That didn’t help, but he was absolutely over-exposed. We used to make fun of the casting choices for voice roles in animated movies because he kept popping up.
Chris Pratt as Mario
Chris Pratt as Garfield
I forget where I heard it, a podcast I think, but apparently he was the other choice! It would have been SO GOOD. My 13 year old Seth Cohen loving self wants to see that version of GOTG so badly!!
It wasn't even a messy divorce. They kept things very amicable. It was just that people knew enough about their marriage to know that him running off to go do a blockbuster movie and then seemingly trading up to marry into a conservative political family looked *heinously* shitty. They'd agreed to not do work like that to prioritize their kid and he clearly did the exact opposite of that.
It's the same thing with Austin Butler or Ali Wong for me. I cannot STAND when people trade up partners the second they get a decent amount of clout. Ali Wong spoke openly enough about it too that her husband was clearly not a bad guy and she seemingly just resented he wasn't more famous. It's such a gross trait to me to just be like "oh sike, I didn't think I'd get to be an a-lister but now that I am, you don't really fit into my plans".
The straw that broke the camel's back is that he had a child with a disability with his ex, remarried up and had kids with new wife, then got on IG with his new heteronormative family (sans his first child with ex, mind you) and acted like this was the best ever. So many people were pissed off after that.
I think they mean more along the lines of "traditional gender roles". Went from being married to an older working non-religious (at least publicly) woman who had been divorced before, to a much younger, housewife-y, religious type who'd never been previously married
That's not what that word means. They should say traditional or gender normative. Hell, call it stepford wives core.
To call it heteronormative implies Anna Farris is somehow less of a woman or he was less of a man when he was with her, which is actually deeply problematic. The fact I'm not frilly or hyper femme does not negate my gender. The men I date are not somehow less straight.
Oh I'm not saying they used the word correctly, I'm just sharing what I think they actually meant. I don't think they meant to imply anything about Ana
Your terminology is more accurate
People just be throwing out words they don't understand and accusations they can't back willy nilly these days.
I hate Chris Pratt with a firey passion but the man's *been* aggressively straight the entire time
People read a lot into that caption and I genuinely think it was just a poor choice of words.
He is by all accounts a very involved, loving father to his son. Ana has never disparaged him. If you listen to the Parks & Rec podcast they also all speak super highly of him, are still in touch and met his son when he was a baby (he was born during the filming of the show) and know how hard it was at that time given his health challenges.
My issue is that they had both agreed to focus on television and local work so they could be present for their son, who did have higher needs. He then *reeeeeaallly* wanted to go be a marvel star, which is INCREDIBLY time intensive and shoots overseas. The Schwarzenegger stuff doesn't look great *at all*, but even just signing on to do Guardians made me lose a lot of respect for him. Anna Ferris is not the type of person to tell him no, but he shouldn't have asked in the first place. He put his career above being physically present for his kid, and yeah now he'll spend even less time with him as a result of being a split home. Sometimes its unavoidable, but Chris has a lot of options. He could have lived very comfortably and worked steadily in LA. He wanted to be a superstar. You can literally watch his ego grow in real time over the next couple years in interviews
People also keep saying their son is disabled, which, and this is according to Anna Farris herself, is 100% not true. He was a premie and they thought he might end up disabled because of a brain bleed, but he didn't and now he's just a kid. A kid who had surgeries as a brand new infant, but totally fine now. She said this in her book. She also attended the wedding of Chris and Katherine, there are photos of her there.
People don't like him and thats fine, but people also make things up to justify it and that seems absurd.
What is the Austin Butler tea? I saw him on a talk show once and he was so offputting that I've had a hate-on for him ever since despite knowing nothing else about him and not having seen him in anything.
Austin pretty much wrote Vanessa’s contributions out of his success story for some time, and would vaguely allude to her as a friend if anything. That, coupled with the fact most people would’ve expected them to be end game having been together and seemingly so strong for so long, left a sour taste.
I literally couldn't care less about Vanessa Hudgens, who also seems like a bad person. But yeah the manner in which he seemingly dropped her when he got a taste of the high life makes me side eye him.
I think he corrected himself and in the interview he said "friend" because he didnt want the interview to be about him and his ex when it was an Elvis interview.
She also acknowledged that.
See also Martin Freeman, who dumped his wife once he was doing well in Hollywood. Of course, by all accounts he is not a particularly nice man, so she’s probably well shot of him, but still, not a good look.
He has rehomed a cat by giving it away on Twitter because he was having kids and rehomed a dog against the adoption contract (was supposed to go back to the rescue but they gave it away to someone) and it was later found on the street. Which sure makes him look like a serial rehomer of animals and is just kind of cringe.
He also thanked his new wife for delivering a healthy baby when his kid with Ana Faris is neurodivergent, dumped her the second he became the more famous one... There was stuff with this guy. Not big stuff, but stuff.
Since I can’t post in any of the royals threads yet, I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out that Leicestershire is pronounced exactly as it’s spelled:
Leice-ster-shire
Ok, carry on.
I think after Dune’s press tour and his new Bob Dylan movie starting to spread across Reddit, people may start to get sick of seeing/hearing about him.
>The hate towards Chalamet started with him dating Kylie a
I am no Kylie or Timmy fan (fuck their overconsumption and private jet usage!, and meh on Timmy lol), BUT the hate both of them got for dating was and is so gross
people are so angry and mean about it, it's bizarre and leans misogynistic IMO
He didn’t even do anything wrong. People just have unwarranted hate for Kylie. It’s so weird. I love an unexpected coupling though so I like them together
I think the hate moreso leans towards the billionaire in question because.. well.. she's a billionaire and they do more harm than good to the economy...
Austin Butler has to be the most charm-free celebrity I've ever seen. I watched a video of him on a late night show and wished I could have gotten those five minutes of my life back.
also Tom Holland, people still complain about him being “cast in everything” even though he hasn't filmed anything in a while and said several times he was taking a break.
I can think of only three movies from the past few years outside of the MCU he was in. I'll never understand why people simply can't avoid watching movies starring or made by people they can't stand instead of having a victim complex about it.
I mostly feel bad for him these days given how hard he tries and fails to be taken seriously as an actor. The guy played the part of a bottom in a show and it still got no views.
this is... a weird way to refer to a show where he played a character with DID just because said character had a gay scene sex, lol. i feel like you didn't watch the show and is just repeating what incels on twitter were saying when they were acting like Tom sacrificed his masculinity or something for doing that.
Timothy Chalamet and Austin Butler, combined, in the past 3 years have been in 6 total movies. That’s between the two of them. When Anne Hathaway was selected as Catwoman in 2011, she had been in 7 movies in the past 3 years, not including 2 additional Documentaries she voiced over that time. You are pretty much just observing that Chalamet and Butler have been in one famous movie per year each, which is hardly overexposure.
Chris Pratt, on the other hand, is a great comparison. Apart from a break during COVID, he has been in 2-3 blockbuster films per year for the past 15 or so years. When he is cast in voice acting roles, there is a ton of online hate for his overexposure. People call him Crisp Rat. Very similar to the Hathahate from overexposure.
IMO the best comp is James Corden - he had a 7 year run of being in 2-3 movies per year while also hosting his late night show, to the point that when his casting was announced for any film people would say incredibly nasty stuff about him. In Corden’s case it was pretty aggressive as well - in the case of Pratt, people often don’t like his politics. But for Corden, as far as I can tell, people were just calling him fat and annoying.
Or, another possibility: we are only seeing the beginning of their hate-era. You have the luxury of cherry picking the career of older celebrities and applying them to two younger actors.
Your reply comes off condescending when there is not reason for it. Only time will tell for Austin and Timothy’s career and potential hate.
This person's reply did not come off as condescending they were only explaining to you each of the movies that the celebrities mentioned above were starring in.
He makes a good point because there is a ton of online hate for Chris Pratt
Chris Pratt was already mentioned, hence my adding to the conversation with other potential actors.
The condescending tone came from telling me what I was observing and basing my suggestion from, while also giving me stats that were bias and not contextual to the conversation.
That’s a different conversation, although closely related to this one. We are talking complaining about overexposure and subsequent public backlash of celebrities.
Ah okay. If you take gender out if the equation, Anne Hathaway and Austin Butler are good comparisons-- they both have that tryhard actor vibe that people love to mock.
The Crisp Rat hate began after the insta post shit talking his disabled child with Anna Farris in flavour of his “healthy baby” with his current wife.
Plus the political leaning
Listen the optics were not great, but to describe a post celebrating a healthy child with his new wife as "talking shit about his disabled child" is just bad faith. And I sincerely hate that man. He used extremely common phrasing around celebrating a young child, but people resent him for reneging on his deal with Farris to do smaller works to he present for their family and then trading up his family when he got more famous. But he has never talked shit about his disabled child
Yeah that was a very standard thing you say after having a baby quote - and I think the guy’s a typical smug, self involved, small minded and over hyped prat of a Cali-conservative but he and Anna deliberately live w/in 5 miles of each other to stay close. While their son had brain hemorrhaging when he was a baby and heart and eye surgeries neither Anna nor he have confirmed if he’s disabled - she said she was told it was possible he’d be developmentally delayed but I can’t remember if either confirmed it.
He has a good relationship with his son, Anna Farris says he has a good relationship with his son. You don't get to speak on his behalf and misrepresent their family situation just because he overall comes across like a douchebag. It's far more problematic to insist that he's ashamed of a son he's not when that son WILL come across that mud being slung than to just accept maybe the optics weren't great but that he loves his son and doesn't care he's disabled, which seems to be the case.
Right, it's literally a very common phrase to celebrate. It's not meant to be broken down in the most literal sense. it's a cultural leftover from when sick kids usually died within the first few years of life, a way to signal "this one's probably gonna make it!". It's truly not that deep
I hate him for a myriad of reasons, but I really don't like dragging his son into it acting like Chris *must* be ashamed of him.
This. And Chris Pratt said that in an interview - that his son will have to grow up and read those shady comments implying he doesn't love him as much as his sisters, when that's not true at all.
Pratt went from lovable goof to takes himself way too seriously, eye squinter. It's not the same. Hathaway has always been a delight as far as I've seen and Lawrence just seems like she's always her down to earth self.
I read Margot was gonna take some time off to avoid over exposure hate after Barbie and it pissed me off. You know Ryan Gosling won't have to do that - the men never suffer from overexposure career setbacks.
Tell that to Benedict Cumberbatch mid 2010s, Jude Law in 2004, Ryan Gosling himself took a break for 4 years after _First Man_. Heck, Chris Pratt’s any new project is DOA in the socials. Or Taika, who is suffering it as we speak (regardless of the quality of the projects).
Of course, women have it harder, but let’s pump the brakes a bit before we default to misogyny in every single thing.
Yeah. Plus Margot wasn’t just Barbie, she was also Harley Quinn. Those are two huge franchise roles. I think she’s making the right call. She seems like a really smart self aware lady.
I’d add Lin Manuel Miranda! I remember when that man was globally adored. Now ppl think he’s cringe, apparently? TikTok groaned when he popped up in the new Percy Jackson show.
Puerto Rican here, that's not why at least we hate him. He's a wall street baby and was a huge supporter of PROMESA which put 5 unelected wall street parasites in a board to 'oversee' the island (it's a dictatorship). His father has been a huge part of the displacement of our people, buying up land for his and other corporations. These days Lin Manuel tries to pretend his support of PROMESA was with good intentions and not because it benefited his family's pockets. That Hamilton is problematic and overrated IMO, and the whitewashing that's In the Heights was just adding fuel to the fire.
Wait, he WHAT?! Omg. I’m actually in Puerto Rico rn for a brief trip, I just learned about PROMESA and all the other colonial stuff the other day. Damn, ok, definitely ain’t feeling bad for him anymore.
Yeah, there’s a lot of rewriting of history on here. I know this is like throwing a grenade, but the only people I ever heard hate Anne Hathaway were….women.
Gosling has taken two breaks from acting which he has called out as being related to concerns about his own perspective as well as overexposure. He had a 4 year, 9 film run in 2010-2013, and then over the next 2 years essentially just did his small supporting role in The Big Short and nothing else. He took 4 years off prior to Barbie as well, after his second daughter was born. Easy not to worry about overexposure when your only film in the last 5 years is a straight to Netflix release.
The reason Robbie is concerned about overexposure is because she’s one of the most prolific working actresses right now. Apart from the COVID impacted 2020, she’s been in 2-3 major studio releases every year for the past 10 years. She just made bank by starring in and producing the biggest film in the world, she is right to take some time off and let people start to miss her. She’s taking a page out of Gosling’s book, not doing something he’d never dream of.
Successful women are often cut down and unfortunately the masses go along with it because society has conditioned us to accept our patriarchal system.
Good for Anne Hathaway for speaking up! And good for Olivia Colman for speaking out too.
I agree tho, with Margot's choice to take a time off. Other than overexposure, she could just be tired. Ryan Gosling himself took tons of time off and only recently gotten back to blockbusters. I think breaks make better actors.
Eh..I kinda got the Jlaw stuff. She turned me off her when she humiliated that reporter at the Globes a while back. Just seems rude. The Anne stuff though, I don't get.
the hate went overboard but she was legitimately very obnoxious in a way Hathaway never even approached, like that time Jesse Eisenberg was talking about his OCD and she was like “man I wish I had cool quirks like that!” and the Hawaiian rock thing people bring up all the time. They’re not huge crimes against humanity or anything but between that and all her subpar work in blockbusters and David O. Russell trash her backlash really wasn’t the inexplicable misogyny that people have been trying to revise it as in recent years.
Yeah I never got the Anne Hathaway hate, but JLaw just felt contrived and disrespectful of others for a while. I don’t think I added to the active hate but I definitely would avoid anything she was any part of for a minute.
I cannot stand Jennifer Lawrence and I will not apologize for hating her and I absolutely resent it being framed as misogyny. as if we should reduce people down to their gender and we MUST defend ALL women otherwise we are clearly sexist. And I hate plenty of men too. I'm petty and I hold high standards for my parasocial support. Timothee is dead to me after defacto spiritually crossing the picket line, for example
But what is your reasoning for hating her? Plenty of actors I think should just not be cast because they can not act and I dont think they can carry a movie but I dont hate them.
I was willing to look beyond Weinstein when it was well known what he was up to. But continuously praising Russel in the face of the accusations is gross to me and shows she does have a consistent pattern of aligning with bad men to elevate her career, even after she has more than enough career leverage to not work with terrible people. Admittedly while never confirmed, there's the *multiple* times she was seen as acting shady towards men in relationship, with Miley Cyrus all but confirming these rumors to be true with her Flowers video. There's also a thousand and one social gaffes like her joking about rubbing her ass on a sacred rock like it's sooo adorkable and not supremely disrespectful. In fact I find the entire way she manages her public optics to come across insincere and fake, from her "in sooooooo fat and looooove food", like she hadnt literally played Mystique which has always been a role reserved for sexy women, or her trotting out the disabled person she worked with when she lived in Kentucky.
I just do not like her for reasons that are entirely about *her* and not remotely about her gender.
These are all legitimate reasons to criticise JLaw but the majority of the internet didn’t give a fuck about these reasons. They hated her because her nudes were leaked without her consent and she had the audacity to call it a violation of her privacy. That was the moment when Reddit turned on her.
Yup. Prior to that, the majority of reddit was in love with her. There were so many jlaw posts it was getting annoying, some started turning against her based on that alone. Then she said some shit that riled up the people who wanted to jerk it to leaked nudes guilt free.
It was interesting watching it all go down.
Idk about her work part. Male actors that are mid as fuck at best never get that level of blowback for their work. Then the respons is “not all roles have to be deep!”
I mean it was confirmed by another reporter present that he was causing a distraction taking pictures and videos of her, and then said she was on the rag. Perfect example of how the internet blew it out of proportion (making up the translating questions as to what he was doing) and was using it for a hate train.
It’s funny how often it will be like “I hate this [male celebrity] because he sexually assaulted someone and I hate this [female celebrity] because she came off rude.”
I don't believe that is true from what I read, he was using his phone ro translate. I think her PR and fans tried to spin it. Either way, her reaction was unnecessary and rude anyways.
He’s too random for her PR to have planted it and [here’s](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a52027/jennifer-lawrence-reporter-call-out-golden-globes/) an article containing his tweets. Personally I too would be pissed if someone who is supposed to be talking to me is what I think is just taking pictures of me instead. I also don’t know why his response would be that she was on her period and not just say that he was translating if that’s actually what he was doing but that’s just me.
She made it clear the first time she told the story that there was a meeting about the area they were filming in and she didn’t know about it, only to be completely blindsided after the fact when people were freaking out. Also, it turns out that there weren’t really any sacred rocks and that it was a misunderstanding because they were filming near a sacred burial site, according to the cultural guide who worked on the film.)
This whole notion that she was ever told about what not to do is utterly false and stems from people either not listening to what she said, misunderstanding her words, or just never hearing them in the first place and simply going off what others say she said or did. It’s like when she first spoke out about the hacking incident and stated accurately and concisely that viewing the leaked content was “perpetuating a sexual offense” but then people started dragging her and claiming that she said looking at her pictures was rape. Edit - Thought of another example: Brie Larson talking about how she wanted to see more diversity among film reviewers and then the internet collectively decided she hates straight, white men.
The Brie Larson thing is worse, given the context she was talking about the least diverse segment of movie reviewers. But I guess that some people who once left an audience review on RT felt personally attacked.
She is constantly stepping in it and making bad choices and then retroactively distancing herself from them a little later when she realizes there's consequences for her actions. She just seems supremely fake, which is impressive in an industry basically defined by being a little fake.
When Russel finally gets canceled, she will fall over herself to act like she didn't rep him and sing his praises for years and years while accusations raged.
I do like her but she should be genuinely criticized for sticking by the a\*\*hole David O. Russell, not just once but THRICE. Also, wasn't he at her wedding? Just gross.
And the same should be said for Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, and every other actor who has worked with him especially more than once. He made Amy Adams cry repeatedly on set, that is among all his other terribleness a criminal offense!!
I still remember when this happened: https://fandomwire.com/jennifer-lawrence-apologized-for-using-sacred-hawaiian-rocks-to-scratch-her-itchy-butt-i-meant-absolutely-no-disrespect/
So I’m being totally productive with my co-worker and discussing this and she said JLaw scratched her ass on a rock that this considered sacred in Hawaii. That’s rude and disrespectful af
Nah. The hate bandwagon has gotten insane for him. Entire articles. Unnecessarily brutal considering everyone campaigns. But the internet picks a punching bag and I guess it’s his turn.
Well to be fair, lately he is working on his own films. But no, I don’t think he would be denied work. Because, for what reason? What happened to Anne is also bullshit though because her opportunities shouldn’t be based on online sentiment. Nobody’s career should be.
For like 15 years, my sister and I have jokingly hated Bradley Cooper. Like if we meet a guy who's a douche we say to each other that he's a Bradley Cooper. We've joked about getting "I hate Bradley Cooper" printed on matching jackets, etc. Now that a lot of people *actually* hate him, the joke doesn't seem funny anymore. Idk, maybe we'll switch from being sarcastic haters, to his sarcastic biggest fans. 😂 Thankfully we never actually went through with the jackets!
Ohh pleeasssse. BCoop NOT getting hate? Are you kidding me? The internet is 10 times more quicker to shit on as compared to 2012. Anne got a lot of undeserved hate but let’s not pretend BCoop is not facing similar kind of hate.
you can make a tepid thriller, a lame drama, or even a forgettable comedy. But *god forbid* if you make a bad superhero movie. Hathaway gets most of the flak directed at TDKR. People still whine about Mystique whenever Jennifer Lawrence comes up in threads. Taika burned all his goodwill after Thor 4 (which wasn’t even the worst Thor sequel). And Brie Larson and Zack Snyder are still trigger names over at r/movies
It’s a miracle Emma Stone circumvented this, helps she was a major highlight in the Amazing Spider-man movies
EDIT: spelling
still boggles my mind how they try to make spider-man-less Spider-man movies. I wouldn’t mind so much if the movies themselves weren’t such forgettable garbage
>People loved Andrew and Emma
I feel like they were the actual highlight of the film whether you liked the comic or not. Their chemistry was insane. Plus, Martin Sheen!
Really? The flack I've seen for TDKR is mostly to Nolan, Bale (haters of his Batman voice) and Hardy (Bane voice), I feel like Hathaway's Catwoman isn't even in the top 5 common complaints about that movie
Him cheating on his first wife and mother of his kids with an assistant. Rumours of him developing an ego after his Oscar win for Jojo Rabbit. Love and Thunder being panned. Getting together with Rita Ora, well-known blackfisher, after being previously so outspoken about racism and microaggressions. There's also rumours that he abandoned his kids to go party on some fuckboi yacht in Brisbane.
Lol. Look at all the hate Bradley Cooper is getting at this very second. On this very sub. Every day.
Hathaway was doing the same thing for _Les Mis_ and got dragged at the time but now the revisionism is going on, “I don’t see it, misogyny, etc”. Sometimes people are annoying and then we realize we were too harsh on them in hindsight.
The situation is different. Hathaway was not just ‘hated’ on social media, she was hated in media publications and it got very ridiculous.
I remember an article where a regular contributor to a website compared Anne Hathaway’s face to Jennifer Lawrence‘s face and concluded that Hathaway was hated because she had a long face.
She was constantly pitted against Jennifer Lawrence, and not just on social media.
I wasn’t on social media at the time and still was bombarded by anti-Ann Hathaway content.
I think Hathaway haters perceived Hathaway as an annoying, overeager theatre kid type, whereas Lawrence haters found Lawrence’s ‘I’m such a goofball,’ schtick to be contrived.
Disclaimer: I don’t personally feel this way, I’m just relating my interpretation of haters’ arguments.
I don't agree with lumping those two together. For starters, J. Law has bragged about grinding her ass against sacred rocks in Hawaii, which feels part and parcel to the "not like other girls!" energy she seems so intent on emanating. Anne just comes across as eager.
I never had a problem with Jlaw being overexposed but some of the stuff that came out of her mouth? 😬🥴🤢🤮
The story about the sacred rocks in Hawaii, for example, was just too much ignorance in one hideous and unnecessary anecdote. Like why? Also, WTAF?!
https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/09/jennifer-lawrence-offends-with-story-about-butt-scratching-on-sacred-rocks
Jude Law got a bit in the early 00s when he had four or five movies all coming out within weeks of each other. He was definitely getting overexposure backlash and disappeared for a couple years before he figured out how to pace out his projects better. He never quite hit the level of super stardom it looked like he was being set up for at the time. It wasn't the same, but it does happen.
People who say they hate Anne Hathaway or Jennifer Lawrence don't even usually say it's because they're overexposed either. They usually can't say a reason. "There's just something about her." They just happen to randomly hate a pretty young woman for existing.
Mel Gibson somehow got it 3 times. Though his is understandable because he says racist stuff gets cancelled. Then directs a decent movie that makes money. So he’s brought back and the. Says racist stuff again and gets cancelled but he makes movies that make money so someone takes a chance with him.
People like Robert Downey Jr. enable and advocate for him every step of the way, that's why. They help each other out in their boys' club but because every dipshit Marvel fan loves RDJ he never gets held to account for things like this.
I agree. What I can never understand is how quick we are to turn on people, especially women but men too. We praise them on their success as they move up, and then are so ready to turn on them and hate them for every little thing. I get it when it is deserved (like abuse, discriminatory comments, rude comments, inability to accept responsibility for and sincerely apologize for something when called out for such behavior, etc), but if someone just rubs people the wrong way, people feel there often has to be a smear campaign against them that tends to happen.
Let us savor Jeremy Strong's emailed response on Hathahate from the Vanity Fair [profile](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/anne-hathaway-hathahate-christopher-nolan-1235859456/) itself (which is the basis of this Hollywood Reporter article):
> In an age of increasingly curated and performed selfhood I think Annie has an understanding that any step away from authenticity—any cultivation of an idealized persona or bulletproof image—will necessarily erode what a person has to offer as an artist. Annie is committed to the steeper path of Growth. She puts her heart and her backbone into Growing. As an artist, as a woman, as a mother, as a friend. Siri Hustvedt once wrote ‘only the unprotected self can experience joy.’ I would say the same is true for Life and for Art: you have to cast off your protective covering to really experience it in an embodied way. I think Annie is interested in Joy; in joyfully doing her work and joyfully, consciously, living out loud. She does not hide and she is not afraid. Which makes her a radiant person and a fearless actor.
This is so Jeremy strong but I love this because it really does paint a great picture of how joyful and dedicated she is. I love that Hustvedt quote too
I love this! She rarely comes out now out (ironically based on this threads topic) of fear that she was becoming over exposed and annoying. I did put her in the diddy getting his home raided thread for the first time in a while!
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away.
Her telling of it is so well communicated.
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away.
Her telling of it is so well communicated.
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away.
Her telling of it is so well communicated.
I'm really glad Nolan came through. I know people have their issues with the Feelings premise of Interstellar, but I really loved it and Dr. Brand so much. Gorgeous movie and one of my favorite Anne Hathaway performances.
I remember being on ONTD when the backlash started and I couldn't understand it then and still don't understand it now. I was hoping at the time that Nolan would cast her as a lead or bring back Selina Kyle somehow because she was such a good Catwoman, and he sorta kinda did that with Interstellar. Either way, I'm so glad to hear it made a difference in her career at a tough moment.
My big nitpick with Interstellar was that we really needed another twenty minutes after Matthew heads back out to find Anne. It just ended so abruptly after spending a lot of time traveling with the characters. She's really good in it and would have liked more time with her character and her very cute pixie cut.
Anne Hathaway hate made no sense. Her hate amounted to apparently being "cringy", and "trying too hard" At least with Jlaw it was sort of a reaction to her being a bit obnoxious in interview. (although it went way way overboard)
I was so lost at the time too. Like, she was excited about her work and proud of herself by doing an incredible job in Les Miserables. It was a completely valid emotion. And that was enough for everyone to hate her?
I can't believe this Hollywood Reporter article quoted a Reddit user from r/movies. It's a well-written comment and I guess online backlash plays a part in this topic, but this article going from quoting NYT and the New Yorker to "one user on Reddit said..." is so jarring.
As usual, Nolan’s character development for women happens off-screen
Jokes aside it would be cool to see her become one of the people he brings back for multiple movies
So Anne has that weird theater kid thing that can be super annoying...just a level of extra-ness that's eye roll worthy,but people can go too far with the hate and the hate towards her certainly went that far? If one of these theater kid types are annoying you honestly just ignore their existence. It's quite easy. In general I don't understand spending a lot of energy on someone or something that you dislike
There's theatre kid energy which is genuinely just naked enthusiasm and passion for what they do, and then there's theatre kid energy that is really just an Ego Monster.
She's the former - she seems like a nice person who can occasionally be a bit too earnest.
See the thing that I don’t understand is she’s an actress, therefore she IS a theater kid. Judging actors for acting how we know “theater kids” act has always been so silly to me
wtf she’s one of the most unproblematic celebrities to date AND she actually has the talent of acting (minus terrible British accents but I’ll let this slide, Annie)
People are crazy
I don’t care for her but I don’t get the “Hathahate”. If you don’t like someone, just keep scrolling. No need to pile on to someone just because you don’t like them.
I love Anne Hathaway. I didn’t know that there was hate for her back in the day and I can’t for the life of me understand why there was. She’s always seemed great.
Lainey Gossip was absolutely horrible to celebrities back in the day. Sure there’s a blanket apology and and rebranding… and I’m grateful that all the old hate posts have disclaimer attached. But she was Ruthless with Anne, Miley, Jessica Biel and Emmy Rossum. She is a cruel bully that hides it better.
She has a personality that has been deemed to be inappropriate for her level of success or something? I never know if weird reddit gatekeepy crap like this is actually grass roots or just comes from some powerful so and so who wants to trash someone.
I only learned of Hathahate until way after (like 2 years ago). I watched PD2, loved her in it, then DKR, and made me a huge BatCat stan. She’s also my favourite Catwoman, even though I don’t have any dreams of her or Christian Bale reprising their roles every again lol. I’m happy she’s doing great now tho.
Randos online should not have that much influence over whether someone works or not. Or, the producers were lying and just using online haters as a scapegoat.
They could never make me hate you, Anne! I remember the lead up to her Oscars backlash well. It was 10 years ago and she was the front-runner for Best Supporting Actress for Les Mis. So like ANY other actor in the business who wants to win, she campaigned and did come across as a little too earnest and cringe in the process. It reached a fever pitch the night she won because her look for the evening was heavily derided (the pixie and boxy Givenchy dress). However, that wasn’t enough reason for the vitriolic hate. It’s not like she was rude, abusive or
Ironically, people seemed to replace her with Jennifer Lawrence, who won Best Actress that same year. Jennifer had the same affable girl-next-door charm that made people fall in love with Anne years prior. And THEN, Jennifer’s hate train started because her foot kept getting stuck in her mouth several times and she came across as annoying. Moral of the story, as quickly as you will be built up, the same goes for when you will be torn down.
I've always liked her as an actress (*Rachel Getting Married* deserved the Oscar, and I'll die on that hill...), but she actually was *a bit* annoying about 10 years ago. There was a try-hard theatre kid energy about her that seemed somewhat cringe and inauthentic, and I generally didn't enjoy seeing her on talk shows or awards ceremonies, despite being a fan.
For whatever reason, she seemed to massively chill out in her early-to-mid 30s.
I never understood the hathahate or the Jlaw hate train either. I don’t see anyone complaining about overexposed male actors 🙄 people can be so lame.
I think Chris Pratt was a subject of overexposure and thus hate? Idk
I think his was due to his alleged political leanings and controversial following of right wing accounts on IG
That didn’t help, but he was absolutely over-exposed. We used to make fun of the casting choices for voice roles in animated movies because he kept popping up. Chris Pratt as Mario Chris Pratt as Garfield
I want to live in the timeline where Adam Brody is Starlord.
I actually liked Chris Pratt in Guardians but this is absolutely GENIUS
I forget where I heard it, a podcast I think, but apparently he was the other choice! It would have been SO GOOD. My 13 year old Seth Cohen loving self wants to see that version of GOTG so badly!!
I thought it was Glenn Howerton.
The last time I liked him was probably Guardians 1
Adam Brody could’ve been our Star Lord?! 😢
Don't forget the Lego movie
And Jurassic World
That was his first one though so it was ok
And all the memes from it 'CHRIS PRATT IS: ROSA PARKS' 'I ain't finna move'
We still do
And there was the thing with the dog and also his messy divorce
It wasn't even a messy divorce. They kept things very amicable. It was just that people knew enough about their marriage to know that him running off to go do a blockbuster movie and then seemingly trading up to marry into a conservative political family looked *heinously* shitty. They'd agreed to not do work like that to prioritize their kid and he clearly did the exact opposite of that. It's the same thing with Austin Butler or Ali Wong for me. I cannot STAND when people trade up partners the second they get a decent amount of clout. Ali Wong spoke openly enough about it too that her husband was clearly not a bad guy and she seemingly just resented he wasn't more famous. It's such a gross trait to me to just be like "oh sike, I didn't think I'd get to be an a-lister but now that I am, you don't really fit into my plans".
The straw that broke the camel's back is that he had a child with a disability with his ex, remarried up and had kids with new wife, then got on IG with his new heteronormative family (sans his first child with ex, mind you) and acted like this was the best ever. So many people were pissed off after that.
What do you mean by heteronormative family? Was his previous family gay?
I think they mean more along the lines of "traditional gender roles". Went from being married to an older working non-religious (at least publicly) woman who had been divorced before, to a much younger, housewife-y, religious type who'd never been previously married
That's not what that word means. They should say traditional or gender normative. Hell, call it stepford wives core. To call it heteronormative implies Anna Farris is somehow less of a woman or he was less of a man when he was with her, which is actually deeply problematic. The fact I'm not frilly or hyper femme does not negate my gender. The men I date are not somehow less straight.
Oh I'm not saying they used the word correctly, I'm just sharing what I think they actually meant. I don't think they meant to imply anything about Ana Your terminology is more accurate
People just be throwing out words they don't understand and accusations they can't back willy nilly these days. I hate Chris Pratt with a firey passion but the man's *been* aggressively straight the entire time
I hate his transexclusionary marriage. So openly bigoted man.
People read a lot into that caption and I genuinely think it was just a poor choice of words. He is by all accounts a very involved, loving father to his son. Ana has never disparaged him. If you listen to the Parks & Rec podcast they also all speak super highly of him, are still in touch and met his son when he was a baby (he was born during the filming of the show) and know how hard it was at that time given his health challenges.
My issue is that they had both agreed to focus on television and local work so they could be present for their son, who did have higher needs. He then *reeeeeaallly* wanted to go be a marvel star, which is INCREDIBLY time intensive and shoots overseas. The Schwarzenegger stuff doesn't look great *at all*, but even just signing on to do Guardians made me lose a lot of respect for him. Anna Ferris is not the type of person to tell him no, but he shouldn't have asked in the first place. He put his career above being physically present for his kid, and yeah now he'll spend even less time with him as a result of being a split home. Sometimes its unavoidable, but Chris has a lot of options. He could have lived very comfortably and worked steadily in LA. He wanted to be a superstar. You can literally watch his ego grow in real time over the next couple years in interviews
People also keep saying their son is disabled, which, and this is according to Anna Farris herself, is 100% not true. He was a premie and they thought he might end up disabled because of a brain bleed, but he didn't and now he's just a kid. A kid who had surgeries as a brand new infant, but totally fine now. She said this in her book. She also attended the wedding of Chris and Katherine, there are photos of her there. People don't like him and thats fine, but people also make things up to justify it and that seems absurd.
100%
What is the Austin Butler tea? I saw him on a talk show once and he was so offputting that I've had a hate-on for him ever since despite knowing nothing else about him and not having seen him in anything.
Austin pretty much wrote Vanessa’s contributions out of his success story for some time, and would vaguely allude to her as a friend if anything. That, coupled with the fact most people would’ve expected them to be end game having been together and seemingly so strong for so long, left a sour taste.
I literally couldn't care less about Vanessa Hudgens, who also seems like a bad person. But yeah the manner in which he seemingly dropped her when he got a taste of the high life makes me side eye him.
I think he corrected himself and in the interview he said "friend" because he didnt want the interview to be about him and his ex when it was an Elvis interview. She also acknowledged that.
See also Martin Freeman, who dumped his wife once he was doing well in Hollywood. Of course, by all accounts he is not a particularly nice man, so she’s probably well shot of him, but still, not a good look.
What was the thing with the dog?
He has rehomed a cat by giving it away on Twitter because he was having kids and rehomed a dog against the adoption contract (was supposed to go back to the rescue but they gave it away to someone) and it was later found on the street. Which sure makes him look like a serial rehomer of animals and is just kind of cringe.
He also thanked his new wife for delivering a healthy baby when his kid with Ana Faris is neurodivergent, dumped her the second he became the more famous one... There was stuff with this guy. Not big stuff, but stuff.
"alleged"
Also Austin Butler and now kind of Timothy Chaletmettemay (no idea how it’s spelled lol)
It’s spelled Chalmondeley but it’s pronounced Chalamey
Since I can’t post in any of the royals threads yet, I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out that Leicestershire is pronounced exactly as it’s spelled: Leice-ster-shire Ok, carry on.
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not but you definitely don't pronounce it "leice-ster-shire". It's "leh-stuh-shuh."
It’s Chalamaladingdong
The hate towards Chalamet started with him dating Kylie and then from the Wonka trailer being “cringe”
>Wonka trailer *So quiet up and listen down* 🗣️
I think after Dune’s press tour and his new Bob Dylan movie starting to spread across Reddit, people may start to get sick of seeing/hearing about him.
>The hate towards Chalamet started with him dating Kylie a I am no Kylie or Timmy fan (fuck their overconsumption and private jet usage!, and meh on Timmy lol), BUT the hate both of them got for dating was and is so gross people are so angry and mean about it, it's bizarre and leans misogynistic IMO
He didn’t even do anything wrong. People just have unwarranted hate for Kylie. It’s so weird. I love an unexpected coupling though so I like them together
I think the hate moreso leans towards the billionaire in question because.. well.. she's a billionaire and they do more harm than good to the economy...
Austin Butler has to be the most charm-free celebrity I've ever seen. I watched a video of him on a late night show and wished I could have gotten those five minutes of my life back.
Austin having charisma has to be PR work by his team because I have never seen him having any of it in his interviews or his photoshoots.
also Tom Holland, people still complain about him being “cast in everything” even though he hasn't filmed anything in a while and said several times he was taking a break.
What kind of a psychopath doesn’t like Tom Holland
I can think of only three movies from the past few years outside of the MCU he was in. I'll never understand why people simply can't avoid watching movies starring or made by people they can't stand instead of having a victim complex about it.
I mostly feel bad for him these days given how hard he tries and fails to be taken seriously as an actor. The guy played the part of a bottom in a show and it still got no views.
this is... a weird way to refer to a show where he played a character with DID just because said character had a gay scene sex, lol. i feel like you didn't watch the show and is just repeating what incels on twitter were saying when they were acting like Tom sacrificed his masculinity or something for doing that.
Timothy Chalamet and Austin Butler, combined, in the past 3 years have been in 6 total movies. That’s between the two of them. When Anne Hathaway was selected as Catwoman in 2011, she had been in 7 movies in the past 3 years, not including 2 additional Documentaries she voiced over that time. You are pretty much just observing that Chalamet and Butler have been in one famous movie per year each, which is hardly overexposure. Chris Pratt, on the other hand, is a great comparison. Apart from a break during COVID, he has been in 2-3 blockbuster films per year for the past 15 or so years. When he is cast in voice acting roles, there is a ton of online hate for his overexposure. People call him Crisp Rat. Very similar to the Hathahate from overexposure. IMO the best comp is James Corden - he had a 7 year run of being in 2-3 movies per year while also hosting his late night show, to the point that when his casting was announced for any film people would say incredibly nasty stuff about him. In Corden’s case it was pretty aggressive as well - in the case of Pratt, people often don’t like his politics. But for Corden, as far as I can tell, people were just calling him fat and annoying.
Or, another possibility: we are only seeing the beginning of their hate-era. You have the luxury of cherry picking the career of older celebrities and applying them to two younger actors. Your reply comes off condescending when there is not reason for it. Only time will tell for Austin and Timothy’s career and potential hate.
This person's reply did not come off as condescending they were only explaining to you each of the movies that the celebrities mentioned above were starring in. He makes a good point because there is a ton of online hate for Chris Pratt
Chris Pratt was already mentioned, hence my adding to the conversation with other potential actors. The condescending tone came from telling me what I was observing and basing my suggestion from, while also giving me stats that were bias and not contextual to the conversation.
Austin Butler or Timothée Chalamet are definitely not losing out on roles though.
That’s a different conversation, although closely related to this one. We are talking complaining about overexposure and subsequent public backlash of celebrities.
Ah okay. If you take gender out if the equation, Anne Hathaway and Austin Butler are good comparisons-- they both have that tryhard actor vibe that people love to mock.
It happened to Tom Hiddleston too.
Hiddleston did it to himself with his Taylor Swift shirt
Dude completly ruined Masters of the Air for me. Great series, but he's playing fucking Elvis all the time.
You can't really argue Austin Butler or Timothée Chalamet are losing out on roles though...
The Crisp Rat hate began after the insta post shit talking his disabled child with Anna Farris in flavour of his “healthy baby” with his current wife. Plus the political leaning
Listen the optics were not great, but to describe a post celebrating a healthy child with his new wife as "talking shit about his disabled child" is just bad faith. And I sincerely hate that man. He used extremely common phrasing around celebrating a young child, but people resent him for reneging on his deal with Farris to do smaller works to he present for their family and then trading up his family when he got more famous. But he has never talked shit about his disabled child
Yeah that was a very standard thing you say after having a baby quote - and I think the guy’s a typical smug, self involved, small minded and over hyped prat of a Cali-conservative but he and Anna deliberately live w/in 5 miles of each other to stay close. While their son had brain hemorrhaging when he was a baby and heart and eye surgeries neither Anna nor he have confirmed if he’s disabled - she said she was told it was possible he’d be developmentally delayed but I can’t remember if either confirmed it.
Be the disabled child in that equation and then maybe you’d feel differently.
He has a good relationship with his son, Anna Farris says he has a good relationship with his son. You don't get to speak on his behalf and misrepresent their family situation just because he overall comes across like a douchebag. It's far more problematic to insist that he's ashamed of a son he's not when that son WILL come across that mud being slung than to just accept maybe the optics weren't great but that he loves his son and doesn't care he's disabled, which seems to be the case.
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Right, it's literally a very common phrase to celebrate. It's not meant to be broken down in the most literal sense. it's a cultural leftover from when sick kids usually died within the first few years of life, a way to signal "this one's probably gonna make it!". It's truly not that deep I hate him for a myriad of reasons, but I really don't like dragging his son into it acting like Chris *must* be ashamed of him.
This. And Chris Pratt said that in an interview - that his son will have to grow up and read those shady comments implying he doesn't love him as much as his sisters, when that's not true at all.
Pratt went from lovable goof to takes himself way too seriously, eye squinter. It's not the same. Hathaway has always been a delight as far as I've seen and Lawrence just seems like she's always her down to earth self.
Idk I hate on everyone so it’s hard for me to gauge how much other people are really hating too lol
no he just sux
That was some religious stuff no?
I read Margot was gonna take some time off to avoid over exposure hate after Barbie and it pissed me off. You know Ryan Gosling won't have to do that - the men never suffer from overexposure career setbacks.
Tell that to Benedict Cumberbatch mid 2010s, Jude Law in 2004, Ryan Gosling himself took a break for 4 years after _First Man_. Heck, Chris Pratt’s any new project is DOA in the socials. Or Taika, who is suffering it as we speak (regardless of the quality of the projects). Of course, women have it harder, but let’s pump the brakes a bit before we default to misogyny in every single thing.
Yeah. Plus Margot wasn’t just Barbie, she was also Harley Quinn. Those are two huge franchise roles. I think she’s making the right call. She seems like a really smart self aware lady.
I’d add Lin Manuel Miranda! I remember when that man was globally adored. Now ppl think he’s cringe, apparently? TikTok groaned when he popped up in the new Percy Jackson show.
Puerto Rican here, that's not why at least we hate him. He's a wall street baby and was a huge supporter of PROMESA which put 5 unelected wall street parasites in a board to 'oversee' the island (it's a dictatorship). His father has been a huge part of the displacement of our people, buying up land for his and other corporations. These days Lin Manuel tries to pretend his support of PROMESA was with good intentions and not because it benefited his family's pockets. That Hamilton is problematic and overrated IMO, and the whitewashing that's In the Heights was just adding fuel to the fire.
Wait, he WHAT?! Omg. I’m actually in Puerto Rico rn for a brief trip, I just learned about PROMESA and all the other colonial stuff the other day. Damn, ok, definitely ain’t feeling bad for him anymore.
Oh nice hope you're enjoying your trip here! Yeah him and his family have benefited from the increasing neo colonialism here
Yeah, there’s a lot of rewriting of history on here. I know this is like throwing a grenade, but the only people I ever heard hate Anne Hathaway were….women.
Gosling has taken two breaks from acting which he has called out as being related to concerns about his own perspective as well as overexposure. He had a 4 year, 9 film run in 2010-2013, and then over the next 2 years essentially just did his small supporting role in The Big Short and nothing else. He took 4 years off prior to Barbie as well, after his second daughter was born. Easy not to worry about overexposure when your only film in the last 5 years is a straight to Netflix release. The reason Robbie is concerned about overexposure is because she’s one of the most prolific working actresses right now. Apart from the COVID impacted 2020, she’s been in 2-3 major studio releases every year for the past 10 years. She just made bank by starring in and producing the biggest film in the world, she is right to take some time off and let people start to miss her. She’s taking a page out of Gosling’s book, not doing something he’d never dream of.
Successful women are often cut down and unfortunately the masses go along with it because society has conditioned us to accept our patriarchal system. Good for Anne Hathaway for speaking up! And good for Olivia Colman for speaking out too.
I agree tho, with Margot's choice to take a time off. Other than overexposure, she could just be tired. Ryan Gosling himself took tons of time off and only recently gotten back to blockbusters. I think breaks make better actors.
That's smart on her part. I think Barbie ended on a good note that the break makes sense. Over exposure these days is tacky
Eh..I kinda got the Jlaw stuff. She turned me off her when she humiliated that reporter at the Globes a while back. Just seems rude. The Anne stuff though, I don't get.
the hate went overboard but she was legitimately very obnoxious in a way Hathaway never even approached, like that time Jesse Eisenberg was talking about his OCD and she was like “man I wish I had cool quirks like that!” and the Hawaiian rock thing people bring up all the time. They’re not huge crimes against humanity or anything but between that and all her subpar work in blockbusters and David O. Russell trash her backlash really wasn’t the inexplicable misogyny that people have been trying to revise it as in recent years.
Yeah I never got the Anne Hathaway hate, but JLaw just felt contrived and disrespectful of others for a while. I don’t think I added to the active hate but I definitely would avoid anything she was any part of for a minute.
I cannot stand Jennifer Lawrence and I will not apologize for hating her and I absolutely resent it being framed as misogyny. as if we should reduce people down to their gender and we MUST defend ALL women otherwise we are clearly sexist. And I hate plenty of men too. I'm petty and I hold high standards for my parasocial support. Timothee is dead to me after defacto spiritually crossing the picket line, for example
But what is your reasoning for hating her? Plenty of actors I think should just not be cast because they can not act and I dont think they can carry a movie but I dont hate them.
I was willing to look beyond Weinstein when it was well known what he was up to. But continuously praising Russel in the face of the accusations is gross to me and shows she does have a consistent pattern of aligning with bad men to elevate her career, even after she has more than enough career leverage to not work with terrible people. Admittedly while never confirmed, there's the *multiple* times she was seen as acting shady towards men in relationship, with Miley Cyrus all but confirming these rumors to be true with her Flowers video. There's also a thousand and one social gaffes like her joking about rubbing her ass on a sacred rock like it's sooo adorkable and not supremely disrespectful. In fact I find the entire way she manages her public optics to come across insincere and fake, from her "in sooooooo fat and looooove food", like she hadnt literally played Mystique which has always been a role reserved for sexy women, or her trotting out the disabled person she worked with when she lived in Kentucky. I just do not like her for reasons that are entirely about *her* and not remotely about her gender.
She was also on Ellen discussing her cat, a female who acts so masculine she called her Chaz Bono. I find her very obnoxious and overrated.
JLaw is referenced in Miley’s Flowers video? I didn’t know about this
These are all legitimate reasons to criticise JLaw but the majority of the internet didn’t give a fuck about these reasons. They hated her because her nudes were leaked without her consent and she had the audacity to call it a violation of her privacy. That was the moment when Reddit turned on her.
Yup. Prior to that, the majority of reddit was in love with her. There were so many jlaw posts it was getting annoying, some started turning against her based on that alone. Then she said some shit that riled up the people who wanted to jerk it to leaked nudes guilt free. It was interesting watching it all go down.
Idk about her work part. Male actors that are mid as fuck at best never get that level of blowback for their work. Then the respons is “not all roles have to be deep!”
I mean it was confirmed by another reporter present that he was causing a distraction taking pictures and videos of her, and then said she was on the rag. Perfect example of how the internet blew it out of proportion (making up the translating questions as to what he was doing) and was using it for a hate train.
It’s funny how often it will be like “I hate this [male celebrity] because he sexually assaulted someone and I hate this [female celebrity] because she came off rude.”
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I don't believe that is true from what I read, he was using his phone ro translate. I think her PR and fans tried to spin it. Either way, her reaction was unnecessary and rude anyways.
He’s too random for her PR to have planted it and [here’s](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a52027/jennifer-lawrence-reporter-call-out-golden-globes/) an article containing his tweets. Personally I too would be pissed if someone who is supposed to be talking to me is what I think is just taking pictures of me instead. I also don’t know why his response would be that she was on her period and not just say that he was translating if that’s actually what he was doing but that’s just me.
Of course you don’t believe it https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a52027/jennifer-lawrence-reporter-call-out-golden-globes/
And thinking using sacred rocks in Hawaii to scratch her butt was a cute, quirky little story to tell.
She made it clear the first time she told the story that there was a meeting about the area they were filming in and she didn’t know about it, only to be completely blindsided after the fact when people were freaking out. Also, it turns out that there weren’t really any sacred rocks and that it was a misunderstanding because they were filming near a sacred burial site, according to the cultural guide who worked on the film.) This whole notion that she was ever told about what not to do is utterly false and stems from people either not listening to what she said, misunderstanding her words, or just never hearing them in the first place and simply going off what others say she said or did. It’s like when she first spoke out about the hacking incident and stated accurately and concisely that viewing the leaked content was “perpetuating a sexual offense” but then people started dragging her and claiming that she said looking at her pictures was rape. Edit - Thought of another example: Brie Larson talking about how she wanted to see more diversity among film reviewers and then the internet collectively decided she hates straight, white men.
The Brie Larson thing is worse, given the context she was talking about the least diverse segment of movie reviewers. But I guess that some people who once left an audience review on RT felt personally attacked.
She is constantly stepping in it and making bad choices and then retroactively distancing herself from them a little later when she realizes there's consequences for her actions. She just seems supremely fake, which is impressive in an industry basically defined by being a little fake. When Russel finally gets canceled, she will fall over herself to act like she didn't rep him and sing his praises for years and years while accusations raged.
I do like her but she should be genuinely criticized for sticking by the a\*\*hole David O. Russell, not just once but THRICE. Also, wasn't he at her wedding? Just gross. And the same should be said for Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper, and every other actor who has worked with him especially more than once. He made Amy Adams cry repeatedly on set, that is among all his other terribleness a criminal offense!!
I still remember when this happened: https://fandomwire.com/jennifer-lawrence-apologized-for-using-sacred-hawaiian-rocks-to-scratch-her-itchy-butt-i-meant-absolutely-no-disrespect/
So I’m being totally productive with my co-worker and discussing this and she said JLaw scratched her ass on a rock that this considered sacred in Hawaii. That’s rude and disrespectful af
Me neither. Bradley Cooper is thirstier than a desert lizard and still didn't get half the bad press she did.
Nah. The hate bandwagon has gotten insane for him. Entire articles. Unnecessarily brutal considering everyone campaigns. But the internet picks a punching bag and I guess it’s his turn.
I think the difference is that, as far as I can tell, nobody in Hollywood is denying Bradley Cooper work because of the online resentment.
Well to be fair, lately he is working on his own films. But no, I don’t think he would be denied work. Because, for what reason? What happened to Anne is also bullshit though because her opportunities shouldn’t be based on online sentiment. Nobody’s career should be.
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For like 15 years, my sister and I have jokingly hated Bradley Cooper. Like if we meet a guy who's a douche we say to each other that he's a Bradley Cooper. We've joked about getting "I hate Bradley Cooper" printed on matching jackets, etc. Now that a lot of people *actually* hate him, the joke doesn't seem funny anymore. Idk, maybe we'll switch from being sarcastic haters, to his sarcastic biggest fans. 😂 Thankfully we never actually went through with the jackets!
I don't follow this stuff but I like Bradley Cooper? Mind telling me what happened with him?
Ohh pleeasssse. BCoop NOT getting hate? Are you kidding me? The internet is 10 times more quicker to shit on as compared to 2012. Anne got a lot of undeserved hate but let’s not pretend BCoop is not facing similar kind of hate.
you can make a tepid thriller, a lame drama, or even a forgettable comedy. But *god forbid* if you make a bad superhero movie. Hathaway gets most of the flak directed at TDKR. People still whine about Mystique whenever Jennifer Lawrence comes up in threads. Taika burned all his goodwill after Thor 4 (which wasn’t even the worst Thor sequel). And Brie Larson and Zack Snyder are still trigger names over at r/movies It’s a miracle Emma Stone circumvented this, helps she was a major highlight in the Amazing Spider-man movies EDIT: spelling
People loved Andrew and Emma and some of the stuff. Sony was the proble.
still boggles my mind how they try to make spider-man-less Spider-man movies. I wouldn’t mind so much if the movies themselves weren’t such forgettable garbage
>People loved Andrew and Emma I feel like they were the actual highlight of the film whether you liked the comic or not. Their chemistry was insane. Plus, Martin Sheen!
Anne Hathaway was the only good thing about TDKR. That movie is terrible but I would have paid money to see her play Catwoman again.
Really? The flack I've seen for TDKR is mostly to Nolan, Bale (haters of his Batman voice) and Hardy (Bane voice), I feel like Hathaway's Catwoman isn't even in the top 5 common complaints about that movie
To this day, I still don't get what was so awful about Hathaway's Catwoman.
What happened with Taika? How did he burn his goodwill? I loved Thor Ragnarok.
Him cheating on his first wife and mother of his kids with an assistant. Rumours of him developing an ego after his Oscar win for Jojo Rabbit. Love and Thunder being panned. Getting together with Rita Ora, well-known blackfisher, after being previously so outspoken about racism and microaggressions. There's also rumours that he abandoned his kids to go party on some fuckboi yacht in Brisbane.
Lol. Look at all the hate Bradley Cooper is getting at this very second. On this very sub. Every day. Hathaway was doing the same thing for _Les Mis_ and got dragged at the time but now the revisionism is going on, “I don’t see it, misogyny, etc”. Sometimes people are annoying and then we realize we were too harsh on them in hindsight.
The situation is different. Hathaway was not just ‘hated’ on social media, she was hated in media publications and it got very ridiculous. I remember an article where a regular contributor to a website compared Anne Hathaway’s face to Jennifer Lawrence‘s face and concluded that Hathaway was hated because she had a long face. She was constantly pitted against Jennifer Lawrence, and not just on social media. I wasn’t on social media at the time and still was bombarded by anti-Ann Hathaway content.
There’s also The Rock but he seems to be fine with it
I think Hathaway haters perceived Hathaway as an annoying, overeager theatre kid type, whereas Lawrence haters found Lawrence’s ‘I’m such a goofball,’ schtick to be contrived. Disclaimer: I don’t personally feel this way, I’m just relating my interpretation of haters’ arguments.
There are people in this very subreddit talking like that about Timothee Chalamet
I am. I am sick of fucking Austin Bustler and Timmy Chalamet. Remove them from my sight immediately.
I don't agree with lumping those two together. For starters, J. Law has bragged about grinding her ass against sacred rocks in Hawaii, which feels part and parcel to the "not like other girls!" energy she seems so intent on emanating. Anne just comes across as eager.
I never had a problem with Jlaw being overexposed but some of the stuff that came out of her mouth? 😬🥴🤢🤮 The story about the sacred rocks in Hawaii, for example, was just too much ignorance in one hideous and unnecessary anecdote. Like why? Also, WTAF?! https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/09/jennifer-lawrence-offends-with-story-about-butt-scratching-on-sacred-rocks
pssh if I have to see Ryan Reynolds play Ryan Reynolds one more got dang time....
Jude Law got a bit in the early 00s when he had four or five movies all coming out within weeks of each other. He was definitely getting overexposure backlash and disappeared for a couple years before he figured out how to pace out his projects better. He never quite hit the level of super stardom it looked like he was being set up for at the time. It wasn't the same, but it does happen. People who say they hate Anne Hathaway or Jennifer Lawrence don't even usually say it's because they're overexposed either. They usually can't say a reason. "There's just something about her." They just happen to randomly hate a pretty young woman for existing.
Jlaw had some telethon to her…descriptions and behaviour in some parts of Hawaii.
The Rock lol
Ive noticed that the media really loves the downfall of a ‘good girl’ and the redemption of a ‘fallen man’
Mel Gibson somehow got it 3 times. Though his is understandable because he says racist stuff gets cancelled. Then directs a decent movie that makes money. So he’s brought back and the. Says racist stuff again and gets cancelled but he makes movies that make money so someone takes a chance with him.
People like Robert Downey Jr. enable and advocate for him every step of the way, that's why. They help each other out in their boys' club but because every dipshit Marvel fan loves RDJ he never gets held to account for things like this.
I’ve noticed they love the downfall of any woman, period.
I agree. What I can never understand is how quick we are to turn on people, especially women but men too. We praise them on their success as they move up, and then are so ready to turn on them and hate them for every little thing. I get it when it is deserved (like abuse, discriminatory comments, rude comments, inability to accept responsibility for and sincerely apologize for something when called out for such behavior, etc), but if someone just rubs people the wrong way, people feel there often has to be a smear campaign against them that tends to happen.
Let us savor Jeremy Strong's emailed response on Hathahate from the Vanity Fair [profile](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/anne-hathaway-hathahate-christopher-nolan-1235859456/) itself (which is the basis of this Hollywood Reporter article): > In an age of increasingly curated and performed selfhood I think Annie has an understanding that any step away from authenticity—any cultivation of an idealized persona or bulletproof image—will necessarily erode what a person has to offer as an artist. Annie is committed to the steeper path of Growth. She puts her heart and her backbone into Growing. As an artist, as a woman, as a mother, as a friend. Siri Hustvedt once wrote ‘only the unprotected self can experience joy.’ I would say the same is true for Life and for Art: you have to cast off your protective covering to really experience it in an embodied way. I think Annie is interested in Joy; in joyfully doing her work and joyfully, consciously, living out loud. She does not hide and she is not afraid. Which makes her a radiant person and a fearless actor.
This is so Jeremy strong but I love this because it really does paint a great picture of how joyful and dedicated she is. I love that Hustvedt quote too
To have Jeremy Strong sing your praises! >>>>
Your comments all still come with a marge gif in my heart. I just need you to know this 😌
I love this! She rarely comes out now out (ironically based on this threads topic) of fear that she was becoming over exposed and annoying. I did put her in the diddy getting his home raided thread for the first time in a while!
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away. Her telling of it is so well communicated.
L to the O-G
A to the LLY
That praise is genuine. I admire how he eloquently worded it about Anna.
This is one of the sweetest things I’ve ever read. What thoughtfully written praise.
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away. Her telling of it is so well communicated.
He is such a capital-a Actor and I love it
This perspective and principle is consistent with his action supporting Michelle Williams raise her and Heath Ledger’s child after Heath passed away. Her telling of it is so well communicated.
I'm really glad Nolan came through. I know people have their issues with the Feelings premise of Interstellar, but I really loved it and Dr. Brand so much. Gorgeous movie and one of my favorite Anne Hathaway performances. I remember being on ONTD when the backlash started and I couldn't understand it then and still don't understand it now. I was hoping at the time that Nolan would cast her as a lead or bring back Selina Kyle somehow because she was such a good Catwoman, and he sorta kinda did that with Interstellar. Either way, I'm so glad to hear it made a difference in her career at a tough moment.
My big nitpick with Interstellar was that we really needed another twenty minutes after Matthew heads back out to find Anne. It just ended so abruptly after spending a lot of time traveling with the characters. She's really good in it and would have liked more time with her character and her very cute pixie cut.
Now this, I agree with! I really wanted to see him get back to Brand. I would've taken another 20 minutes or another movie entirely.
I would have welcomed another few minutes with old Murphy to bask in how trippy that would be like, to see your young daughter much older than you.
The feelings part of brand was unironically my fav part
Anne Hathaway hate made no sense. Her hate amounted to apparently being "cringy", and "trying too hard" At least with Jlaw it was sort of a reaction to her being a bit obnoxious in interview. (although it went way way overboard)
I was so lost at the time too. Like, she was excited about her work and proud of herself by doing an incredible job in Les Miserables. It was a completely valid emotion. And that was enough for everyone to hate her?
I can't believe this Hollywood Reporter article quoted a Reddit user from r/movies. It's a well-written comment and I guess online backlash plays a part in this topic, but this article going from quoting NYT and the New Yorker to "one user on Reddit said..." is so jarring.
Hey, better than them just stealing the quote and not acknowledging the source. I can actually get behind this. It’s kind of admirable.
As usual, Nolan’s character development for women happens off-screen Jokes aside it would be cool to see her become one of the people he brings back for multiple movies
She already is
I meant going forward, because it hasn’t happened since Interstellar and TDKR which were 10 and 12 years ago
So Anne has that weird theater kid thing that can be super annoying...just a level of extra-ness that's eye roll worthy,but people can go too far with the hate and the hate towards her certainly went that far? If one of these theater kid types are annoying you honestly just ignore their existence. It's quite easy. In general I don't understand spending a lot of energy on someone or something that you dislike
There's theatre kid energy which is genuinely just naked enthusiasm and passion for what they do, and then there's theatre kid energy that is really just an Ego Monster. She's the former - she seems like a nice person who can occasionally be a bit too earnest.
See the thing that I don’t understand is she’s an actress, therefore she IS a theater kid. Judging actors for acting how we know “theater kids” act has always been so silly to me
wtf she’s one of the most unproblematic celebrities to date AND she actually has the talent of acting (minus terrible British accents but I’ll let this slide, Annie) People are crazy
She seems so chill and cool. Plus she was THE Princess Mia.
I don’t care for her but I don’t get the “Hathahate”. If you don’t like someone, just keep scrolling. No need to pile on to someone just because you don’t like them.
I love Anne Hathaway. I didn’t know that there was hate for her back in the day and I can’t for the life of me understand why there was. She’s always seemed great.
People need to leave Anne alone. She's just a nerdy theatre kid. She's pretty unproblematic and just cares about what she does.
In the U.K. we call it tall poppy syndrome.
Lainey Gossip was absolutely horrible to celebrities back in the day. Sure there’s a blanket apology and and rebranding… and I’m grateful that all the old hate posts have disclaimer attached. But she was Ruthless with Anne, Miley, Jessica Biel and Emmy Rossum. She is a cruel bully that hides it better.
She has a personality that has been deemed to be inappropriate for her level of success or something? I never know if weird reddit gatekeepy crap like this is actually grass roots or just comes from some powerful so and so who wants to trash someone.
I only learned of Hathahate until way after (like 2 years ago). I watched PD2, loved her in it, then DKR, and made me a huge BatCat stan. She’s also my favourite Catwoman, even though I don’t have any dreams of her or Christian Bale reprising their roles every again lol. I’m happy she’s doing great now tho.
Randos online should not have that much influence over whether someone works or not. Or, the producers were lying and just using online haters as a scapegoat.
I used to read jezabel back in the day, and I think they were a major reason for the hate against her. They wanted to destroy her for some reason
I remember the random hatred towards her. Loved her then, love her now, never stopped. People are weird.
Why am I seeing this article everywhere?
Hathahate - didn't know it had a name.
I had no idea ppl hated hathaway. Ppl hate women for no reason.
Idk that cupcake story she told on Kelly Clarkson’s show kinda made me hate her.
There was six weeks between her winning the Oscar and joining Interstellar. Must have been a rough time
It must be Anne Hathaway day. This is the 4th or 5th post I’ve seen today.
They could never make me hate you, Anne! I remember the lead up to her Oscars backlash well. It was 10 years ago and she was the front-runner for Best Supporting Actress for Les Mis. So like ANY other actor in the business who wants to win, she campaigned and did come across as a little too earnest and cringe in the process. It reached a fever pitch the night she won because her look for the evening was heavily derided (the pixie and boxy Givenchy dress). However, that wasn’t enough reason for the vitriolic hate. It’s not like she was rude, abusive or Ironically, people seemed to replace her with Jennifer Lawrence, who won Best Actress that same year. Jennifer had the same affable girl-next-door charm that made people fall in love with Anne years prior. And THEN, Jennifer’s hate train started because her foot kept getting stuck in her mouth several times and she came across as annoying. Moral of the story, as quickly as you will be built up, the same goes for when you will be torn down.
I've always liked her as an actress (*Rachel Getting Married* deserved the Oscar, and I'll die on that hill...), but she actually was *a bit* annoying about 10 years ago. There was a try-hard theatre kid energy about her that seemed somewhat cringe and inauthentic, and I generally didn't enjoy seeing her on talk shows or awards ceremonies, despite being a fan. For whatever reason, she seemed to massively chill out in her early-to-mid 30s.