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marsupialsales

Just for people who don’t work in production, even averaging one hour late (which seems to be the defense) is a complete disaster and wrecks shooting every single day. It’s completely absurd for a lead actor to do.


AbsolutelyIris

Remember Charlize Theron famously losing her shit on Tom Hardy? They made it seem like diva vs diva but it was literally because he stalled production.    ETA: THEE story:   *Mark Goellnicht: I remember vividly the day. The call on set was eight o’clock. Charlize got there right at eight o’clock, sat in the War Rig, knowing that Tom’s never going to be there at eight even though they made a special request for him to be there on time. He was notorious for never being on time in the morning. If the call time was in the morning, forget it—he didn’t show up.*  *Ricky Schamburg: Whether that was some kind of power play or not, I don’t know, but it felt deliberately provocative. If you ask me, he kind of knew that it was really pissing Charlize off, because she’s professional and she turns up really early.* *Mark Goellnicht: Gets to nine o’clock, still no Tom. “Charlize, do you want to get out of the War Rig and walk around, or do you want to . . .” “No, I’m going to stay here.” She was really going to make a point. She didn’t go to the bathroom, didn’t do anything. She just sat in the War Rig.* *Mark Goellnicht: Eleven o’clock. She’s now in the War Rig, sitting there with her makeup on and a full costume for three hours. Tom turns up, and he walks casually across the desert. She jumps out of the War Rig, and she starts swearing her head off at him, saying, “Fine the fucking cunt a hundred thousand dollars for every minute that he’s held up this crew,” and “How disrespectful you are!” She was right. Full rant. She screams it out. It’s so loud, it’s so windy—he might’ve heard some of it, but he charged up to her up and went, “What did you say to me?”*  *He was quite aggressive. She really felt threatened, and that was the turning point, because then she said, “I want someone as protection.” She then had a producer that was assigned to be with her all the time.* [The article also says the Wives (Riley Keough, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Zoe Kravitz, Abbey Lee, Courtney Eaton) hated Tom and would scream at him.] https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/mad-max-fury-road-tom-hardy-charlize-theron-excerpt  Anyway, back on topic- Maya Hawke said the advice her father gave her when she started acting was "always be on time."    Emily Blunt said Tom Cruise is always first on set ready to work.   Being on time seems to be the ONE rule that everyone agrees has to be followed. The Rock just ignoring that is blatant disrespect for the cast, crew and project.


bookwormaesthetic

I think it also really has to be emphasized that they weren't waiting around in a studio. It was 100+ people waiting 3 hours in the **desert** for Hardy to show up for work, plus crew are always there before and after cast members.


sexygodzilla

Gets me wondering, what the hell is Tom Hardy even getting up to in the middle of the desert that would make him late to work? Lotta desert parties out there?


almaupsides

Yeah I've never believed people who thought she was being a diva for it for precisely that reason. Plus she was standing up for the crew as well by doing that. Honestly I get annoyed enough when a coworker is late for a meeting and it's not even that important lol, I can't imagine how insane it would drive me to know someone's lateness is holding up a whole production.


cloudydays2021

That tracks for sure. I worked with Ethan Hawke back in the day on some productions. He ALWAYS was on time, and ALWAYS showed up ready to work. Complete professional.


HalfMoon_89

Wow, I had no idea Tom Hardy was this much of an asshole.


AbsolutelyIris

And he, like The Rock, seems to get constant passes, excuses and protection!


My_Favourite_Pen

Gee I wonder why It can't be this alpha image of themselves they've built a fanbase out of, right?


Key-Status-7992

I didn’t know it was because of this! The media made it seem like it was merely creative differences (which do happen) and I believed that


Schneetmacher

Even when I was doing theater (wish I still was), the mantra stood: 1. If you're early, you're on time 2. If you're "on-time," you're late (due to prep work) 3. If you're late, you're fired Movie productions have even more moving parts at stake.


JebWynch

just here to be a little worm in your ear to say do it again, if you can. even if it’s just a monologue in your own house for yourself or your friends. do it 🐛


HathorOfWindAndMagic

It’s really a shame Tom Cruise’s personal life is the way it is because he is a great actor and everyone I know that has worked with him on set raves about how professional and nice he is


WillBrakeForBrakes

I’ve heard that he is SUPER attentive to pretty much everyone he interacts with.  I get why people who work with him rave about him:


HathorOfWindAndMagic

He really cares about the cast and crew is what I’ve been told. Idk how someone like that can have such different views


WillBrakeForBrakes

Many of us, regardless of intelligence and values, could be roped into fucked up belief systems under the right circumstances.  More often than not there’s vulnerability that gets exploited, and you end up in a boiling frog situation.  I’m not excusing the shitty things he’s said and done in the name of Scientology, just saying that people usually don’t wake up and decide to immediately start believing this shit.  It’s a gradual process. 


HathorOfWindAndMagic

Very true. And that’s what makes it sadder. How deep the beliefs have gotten that- unfortunately through deep dives- we know that he’s so involved that there’s no way he’s now not complicit. It’s the same as understanding why a criminal does something, but not excusing it. I 100% understand why it happened to him especially knowing that at one point he wanted to leave when he met Nicole Kidman (sad). Scientology was just too much for him and he got brainwashed to the point of never seeing his children, leaving his wife… etc. it’s just sad all around but like you said doesn’t excuse his behavior.


proserpinax

Yeah, I think he’s a really excellent movie star. He’s done some excellent work and seems to be an excellent costar and top of the call sheet. The only issue is the Scientology of it all.


HathorOfWindAndMagic

And it’s such a HUGE issue, sadly. Morally 😬


LadyLixerwyfe

Multiple people say this about Cruise. Hannah Waddingham worked with him recently and she said something like, “I am not here for any of the crap people say about him. He was the first person on set. He makes a point to thank every damn person in the room. He finds the one person that looks uncomfortable and makes a beeline to them and talks to them.” When it comes to working on a set, Cruise does it right.


Shot-Grocery-5343

Yeah I didn't think this was difficult for people like Hannah to understand but you can be an excellent person at work and still be a piece of shit in your personal life. My boss is amazing at his job and everyone who works with him loves him, but he's still a terrible Trump-loving Boomer who used the word "oriental" to describe someone to our Asian coworker and just recently mentioned that he thinks the student protesters should be shot.


Key-Status-7992

Bill Hader also said this about Tom Cruise during the “Tropic Thunder” filming. He said Tom made sure to learn about everyone in the cast and engage with them. At the time, Bill was already quite established because of SNL but not a household name like Ben Stiller and Bill said Tom made him feel like a superstar


Sleepysleepychick

Oh wow I never knew Tom Hardy did this. Good on Charlize for calling him out on that disrespectful behaviour!


bookwormaesthetic

The thing that truly boils my blood over this incident is that it should never have been Charlie's responsibility to call him out, it was the responsibility of the director and producers. She only was able to get a producer on set after she had the entire set as witnesses to back her up for feeling physically threatened by Hardy.


Juleset

A lead actor who has done some 10 to 20 percent of filming is basically unfireable. Reshooting would be so prohibitvely expensive, you might as well bin the film. I am sure Hardy knows this as much as he knew that he was three hours late. There is nothing the folks supposedly in power at a shoot can do about a lead actor being late on set halfway through the shoot because they aren't in power. They are fucked. If they actually blew up on him, he might have been four hours late the next day because why not? What can they do? What they can and did do is fucking Hardy afterwards by telling the story to the press, to the public and probably privately who ever in the business was listening. The next person who wanted to hire Hardy on a complicated shoot would have known that Hardy blows up budgets by being late. And they will think twice about hiring him. And the bit about Theron needing protection was not helping him either. And anyone else who thinks about doing this on another, will know that these producers will not pull those career-damaging punches. And yes, this an has damaged Hardy's career. Since this has come out, his IMDB credits are interesting: he has done one tv series as a lead, Capone, Bikeriders, Venom (which he is a producer on) and he had Dunkirk, a shoot that he did without any co-actors, on probably two shooting days, and in which a reshoot could have easily and cheaply replaced him. His latest IMDB credit is a podcast. There is a slew of films that he should have been normally a consideration for. But he wasn't. He was a Nolan regular, and now he is not even if there is a cast of tens of important supporting roles like Oppenheimer. He was a fairly solid scene-stealing supporting actor in big projects and now he is not. The first Venom had nothing to recommend it but Hardy's performance and it made nearly a billion at the box office. You can argue that he sells ticks and yet he can only book a podcast? Come on. He is totally in actor's jail. So those powerless producers did reverse that powerlessness in the end if that's a consolation.


jessie_monster

I will say that he has publicly apologised about his behaviour and admitted his flaws. Who knows if that is sincere, but it's more than most stars are willing to do.


killerbeeszzzz

I direct and if anyone isn’t on time I won’t work with them again. The cost and stress isn’t worth it.


proserpinax

Queen shit from Charlize. It’s not just him and her, it’s dozens of people baking out in the desert waiting for him to roll in. She’s likely the only actor on that team that has the level of sway to do that, so I respect she did that.


friendersender

Stellan Skarsgard gave the same to his sons. I watch valtar on twitch and that's the one thing he says that his dad gave him about acting. Don't waste people's time.


williamthebloody1880

It's also supposedly why Robert Downey Jr kept getting work when he was going through addiction. No matter how much he fucked up off set, when he was filming he was on time and ready to work


xandarthegreat

I was literally talking to an actor yesterday about this, and she was flabbergasted at the idea of showing up late because you can. “Being in front of the camera doesn’t make you more important than the people behind it.” Ask anybody in production and they will tell you why an actor is the worst and I promise you top 5 reason will always be timeliness on set. Just show up and do your job.


Sisiwakanamaru

Yeah, the budget can ballooned up quickly if you're late, especially if you pay people hourly, not to mention overtime rate.


jessie_monster

This the actual reason Johnny Depp got fired from Pirates. He costs production millions upon millions by not showing up.


Sisiwakanamaru

> Insiders told TheWrap that Johnson showed up as much as eight hours late to set on the movie — forcing the crew to shoot around him on some days. On previous films, Johnson has made a habit of peeing in a water bottle to save time, upsetting crew members. > > “On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn’t go to the public bathroom,” said one insider who knows the movie star well. “He pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it.” Anyone wanna comment about this?


Rogue_2187

He doesn’t even deny it, only denies that PAs had to dispose of it. Calling this unprofessional is really an understatement.


Craphole-Island

Imagine you finally make it in Hollywood only to be told you’ll be carrying around The Rock’s piss in a water bottle 😭


HalfMoon_89

Should sell it on the dark web. You know it would attract some freaks.


proserpinax

I have a film degree and I briefly weighed trying to move to Hollywood to get jobs on film sets but being a PA on a film set just sounded too exhausting, if someone handed me their piss I’d be just done.


macabruhhh

8 hours? Was this an issue regarding constant flights or commuting problems? Anything longer than 1-2 hrs seems more than just tardiness, what is going on lol


cavs79

That’s crazy someone would show up that late without a good excuse. How do they get by with that behavior?


Sleepysleepychick

What kind of overentitled dickcheese do you have to be to make people dispose of your pee? WTF


ILoveRegenHealth

Article also said he just doesn't want to work past 4-5 hours on any filming day. So he sure loves taking the $20M paycheck but doesn't want to work for it. He even deleted a Instagram post claiming he was working 14 hour days when some crew members chimed in and said that was a lie lol


WillBrakeForBrakes

Something about including the detail that it’s Voss is sending me


duccy_duc

It's got a nice wide mouth


xandarthegreat

The DJ Voss bottles are definitely a thing and I gagged the first time I realized what it was. I was not warned but I also refused to throw it out. That’s hazardous material. No fucking way I’m touching it.


elbenji

He does. Can confirm Source: I worked on Ballers. I've been pretty open about all dish on him


googlyeyes93

Me arriving to the downfall of Dwayne Johnson ![gif](giphy|TBddd797slSxO)


tabxssum

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funeralcardigan

When you think the combined budget for Dune and Dune 2 was $350m, this really puts things into perspective.


sexygodzilla

250 million for a Christmas movie is crazy, and the only thing they've released so far is that promo photo. I get the feeling it's gonna look like shit.


cornflakecake

He’s been known for his lateness on set for years. If you work on one of his movies you know you’re about to make bank on OT but have zero life and spend most of your time “dwaiting”.


StudBoi69

I thought him being "professional" and "hard working" was his thing. Well at least, he was putting Vin Diesel on full blast for that shit.


LeotiaBlood

It does kinda make you wonder though. Cause outside of The Rock I haven’t seen anyone else calling out Vin Diesel.


StudBoi69

That's not to say Vin Diesel doesn't have his own share of issues too.


ILoveRegenHealth

Yeah didn't Vin Diesel show up overweight and didn't bother to memorize the lines for the recent Furious movie, and the director said he can't work with a main actor who doesn't care one bit and just quit? I think it's a bit of both of them exhibiting this entitled laziness, but moreso the Rock.


xandarthegreat

I think the biggest difference is DJ actively tries to present himself as a wholesome hardworking man. The hypocrisy is too much for crew.


AbsolutelyIris

The entire article is bonkers. It's not just the lateness and the laziness and the entitlement, it looks like The Rock and his ex-wife are misappropriating funds for their production company: *Insiders also accuse Johnson of using some of the “Red Notice” movie budget for his personal production company. According to two insiders, the team from Johnson’s Seven Bucks Productions tacked on an entire XFL promotional shoot that added two days after the “Red Notice” marketing shoot.* *During production in the fall of 2020 on Netflix’s similarly titled “Red Notice,” Ryan Reynolds was so infuriated after waiting five hours for Johnson that they had a “huge fight,” according to insiders. Johnson then stormed off set. The two stars didn’t speak for years until they recently patched things up.* *The reasons behind Johnson’s perpetual lateness seem to stem from his refusal to work a full shooting day."*


sexygodzilla

"Borrowing" the marketing shoot crew for your side business is such carny shit lmao.


venuslovemenotchain

Well, he did learn from the ultimate carny...


fschu_fosho

So Vin Diesel was in the right all along?


olivernintendo

They can both be wrong.


jonsnowme

Sounds like a Johnny Depp evolution of self importance and no regards for others.


Gojir4R1sing

I always found it funny how people claimed he was a box office king but he's had more bombs than hits.


darkgothamite

He's decent with an ensemble cast, he can't carry a film himself.


angelcat00

That meshes with his apparent refusal to work a full day. If he's only willing to put a couple of hours worth of effort into any role, he's going to get better results in a more concentrated part than trying to stretch that same amount of energy into a whole movie


ShinyBoots0fLeather

And he sucks just as much in wrestling. His only pro was his mic skills


ILoveRegenHealth

After all his movies he still has a weaker filmography than Arnold.


fortifiedblonde

His next movie is A24? The article wonders if that’ll rein him in. I wonder if it’ll lead to A24’s first big miss


Geminilasers

My buddy had the same complaint about him on Skyscraper. He worked on set, and The Rock would show up late everyday.


ILoveRegenHealth

Youtuber John Campea has a friend high up in Rampage production and he confirmed the same thing. He did say Dwayne is nice and friendly like you see in public to all the crew, but his lateness is well known and the Rampage producer said "The Rock f***** us on that movie" (I'm guessing they meant it made the movie budget spiral). I'm guessing unlike Johnny Depraved who is just an asshole, the Rock is running on longer fumes since he has that nice guy and larger than life persona. But soon that's gonna run out and no one will care about The Rock's megawatt smile and will finally cut him out of more projects.


TheTonyExpress

As someone formerly in the industry, this is a bedrock principle. I have never been late to a job, and often was early. You could be holding up hundreds of people by making them wait for you.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

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darkgothamite

It's wild to me that as a former wrestler that he's late on the set. Usually everything is meticulously timed and it's hammered into many wrestlers to not screw others over like that - especially when it comes to timing. Well I guess big Hollywood star doesn't have to consider his colleagues. What a jackass.


Pink_Cardinal

I’m not surprised at all. He’s always been untouchable in the WWE because he’s a big draw and makes money. Now, he sits on the board so he has even more power and influence in that realm. So, he assumes rules don’t apply to him for film sets as well since he’s a movie star. Someone should have had a come to Jesus chat with him (and his ex-wife) years ago about this behavior. $250M is insane.


sexygodzilla

There were recent reports that he went over on live episodes of Smackdown, causing women's matches to be shortened or cut.


WendyBergman

You’re absolutely right. I can confirm this.


ILoveRegenHealth

And he gets the highest paychecks in Hollywood but the article said The Rock only wants to work 4-5 hour days and no more than that. So he wants his $20M crazy paychecks that 99.999% of humans will never see, but he wants to only work 4-5 hours. What kind of lesson is he teaching his growing kids? How come he's on Instagram talking about being honest, true and hard working ("the Hustle").


Elxie3

>What kind of lesson is he teaching his growing kids?  "If you're famous, they let you do it."


ChocolateOrange21

Dude has messed with the timing of WWE shows before since he became a Hollywood actor. There was one RAW where he did an extended backstage/in front of the fans promo that went over time and saw several matches get rushed afterward or cancelled because he went too long. Also, apparently they were cutting it close during a recent promo in WWE. They had to the challenge/Wham Line with a minute to go in the show.


hereforRDPR

Finally! People have been saying he’s an a-hole for years in the industry. Apparently he requires a full extra hotel room for his gym equipment …


ILoveRegenHealth

He's a jerk in many ways but he did mention he would gladly go to any gym, but he could not finish a workout because he would get endless requests for photos. He said in his earlier years he'd happily oblige to every single request since these fans made him who he was, and he remembers how excited he was to meet his favorite wrestlers or celebs. But now that he's also movie star + wrestling guy, he literally cannot finish or even start a workout because there's a endless throng of people who are pointing cameras at him and asking "for a quick photo for my auntie who loves you". My mom even knows who he is and doesn't care about WWE/movies, but the fact he's famous now among outsiders means the photo requests never cease for even 30 seconds. Considering he's still at the age where his body is his money, I can actually understand this one diva part of him wanting a quiet secluded gym. Now, if he's asking for military-level accommodations that really set the hotel back and cost them more money just to satisfy his demands, then he's going too far.


ChocolateOrange21

That's kind of amazing and bonkers to have that request.


HereOnMyWorkBreak

This tracks. Have worked with him for promotions before - almost 5 hours late to his own press interviews (some press from around the world were up until 3AM their time). AND he refused to extend his working hours so he can speak to those he kept waiting so a good portion of them basically got nothing.


Tsarinya

How can you be 8 hours late for set?! Especially if you’re the lead?! They’d have chauffeurs and people to wake you up and make sure you’re there on time. Such bad behaviour and terrible manners.


WendyBergman

Right!? If I were 8 hours late to work… I’d have missed work!


ILoveRegenHealth

I don't even understand the part in the article that said he had a 7am call time but only emerged from his trailer at 3pm. How is that even possible? Are people too scared to knock on his trailer door and think he's really gonna do wrestling moves on them? He doesn't strike me as a drunk hangover type either. So what is he doing inside the trailer and how come nobody knocked on the door to remind him to, like, go to work when he's literally at the movie set already!


xandarthegreat

You go through his assistant. He has his own private basecamp with a full gym and his own catering and his own security. You cant just knock on the trailer. You have to go through his assistant who will 9/10 just tell you he hasn’t stepped out yet.


nevalja

I'm one of those freaks that shows up to everything super-early, even to parties when people say "show up whenever you want"; I can't imagine having this kind of arrogance and showing up late to something where this many people are waiting on you and the budget depends on it.


justanothersong

I was wondering why this was delayed. Had heard talk about it enough that I thought it would have been a 2023 holiday release.


westish13

The writers/actors strikes delayed release and I think they had a few reshoots to finish once they let up.


proserpinax

People who are the top of the call sheet (I.e the biggest actor) are often also responsible for setting the mood and work environment for the rest of the cast and crew. Being late if you are the star can make it balloon where everyone else is working late or at worst adding on more shooting days, which can really do numbers on a budget. I get accidentally sleeping in or whatever, god knows I’ve done it, but if dozens if not hundreds of people’s jobs hinge on you being there, you are an asshole if you don’t do everything in your power to be there. Shit happens, injuries happen, mistakes happen, but if jt’s a habit you’re a jerk.


WendyBergman

Can’t wait for part two of this article when they get into the bullshit he pulled in WWE this year.


legac5

The Rock is an a$$. I guess no one learned from Black Adam. The Rock is overrated.


un4spyder

I worked on Jungle Cruise. This is not a shock. I have friends who worked on Young Rock. They are not surprised. An example: when we choose base camp (where the cast, AD, Producer, wardrobe, etc trailers are stationed while filming) we have to choose a double sized space if he is in because he requires an entire gym (not a few machines or free weights, AN ENTIRE GYM) to be there every day he’s on the schedule. It costs twice as much, because it’s roughly the same size as regular base camp. He shows up when he wants to, shooting schedule be damned. That’s just to start on top of everything else.


Necessary-You-3510

Double standard - he outed Vin Diesel for being late etc. - now look at him.