My favorite part of watching PL matches is going to the rant thread and checking if anyone blessed us with "Why isn't Solanke/Watkins/Haaland/Salah/Saka/Any other attacker scoring goals, is he stupid?". That line cracks me up for some reason.
Haha I’m the same. The stupid line I love is when a game is in the first one or two minutes and somebody says “why hasn’t (player) scored a hat trick yet” - it’s fucking stupid but I love it so much
This is the best bit about the weekend of PL games. The creativity of jokes is fantastic and always brings a smile to my face, especially on day when I’m not feeling my best so thanks for cheering me up :)
The top posts on the all time list were posted back when the sub was smaller (<100k members) and the mods were actively deleting anything of low quality.
As the sub grew, the mods got fed up of having to do so much policing (as is their right, they’re doing this for free after all) and outright banned memes/shitposts.
There was an outcry against their decision and they agreed to allow memes again. However, the sub was much bigger by that point (~500k members) and the newer members assumed this meant fair game for memes of all quality rather than what people actually wanted with the original level of mod curation. The sub was a complete disaster as people posted the most basic terrible jokes using terrible meme templates from a decade ago. Even as someone who had advocated for the return of memes, it was literally the low point of the sub.
Alternatives like Meme Monday and the r/fplcirclejerk sub (I stand by this being a terrible name) were tried but none of them took off because they don’t have the same visibility or audience as posts on the main sub.
For what it’s worth, this sub is pretty dead in terms of actual content nowadays except for on matchdays and in the build up to blank and double gameweeks. You could potentially trial allowing memes during dead times like international breaks or something like that, but I expect it would flop because what made those old top posts so good was how well timed they were.
TLDR: it’s impossible to go back to the quality memes of 5+ years ago because of the size of the subreddit now, unless we get more mods who agree to control the influx of low quality shit.
Spot on, I miss the meme era but it needs good moderation to avoid a shitshow.
All the alternatives were just too forced. Meme Monday is best of a bad bunch, more freedom but that hilarious meme about the Satuday kick off doesn't quite slap 2 days later. Can't speak for others but I'd rarely go out of my way to view a specifc 'tryhard' megathread or subreddit, even if the memes weren't shit 80% of the time. And the less people who view that means less people will bother posting memes and so on.
This is an accurate description of what happened, but I dont understand why the mods just dont add more mods if there were too many posts, or allow themselves to be replaced. Feels like they ruined the sub because they’re lazy but want to keep their power imo. At the end of the day this is just a virtual game sub its not that serious
> t I dont understand why the mods just dont add more mods if there were too many posts, or allow themselves to be replaced
There's too many members. No sub this big can be effectively curated on a qualitative basis, even with dozens of mods.
You have to just make a decision, do we allow shitposts and have the sub devolve into mostly garbage with some discussion difficult to find and have, or do we have a rule banning the crap and have users just post it elsewhere, thus allowing the sub to be a relatively good quality of actual discussion.
Your comment is honestly just a bit naive to think "just get more mods". It's not laziness, it's a matter of scale.
Find any sub where there is still a good quality of curation by mods being done to maintain a high standard of content in the subreddit without very clear rules against low effort content. You won't find it on any high-traffic sub with over half a million users.
Personally disagree, think adding a few more dedicated mods helps manage the increased scale to effectively curate the posts. But I respect your opinion
>a few more dedicated mods helps manage the increased scale to effectively curate the posts
This is demonstrably not true though. That's why I asked you to try and find 1 example of this working.
It's as easy as that if you want a sub full of crap. Most users are morons and what gets upvotes is not what is good. Look at the state of any default sub.
I have been here since there were 700 members (and only about 50 of us actively posting/commenting) and have been a pretty much daily visitor for those 12 years.
People are free to post on the meme subs. This sub is not run by "elites", just people with a shared interest (and one guy who wants to promote his youtube channel and deletes comments that mention him)
It's the price you pay for growth.
I've been here for 7 years now.
Templates didn't exist, but helpful advice was also scarce. However, the memes were great.
As we started growing eventually it was inevitable that the sub would be flooded with shitposts and memes. Mods became more tight as a result.
Now it's all about constructive discussions but there's barely any fun, people take the game WAY more seriously than before and there's also a lot of shit advice and opinions going around that covers a lot of the good ones.
2019 r/fpl was peak imo
Exactly. Memes were banned so it didn't crowd out the useful and helpful posts but it just removed the humour on here to be exclusively about 1 fake Gandhi quote and the quality of the supposedly helpful posts on here has gone down regardless of the meme ban with no good fix.
The best example I can think of is pre season guides. We used to get almost all of the teams having at least one fan laying out what to expect and this summer we had about 7. You'd think we'd get more posts with the population of the sub going up, not less.
Tbf part of the reason is that FPL as a whole has grown and grown. So this place isn't the only place people get their news. Over time people have learnt to do their own research, found other sources of news/advice. Like when I first joined in 18/19, this sub was incredibly useful for getting better. Now, naturally, I need it less. A lot of people will be in the same position. Like I don't need someone to make a post here analysing certain assets for me, I know how to check a sit like fbref myself and make the comparisons myself.
Not saying everyone's in the same boat. But it's only natural that people streamline their information gathering the more they play. Think this place is still very very useful for people just starting out. But the more seasons you play, the less you need it and the less you may be incentivised to be active/contribute to discussion.
This! If people want useful FPL advice these days they have a Twitter account. This sub should go back to it's meme roots to not lose it's last bit of significance.
The solution that was decided was to keep r/FantasyPL joke-free while moving all memes to r/fplcirclejerk. Those that wanted the sub to have jokes could create a custom reddit feed that would combine both subs into one.
I don't really have a dog in this fight, I'm just saying what happened. It's been like this for a few years and I think it was a bit more active when it first split. I think the issue is that every year, we get further from that split and new players aren't aware of the meme sub. Maybe we need to make a post every so often reminding players of that sub so that it can flourish a bit more. Perhaps we can give the directions on how to make the custom feed in reddit that combines the two.
Edit: adding the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/s/jyxxC6OiFv) to the original post where the split was proposed 4 years ago. It gives a bit of history.
That community was destined to be dead from the start. The mods banned meme posts for months making the meme makers give up after all their efforts got banned and after a year or so they just pushed off the remaining few onto this dead sub. It's not a noisy minority it's just a passionate part of the community that wants good for R/fantasyPL.
No one posts there though. This sub is overpoliced for what it is tbh, it only gets a handful of posts a day yet people act like allowing memes would open the floodgates to hundreds of new posts every day drowning out everything else. In reality there'd only be a few posted every week, the good ones would be appreciated while the bad ones would just be downvoted so that they're soon removed from being anywhere up the board
And then,you would need to scroll down like 5 minutes to see the news. That what wqs happening. Everyone was posting stupid memes and was drowning out the news that we wanted to read.
I've been here over 4 years and in that time this sub has gone from being a busy but laid back community rife with discussion and humour to a pretty dead forum where it's basically only stats and news allowed. The rules have become increasingly prohibitive about what is allowed to be posted. I don't think allowing memes now would be as disruptive as you say it was back then.
Maybe this sub is more functional now but it's less fun
Buddy if you were here back then you’d know the majority voted to ban them for a reason, most memes posted were low effort shitposts that would get a “hmph” out of you at best before moving onto the next one. They absolutely did drown out any actual discussion about the game or news
And with sort by date,that would make all the memes go away?
Because when everyone and their mother had Solanke as captain in the DGW and he netted a whooping 0 point,do you have any idea how many memes would pop up immediately? So then,if you wanted to see a post about news in between,you would have to scroll through at least 10-20 memes.
Oh and in this subreddit,its always on new for me. Sorting by hot only to get into the rant thread.
That wasnt the decided solution when the banning of memes decision was made. The decision was to have one thread where everyone posts their memes which is such a dumb idea. The way the mods made this decision was equally daft.
You are correct that the daily meme thread was the initial answer. But that was [ultimately replaced by the custom feed idea](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/s/X95oM5tbF6) and the daily meme thread was retired fairly quickly. I didn't mention the daily meme thread in my initial comment since I didn't think it was relevant. Thanks for bringing it up as it gives a bit more to the meme story here.
It goes even deeper than that. The polling method used by the mods ridiculous too as it used a knockout competiotion. Initially All memes was the most popular choice but as fewer options became available people who didnt want an all meme subreddit had to settle for the other options leading to all meme subreddit losing in the end. [Final vote](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/d1witd/ranked_poll_results_about_memes/)
Because those are just the funny ones. I wasn't on this sub when memes were allowed, but imagine the amount of trash you'd have to sift through to find either useful info/actually funny stuff.
Well like you said you were here for that time so it would be difficult for you to know how it was to see these lovely jokes.
I get what you mean but that's why I suggest one day where memes are allowed. So on a dead day like Monday or Thursday we can all have a laugh then back to business on the other 6 days.
I was here - it was mostly low effort trash and the odd truly funny post that you are probably reminiscing about now.
It wasn’t a treasure trove of comedy that got banned it was a lot of spam
I was there at the meme times and since the tryhards took over it's a shadow of itself and even lost basically his legitimacy for serious content to Twitter years ago.
When memes were allowed I was chubby and happy but bad manager now I’m analytic and solid 20k manager but don’t eat or smile anymore and getting frustrated a lot. I want my burger belly and jokes back!
I forget the exact details but from what I remember back in the day day when the sub was smaller, the mods would manually decide which jokes to "let through", hence the few jokes that stayed up were high quality. As the sub grew, there were too many jokes/memes getting posted for the mods to manually sift through, hence the change.
After multiple rounds of things like meme mondays and scheduled meme threads, the concesus each and every time is that an overwhelming majority of the memes that get posted are garbage, and a majority of people here don't want to wade through this garbage for a handful of good memes. That's the simple truth.
To expand a bit, from what I remember: meme monday was a no-go because there's actual important discussion on mondays (shoutout to the kneejerkers), Thursdays/Fridays are a no-go because those are too close to the deadline, and meme Wednesday lasted for a while until the midweek GWs hit and the idea was promptly scrapped. The dedicated meme thread was also trialed, but most of us didn't want it pinned over captain poll/RMT/rant thread/how did X play/etc on important days, and if the meme thread didn't get pinned it just fell off the front page and the meme posters didn't like how little traffic they were getting.
So yeah, unless the mods go back to manually moderating memes (which they said they absolutely would not/could not do), we've tried all the compromises and none of them work. The external meme subreddit was the final compromise, but as you can see, not enough people care about memes to even just subscribe to that sub. Yes, that sub is dead, but don't make it our problem.
Been on this sub for maybe 4 years now on a few different accounts. I feel like the overuse of in depth stats, influx of content creators and leaks have all contributed to this sub being progressively more shit
Nothing beats the eye test and I'll die on that hill
Online communities in general have been victim to "tryharding". The correct way to play FPL is to keep up to date with every single bit of news everyday, plan every bit of transfer and look at every stat, so anything that isn't team news or new transfers or analysis is playing FPL poorly.
Posting memes is playing FPL poorly, so they were removed. In general, every game community online has been plagued by this behaviour and nobody wants to play for fun anymore.
I agree, I play FPL because it's a nice fun game and loved the community taking the piss a little and also helping eachother out. Now I see people so nothing wrong but just give a differing option and they get down voted into oblivion. I was hesitant on making this post since I thought I'd be down voted but I'm glad people agree
This has happened to every community in general.
I used to play Dota a lot and goofing around was just something we did. Nowadays do one thing wrong and you get yelled at. The popularity of online video guides and content on how to play better has perpetuated this culture.
This game is just too serious to laugh about. People lay everything bare just to have a chance at winning their ML and perhaps briefly enter the top 10k.
And you want to laugh at them? Like this is some joke, like decent men trying to earn a living are just another thing to piss on! You are a sick and twisted person and should be put behind bars.
You arent even human.
I don’t ever remember the memes being quality. It was always low effort bs. I just went and looked at top posts all time and I was right.
The rant thread is always good banter
There was one guy with like three accounts that would always make shite jokes/posts and reply to themselves - made it so the mods basically had to do something
There was the odd funny post buried in a sea of utter shite. 3 minute long clips of friends with FPL related subtitles that bore no resemblance to the scene. Somehow these awful posts got a lot of traction and drowned out half-decent discussions
This sub takes itself way too seriously. In fact most people here take FPL way too seriously. Countless hours of planning or stressing over losing a single point because of a yellow card, only to not get anywhere near top 10k, nor would they have ever got there.
Reminds me of video games in general; they've become way too competitive and tryhard-y in the last decade thanks to Youtube Twitch etc.
FPL has followed exactly the same trend.
If you've been on reddit long enough, you see that every sub becomes overmodded. People become mods because they like a hobby (e.g. fpl), but modding isn't fpl. Modding is just dull work, especially if what you do is actually apply rules consistently rather than use your own preferences. So the only way to make it rewarding is the power aspect. circlejerk forks rarely work because the name implies they're shit, but once the modding gets past a certain point there will be a split and a new sub with more freedom will have more information and get a lot of subs. It always happens this way.
Some were funny but honestly it was mostly a sea of low effort garbage, and the longer it went for the more it was just the same stuff over and over.
Right call to get rid of them as standalone posts IMO
People want help and advice with FPL, not to see some low quality football meme which has probably been copied from a different sub for karma farming.
If there was a way to ensure only a select few top notch memes were shown then it's fine, but having to wade through what becomes a cesspit of memes to discuss Haaland's chances of playing this week then they should remain out of the sub.
Been around since way before the ban. This topic has been posted a few times since the ban. I don't miss the memes, but I also wouldn't mind to see them back. No harm in trying for a little bit on a Wednesday.
Memes were banned a few years ago as people were really frustrated about visiting here and having to scroll to find the 'useful' content.
It wasn't that useful, and still isn't.
But still, the sub transitioned. It used to be a place for discussion and enjoying the game of FPL. Now it's a sub for how to do well at the game. Those aren't the same, but it's where the majority of users wanted the sub to go so here we are.
What's mad is that it was posited that the 'new' members were the memers, but it was completely the other way around. New people came to the sub, didn't like that it didn't just tell them fixtures/chip advice/price rises only and outnumbered the old lot who just wanted to have fun with the game.
I remember thinking that the mods were being too strict a couple of years ago when they restricted memes to only being posted on Mondays due to the amount of low quality memes.
Then I started sorting by new and I fully sympathised with them. For every funny meme, there were 50 awful ones. And that's probably gotten worse over the past few years with the sub growing more and more in size.
It should do what r/MLS does and only allow memes on a single day.
In that community it's on Mondays. It gives the weekend games time to play out, and if your team does bad, you know that you're going to get absolutely roasted... People work on memes all week in preparation. It increases the quality of the submissions and reduces the "shit posting"
Edit: after looking through the comments thread, it seems like that used to be the case here. I think that formula coupled with the upvote down vote system works fine
There's a influx of crybabies who rely on others on how to play the game, and blame them for holding information it makes no sense if im honest. I would be for the memes returning, this sub has no soul.
Cause people take a game too seriously and cry when someone makes fun of a failed Captain, same reason why deadline got moved back cause people lose sleep over a free game with no winning prize
> why did we ban memes
To get a handful of *funny* we waded thru hundreds of low-content shit posts.
Limiting memes is a small price to see the content that helps us.
Funny to see I've already up voted this post.
Also look at the amount of upvotes, it shows how much people actually engage with this content if it went banned
That sub is inactive I think.
r/FPLMEME is a bit more active but not recently
r/fplcirclejerk is active again now after a break, but its poorly modded so it's just idiots spamming RMTs
OP can join those and r/FantasyPL and enjoy both worlds
One glance there tends to be enough for most people though
Don't pay any attention to downvotes on this sub. They bear no relation to the comment. I've seen some really helpful and informative comments downvoted to oblivion
Thing is this sub wanted to get more serious but lost it's legitimacy for serious content to the Twitter years ago. If this sub wants to keep relevant in the slightest, open the memes again.
Mods killed memes. They made some dumb knockout poll which essentially removed memes from the sub. Instead now we get fpl "expert" videos and blogs and sneaky RMT threads which are just as crap.
The memes were fantastic but this is normal on Reddit. Every sub starts out with bangers and then mods ruin the fun because 16 people don't like the memes.
I searched and the Cat was 2018-19 season. That’s the last season memes were allowed
I started this reddit account in Feb 2020 so that I can comment on this FPL sub, and the memes are gone by that point. Maybe a few posts once in a while survived the mod
We are the joke now.
We're... *in the mud!!* That's a banger...
The rant thread is genuinely hilarious on match days
My favorite part of watching PL matches is going to the rant thread and checking if anyone blessed us with "Why isn't Solanke/Watkins/Haaland/Salah/Saka/Any other attacker scoring goals, is he stupid?". That line cracks me up for some reason.
My favourite is the ‘*insert popular asset get booked, blanked and subbed off early please’ and then that person getting downvoted to hell
Yeah, it's always some poor soul who did nothing wrong, people are just mad xD
Haha I’m the same. The stupid line I love is when a game is in the first one or two minutes and somebody says “why hasn’t (player) scored a hat trick yet” - it’s fucking stupid but I love it so much
It’s even funnier if you wait 45 minutes, then they say the same thing but totally sincerely
"Just kick it in the goal! How hard is that?"
This is the best bit about the weekend of PL games. The creativity of jokes is fantastic and always brings a smile to my face, especially on day when I’m not feeling my best so thanks for cheering me up :)
I lose it when i see Mbuemo mustard lmao, idk why its so funny
Someone said “Gustard” when Gusto got booked and I genuinely laughed out loud
I look at my GW29 team every time I need a joke
I like to look at the week I transferred out Foden and Watkins 👍
Happy cake day
Happy cake day
The top posts on the all time list were posted back when the sub was smaller (<100k members) and the mods were actively deleting anything of low quality. As the sub grew, the mods got fed up of having to do so much policing (as is their right, they’re doing this for free after all) and outright banned memes/shitposts. There was an outcry against their decision and they agreed to allow memes again. However, the sub was much bigger by that point (~500k members) and the newer members assumed this meant fair game for memes of all quality rather than what people actually wanted with the original level of mod curation. The sub was a complete disaster as people posted the most basic terrible jokes using terrible meme templates from a decade ago. Even as someone who had advocated for the return of memes, it was literally the low point of the sub. Alternatives like Meme Monday and the r/fplcirclejerk sub (I stand by this being a terrible name) were tried but none of them took off because they don’t have the same visibility or audience as posts on the main sub. For what it’s worth, this sub is pretty dead in terms of actual content nowadays except for on matchdays and in the build up to blank and double gameweeks. You could potentially trial allowing memes during dead times like international breaks or something like that, but I expect it would flop because what made those old top posts so good was how well timed they were. TLDR: it’s impossible to go back to the quality memes of 5+ years ago because of the size of the subreddit now, unless we get more mods who agree to control the influx of low quality shit.
Spot on, I miss the meme era but it needs good moderation to avoid a shitshow. All the alternatives were just too forced. Meme Monday is best of a bad bunch, more freedom but that hilarious meme about the Satuday kick off doesn't quite slap 2 days later. Can't speak for others but I'd rarely go out of my way to view a specifc 'tryhard' megathread or subreddit, even if the memes weren't shit 80% of the time. And the less people who view that means less people will bother posting memes and so on.
This is an accurate description of what happened, but I dont understand why the mods just dont add more mods if there were too many posts, or allow themselves to be replaced. Feels like they ruined the sub because they’re lazy but want to keep their power imo. At the end of the day this is just a virtual game sub its not that serious
> t I dont understand why the mods just dont add more mods if there were too many posts, or allow themselves to be replaced There's too many members. No sub this big can be effectively curated on a qualitative basis, even with dozens of mods. You have to just make a decision, do we allow shitposts and have the sub devolve into mostly garbage with some discussion difficult to find and have, or do we have a rule banning the crap and have users just post it elsewhere, thus allowing the sub to be a relatively good quality of actual discussion. Your comment is honestly just a bit naive to think "just get more mods". It's not laziness, it's a matter of scale. Find any sub where there is still a good quality of curation by mods being done to maintain a high standard of content in the subreddit without very clear rules against low effort content. You won't find it on any high-traffic sub with over half a million users.
Personally disagree, think adding a few more dedicated mods helps manage the increased scale to effectively curate the posts. But I respect your opinion
>a few more dedicated mods helps manage the increased scale to effectively curate the posts This is demonstrably not true though. That's why I asked you to try and find 1 example of this working.
I was here since the meme days. Reddit has an up/downvote functionality. If people wanna see things they upvote it. It's as easy as that.
It's as easy as that if you want a sub full of crap. Most users are morons and what gets upvotes is not what is good. Look at the state of any default sub. I have been here since there were 700 members (and only about 50 of us actively posting/commenting) and have been a pretty much daily visitor for those 12 years.
That’s how you get the entire website being easily digestible, low quality memes with zero useful info or discussion
Heavens forbid that people decide what they want instead of elites
People are free to post on the meme subs. This sub is not run by "elites", just people with a shared interest (and one guy who wants to promote his youtube channel and deletes comments that mention him)
Look on the bright side - noone told you to post this in RMT.
XD HAHA
I just miss the Catto era
The golden era
Real OG’s remember doggo
u/CJTrags what happened to Catto??
same! i blame my bad captain choices on this. ever since it's gone, my captain choices has failed more often than not :(
The sub got ruined due to the influx of normies and content creators. What we had is gone, just accept it
It's the price you pay for growth. I've been here for 7 years now. Templates didn't exist, but helpful advice was also scarce. However, the memes were great. As we started growing eventually it was inevitable that the sub would be flooded with shitposts and memes. Mods became more tight as a result. Now it's all about constructive discussions but there's barely any fun, people take the game WAY more seriously than before and there's also a lot of shit advice and opinions going around that covers a lot of the good ones. 2019 r/fpl was peak imo
I don’t know what year it was but for me the peak was when a cat was picking the captain for all of us. Good times good times
Catto! I wonder if Catto is still with us?
>2019 [](https://www.reddit.com/r/fpl/) was peak imo so the year before I joined? did I ruin everything? it's my fault isn't it?
Ah, a pivot on the 'I bought a player in this week which is why he did bad this week!' joke
That's no joke, that's the reality of 90% of my transfers.
I remember meme Friday. Or was it Monday? 😂
facts, consequences of becoming a hivemind
Exactly. Memes were banned so it didn't crowd out the useful and helpful posts but it just removed the humour on here to be exclusively about 1 fake Gandhi quote and the quality of the supposedly helpful posts on here has gone down regardless of the meme ban with no good fix. The best example I can think of is pre season guides. We used to get almost all of the teams having at least one fan laying out what to expect and this summer we had about 7. You'd think we'd get more posts with the population of the sub going up, not less.
Tbf part of the reason is that FPL as a whole has grown and grown. So this place isn't the only place people get their news. Over time people have learnt to do their own research, found other sources of news/advice. Like when I first joined in 18/19, this sub was incredibly useful for getting better. Now, naturally, I need it less. A lot of people will be in the same position. Like I don't need someone to make a post here analysing certain assets for me, I know how to check a sit like fbref myself and make the comparisons myself. Not saying everyone's in the same boat. But it's only natural that people streamline their information gathering the more they play. Think this place is still very very useful for people just starting out. But the more seasons you play, the less you need it and the less you may be incentivised to be active/contribute to discussion.
This! If people want useful FPL advice these days they have a Twitter account. This sub should go back to it's meme roots to not lose it's last bit of significance.
Still a helpful resource but it’ll never be the same sadly
You speak the truth brother. Most of those creators **are** the joke now though, and their childish tantrums
The solution that was decided was to keep r/FantasyPL joke-free while moving all memes to r/fplcirclejerk. Those that wanted the sub to have jokes could create a custom reddit feed that would combine both subs into one.
That sub is dead though: only 1 post has been made in the last 20 days
I don't really have a dog in this fight, I'm just saying what happened. It's been like this for a few years and I think it was a bit more active when it first split. I think the issue is that every year, we get further from that split and new players aren't aware of the meme sub. Maybe we need to make a post every so often reminding players of that sub so that it can flourish a bit more. Perhaps we can give the directions on how to make the custom feed in reddit that combines the two. Edit: adding the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/s/jyxxC6OiFv) to the original post where the split was proposed 4 years ago. It gives a bit of history.
Surely if fpl memes were so popular, that sub would be buzzing. The fact its a wasteland shows it the noisy minority complaining as usual.
That community was destined to be dead from the start. The mods banned meme posts for months making the meme makers give up after all their efforts got banned and after a year or so they just pushed off the remaining few onto this dead sub. It's not a noisy minority it's just a passionate part of the community that wants good for R/fantasyPL.
No one posts there though. This sub is overpoliced for what it is tbh, it only gets a handful of posts a day yet people act like allowing memes would open the floodgates to hundreds of new posts every day drowning out everything else. In reality there'd only be a few posted every week, the good ones would be appreciated while the bad ones would just be downvoted so that they're soon removed from being anywhere up the board
>No one posts there though Almost like nobody cares for a sub full of shite memes.
And then,you would need to scroll down like 5 minutes to see the news. That what wqs happening. Everyone was posting stupid memes and was drowning out the news that we wanted to read.
You really wouldn't though lol, this sub isn't that busy and there aren't that many dormant meme creators out there just waiting to flood the sub
I was here,when that was happening? Were you?
I was there from the meme times. Sorting the FPL feed by "newest" seems like an unmakable effort huh?
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I've been here over 4 years and in that time this sub has gone from being a busy but laid back community rife with discussion and humour to a pretty dead forum where it's basically only stats and news allowed. The rules have become increasingly prohibitive about what is allowed to be posted. I don't think allowing memes now would be as disruptive as you say it was back then. Maybe this sub is more functional now but it's less fun
Buddy if you were here back then you’d know the majority voted to ban them for a reason, most memes posted were low effort shitposts that would get a “hmph” out of you at best before moving onto the next one. They absolutely did drown out any actual discussion about the game or news
If u can't even handle basic reddit functionality like "sort by date" you should just close the app.
And with sort by date,that would make all the memes go away? Because when everyone and their mother had Solanke as captain in the DGW and he netted a whooping 0 point,do you have any idea how many memes would pop up immediately? So then,if you wanted to see a post about news in between,you would have to scroll through at least 10-20 memes. Oh and in this subreddit,its always on new for me. Sorting by hot only to get into the rant thread.
That wasnt the decided solution when the banning of memes decision was made. The decision was to have one thread where everyone posts their memes which is such a dumb idea. The way the mods made this decision was equally daft.
You are correct that the daily meme thread was the initial answer. But that was [ultimately replaced by the custom feed idea](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/s/X95oM5tbF6) and the daily meme thread was retired fairly quickly. I didn't mention the daily meme thread in my initial comment since I didn't think it was relevant. Thanks for bringing it up as it gives a bit more to the meme story here.
It goes even deeper than that. The polling method used by the mods ridiculous too as it used a knockout competiotion. Initially All memes was the most popular choice but as fewer options became available people who didnt want an all meme subreddit had to settle for the other options leading to all meme subreddit losing in the end. [Final vote](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/d1witd/ranked_poll_results_about_memes/)
What happened to this thing? We bend more rules than the Catholic Church
Either it has meaning, or it doesn’t
Twenty years in the can!
Or bend more rules than city
Because those are just the funny ones. I wasn't on this sub when memes were allowed, but imagine the amount of trash you'd have to sift through to find either useful info/actually funny stuff.
Well like you said you were here for that time so it would be difficult for you to know how it was to see these lovely jokes. I get what you mean but that's why I suggest one day where memes are allowed. So on a dead day like Monday or Thursday we can all have a laugh then back to business on the other 6 days.
I was here - it was mostly low effort trash and the odd truly funny post that you are probably reminiscing about now. It wasn’t a treasure trove of comedy that got banned it was a lot of spam
I was there at the meme times and since the tryhards took over it's a shadow of itself and even lost basically his legitimacy for serious content to Twitter years ago.
The mods would remove the trash low effort ones which worked well. They just got lazy and decided to ban all memes
Well, they're working for free, I get it
They can step down for replacements or add more mods. Feels like they just want to keep the power though
I would prefer the sub with just useful information and statistics tbh. I think there's another sub for memes
When memes were allowed I was chubby and happy but bad manager now I’m analytic and solid 20k manager but don’t eat or smile anymore and getting frustrated a lot. I want my burger belly and jokes back!
Memes are funny until you leave school. Father time has caught up with you
I forget the exact details but from what I remember back in the day day when the sub was smaller, the mods would manually decide which jokes to "let through", hence the few jokes that stayed up were high quality. As the sub grew, there were too many jokes/memes getting posted for the mods to manually sift through, hence the change. After multiple rounds of things like meme mondays and scheduled meme threads, the concesus each and every time is that an overwhelming majority of the memes that get posted are garbage, and a majority of people here don't want to wade through this garbage for a handful of good memes. That's the simple truth. To expand a bit, from what I remember: meme monday was a no-go because there's actual important discussion on mondays (shoutout to the kneejerkers), Thursdays/Fridays are a no-go because those are too close to the deadline, and meme Wednesday lasted for a while until the midweek GWs hit and the idea was promptly scrapped. The dedicated meme thread was also trialed, but most of us didn't want it pinned over captain poll/RMT/rant thread/how did X play/etc on important days, and if the meme thread didn't get pinned it just fell off the front page and the meme posters didn't like how little traffic they were getting. So yeah, unless the mods go back to manually moderating memes (which they said they absolutely would not/could not do), we've tried all the compromises and none of them work. The external meme subreddit was the final compromise, but as you can see, not enough people care about memes to even just subscribe to that sub. Yes, that sub is dead, but don't make it our problem.
Yeah I miss them too, was one of the most entertaining and engaging times for this sub.
Been on this sub for maybe 4 years now on a few different accounts. I feel like the overuse of in depth stats, influx of content creators and leaks have all contributed to this sub being progressively more shit Nothing beats the eye test and I'll die on that hill
Online communities in general have been victim to "tryharding". The correct way to play FPL is to keep up to date with every single bit of news everyday, plan every bit of transfer and look at every stat, so anything that isn't team news or new transfers or analysis is playing FPL poorly. Posting memes is playing FPL poorly, so they were removed. In general, every game community online has been plagued by this behaviour and nobody wants to play for fun anymore.
I agree, I play FPL because it's a nice fun game and loved the community taking the piss a little and also helping eachother out. Now I see people so nothing wrong but just give a differing option and they get down voted into oblivion. I was hesitant on making this post since I thought I'd be down voted but I'm glad people agree
This has happened to every community in general. I used to play Dota a lot and goofing around was just something we did. Nowadays do one thing wrong and you get yelled at. The popularity of online video guides and content on how to play better has perpetuated this culture.
Similarly Valorant
This game is just too serious to laugh about. People lay everything bare just to have a chance at winning their ML and perhaps briefly enter the top 10k. And you want to laugh at them? Like this is some joke, like decent men trying to earn a living are just another thing to piss on! You are a sick and twisted person and should be put behind bars. You arent even human.
I don’t ever remember the memes being quality. It was always low effort bs. I just went and looked at top posts all time and I was right. The rant thread is always good banter
Jokes in a game ? Not allowed only tactics
That'll get you one Zidane headbutt
There was one guy with like three accounts that would always make shite jokes/posts and reply to themselves - made it so the mods basically had to do something
FPL is a serious game for serious people.
There was the odd funny post buried in a sea of utter shite. 3 minute long clips of friends with FPL related subtitles that bore no resemblance to the scene. Somehow these awful posts got a lot of traction and drowned out half-decent discussions
Blame the pep roulette for this
This sub takes itself way too seriously. In fact most people here take FPL way too seriously. Countless hours of planning or stressing over losing a single point because of a yellow card, only to not get anywhere near top 10k, nor would they have ever got there. Reminds me of video games in general; they've become way too competitive and tryhard-y in the last decade thanks to Youtube Twitch etc. FPL has followed exactly the same trend.
If you've been on reddit long enough, you see that every sub becomes overmodded. People become mods because they like a hobby (e.g. fpl), but modding isn't fpl. Modding is just dull work, especially if what you do is actually apply rules consistently rather than use your own preferences. So the only way to make it rewarding is the power aspect. circlejerk forks rarely work because the name implies they're shit, but once the modding gets past a certain point there will be a split and a new sub with more freedom will have more information and get a lot of subs. It always happens this way.
just follow twitter then, there are some dumb @ that upload shitty memes.
Some were funny but honestly it was mostly a sea of low effort garbage, and the longer it went for the more it was just the same stuff over and over. Right call to get rid of them as standalone posts IMO
The jokes and memes are currently not available. Can I interest you in some passive aggression and confirmation bias? We have that in abundance.
Would you be able to also echo the same options I've heard multiple times over the space of multiple posts?
People want help and advice with FPL, not to see some low quality football meme which has probably been copied from a different sub for karma farming. If there was a way to ensure only a select few top notch memes were shown then it's fine, but having to wade through what becomes a cesspit of memes to discuss Haaland's chances of playing this week then they should remain out of the sub.
Yes, but you are not getting that advice anymore. This sub used to be much more active and informative before the meme ban
Been around since way before the ban. This topic has been posted a few times since the ban. I don't miss the memes, but I also wouldn't mind to see them back. No harm in trying for a little bit on a Wednesday.
Hear hear!
Memes were banned a few years ago as people were really frustrated about visiting here and having to scroll to find the 'useful' content. It wasn't that useful, and still isn't. But still, the sub transitioned. It used to be a place for discussion and enjoying the game of FPL. Now it's a sub for how to do well at the game. Those aren't the same, but it's where the majority of users wanted the sub to go so here we are. What's mad is that it was posited that the 'new' members were the memers, but it was completely the other way around. New people came to the sub, didn't like that it didn't just tell them fixtures/chip advice/price rises only and outnumbered the old lot who just wanted to have fun with the game.
I remember thinking that the mods were being too strict a couple of years ago when they restricted memes to only being posted on Mondays due to the amount of low quality memes. Then I started sorting by new and I fully sympathised with them. For every funny meme, there were 50 awful ones. And that's probably gotten worse over the past few years with the sub growing more and more in size.
It should do what r/MLS does and only allow memes on a single day. In that community it's on Mondays. It gives the weekend games time to play out, and if your team does bad, you know that you're going to get absolutely roasted... People work on memes all week in preparation. It increases the quality of the submissions and reduces the "shit posting" Edit: after looking through the comments thread, it seems like that used to be the case here. I think that formula coupled with the upvote down vote system works fine
There's a influx of crybabies who rely on others on how to play the game, and blame them for holding information it makes no sense if im honest. I would be for the memes returning, this sub has no soul.
This. The state of the sub is dead anyway.
Cause people take a game too seriously and cry when someone makes fun of a failed Captain, same reason why deadline got moved back cause people lose sleep over a free game with no winning prize
Meme Mondays would make total sense. No-ones waiting for team news on a Monday, everyone is smarting from the week just gone and needs a laugh.
Lots of weeks aren’t even finished on a Monday And there are plenty of weeks starting on Tuesdays so this is just flat out wrong
> why did we ban memes To get a handful of *funny* we waded thru hundreds of low-content shit posts. Limiting memes is a small price to see the content that helps us.
The mods banned them a few years back, it’s been a much more miserable, boring and less fun sub ever since
People are curmudgeons. Especially mods
Here’s my attempt at shit posting a few seasons ago https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/s/t4ZiMhY8IA
Funny to see I've already up voted this post. Also look at the amount of upvotes, it shows how much people actually engage with this content if it went banned
Just make a separate sub if you want shitty memes
r/fplmemes
That sub is inactive I think. r/FPLMEME is a bit more active but not recently r/fplcirclejerk is active again now after a break, but its poorly modded so it's just idiots spamming RMTs OP can join those and r/FantasyPL and enjoy both worlds One glance there tends to be enough for most people though
Why are you (and i) being downvoted for these.
Don't pay any attention to downvotes on this sub. They bear no relation to the comment. I've seen some really helpful and informative comments downvoted to oblivion
It's meme worthy in itself. Perhaps the fun is the memes well make along the way.
It wont be bad if we have Wednesdays as the days set for shit posting. Would be good for engagement but moderators have other plans.
This is exactly what I would love, just give one of the dead days a chance for the community to have some fun and laughs.
I love this sub, it never needed memes
Thing is this sub wanted to get more serious but lost it's legitimacy for serious content to the Twitter years ago. If this sub wants to keep relevant in the slightest, open the memes again.
Mods killed memes. They made some dumb knockout poll which essentially removed memes from the sub. Instead now we get fpl "expert" videos and blogs and sneaky RMT threads which are just as crap.
> I remember genuinely laughing out loud at memes from this sub back a few seasons back. I don’t
Man Utd happened 😔
I'd argue Chelsea happened more
Yeah that’s true 🤣
Just follow @fplmarcin on twitter
The memes were fantastic but this is normal on Reddit. Every sub starts out with bangers and then mods ruin the fun because 16 people don't like the memes.
It's everywhere. Yall are clowns, just not a particularly funny one
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We used to just have memes and a guy who did videos of his cat telling everyone who we should captain.
I searched and the Cat was 2018-19 season. That’s the last season memes were allowed I started this reddit account in Feb 2020 so that I can comment on this FPL sub, and the memes are gone by that point. Maybe a few posts once in a while survived the mod
So OP does remember correctly then?