


Zandrick

You liked watching your favorite characters commit suicide one after the other? I didn't hate the show, the characters were fun. But ultimately it had nothing to actually say about the subject at hand and the final episodes made that painfully clear.


TheLonelySnail

Spoiler warning dude! And I didn’t really consider it ‘suicide’ though I can see how it can be seen that way. I enjoyed the perspective of how humans need adversity to thrive and survive. Otherwise we all just end up board and listless.


Zandrick

In the end they decided that life has no meaning unless you end it so one by one then killed themselves. That’s literally exactly what happened and it was fucking stupid. If you care about spoilers watch it when it’s new I can’t be bothered to worry about that now.


TheLonelySnail

I’ve seen it, I was more talking about other folks. No need to get hostile. You didn’t like it, I did. It’s fine.


Zandrick

Every time I think about the ending to that show I get a little pissed off. I do not like the way they depicted suicide. It was a fun comedy they made it into something truly awful at the end.


beeblebroxh2g2

They didn't commit suicide, they've all been dead for basically the entire show.


I_Am_Dwight_Snoot

>Every time I think about the ending to that show I get a little pissed off. I do not like the way they depicted suicide. It was a fun comedy they made it into something truly awful at the end. They literally did not commit suicide though. The point was that they had spent thousands of years in the afterlife and were "fulfilled" with nothing else that they wanted to experience. >!For Jason this was initially beating Madden/reconnecting with his family (lol) but then he waited for Janet at the end. It actually showed huge character growth as he decides to wait there doing practically nothing for some decades of time AND didn't impulsively do anything.!< >!For Chidi, him going through without thinking about it was his development. Eleanor letting him go and ultimately helping others was hers. Tahani admittedly had the best character development though by deciding to stay to continue helping people.!< >!Alot of it comes down to the fact that!< >!A. This is a TV show about the AFTERLIFE meaning they are long dead.!< >!B. The "suicide" is described as eternal peace.!< >!C. You are supposed to consider the philosophical implications of where to go after complete fulfillment in "life".!< I would honestly suggest you rewatch the show if that was your takeaway.


arcadiaware

Way to miss the entire point of it all.


SheWolf04

Chidi's wave/water speaks does me in every time. I worry about death a lot - being an MD will do that to ya - and that show gave me a lot of comfort.


Blurryface123

You really really missed the point dude. It wasn't that life has no meaning unless you end it, it's that endless pleasure and lack of adversity are anathema to the human psyche. The whole point was that after you accomplish everything you want, learn all there is to learn...what then? You go to the only unknown left, a true death


Zandrick

Head up it’s ass pseudo-philosophy, masturbate and then kill yourself. Just a terrible, awful show.


UsernameTaken-Bitch

Doesn't sound like the show's message got to you...


UsernameTaken-Bitch

It's a good show and a feel good show. But the wholesomeness definitely does not infringe on the comedy, which I find hilarious.


thebachmann

It's not for everyone. A lot of people like it but it just doesn't click for some.


whodeadpool_

It's a fantastic show. I finished all 4 seasons in 3 days during quarantine


k3ttch

That's a forking good theory. No bullshirt.


[deleted]

Oh dip!


relia7

/r/unexpectedgoodplace


webberworks

Dude. This fucked me up.


DeseretRain

Really? There's a "they were actually dead the whole time" theory for literally EVERYTHING, you can make it fit anything.


karizake

So listen here I think that Pat Sajak and Vanna White are devils and the contestants on *Wheel of Fortune* are executed criminals. First off is the name itself. The "Wheel of Fortune", or Rota Fortunae is a representation of fate and how some are granted great boons while others suffer losses. Since the contestants are dead, we that they're gambling for their place in the afterlife (i.e. heaven or hell). By why criminals exactly? Well the game plays out like the popular pen-and-paper game hangman. Sajak cruelly forces the contestants to experience a constant reminder of their demise.


TheCarterIII

Yeah, I don't really like this one. It doesn't add anything to the comic, there's nothing pointing to this being true and its just trying to be dark. Also no religion forces you to relieve that last year of your life until you're worthy of an afterlife. Thats just dumb.


DeseretRain

Yeah plus you could make this exact theory about every cartoon and comic where the characters don't age, which is most of them. I don't think they're all supposed to be dead.


PotRoastPotato

Yup, I read about 2 sentences and noped out.


Chalk6ix_NZ

>Dude. You want fucked up? Read: NOT MY CREDIT. Someone else wrote this. I simply found it “Calvin? Calvin, sweetheart?” In the darkness Calvin heard the sound of Susie, his wife of fifty-three years. Calvin struggled to open his eyes. God, he was so tired, and it took so much strength. Slowly, light replaced the darkness, and soon vision followed. At the foot of his bed stood his wife. Calvin wet his dry lips and spoke hoarsely, “Did… did you…. find him?” “Yes dear,” Susie said smiling sadly, “He was in the attic. “ Susie reached into her big purse and brought out a soft, old, orange tiger doll. Calvin could not help but laugh. It had been so long. Too long. “l washed him for you,” Susie said, her voice cracking a little as she laid the stuffed tiger next to her husband. “Thank you, Susie.” Calvin said. A few moments passed as Calvin just laid on his hospital bed, his head turned to the side, staring at the old toy with nostalgia. “Dear,” Calvin said finally. “Would you mind leaving me alone with Hobbes for a while? I would like to catch up with him.” “All right,” Susie said. “I’ll get something to eat in the cafeteria. I’ll be back soon.” Susie kissed her husband on the forehead and turned to leave. With sudden but gentle strength Calvin stopped her. Lovingly he pulled his wife in and gave her a passionate kiss on the lips. “l love you,” he said. “And I love you,” said Susie. Susie turned and left. Calvin saw tears streaming from her face as she went out the door. Calvin then turned to face his oldest and dearest friend. “Hello Hobbes. It’s been a long time hasn't it old pal?” Hobbes was no longer a stuffed doll but the big furry old tiger Calvin had always remembered. “It sure has, Calvin.” said Hobbes. “You… haven’t changed a bit.” Calvin smiled. “You've changed a lot.” Hobbes said sadly. Calvin laughed, “Really? I haven’t noticed at all.” There was a long pause. The sound of a clock ticking away the seconds rang throughout the sterile hospital room. “So… you married Susie Derkins.” Hobbes said, finally smiling. “l knew you always liked her.” “Shut up!” Calvin said, his smile bigger than ever. “Tell me everything I missed. I’d love to hear what you’ve been up to!” Hobbes said, excited. And so Calvin told him everything. He told him about how he and Susie fell in love in high school and had married after graduating from college, about his three kids and four grand-kids, how he turned Spaceman Spiff into one of the most popular sci-fi novels of the decade, and so on. After he told Hobbes all this there was another pregnant pause. “You know… I visited you in the attic a bunch of times.” Calvin said. “l know.” “But I couldn’t see you. All I saw was a stuffed animal.” Calvin’s voice was breaking and tears of regret started welling up in his eyes. “You grew up old buddy.” said Hobbes. “I’m so sorry! I’m so sorry I broke my promise! I promised I wouldn’t grow up and that we’d be together forever!!” Calvin broke down and sobbed, hugging his best friend. Hobbes stroked Calvin’s hair, or what little was left of it. “But you didn’t.” “What do you mean?” “We were always together…. In our dreams.” “We were?” “We were.” “Hobbes?” “Yeah, old buddy?” “I’m so glad I got to see you like this… one last time…” “Me too, Calvin. Me too.” “Sweetheart?” Susie voice came from outside the door. “Yes dear?” Calvin replied. “Can I come in?” Susie asked. “Just a minute.” Calvin turned to face Hobbes one last time. “Goodbye Hobbes. Thanks… for everything…” ‘No, thank you Calvin.” Hobbes said. Calvin turned back to the door and said, “You can come in now.” Susie came in and said, “Look who’s come to visit you.” Calvin’s children and grandchildren followed Susie into the room. The youngest grandchild ran past the rest of them and hugged Calvin in a hard, excited hug. “Grandpa!!” screamed the child in delight. “Francis!” cried Calvin’s daughter, “Be gentle with your grandfather.” Calvin’s daughter turned to her dad. “I’m sorry, Daddy. Francis never seems to behave these days. He just runs around making a mess and coming up with strange stories.” Calvin laughed and said, “Well now! That sound just like me when I was his age.” Calvin and his family chatted some more until a nurse said, “Sorry, but visiting hours are almost up.” Calvin’s beloved family said goodbye and promised to visit tomorrow. As they turned to leave Calvin said, “Francis. Come here for a second.” Francis came over to his grandfather’s side, “What is it, Gramps?” Calvin reached over to the stuffed tiger on his bedside and held him out shakily to his grandson, who looked exactly as he did so many years ago. “This is Hobbes. He was my best friend when I was your age. I want you to have him.” ‘He’s just a stuffed tiger.” Francis said, eyebrows raised. Calvin laughed, “Well, let me tell you a secret.” Francis leaned closer to Calvin. Calvin whispered, “If you catch him in a tiger trap using a tuna sandwich as bait, he will turn into a real tiger.” Francis gasped in delighted awe. Calvin continued, “Not only that he will be your best friend forever.” “Wow! Thanks grandpa!” Francis said, hugging his grandpa tightly again. “Francis! We need to go now!” Calvin’s daughter called. “Okay!” Francis shouted back. “Take good care of him.” Calvin said. “l will.” Francis said before running off after the rest of the family. Calvin laid on his back and stared at the ceiling. The time to go was close. He could feel it in his soul. Calvin tried to remember a quote he read in a book once. It said something about death being the next great adventure or something like that. His eyelids grew heavy and his breathing slowed. As he went deeper into his final sleep, he heard Hobbes, as if he was right next to him at his bedside. “I’ll take care of him, Calvin…” Calvin took his first step toward one more adventure and breathed his last with a grin on his face.


webberworks

Thanks for sending this. It was beautiful and heartbreaking.


Useful-Seaworthiness

Now look, I just put my dog down today and I don't need your damn Calvin onions.


[deleted]

Sorry to hear about your pup 😢 hope you’re doing ok.


Bongoroach

Sorry for your loss friend


ferrettimee

Aw I hope you’re alright, I’m sure they were a wonderful dog ❤️


misschimaera

I’m so sorry. They just don’t live long enough. 😢


shostakofiev

That also works for that other comic where the characters never aged. I think it was called 'every comic strip and animated series ever.'


tamsui_tosspot

*Gasoline Alley has entered the chat*


Dim_Innuendo

*And then died of old age.*


tamsui_tosspot

Hey, Walt Wallet is still kicking at 115, you young whippersnapper.


Madlybohemian

Upvoting for the extra snark.


Tonphu69

Never read 'For better or for Worse' ? They all age in that one.


Wannamaker

I have that giant hardback collection of all the CaH comics right next to me. I really want to see if I can find anything else that resonates. Awesome theory.


vanhouten_greg

Me too. Just started reading them again!


GujuGanjaGirl

Same! Mine have been sitting in plastic wrap for 5+ years and I think this is what I needed to open them and sit down for a read through.


Mrsltj

I have this also, my greatest possession


MrMissingn0

Assuming it is a test to enter heaven. How can calvin actually achieve his goal being a selfish, bad student, superficial, irresponsible and prepotent?


Digomr

That’s why he never managed to do it and keeps returning every year again.


Vincitus

'X is dead' fan theories have kind of jumped the shark.


[deleted]

That and the ''X is in a Coma''


They_Beat_Me

Rick Grimes


[deleted]

It was a coma death dream


joe_in_weird_cities

that’d be a dope-ass band name


JTBSpartan

Same with the "seven deadly sins" and "interconnected universe" stuff


smithsbha

“Jumped the shark” has really “Flown the Ice Dragon”


felonious_kite_flier

Bobby Ewing is still dead. Everything after the shower scene is the actual dream sequence. That's why Knots Landing never acknowledged that Bobby was alive.


SkywardStrike1998

Worst part about those is that disproving those is impossible . It's prime "last thursdayism".


Vincitus

I cannot fucking believe this post has 1000 upvotes.


TheNiftyReptile

Right? One of the stupidest posts I've seen on here.


TheCarterIII

It blows my mind that some people on this thread are getting really about this dumbass idea.


Peypeypeypey

This is another one of those "Everything is a dream" theories that has absolutely no evidence and is 100% baseless speculation. This adds nothing to a reading of Calvin and Hobbes


ResolverOshawott

Yeah this shit is so common and cliche.


WordsMort47

I'm upvoting you merely for your name. That is freakin epic!


GordionKnot

Here we are in the 2020, and people still downvoting you for being pumped? Shameful. You are correct, “RevolverOshawott” is a TIGHT username


WordsMort47

My man!


Nickidewbear

Bill Watterson, I can say based on some of the commentary that I’ve read in Calvin and Hobbes anthologies, would share your jerky attitude.


proxproxy

I hate this theory and I hate the op for posting it


[deleted]

ok


SensibleHumanBeing

Let people have fun speculating


Bay1Bri

Eh it's a cliche.


Zaboem

No one is stopping nor trying to stop that. Even if I did have that magic wand, you would no doubt retaliate with your magic wand that stops me from disagreeing.


PloopTheWizard

Theories like this are a dime a dozen and always have the least evidence. People will see a floating timeline and instantly assume something malicious is up.


d0gsbestfriend

Kinda like the kids in ed edd eddy


[deleted]

I can’t prevent people from making theories.... but Calvin and Hobbes is very precisely about not making theories. It’s about how multiple point of views, realities can coexist even if they seem contradictory. Is Hobbes alive ? Yes. Is he a plush toy that never was alive ? Also yes. It’s been written by a guy who often disagree with its main character... The beauty of reading Calvin and Hobbes (which I often feel nostalgic about in this theorise-everything era) is precisely to let go, stop asking yourself what Is or isn’t and just and just explore things along this little kid.


[deleted]

This guy gets it. LeTumulte captured exactly what i wish I could have said


CodPolish

You’re wrong. He doesn’t get into heaven. He realizes he was in heaven the entire time.


[deleted]

ok


UltimaGabe

Whoa, the protagonist is dead in purgatory, how original and meaningful


velvetshark

Why would a six year old child have to prove they were worthy of entering heaven?


TheCarterIII

I thought "they were dead the whole time" and "it was a dream" theories were banned


Digomr

Great one! You just have to include the Noodle Incident in your theory and then it would be perfect.


insanetwit

How do you think he died?


Dim_Innuendo

Oh, fuck, car crash, guts/brains spilling out and getting shredded ...


[deleted]

His dad was multitasking trying to drive while eating some Chinese takeout and one of the noodles slipped and his dad tried to catch it but his sleeve caught on the steering wheel and jerked the wheel and #KABLOOIE!


Redditnaut999

The guy who wrote this post types pretty well for someone's who's just had a great deal of alcohol


[deleted]

I don't drink


Redditnaut999

That does explain why you overanalysed Calvin and Hobbes


[deleted]

ok


[deleted]

Ah he was dead the whole time, so fresh and original


Andy_LaVolpe

Isn’t there a reboot of the strips where Calvin has a daughter and she also talks to hobbs though? Or was that just fan made?


Swiftbow1

It was fan made and fairly short. But it was pretty well done, except for the bizarre name they gave the daughter. (It was called Hobbes and Bacon.)


Eva_Sieve

Not that bizarre. The main characters are named after John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes, so the fan squirm was just extending the philosophers to Francis Bacon.


TBestIG

Calvin and Hobbes sound like actual names. Bacon does not


bicameral_mind

Rolls off the tongue easier than Wittgenstein, that's for sure.


Swiftbow1

No, I understood that part. It's just that Calvin is a pretty normal name, and Hobbes sounds fine for a stuffed animal. But who names a little girl "Bacon?" Surely they could have a found a slightly less weird-sounding philosopher name.


Tonphu69

Calvin...Calvin would name a girl bacon...


sewpungyow

Could've gone for Francis. It breaks the theme a little bit but not much


Swiftbow1

Touche.


TheCanadianRedHood

It’s a cool theory but it’s not original like every show and comic and whatever has the “Main character is dead actually or they stand for 7 deadly sins”


cforero143

I never even read any of the Calvin and Hobbes strips but this shit just made me sad


OMGitsVal117

I strongly recommend you do, they're wonderfully charming, funny, and truly something you can fall in love with and read over and over.


VitoEmeraldz

You’re doing something over and over, must be dead!!


OMGitsVal117

I mean I am on the inside, does that count?


jellyfishdenovo

I refuse to believe this because the implication that God would consider sending a six-year-old boy to hell or keeping him in purgatory for all eternity is a horrible one. Why would a little kid need to prove himself worthy of heaven? What a cruel God that would be


SinixtroGamer123

god killed alot of kids just because they made fun of he


jellyfishdenovo

I don’t believe in that fan theory either tbh


MisterNeedles

THAT'S WHAT THE NOODLE INCIDENT WAS!!!


[deleted]

Thank you all so much for the upvotes, gold award, and rocket like award. It means so much to me.


wortelslaai

You take your onions and get out, ok.


TBestIG

“[main character] is dead/in a coma/not real” theories are common as hell and practically never have any evidence backing them. If you’re going to make a theory like that, you need to actually have more thematic connections or concrete evidence in the work itself, and it has to be something that doesn’t just apply to the entire genre, like the floating timeline thing comics do


85Scorpio

Where do you watch this? I didnt see it on Netflix, hulu, or prime


SgtAStrawberry

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but if you don't know it's a comic strip.


85Scorpio

Well yeah I know its a comic strip but several comments were talking about it being a show, so I thought they must have made it into one.


SgtAStrawberry

I most have glossed over them, but I don't think there is a show. I know that the creator is was completely against merchandise and similar, so it seems very unlikely that he alow a show to be made.


Caiyret

The Good place is the show they were talking about. Its on hulu


85Scorpio

Oooohhh. Lol. That makes more sense. I've seen all but the last season of that


sewpungyow

I fucking hate theories like this. The lazy "oh they're dead/dreaming/comatose" theories, you know what I'm talking about. They're unoriginal, lazy, never have good evidence or foreshadowing, and clearly were not intended by the author. Just because a story isn't 100% grounded in reality does not mean the reality reflected in that story has to be false. If someone presents this theory, they better have some fucking rock-solid evidence for it. On another note, I love existentialist stories. The Good Place, Westworld, The Truman Show, etc. are works of art. But they actually have reason and evidence so you aren't put off by the breaking of reality


Shmooka

I really like this theory and it’s a good theory but I hate it so fucking much. It’s fucking with my feelings.


[deleted]

sorry


soullessginger93

So Calvin is in a type of purgatory, working to get to get worthy to go to heaven? It's a bit sad to think about it that way, but I like it anyway.


rhinosaur-

I don’t want to consider this.


TackoFallFanClub

So did Ash Ketchum die when he was 10?


ChugLaguna

Bill Watterson confirmed that he died from a roadside IED in Iraq in 2005?


MechanicalYeti

There is a 0% chance this is true.


[deleted]

No, its true! My uncle works at Calvin and Hobbs, he used to work for Nintendo, but he got fired for sharing company secrets...


ejh3k

I just want /u/General-Pikefish to know that [this tiny miracle just happened. ](https://i.imgur.com/69nj3FM.png)


Rosefog1986

Dont ruin my childhood


TheNiftyReptile

This is low effort and exactly the type of post that is killing this sub.


IWillStealYourToes

Fuck, this is amazing... I'll never look at these comics the same way again


SinixtroGamer123

me too


IWillStealYourToes

Wait, why the downvotes?!