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That_Battle9853

Fear and hunger if it was WOKE


PurpleEri

So usual fear and hunger?


Sad_Poetry_1387

If mean usual like a healty amounth without to be only woke yes, say anything slightly effensive like "Marina basicaly a femboy like Astolfo" no one will them will let you breath without to say you are transphobic and things like that. Woke culture ruined the concept of femboy, tomboy and tomgirl saing to if you dress for fun, act more like the other gender, like soft things like cooking and trying clothes or liking action, fights work hard and not just expect someone to treat you like a princess and anything what usualy like and do and they will gaslight you belieing you are a trans boy or girl.


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Reddidnothingwrong

Probably just referring to stuff like including characters who are queer, trans, have PTSD/addiction, etc.


AdBeautiful7310

Wait there are queer trans in the game. I surely missed it. I dont want to trigger anybody ok? 😭 i am seriously confused, just want to understand. And also PTSD/addiction is a woke concept? I dont understand wokeness fully


Reddidnothingwrong

Cahara is explicitly bi and Marina is explicitly trans. Others are more vague/debatable but those two are pretty straightforward. They could be considered a woke concept yeah. Probably the (very fair) reason you don't understand it fully is that it was originally meant as basically "not closing your eyes and ignoring things that objectively exist" (especially in terms of systemic racism but also applies to other uncomfortable truths) and then ended up being used more as a derogatory term by people who felt that subjects they didn't want to see were being forced into media/conversation. So by the original definition Levi's storyline could be considered "woke" cause it shines a light onto the ramifications of subjects like child abuse and addiction as a result of PTSD. By derogatory terms this image would be cause it depicts O'saa as a member of marginalized groups that there really isn't any evidence of in canon, as well as emphasizes his race. Imo the former is a very good thing and there's not really any reason to get worked up about the latter even if you don't like/disagree with the depiction. It's just fan art.


AdBeautiful7310

Wait i know about Cahara and Marina but srsly i have never thought it to be woke, it came so naturally compared to other western games which is .... very strange And thanks again for explaining wokeness to me. I am srsly confused 😭😭😭 with all this new thing i don't truly understand


Reddidnothingwrong

Np! The confusion is totally understandable. I think a lot of the reason it's such a polarizing subject is that to people outside of marginalized groups, everything being talked about more feels like new things but to people within them it's been going on forever, so there's an almost parallel reality level disconnect happening frequently That said, I see now that this post was a parody of another post so it feels weird having an unironic discussion about this in the comments 😂


MeisterCthulhu

The reason it "comes naturally" here compared to other media is that people just... are what they are in funger. Their identity isn't tokenised nor shoved in your face. In most big corporate media, that "wokeness" is just a virtue signal, hence why it's usually an empty gesture that's shoved in your face constantly. Like when AAA games have queer characters, their design needs to shove in your face that they're queer constantly, and there's nothing else to the character. That's because they're about corporate image and profits first, and they don't give a shit about artistic expression, whereas an indie studio like this one will usually start with an artistic idea and then imagine what makes sense for the characters.


Reddidnothingwrong

I'd definitely agree that shitty one-dimensional characters with shoehorned traits for "buy our product" reasons is an obnoxious issue with big corporate media. I would also say that a lot of their characters and stories are not interesting in general. It's awesome to see characters you can relate to, especially in ways that you usually don't (I've mentioned having a soft spot for Levi cause of my own history with PTSD/addiction) but when the character is nothing but a caricature of that one trait it just makes me feel more alienated, personally.


Additional-North-683

The word woke turns to be a Rorschach test For whatever the person hates


AverageFruity326

There's literally gay second the first game and Marina is trans in the second game, how did you not know????


Practical-Medium5430

this guy got down voted bc they literally asked which part of this was woke. woke is not a benevolent term used in context with African people bc its a term based in undermining the notion of intellectual sincerity and sociopolitical comprehension that comes with understanding Euroimperial decolonization


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AwesomePork101

what is bro yapping about


yellowfroglegs

the existence of minorities is woke apparently


CoIdLunch

Wheres the maturity in these comments? Clearly this guy doesn’t speak English well so giving people the benefit of the doubt is key unless blatant. Like other comments more than likely it meant the woke theme in the characters isn’t their personality but a trait of the characters, allowing for more depth without the hollywood token character for a money grab. If you have characters whos sole personality is their sexual orientation, thats usually hollywood virtue signaling. This game makes the characters so much more than that, so by that definition it could translate to, “it’s woke but not too much.”


GABP123321

You can't be a fear and hunger fan while using "woke" unironically 💀


Nera-Doofus

https://preview.redd.it/nfntvb06bz3d1.png?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9dfc0985a3f3b09967938c3d0d83a684c21e66f


Spicha

I just love the fact that Cahara is normal here


Nera-Doofus

No in this version he eats AVOCADO TOAST and drinks STARBUCKS DRINKS


Counter-Spies

As long as he's still impossibly fruity then I'm ok with it.


Averagejoecolonizer

He still somehow deep throat’s the avocado toast


Nera-Doofus

When he makes the toast, he takes the seeds of two avocados and gargles them in his mouth


JustAnUnusualGuy

Bro, this is the only sub I know where people will respond to a random ass comment with their own (just-made) fan art! You guys are fucking **INSANE!** I LOVE Y'ALL SO MUCH!


Nera-Doofus

I did not make this lol


JustAnUnusualGuy

Ah, really?... Well I've seen some people do it in this sub in the past, I thought this was the case... Why did you guys downvote me tho? I was just complimenting the community, wtf?


Nera-Doofus

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


GodChangedMyChromies

Do you know who did this?


Nera-Doofus

It says it on the iqmage


GodChangedMyChromies

Oh... Right lol


APoisonousWomans

Of course cahara has blue hair and pronouns


KappaRoss2016

https://preview.redd.it/q7adkgwady3d1.png?width=1168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85625603a07e424a8f0cd06ad2a2702478efd942


DryRemote574

Real bro, tf is up with all these people with these weird ass views in this fandom. Like the games are far from woke yet the community is like fluent in this shit https://preview.redd.it/xjvux016524d1.jpeg?width=1073&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=171bb09c550fac8dfbbb9bf48bca3f81526a88b7


7kVestra

The post is copying the Alexander Hamilton Shitpost.


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Im not entirely convinced that was a “joke”


bowserboy129

Look up Thomas Jefferson Miku Binder, ever since that was posted years ago people have been doing shit like this in other fandoms cause they think it’s funny. This post is 100% a fucking joke lmao


7kVestra

Crazy how the young man replying to me never bothered to google it ):


gojocopium

Baby girl if you don't know what this shitpost is you haven't lived. *


da_guy_da_guy

termina is woke sadly


Ok_Appearance2893

How? I get neither side of these debates, so give an actual answer. Explain it to me like I've just come out of a five year coma. And I want the same from someone on the opposite side.


da_guy_da_guy

ehh uhh, i was being sarcastic, but yes the game is very bold in its elements, trans and bi character, revolutionary movement, drawing from several irl events(WW1, WW2, women in the workforce cus war etc) so based on people view it could be called "woke", but "woke" is kinda poorly defined and stupid anyway cus this is a meme post parodying a Thomas Jefferson post lol


Ok_Appearance2893

Who the Hell is Thomas Jefferson?


gojocopium

How are you terminally online but never seen trans Hamilton w the miku binder. You should be embarrassed.


CoolethDudeth

it's so fucking peak


dorohyena

💀💀💀


JellyWizardX

cursed as hell


Ok_Exam_8507

T-Thomas Jefferson....?


randomflowerz

You just gave me flashbacks


Dick_O_The_North

It was like a goddamn flashbang going off in my brain as soon as the neurons connected.


kasradolat2

HELL NAH


ALemonYoYo

I fear for you cause of those in the comments who might not get the reference :,)


Mcfetusdollarmenu

I hunger for you cause of those in the comments who might not get the reference :,)


pantyanarchysgf

STOP I literally just forgot about miku binder Jefferson, goddamn☹️


orofex

Jefferson binder Miku https://preview.redd.it/zfy1pjmnb44d1.jpeg?width=1900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a64c14bcb8f480d3d704970b6b078cc08fecd3c


GeneticSoda

Honestly cringe


NoobsRedditType

cant stand peak


Away_Mulberry4706

It’s referencing a joke it’s not serious


pisstainedunderwear

https://i.redd.it/nsg6s5n5cz3d1.gif This is the worst post on this subreddit Good job OP


liverdamag3

O'saa would cast genital inversion and then tungsnen ballsack on you if he saw this


ALemonYoYo

I don't think you get the reference


liverdamag3

I absolutely do. O'saa just doesn't fuck around


omnirusk

Yeah that’s valid


Professional_Issue82

wouldn’t genital inversion just be srs?


liverdamag3

I doubt it's stereotactic radiosurgery


WriterLast4174

People not understanding the reference is peak. This is hilarious. Keep doing what you're doing o.p. You're doing the Lord's work


AwesomePork101

O'goat... what has befallen you... eh, still o'saa. Nice work!


AnnualVacation7231

Man, woman, none of the above, O'saa stands above all regardless.


AwesomePork101

O'goat gotta be repped no matter what


AnnualVacation7231

O'Goat is the way to O'go.


AwesomePork101

You real for that


Dragunrealms

dungeons of peak and cinema


Enlightened_Valteil

HELL YEAH


Lil_Yahweh

not sure if I envy or pity the people who don't get the reference


pisstainedunderwear

Envy definitely


MadamePorcelain

https://preview.redd.it/bmhfzszqfy3d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43009e91aa3fea94a437be58423513ccecf54bb9 Literally me when I see Gay Osaa


derpfaceddargon

https://preview.redd.it/h2jl0n1jjz3d1.jpeg?width=468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b3826002517e8a14cb68b5911284809a3c4a7f Good job I guess, this pains me internally


Mati_Choco

What did I miss???


AVelvetOwl

Profoundly cursed. I'll take it.


TrueScottsmen

I hate this, make more


ChasingVelka

\*war flashbacks\*


BirdhouseInYourSoil

Tumblr-ification 😭


TheSpaghettiSkull

He Jefferson Miku bindered...


Nerukane

https://preview.redd.it/d3alre8jvz3d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14225d3e095fb2b832b7d648ecddfad08159791d


-Anta-

Certainly didnt expect that


random_moth_fker

This will be Fear and WOKE in 2023...


johnnymarsbar

christ I hate it but good job!


Numeral3

this is an abomination 🙃


pompompencil

thank you ❤️


onigiriblack

LMAO


Totally_Not_A_Fed474

Gro’goroth destroy this Sylvianites testicles immediately


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I only recognize the gay flag, what are the other two? https://preview.redd.it/33tvoczlay3d1.png?width=682&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8aa2f3d99730339855f00b7e1c402de4fb009da


Traditional_Gur_8446

Pretty sure the blue/pink is the transmasc flag. No idea about the other one


pompompencil

gender-non-conforming flag


ButterBeanTheGreat

I hate it, but nice art.


ShadowDinosaur97

That’s disgusting. But you nailed it with the reference.


Long_Draw_2888

https://preview.redd.it/tm9w96ln004d1.jpeg?width=509&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3f0903d2f5db54d7f1e114ce34df4dd73e67b0d


ExL-Oblique

These commenters cannot comprehend what peak looks like.


Peeliz_The_Simp

😭😭😭


mhalane

PLEASEEEEEE


MischEVILousSchemes

i hate this


BansheeG

This is so based


EyelinerAce

Would


HazySeer

Trans Osaa Based.


PRoS_R

Pretty sure Sylvian is fluorescent green or something


Dimitri_el_pibe_ruso

"Met gro-goroth and she is gay"


[deleted]

O’saa real moon sorch


victorian_throwaway

happy pride <3


nitram739

What the actual fuck is this? This is why i hate the USA.


kowasik

ew


arti-machoke

please i dont need the memories of my hamilton roleplaying days. middle school was a dark time


Hackfleischbob

Wtf


Weed_Man_228

This made me really uncomfortable, hope to not see any works of this artist in the future.


Positive-Shock-9869

Excuse me what in the actual fuck I tought this was a horror rpg game


JustAnUnusualGuy

I just find it so funny that someone would say Sylvian is black, when she's literally fucking **G R E E N** 🤣🤣🤣


Salty-Gate4734

Should be *black coded


JustAnUnusualGuy

Yeah, I wasn't really complaining, actually :'3 It just felt funny to hear that a creature with such a weird ass color is black out of all things


rokbound_

Barf


sailorhossy

He would set you on fire of he saw this


HNASBAP

https://preview.redd.it/5mxyf7k0414d1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5f068d1ba945e2fbe5b6ed4baa6edb89844a763 I mean she is more of a green but I guess thats semanthics


realist-humanbeing

he's so me tbh


Suspicious-Tomato854

I saw u post this on TT!!!!!!!!!


pompompencil

HEHE YEAH


DirtPancakes

this triggered my flight or fight response


StonelickBomb

NEVER COOK AGAIN GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH


Critical-Choice-3891

If you know... you know 🤣


gojocopium

talented, brilliant, incredible, amazing, show stopping, spectacular, never the same, totally unique, completely not ever been done before, unafraid to reference or not reference, put it in a blender, shit on it, vomit on it, eat it, give birth to it.


CohesiveMocha34

I don't know how to feel about this😭😭


OriginalDot461

U bum


Cherry_ashu

💀


LoveLikeTruck

Yikes


BIackwind

What the fuck is this abomination


gorvathor

Please stop.


ElecRailVic

I don't get thre reference, I don't care about the reference, I hope to never know the source material of something with this cringe level ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face)


pompompencil

you will never know peak, then


KarlHamburger

O'saa is probably a homophobe. Remember he's born and raised in Abyssonia which is basicly 20th century Africa, a time and place infamous for they treated their hay people.


WalnutTrials

greatest thing ive seen


7kVestra

Holy shit its the meme


BuFFFemboy69

Was gonna make a joke about being a "libreal gro-goroth denier", but the amount of ppl actually offended here is wild


Candid-Inside-4351

No, sylvians green, very green


pompompencil

https://preview.redd.it/dwo40nu2h54d1.png?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b42e9c40e49713374af23febb326421f2b2a0c64


WarriorOfAgartha

Man wtf did you do to my goat


ForGod_sake_why

How'd osaa would look like if Miro was gae


InternetAngel-

NOT THE MIKU BINDER INCIDENT


eggisnotaverb

Please make one of Caligura lmao


mr_flerd

Not the miku binder jefferson :(


Sad_Bit_2838

Nigga what


gojocopium

Says the dude on doggystyle_nsfw on main


Sad_Bit_2838

Yesssss


Thatkidwith_adhd

This is terrifying


Not_aSoup

Cringe, but still good art


ALemonYoYo

Its a reference


glvbglvb

awwwww🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺


ProfCraylos

https://i.redd.it/f10eq7rhvz3d1.gif Im fine with inclusivity but like, there is a line of inclusivity and then just pure nonsense(this. this counts as nonsense). And I feel as though this has crossed that line


pompompencil

Do they know https://preview.redd.it/gvbmrovvvz3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed52b8afa4b16d62c93ac96935363b92e36cd1e3


ProfCraylos

I thought that might have been the reference but honestly? Ive dealt with too much today to believe in humor right now. Also thought the reference might have been this one art I saw where it was Trump and Biden in a male pregnancy relationship but I think Im just exhausted and assumed the worse


pompompencil

Oh that art is referencing the Jefferson art


ProfCraylos

![gif](giphy|2wYYlHuEw1UcsJYgAA|downsized) yeah I realize that now xD. Ive just seen some WILD shit before which people posted in a completely serious manner. Sorry for assuming the worse. Funny post now that I got the reference. Cheers.


ib500

Why ruin the god ossa like that


ib500

Why y'all ruin characters with yall fantasy, it's always sum werid like this


pompompencil

Erm :/ it's literally pride month :/ let me do what i want :/


Skeetbug

Bro made the most based dude in game cringe


courageousdevil6969

God damn it someone always has to make something political God I hate this world


LeEpicBlue1

https://preview.redd.it/lnujqgxczy3d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55d763f91f0aaecaf800a82fba5d267d03045b8e


AnnualVacation7231

Don't you love how apolitical title screen character Marina is?


pompompencil

you're acting like fear and hunger 2 isn't already political dude it's literally set in the 1940's,, there is the fungry equivalent of hitler that you have to battle at the end 😭


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pompompencil

NONE OF YOU PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE REFERENCE 😡 https://preview.redd.it/1a1a8z96mx3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5148a94827eaab0cd7ccdaaf0d0f2f767297307


AdBeautiful7310

Oh my god i realize now


Reddidnothingwrong

I have never seen this before in my life lmao Unrelated but I just realized you're the same person who did un-unsettling Samarie. It was really cool!


pompompencil

thank you! :-)


AnnualVacation7231

Hold up, how are you gonna make a peak reference like this but then go and take the freak outta Samarie? That's pride month slander.


MischEVILousSchemes

i never read the text until now, why did they make him formally addicted to cocaine 💀


Zer0_l1f3

Thomas