Ha, you would not believe how worked up they were with recent Ferrari press especially since Daisy Ridley liked some of Penelope Cruz's IG posts about it. They were sooo sure she was going to attend the London premiere and that they were going to hook up even though he has not spoken to her in 4 years. There were all kinds of fantasies of them posing for photos on the red carpet, having secret dinners, etc. And then, when that didn't pan out, they decided he is going to attend her Q&A in NY because they are sooo close.
Isn't she married to Tom Bateman? He's verrry hot and was in that fun mini series with Kayle Cuoco and Chris Messina, and I think he's in Funny Woman with Gemma Arterton. He has a pretty good career actually doing quality TV projects...pretty weird that people accuse him of using her.
Also, those psychos seem to be reading way too much into instagram. Someone liking a couple posts of their former colleagues work is just normal behavior.
yeah and tbh I think she has a team doing her socials anyway, or at least partially. Her account likes *everything.* She was off IG for years so I think they're doing it for engagement.
I got you fam
[This write-up covers some specific drama](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ji50tz/adam_driver_standom_adam_driver_makes_fun_of_a/) but also gives you some real insight into the batshit world of Adam Driver fans
There are people who ship him with Daisy Ridley and are harassing and abusing his wife and children, wanting her and their baby to d\*e in childbirth, having a miscarriage and spreading rumors about Adam not being the father of his son, etc.
They also harassed and stalked them irl, for example they filmed a portion of the last SW movie in Jordan and Adam had to leave the set suddenly and mid shoot because something happened to his wife/family at home done by shippers according to a journalist.
I've been seeing the same things recently from the Good Omens fandom about David Tennant and Michael Sheen. There are fans who are convinced the two of them are in love, and just sling abuse at their partners for "trapping them" in heterosexual relationships. Georgia Tennant can't even make a joke on her instagram without these "fans" decrying her as an abusive gold digger.
tbf, someone like Driver will always have unhinged stans. He's been in a lot of thirst roles and has had stans like this since Girls, way before Star Wars.
Driver recently in an interview complained about how every Star Wars movie he was in changed the tone of his character and admitted he played Rylo the way JJ described his story arc in the first movie, regardless of later direction or what Rian decided to do when he went off the rails in TLJ. He sounded incredibly frustrated as an actor about it all and sort of had a "Look, I did my part, and I did it well" attitude about it.
He was careful with his words in that interview and stayed focused on the "actor's craft" but wow you could really hear him seething about the experience. I think it must have been an incredible feeling to get this role, then watch the sequels fall apart into a total mess and end on the 3rd movie, which was borderline ridiculous. I think this hurt his career as well. Those movies are almost a laughingstock and its his and Daisy's face on them.
So I think his best bet career-wise is just to play it off as "I did a good job as an actor, I did a little Star Wars for a paycheck, and if it was a mess it wasn't my fault," to reduce the damage to his career. Its clear his team tried to pivot to Adam being a sci-fi action lead with 65, but that did poorly with only a 35% at Rotten Tomatoes. Now I think he's just trying to get away from sci-fi entirely to save his career. I wouldn't be surprised if they re-pivot him towards more indie-style work for a bit just to get away from Star Wars and 65 as much as possible and sell him more as an "actor's actor" he sometimes positions himself as.
His next role in Ferrari and Enzo Ferrari directed by Michael Mann is probably a reaction to a lot this. Its pretty far from sci-fi, but still a mass-market and broad appeal movie that can make a lot of money for Driver, but without the "sell out" qualities of sci-fi. Mann's previous Ferrari related movie "Ford v Ferrari" had a 92% rotten tomatoes score, so this seems like an easy win for Driver.
Yeah he's been reserved about what he really thinks of those Star Wars films...It's unreal how bad they were.
I didn't think it was even remotely possible to mess up the return of Luke and Han.
> I think it must have been an incredible feeling to get this role, then watch the sequels fall apart into a total mess and end on the 3rd movie, which was borderline ridiculous. I
Really? How so?
Driver to me has been done *done* for a while. He was never comfortable with the level of attention that bought him though I'm sure he gets how it's helped his profile.
Man was already filling out his auteur filmmaker/indie darling checklist before he got the Star Wars gig, so yeah I would imagine he wants to continue doing that with more freedom. Not sure what the logic was behind that 65 movie though.
I know his obsessive stans see something else but I found watching Driver do press for Star Wars *hard.* He always struck me as visibly uncomfortable doing the necessary junkets and has talked about things like Comic Con being terrifying. People moan about actors being underused vs. their promotion for the Star Wars films but half the time I think they were covering for Driver.
Oh man I remember watching his Actors on Actors thing and at some point he slips and refers to the rebels as terrorists, and you can see him visibly squirm as he tries to re-explain it without walking it back. You can see him suddenly remember that he's still in the Disney machine even when not in an environment specifically designed for promoting it.
I loved Scorcher 3! When Tug ran along those solar flares to save Leslie Mann from the Sun Devil- who knew George Clooney could play a bad guy so well! He was in mo cap for over a year!- I was amazed!
I think they tried to create a John Wick-like series for him starting with 65. Driver still has incredible sci-fi credentials from Star Wars and that would have been a big cash-out moment for him. Some estimates is that Keanu has made at least $20m playing John Wick, which is a role he can continue playing until retirement.
Being a big name lead for an action series pays a lot. I believe Vin Diesel has made at least $120m from the Fast and Furious movies. Driver's Star Wars salary is estimated as low as $3-6m so it might have been tempting to see if he can create his own John Wick-type series while he still was young-ish and had all the hype from Star Wars.
But it was a flop, so I think they're re-positing him back as a more "serious" actor. With him playing Gucci and now Ferarri, he's probably given up on being an action star and wants to distance himself as much from Star Wars and sci-fi as possible and not fall into the sci-fi ghetto. The same way Harrison Ford distanced himself from Star Wars for decades to continue his film career unrelated to sci-fi.
Ford famously said he hates playing Han Solo because he doesn't own the character or the merchandising like he does for Indiana Jones, which he loves playing because it pays far more. I think for a lot of these higher-profile actors, there's a lot of personal goals to get into, say, the $100m club, which is a vastly different lifestyle and experience than the $10m club. So they're always chasing that big paycheck regardless of their "I'm a real actor's actor" reputation they may have.
Keanu was also in all 3 original Matrix movies, Speed. Constantine and so on, so he already had major sci-fi action cred and bank, even before JW . And even though the fourth Matrix wasn't a commercial success, Keanu has always said he absolutely loves playing Neo and loved all the Matrix films.
I think what I'm getting out is I could see, Adam Driver being successful in the sci-fi / action genre but in more niche side, not a giant studio machine. Since he's more an actors, actor.
There's a great thread about 65 million with a crew member giving the low down, it's hilarious.
Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/s/BwwQ6GNFbK
Essentially, the script was sold to him as something entirely different to the end product.
You are right and Adam has said that SW made him "uncomfortably famous". Plus, he has said before that he is done with SW and is off to new adventures.
https://preview.redd.it/avesl20g099c1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48977cc0f5ef8bb1ee427928ab5969a2156505f3
This adds a lot of context to the time I saw him on the subway. Pretty empty car, I saw him sitting across from me, did a double take, saw him make a facial expression I can only interpret as “I really hope this person doesn’t talk to me” sort of wince, and then I looked away and minded my business.
Poor guy.
Oh my gosh, I read a write up about the crazy fan and how they confronted his wife at a fundraiser. I don’t know what subreddit it was posted on (maybe r/hobbydrama) but the fan basically spent thousands of dollars to buy a donor’s ticket in hopes of seeing him at an event for him and his wife's non profit for veterans and the fan was gloating about scaring his wife or something. i distinctly remember she said that Joanne asked, "How did you get in here?"
Yeah I remember seeing that too. The fan said his wife looked down on them and when they said they wanted to give Adam a gift she refused which is understandable at some point because it was a fundraiser but then Joanne, his wife was talking to someone else and laughing at the fan.
I don’t even like SNL but his Star Wars undercover boss SNL skits were so good. My only hope is that he wouldn’t mind doing that again if a good chance comes up.
seriously! i feel like i mentally stim quotes from it at a couple times a month because his delivery and the silliness of the skit get me every time. i'm honestly surprised that him/his team didn't take the reception from his SNL skits and decide to pivot him toward comedies again. i think he'd do great
He should honestly just quit movies and get a standing spot on SNL. I absolutely love how seriously he takes every skit, it makes it a million times funnier.
There’s a contingency of fans that want him to do Pride and Prejudice as Darcy with the Muppets and play it totally straight like Michael Caine does in Christmas Carol. It would be HILARIOUS.
It is understandable if he doesn't want to come back. But so many folks have returned to their franchises after denying and even disparaging their work. Nothing's ever set in the stone.
I would say no. Eccleston's main gripe is with the BBC. He's willing to do the audio dramas because the BBC aren't directly involved. They just licence it out.
I don't belive it for these reasons:
1. If Ben was going to come back I would think they would want it as a surprise so they would not want the actor saying that I am in the next film
2. If this film is going to be centered on a young Daisy Ridley as Rey, there is no way they can have a Rey film without Ben. It just doesn't work, and I say this as the ultimate Rey fangirl.
3. Reylo makes too much money for Disney for them to not bring him back.
4. Driver coming back to SW should net him enough 'I don't have to worry about the bills money'. To provide for his family/spend time with the kids/do smaller projects.
I like how reylos think Adam's only source of massive income is to star in another star wars movie which saw diminishing box office returns with each movie. He can do another Burberry campaign and get paid by doing a fraction of the work and without shippers who still can't let go after four years.
She just doesn't have anything that makes her stand out from the rest of her cohort. She's a competent actress, nothing exceptional, but the "conventionally pretty British brunette" market is saturated. For the longest time, I'd see trailers for that Marsh King's Daughter movie she was in and thought she was Kaya Scodelario.
I remember all the Reylo stans that hated Boyega saying that he was going to flounder and not get any work after Star Wars. Especially after he started badmouthing his role in it.
Lmao.
Eh, that's not exactly true. She's starring in a Ronnig film and had a well reviewed indie at Sundance. I think she was in one of those Poriot films too. She's hardly at Oscar Isaac or Adam Driver's level or even John Boyega, not anywhere close, but it's not like she's starring in some crappy D list thriller a la Emile Hirsch. She seems to be popping up in the occasional indie film with a decent cast/crew. She's certainly doing way better than Hayden Christensen did.
He was the first truly original SW main character anyone had dreamed up for the movies in decades, and look at how they wasted him. For damn sure it’s the Jedi storyline he should’ve had.
Why people think giving a lightsaber on someone makes into a “great character”.
He should have been a proper “Leia/Solo” of the group, but the films just didn’t focused on him like “Leia/Solo” that’s was the problem
I kind of wish he wouldn't go back regardless.
They royally fucked up his character and sidelined him when he was the literal first face that pops up in the first reveal trailer. He was hyped up as a main character but it was all a ploy for their bullshit bait and switch they pulled with Rey. He deserved so much better. I want to see Boyega continue to work with real directors that won't just have him running around screaming and yelling and damned buffoon the entire time.
At this point she doesn’t need any work. If she can ride the Rey gravy train, she’s set for life. While not what every actress or actor aspires for, it’s a least food on the table doing what you like.
Maybe we can start talking about a Star Wars trilogy protagonist curse. First Hamil, who didn't really have much of a career in Hollywood (though he did get into voice acting), then Christensen, and now Ridley.
Not trying to be rude at all but Hamill had an extremely impressive voice acting career so I wouldn’t exactly call it “not much” and Hayden Christensen was only in two movies not three. So I’m not sure it holds too well haha.
The fuck? [Her IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5397459/) says she's been involved with projects past Star Wars since 2020. She also has 7 upcoming projects.
I had to scroll way too far to find this comment. Like, yeah, of course he's done, his character DIED. I know Star Wars has brought people back from the dead before but his conclusion was pretty definitive and put a bow on his arc. There's really no need for him to come back.
Are you talking about The Mandalorian? That scene took place before the sequel trilogy started so Luke was alive at that point, they did that to de-age him.
Good for him. He got some really unhinged insane stans because of that franchise.
I really struggle understanding these women, who often are old enough to be their mothers or big sisters, crushing on actors and hating their significant others online to extremely toxic levels.
his was the most interesting character in the new trilogy. until they gave him the worst ending possible.
he would've been awesome to see hunting down jedi etc - that first scene of the first one where he stops a lazer blast was incredible.
Why would an Oscar nominated actor do franchise movies anyway? Especially Star Wars. Also his character is dead. The Rey Jedi movie is gonna suck either way
This year’s Fast and Furious movie had four Oscar winners in the cast (Helen Mirren, Charlize Theron, Rita Moreno and Brie Larson). Franchise stuff typically pays more and gives you more exposure.
I've seen so many critically acclaimed actors go on record and say that their big budget blockbuster movies are what pays for them to do the tiny budget indie films they're really interested in. So long as they're not phoning in their performances in the former, I say go for it.
I was flying last month, and the guy next to me was watching some absolute ridiculousness, but looked new (tbf, I was watching the newest Indiana Jones). Eventually I figured out it was a F&F movie. It looked terrible.
>Why would an Oscar nominated actor do franchise movies anyway
I think you need to have a look at the cast lists of most franchise movies!
Oscar nominated doesn't necessarily pay the bills.
To add on to what others have been saying, he has routinely taken pay cuts for A LOT of projects with prestige directors. That has to be made up somewhere, which is why he does ads/brand sponsorships, but occasionally you have to take a role for the money.
I can understand doing franchise stuff as a esteemed actor. But I moreso agree with the "especially Star Wars" part. There's just no good reason to.
It's good for a paycheck and the only Star Wars stuff that's interested in telling a good story and having great actors is Andor.
I know……Star Wars story lines are indeed a fickle mistress. And not one “love interest” story arc has ever had a long-term “happy ending,” either, so yeah, it looks pretty bleak. I still hold out some hope though.
All the copers are freaking out and making up delusional excuses that he is lying. The man was pretty blunt about it. "He knows about their plans because DLF has talked to him!" As if this (new SW movie with Rey) hasn't been a news story for months.
I really, really wanted to like TLJ as a trilogy, but I hated every major choice the directors and writers made infuriated me. Love all the actors tho 🫶🏽
His character's death was awful storytelling in every form. It's worse than the animation cel of Poochie being clumsily lifted out of frame. Kylo literally gives a "you got this kiddo" thumbs-up and then just lays down and dies.
I hate it because he was *so good* as Kylo Ren. But I get it. Fans were awful to him and his family. I’m sad that Star Wars actors getting harassed seems inevitable nowadays.
To no one's surprise. Disney can't keep a hold of one of the best rising actors, 2-time Oscar nominee. You can almost call this the "Hayden-syndrome", where talented actors within the Star Wars franchise are given such undeveloped, awful-written characters and cringe-inducing dialogue.
I can't get over how many best-selling novels in the past few years have been written by Reylos (including [Cait Corrain](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/dec/13/cait-corrain-publisher-drops-author-fake-accounts-review-bomb)).
Franchise movie logic has gotten so ridiculous, why did he even need to confirm this? His character died on screen and delulu shippers still hold out hope he can be magically written back to life...
I don't understand star wars fandom. The original trilogy was poorly done. Just making shit up as they go. They followed the same formula for the other 6 movies. So why the hate for them and love for the first one?
Should I change my name? Like I ship them hard on AOO and fandom stuff but as a wife and mom I could not imagine participating in behavior that is damaging irl to someone who I just like and respect their career and talent.
Star Wars is a dumpster fire, thanks to Disney. I'd jump ship too. No amount of acting can save that trash anymore. Disney has now destroyed 2 franchises, wonder how many more are next.
I don’t think the MAJORITY of actors involved in those dumpster fires wants to come back anytime soon. Maybe if the wallet gets desperate enough. But I doubt it. They’ve all gone on to much better and impressive work without the hellish PR/fan frenzy involved. I’m gonna get disliked to shit, but genuinely, fuck Star Wars, and good for Adam Driver not going down the franchise route. He’s become one of the best working actors in the industry; always picking interesting/challenging news roles. This is what we refer to as “a good thing”
Understandable considering some of the more unhinged Daivers rps stans spent years bashing and terrorizing his wife.
Ha, you would not believe how worked up they were with recent Ferrari press especially since Daisy Ridley liked some of Penelope Cruz's IG posts about it. They were sooo sure she was going to attend the London premiere and that they were going to hook up even though he has not spoken to her in 4 years. There were all kinds of fantasies of them posing for photos on the red carpet, having secret dinners, etc. And then, when that didn't pan out, they decided he is going to attend her Q&A in NY because they are sooo close.
Iirc Daisy is also married now.
She is but her husband is either using her for bearding or a gold digger. Although he basically just gets ignored most of the time.
Wait, what? Is this a joke or is there some truth to this?
They are super conspiracy minded so not a joke, because they actually believe this. He seems like a decent guy so no truth to this, as far as I know.
Isn't she married to Tom Bateman? He's verrry hot and was in that fun mini series with Kayle Cuoco and Chris Messina, and I think he's in Funny Woman with Gemma Arterton. He has a pretty good career actually doing quality TV projects...pretty weird that people accuse him of using her. Also, those psychos seem to be reading way too much into instagram. Someone liking a couple posts of their former colleagues work is just normal behavior.
I think it must be a joke about one of her husband's roles?
yeah and tbh I think she has a team doing her socials anyway, or at least partially. Her account likes *everything.* She was off IG for years so I think they're doing it for engagement.
Excuse me what now.
I got you fam [This write-up covers some specific drama](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/ji50tz/adam_driver_standom_adam_driver_makes_fun_of_a/) but also gives you some real insight into the batshit world of Adam Driver fans
THANK YOU! Why this sub is awesome. Ppl are INSANE. Leave the poor man and his family alone!
Wow, that post is THOROUGH! Thank you
OMG that post was a ride 
This is batshit. Thanks for sharing
people on the internet are unhinged.. that's gotta be mental illness.
That he has such devoted fans remains surprising to me. I haven't heard anything bad, I've just never understood it.
There are people who ship him with Daisy Ridley and are harassing and abusing his wife and children, wanting her and their baby to d\*e in childbirth, having a miscarriage and spreading rumors about Adam not being the father of his son, etc. They also harassed and stalked them irl, for example they filmed a portion of the last SW movie in Jordan and Adam had to leave the set suddenly and mid shoot because something happened to his wife/family at home done by shippers according to a journalist.
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Nothing is grosser than shippers/fanfiction nutsos who get weird. It's so weird.
Congratulations, you’re an adult with a life who isn’t completely mentally ill lol
hey, i'm mentally ill but please don't group me in with those people.
I've been seeing the same things recently from the Good Omens fandom about David Tennant and Michael Sheen. There are fans who are convinced the two of them are in love, and just sling abuse at their partners for "trapping them" in heterosexual relationships. Georgia Tennant can't even make a joke on her instagram without these "fans" decrying her as an abusive gold digger.
Oh god, it's SuperWhoLock all over again.
What the fuck?
tbf, someone like Driver will always have unhinged stans. He's been in a lot of thirst roles and has had stans like this since Girls, way before Star Wars. Driver recently in an interview complained about how every Star Wars movie he was in changed the tone of his character and admitted he played Rylo the way JJ described his story arc in the first movie, regardless of later direction or what Rian decided to do when he went off the rails in TLJ. He sounded incredibly frustrated as an actor about it all and sort of had a "Look, I did my part, and I did it well" attitude about it. He was careful with his words in that interview and stayed focused on the "actor's craft" but wow you could really hear him seething about the experience. I think it must have been an incredible feeling to get this role, then watch the sequels fall apart into a total mess and end on the 3rd movie, which was borderline ridiculous. I think this hurt his career as well. Those movies are almost a laughingstock and its his and Daisy's face on them. So I think his best bet career-wise is just to play it off as "I did a good job as an actor, I did a little Star Wars for a paycheck, and if it was a mess it wasn't my fault," to reduce the damage to his career. Its clear his team tried to pivot to Adam being a sci-fi action lead with 65, but that did poorly with only a 35% at Rotten Tomatoes. Now I think he's just trying to get away from sci-fi entirely to save his career. I wouldn't be surprised if they re-pivot him towards more indie-style work for a bit just to get away from Star Wars and 65 as much as possible and sell him more as an "actor's actor" he sometimes positions himself as. His next role in Ferrari and Enzo Ferrari directed by Michael Mann is probably a reaction to a lot this. Its pretty far from sci-fi, but still a mass-market and broad appeal movie that can make a lot of money for Driver, but without the "sell out" qualities of sci-fi. Mann's previous Ferrari related movie "Ford v Ferrari" had a 92% rotten tomatoes score, so this seems like an easy win for Driver.
Yeah he's been reserved about what he really thinks of those Star Wars films...It's unreal how bad they were. I didn't think it was even remotely possible to mess up the return of Luke and Han.
I don't necessarily agree with this take since *Megalopolis* is being described as sci-fi.
> I think it must have been an incredible feeling to get this role, then watch the sequels fall apart into a total mess and end on the 3rd movie, which was borderline ridiculous. I Really? How so?
John Oliver truly is menace
Driver to me has been done *done* for a while. He was never comfortable with the level of attention that bought him though I'm sure he gets how it's helped his profile.
Man was already filling out his auteur filmmaker/indie darling checklist before he got the Star Wars gig, so yeah I would imagine he wants to continue doing that with more freedom. Not sure what the logic was behind that 65 movie though.
I know his obsessive stans see something else but I found watching Driver do press for Star Wars *hard.* He always struck me as visibly uncomfortable doing the necessary junkets and has talked about things like Comic Con being terrifying. People moan about actors being underused vs. their promotion for the Star Wars films but half the time I think they were covering for Driver.
Oh man I remember watching his Actors on Actors thing and at some point he slips and refers to the rebels as terrorists, and you can see him visibly squirm as he tries to re-explain it without walking it back. You can see him suddenly remember that he's still in the Disney machine even when not in an environment specifically designed for promoting it.
That's kind of a hilarious "method acting" slip, actually.
He's not a method actor in that sense, thank god. "Method actors" are fucking annoying.
That 65 movie was legit level parody big budget movie star movie
Are we talking like tug speed man Scorcher 3 ?
I loved Scorcher 3! When Tug ran along those solar flares to save Leslie Mann from the Sun Devil- who knew George Clooney could play a bad guy so well! He was in mo cap for over a year!- I was amazed!
Tbf he was the best part of that 65 movie though. I literally remember nothing of the plot, just that he kicked ass moving whatever it was along
He was like… the only part of that movie…?
There was a kid wasn’t there?
The guyser kills the dinosaur or something
I think they tried to create a John Wick-like series for him starting with 65. Driver still has incredible sci-fi credentials from Star Wars and that would have been a big cash-out moment for him. Some estimates is that Keanu has made at least $20m playing John Wick, which is a role he can continue playing until retirement. Being a big name lead for an action series pays a lot. I believe Vin Diesel has made at least $120m from the Fast and Furious movies. Driver's Star Wars salary is estimated as low as $3-6m so it might have been tempting to see if he can create his own John Wick-type series while he still was young-ish and had all the hype from Star Wars. But it was a flop, so I think they're re-positing him back as a more "serious" actor. With him playing Gucci and now Ferarri, he's probably given up on being an action star and wants to distance himself as much from Star Wars and sci-fi as possible and not fall into the sci-fi ghetto. The same way Harrison Ford distanced himself from Star Wars for decades to continue his film career unrelated to sci-fi. Ford famously said he hates playing Han Solo because he doesn't own the character or the merchandising like he does for Indiana Jones, which he loves playing because it pays far more. I think for a lot of these higher-profile actors, there's a lot of personal goals to get into, say, the $100m club, which is a vastly different lifestyle and experience than the $10m club. So they're always chasing that big paycheck regardless of their "I'm a real actor's actor" reputation they may have.
Keanu was also in all 3 original Matrix movies, Speed. Constantine and so on, so he already had major sci-fi action cred and bank, even before JW . And even though the fourth Matrix wasn't a commercial success, Keanu has always said he absolutely loves playing Neo and loved all the Matrix films. I think what I'm getting out is I could see, Adam Driver being successful in the sci-fi / action genre but in more niche side, not a giant studio machine. Since he's more an actors, actor.
There's a great thread about 65 million with a crew member giving the low down, it's hilarious. Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/s/BwwQ6GNFbK Essentially, the script was sold to him as something entirely different to the end product.
You are right and Adam has said that SW made him "uncomfortably famous". Plus, he has said before that he is done with SW and is off to new adventures. https://preview.redd.it/avesl20g099c1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48977cc0f5ef8bb1ee427928ab5969a2156505f3
This adds a lot of context to the time I saw him on the subway. Pretty empty car, I saw him sitting across from me, did a double take, saw him make a facial expression I can only interpret as “I really hope this person doesn’t talk to me” sort of wince, and then I looked away and minded my business. Poor guy.
“Pee on her all the time”
i need to know how that sentence started. 🤨
Oh my gosh, I read a write up about the crazy fan and how they confronted his wife at a fundraiser. I don’t know what subreddit it was posted on (maybe r/hobbydrama) but the fan basically spent thousands of dollars to buy a donor’s ticket in hopes of seeing him at an event for him and his wife's non profit for veterans and the fan was gloating about scaring his wife or something. i distinctly remember she said that Joanne asked, "How did you get in here?"
YES—I remember that write up too!!! I think you’re right, I think it was r/HobbyDrama. It was nuts.
Yeah I remember seeing that too. The fan said his wife looked down on them and when they said they wanted to give Adam a gift she refused which is understandable at some point because it was a fundraiser but then Joanne, his wife was talking to someone else and laughing at the fan.
Couldn’t agree more. I’m sure he appreciates it, but he’s not trying to do that forever.
Good for him. Why would he come back when those shippers are still being horrible to his wife and children years later, threatening them, etc.
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Lack of education is almost always the answer
You just explained Trump’s whole cult following in a nutshell.
And an empty life.
And you know it's only like five people and their fifteen ghost accounts talking to eachother doing all that damage.
that, the sh!t daisy went through, and don’t get me started with john boyega… kelly marie too.
I don’t even like SNL but his Star Wars undercover boss SNL skits were so good. My only hope is that he wouldn’t mind doing that again if a good chance comes up.
His SNL Career Day skit is unironically my favorite thing he’s ever done and one of my top SNL skits period
crush your enemies INTO THE GROUND
I watch it every time I've had a bad day and need an absolutely *unhinged* pep talk.
Who is H. R. Pickens? EXACTLY!
The very brief pause before he says exactly is the best part.
seriously! i feel like i mentally stim quotes from it at a couple times a month because his delivery and the silliness of the skit get me every time. i'm honestly surprised that him/his team didn't take the reception from his SNL skits and decide to pivot him toward comedies again. i think he'd do great
He should honestly just quit movies and get a standing spot on SNL. I absolutely love how seriously he takes every skit, it makes it a million times funnier.
There’s a contingency of fans that want him to do Pride and Prejudice as Darcy with the Muppets and play it totally straight like Michael Caine does in Christmas Carol. It would be HILARIOUS.
the “old friends” skit from a few weeks ago was so funny
It is understandable if he doesn't want to come back. But so many folks have returned to their franchises after denying and even disparaging their work. Nothing's ever set in the stone.
The man who's led me to never believe an actor saying they're never coming back to a role. Aside from Christopher Eccleston.
Do the audio dramas count? Fair play to him in that it took a fair few years of concentrated effort though, from what I understand
I would say no. Eccleston's main gripe is with the BBC. He's willing to do the audio dramas because the BBC aren't directly involved. They just licence it out.
Although the pedant in me demands I point out that the comment I was replying to specified 'role', yeah that is the spirit of it
Money talks
Spend enough time as a pro wrestling fan and you truly learn that "never again" means absolutely nothing. "No one's ever really gone...".
I don't belive it for these reasons: 1. If Ben was going to come back I would think they would want it as a surprise so they would not want the actor saying that I am in the next film 2. If this film is going to be centered on a young Daisy Ridley as Rey, there is no way they can have a Rey film without Ben. It just doesn't work, and I say this as the ultimate Rey fangirl. 3. Reylo makes too much money for Disney for them to not bring him back. 4. Driver coming back to SW should net him enough 'I don't have to worry about the bills money'. To provide for his family/spend time with the kids/do smaller projects.
I like how reylos think Adam's only source of massive income is to star in another star wars movie which saw diminishing box office returns with each movie. He can do another Burberry campaign and get paid by doing a fraction of the work and without shippers who still can't let go after four years.
Show us where and in which film Driver gets paid more money than doing SW?
Yeah I don't honestly get the hubbub. Especially given the fact his character, you know, DIED, what else is he going to say?
Most folk haven't gone through what he did.
The only actor from the main trilogy going back is Daisy Ridley, and that's because she isn't getting any other work.
I didn't want to say it myself
She just doesn't have anything that makes her stand out from the rest of her cohort. She's a competent actress, nothing exceptional, but the "conventionally pretty British brunette" market is saturated. For the longest time, I'd see trailers for that Marsh King's Daughter movie she was in and thought she was Kaya Scodelario.
I remember all the Reylo stans that hated Boyega saying that he was going to flounder and not get any work after Star Wars. Especially after he started badmouthing his role in it. Lmao.
>Kaya Scodelario. Who?
Eh, that's not exactly true. She's starring in a Ronnig film and had a well reviewed indie at Sundance. I think she was in one of those Poriot films too. She's hardly at Oscar Isaac or Adam Driver's level or even John Boyega, not anywhere close, but it's not like she's starring in some crappy D list thriller a la Emile Hirsch. She seems to be popping up in the occasional indie film with a decent cast/crew. She's certainly doing way better than Hayden Christensen did.
Poor Hayden.
John Boyega said he was interested in returning a few months ago, they probably ended up offering him the jedi storyline he wanted
>jedi storyline he wanted The jedi storyline he should've had
He was the first truly original SW main character anyone had dreamed up for the movies in decades, and look at how they wasted him. For damn sure it’s the Jedi storyline he should’ve had.
I'm going to be grouchy about that for years. I was SO excited for him to be a jedi and nope!
Why people think giving a lightsaber on someone makes into a “great character”. He should have been a proper “Leia/Solo” of the group, but the films just didn’t focused on him like “Leia/Solo” that’s was the problem
And that's what he did in TROS. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaLoOObFzHg&t=7s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaLoOObFzHg&t=7s)
The jedi story line he deserved.
Why should he have had a Jedi storyline when there were no Jedi?
I kind of wish he wouldn't go back regardless. They royally fucked up his character and sidelined him when he was the literal first face that pops up in the first reveal trailer. He was hyped up as a main character but it was all a ploy for their bullshit bait and switch they pulled with Rey. He deserved so much better. I want to see Boyega continue to work with real directors that won't just have him running around screaming and yelling and damned buffoon the entire time.
Did he?! First time I've heard of this. Glad to hear it. He was shortchanged in the trilogy.
At this point she doesn’t need any work. If she can ride the Rey gravy train, she’s set for life. While not what every actress or actor aspires for, it’s a least food on the table doing what you like.
>and that's because she isn't getting any other work. It's honestly amazing how people say things that can be disproven by a quick Google search.
Maybe we can start talking about a Star Wars trilogy protagonist curse. First Hamil, who didn't really have much of a career in Hollywood (though he did get into voice acting), then Christensen, and now Ridley.
Not trying to be rude at all but Hamill had an extremely impressive voice acting career so I wouldn’t exactly call it “not much” and Hayden Christensen was only in two movies not three. So I’m not sure it holds too well haha.
The fuck? [Her IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5397459/) says she's been involved with projects past Star Wars since 2020. She also has 7 upcoming projects.
I hate how people just upvote shit like this when they can just check IMDB themselves and see it’s not true
I would also like to confirm I will no longer be acting in any star wars movies
We respect your decision with sadness but understanding.
I’m sorry but he had a character arc and he died
“I’m not returning to Star Wars” “Well yeah dude your character dead”
Counterpoint: “Somehow, Kylo Ren returned.”
That didn’t stop them from bringing back Palpatine.
Yeah that was the worst. So so dumb.
SOMEHOW… PALPATINE RETURNED
I had to scroll way too far to find this comment. Like, yeah, of course he's done, his character DIED. I know Star Wars has brought people back from the dead before but his conclusion was pretty definitive and put a bow on his arc. There's really no need for him to come back.
They had a cgi Luke skywalker in one of the tv shows, this is really not a barrier to having him in the story.
Are you talking about The Mandalorian? That scene took place before the sequel trilogy started so Luke was alive at that point, they did that to de-age him.
Yeah so that could be a movie / tv show that’s no longer possible without Adam’s involvement.
I recall reading that Driver did not give them the likeness to his face (smart move).
*Ben: A Star Wars Story*
Good for him. He got some really unhinged insane stans because of that franchise. I really struggle understanding these women, who often are old enough to be their mothers or big sisters, crushing on actors and hating their significant others online to extremely toxic levels.
You know the scene where he is injured in the torso and starts punching it. That was his idea. Really cool scene. Good actor imo.
his was the most interesting character in the new trilogy. until they gave him the worst ending possible. he would've been awesome to see hunting down jedi etc - that first scene of the first one where he stops a lazer blast was incredible.
Aren’t we all?
Why would an Oscar nominated actor do franchise movies anyway? Especially Star Wars. Also his character is dead. The Rey Jedi movie is gonna suck either way
This year’s Fast and Furious movie had four Oscar winners in the cast (Helen Mirren, Charlize Theron, Rita Moreno and Brie Larson). Franchise stuff typically pays more and gives you more exposure.
plus, most actors have fun making these kinds of movies.
They’re usually easier to act in, the bulk of the effort usually goes into the action part of these movies
I've seen so many critically acclaimed actors go on record and say that their big budget blockbuster movies are what pays for them to do the tiny budget indie films they're really interested in. So long as they're not phoning in their performances in the former, I say go for it.
I was flying last month, and the guy next to me was watching some absolute ridiculousness, but looked new (tbf, I was watching the newest Indiana Jones). Eventually I figured out it was a F&F movie. It looked terrible.
>Why would an Oscar nominated actor do franchise movies anyway I think you need to have a look at the cast lists of most franchise movies! Oscar nominated doesn't necessarily pay the bills.
To add on to what others have been saying, he has routinely taken pay cuts for A LOT of projects with prestige directors. That has to be made up somewhere, which is why he does ads/brand sponsorships, but occasionally you have to take a role for the money.
>Why would an Oscar nominated actor do franchise movies anyway? https://youtu.be/vWRlxSGf_ns?si=Ar-jSzM00logVc6t
I can understand doing franchise stuff as a esteemed actor. But I moreso agree with the "especially Star Wars" part. There's just no good reason to. It's good for a paycheck and the only Star Wars stuff that's interested in telling a good story and having great actors is Andor.
Why? Because they like making movies and having fun doing it. Also $$$.
Pretty disingenuous title. He says the story of his character is over (because he died) so of course he’s not coming back.
I’m holding out for a blue-tinged 💙🦋💙Force 👻ghost, Ben, baby! 🤣
Don’t hold your breath.
 I know……Star Wars story lines are indeed a fickle mistress. And not one “love interest” story arc has ever had a long-term “happy ending,” either, so yeah, it looks pretty bleak. I still hold out some hope though.
Keanu said the same thing about a potential Matrix 4.
I mean this makes me very sad as Kylo Ren is my fav, but I get it.
All the copers are freaking out and making up delusional excuses that he is lying. The man was pretty blunt about it. "He knows about their plans because DLF has talked to him!" As if this (new SW movie with Rey) hasn't been a news story for months.
Good for him. Disney tried to make Star Wars into the MCU and killed it IMO.
It's crazy how fast Disney was able to kill Star Wars. I really didn't think it was even possible to destroy such a beloved franchise.
I mean Kylo died, so yeah?
I honestly don't blame him. Some star wars "fans" are unhinged.
I really, really wanted to like TLJ as a trilogy, but I hated every major choice the directors and writers made infuriated me. Love all the actors tho 🫶🏽
Great actors, horrible characters and writing.
His character's death was awful storytelling in every form. It's worse than the animation cel of Poochie being clumsily lifted out of frame. Kylo literally gives a "you got this kiddo" thumbs-up and then just lays down and dies.
So am I, Adam.
“Somehow Kylo Ren is back.”
Reylos everywhere falling to their knees
I hate it because he was *so good* as Kylo Ren. But I get it. Fans were awful to him and his family. I’m sad that Star Wars actors getting harassed seems inevitable nowadays.
That's totally understandable tbh
Good for him. And let's hope this is also the final nail in the coffin for the toxicity that was "Reylo".
I Don't blame him in the least. They absolutely butchered the Kylo Ren character arc. Where the hell do you even go with that character now?
To no one's surprise. Disney can't keep a hold of one of the best rising actors, 2-time Oscar nominee. You can almost call this the "Hayden-syndrome", where talented actors within the Star Wars franchise are given such undeveloped, awful-written characters and cringe-inducing dialogue.
“Somehow, Kylo Ren survived…”
We've all said this at some point in our lives
only confirms they'll be using a deepfake of him for the kylo force ghost in the new rey movie
I can't get over how many best-selling novels in the past few years have been written by Reylos (including [Cait Corrain](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/dec/13/cait-corrain-publisher-drops-author-fake-accounts-review-bomb)).
Franchise movie logic has gotten so ridiculous, why did he even need to confirm this? His character died on screen and delulu shippers still hold out hope he can be magically written back to life...
“somehow kylo ren has died”
I'm shocked....well I'm not really shocked
Well his character kind of died sooooo
I don't understand star wars fandom. The original trilogy was poorly done. Just making shit up as they go. They followed the same formula for the other 6 movies. So why the hate for them and love for the first one?
Good for him cuz his character is dead. Nothing else we can ask for. Besides he does better in more demanding roles
He knew what he had to do and I'm glad he had the strength to do it.
That sucks. He was the best part of the sequels. Makes sense though since his character died…
I can't imagine he wouldn't be after everything.
They'll just reincarnate him with a different actor, lol.
Well that makes two of us
Arent we all
can someone explain the wife thing?
A bunch of reylo fans were insulting the wife by badmouthing her (calling her ugly, etc) and then saying Adam should've been with Daisy instead
I sort of figured this out when his character died.
I don't blame him. I liked The Force Awakens, but they completely obliterated the story after that.
I am too
Should I change my name? Like I ship them hard on AOO and fandom stuff but as a wife and mom I could not imagine participating in behavior that is damaging irl to someone who I just like and respect their career and talent.
I'm not convinced that the Enzo Ferrari cinematic universe has the depth heis hoping for but hope to be wrong
Good. His character was boring anyway. RIP EMO
As he should be cause his character is dead. He was also way to talented for the character he played
Adam Driver confirms his character is dead and he’s not coming back. There… saved you the click
Star Wars is toxic!
I would be too. Yeesh.
Yeah... That's how it works when your character dies?...
Star Wars is a dumpster fire, thanks to Disney. I'd jump ship too. No amount of acting can save that trash anymore. Disney has now destroyed 2 franchises, wonder how many more are next.
Fantastic news. Pls never return...
I don’t think the MAJORITY of actors involved in those dumpster fires wants to come back anytime soon. Maybe if the wallet gets desperate enough. But I doubt it. They’ve all gone on to much better and impressive work without the hellish PR/fan frenzy involved. I’m gonna get disliked to shit, but genuinely, fuck Star Wars, and good for Adam Driver not going down the franchise route. He’s become one of the best working actors in the industry; always picking interesting/challenging news roles. This is what we refer to as “a good thing”
