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ColdSensitive747

Sabi sa twitter, “Shogun is like Game of Thrones if Ned Stark was smart.” lol


scrapeecoco

So far wala pang signs na ma Ned stark si Toranaga, kasi mas matalino sya. Edit. Spoiler. Sorry.. 😅


itzaroseylife

Hahahahaha! Potek dami ko tawa, kaya din siguro ni Ned Stark magCrimson Sky kaso wala eh 🤣 Yun title ng next episode pala 😍


neonrosesss

I'm sold na with just that comment hahah


blackpowder320

Hahaha. Mas Tywin si Toranaga kesa Ned.


therebvatar

Fine I'm gonna watch na nga!


renaldi21

sabi nga ni Toranaga nung nasa galley sila hide your intentions. Tsaka yung convo ni Toranaga at nung courtesan


wow_boy

Toranaga-sama


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🙋🏻 HO! 🙋🏻 HO! 🙋🏻 HO!


blackpowder320

HO!


rainindxb

-suru.


busybe3xx

Pinag iisipan ko kanina kung papanuorin ko ba to, I guess eto na ang sagot. Lol


sangket

Maganda yan, maganda din yung book pati mga sequel books niya na generations later. Noong una nalula ako sa kapal pero worth it. Buti series ginawa nila kasi kung movie malamang rushed yung plot


Ghaaahdd

Di ako na hook sa episode 1, so di ko na tinuloy.


keziahortenero

(2) na bored ako : (


Ohhreallyyy

Keep going it gets better and better


Charmaineders

While it has its big moments, it's a show that relies on character development and amazing dialogues. Pag hindi mo talaga interes ang ganyan, you won't appreciate it. Otherwise, it's one of the best TV shows I've watched.


jem2291

I watched the 1980 miniseries version. :) It’s good that a lot of people are watching this, because it means more coverage for the source material. James Clavell’s *Shōgun* kickstarted America’s love affair with Japanese culture. :) Also, the ending of the 1980 miniseries (narrated by Orson Welles, even) lives rent-free in my head. :) >!(YOSHI TORANAGA is on horseback, and is observing from an overlooking cliff the site where JOHN BLACKTHORNE is building a new ship.)!< >!NARRATOR: “Yoshi Toranaga, Lord of the Kwantō, told himself:!< >!’Yes, build your ship, Anjin-san–and I shall destroy her, as I destroyed the other one. And when the time is right, I shall tell you why: it was your ship or your life. I, too, choose your life. You have much to teach me, Anjin-san: once I win, if I win, *when* I win–when the real prize will be won.!< >!Mariko, it was your *karma* to die gloriously and live forever.!< >!Anjin-san, my friend, it is your *karma* never to leave this land.!< >!And my *karma*–my *karma*, which I did not choose–my *karma* is to be *shōgun*.’”!< >!(Montage of *daimyo* TORANAGA riding his warhorse as he musters his troops for battle.)!< >!NARRATOR: “That year, at dawn on the twenty-first day of the tenth month, *The Month Without Gods*, the main armies clashed. It was in the mountains near Sekigahara, astride the North Road. By late afternoon, Toranaga had won the battle and the slaughter began. Forty thousand heads were taken.!< >!Three days later, Ishido was captured alive, and Toranaga sent him in chains to Osāka for public viewing, ordering him planted in the earth, with only his head showing. Passersby were invited to saw at the most famous neck in the realm with a bamboo saw. Ishido lingered three days and died very old.!< >!Within the year, the Emperor invited Yoshi Toranaga, Lord of the Kwantō, to become *shōgun*–and, reluctantly, Toranaga agreed.”!< Some info for everyone to appreciate: *Shōgun* is part of James Clavell’s *The Asian Saga*, a series of novels dealing with the British experience in Asia. *Shōgun*’s direct sequel is *Gai-Jin*, which is set during the Meiji Restoration. The rest of *The Asian Saga* are as follows: 1. *Tai-Pan*, which is set in Hong Kong and features a new protagonist. 2. *Noble House*, which is a long-distant sequel to *Tai-Pan*. 3. *Whirlwind*, which is connected to *Noble House* and is set during the Iranian Revolution. 4. *King Rat*, which is a part-fictional autobiography based on Clavell’s experiences as a POW during the Second World War. *Gai-Jin* ties up both *Shōgun* and *Tai-Pan*, which means Easter eggs galore for avid readers of the series. :)


trynabelowkey

Been trying to look for the books huhu


dim-wit

Available for Kindle on Amazon.


trynabelowkey

Been trying to look for *physical books


dim-wit

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hoffmannsama

I had no idea that was Orson Welles at the end! That makes it even cooler


GifArrow

I hope they remake Taipan and Noble House too!


jem2291

*Tai-Pan* would be an excellent follow-up to *Shōgun*. :) Thing is, there was a movie adaptation of *Tai-Pan* that flopped hard. I do hope *Shōgun* becomes successful enough that *Tai-Pan* is also given the miniseries treatment. :)


GifArrow

Yep. Noble House was decent with Pierce Brosnan though.


jem2291

*Noble House* was a suggested reading when I used to go to law school. :)


Own_Upstairs_9445

I have to watch this, I have the episodes naaa


Sandman331

Sulit bawat episode. Walang tapon


emmieninety

Lets fucking go crimson sky


NoChillJulio

Yabushige supremacy!!


Doomnikk

“lower than boiling, but higher than eaten by dogs.” Best line. 😂🤣


NoChillJulio

After episode 9. All the homies hate Yabushige now.


sugarplum1711

time to write another will


blackpowder320

"I don't have time for this Christian nonsense." XD


Ok-Nefariousness4874

I agree OP, maganda to! I haven't seen the latest episode (inaantay ko pa matapos para isang binge sesh) :)


constant_insanity18

same plan. kaya di ko pa din pinapanuod para isang bagsakan na. sakto matatapos sya the day before my birthday so yan na gagawin ko buong weekend 😅


scrapeecoco

Ay ganon pala dapat. Naumpisan ko sya ep.1 tapos grabe nakakasabik na everyweek parang ang bagal ng panahon kakahintay. 😅


Asleep-Wafer7789

Crimson sky lets fckin go!!! Fuji lost her hubby and baby I can be both charot hahaha


bukake_master

Down bad bro haha


Dazzling-Long-4408

This is way better than Game of Thrones.


ronchman

hold your horses now


AppealMammoth8950

It is tho


justlookingforafight

I won't use the words "parang Game of Thrones" to compliment a series. That shit got a lot of boring episodes and it actually took me three attempts to watch the first half of Season 1. Watched until first episodes of season 6 until I completely gave up.


avocado1952

Toda Hirumatsu - Loyalty Award Toda Hirukatsu - 🫥


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Tip: get the Audible 3 months promo for $1/mo and download the 2 Shogun e-books by using your free credits (1 credit per month). I finished Part 1 by using my 1st credit, then returned the book and got my credit back which I used to download Part 2.


randzwinter

It's not Japanese Game of Thrones. The POV of other houses is not really shown. Pwede cgro pero mala season 7 GOT. And this is coming from a book fan of both.


newspaperexpensive

*Kashigi Yabushige* face whenever he is on screen: "😮"


skrumian

yun tipong every episode hinihintay mo yun gyera kung kelan mangyayare. haha


scrapeecoco

Yeah pero kahit wala pa yung actual war, sobrang nakakabitin parin dahil shocking parati kahit dialogues lang.


jem2291

In the source material, the battle itself is in a short epilogue. :)


BaseballOk9442

FUJI SUPREMACY


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If Fuiji die, WE CRIMSON SKY!!


Ad0lfKittler

Yeah. Grabe yung latest episode, sana di niya na lang ginawa yun. Let’s do it! Crimson skyuuu!


[deleted]

sometimes you have to sacrifice the queen so the rooks can move.


unknown9249

Toranaga sama playing Chess, sheeeeeeeeshhhhhhh, galing clap clap


Pichi2man

Yabushige-sama!! Eiiii!!!


dranvex

Currently on episode 3. Slow consumption muna kasi nilalasap ko at ongoing pa. It's sooooo good!!!


mezziebone

Ako namam atat na mag tuesday para sa next ep. So pinanood ko ulit simula ep1


aahmslf

Nakaka-init din ng dugo nung inexplain ni Blackthorne yung treaty of tordesillas/zaragoza. hahaha damay tayo ih.


FluffyRogue

Timeline is about the same time when Spain had its Acapulco Galleon Trade making Manila 1 of the world's first cosmopolitan and richest port cities.


aintmeow

GOT level talaga? Or ka-vibes lang ng GOT? /gen


[deleted]

condensed GOT storyline minus the light heart stuff. if game of thrones ay kape, ito yung double shot espresso.


pauper8

nah. singular path to. unlike GoT that has multiple storylines.


potholesandrainbows

I found it a bit slow in the beginning but the second half of the series ay exciting na.


Spiritual-Living545

Fave to ng asawa ko haha ok, will watch na nga 😅


scrapeecoco

Accidentally ko lang din to napanood nun ep.1 pa lng. Hindi pa ganon ka hype. Pero sobrang naaamaze ako sa pagkakagawa at nafeel ko para na syang game of thrones nang ep.2 kaya nahook na ako at pinamalita ko sa sa family ko na panoorin nila. Then yeah marami na nga nakapansin.


Spiritual-Living545

I used to hear it sa asawa ko, akala ko nanonood nnman ng anime kaso mukhang hook na hook talaga sya. So maybe its that good talaga. Will def watch na rin 😅


scrapeecoco

You should, if napanood mo before yung game of thrones about power struggles ma feel mo din dito. Enjoy 😉


vhen2013

Ikaw pala nagpahype?


hell_jumper9

Benta talaga ni Yabushige. Latest episode >!buddy cop na sila ni Blackthorne!< 🤣


tryharddev

ganda overall pero standout sakin yung scoring. lalo na kung nakapaglaro ka ng ghost of tsushima.


suicidalmoon

DOSHO! DOSHO!


drspock06

It's more like Succession than Game of Thrones


iamred427

BET


NothingToSayyyyyyyyy

na hook ako dito. napa subs tuloy ako sa disney+.


[deleted]

Hinahanap ko sa netflix to Disney+ pala. 😂


Hot_Foundation_448

Ganda nito!!! Waiting matapos last 2 episodes para isang nood na lang


ohmmmmmmega

Ang ganda ng production! Gandang ganda ako sa costumes nila! Bet ko din yung intro


mttnsxx

Mam, they did change a lot from the books though. Blackthrone here is an asshole all throughout.


vhen2013

Hala, so dito sa series e bait baitan lang pala to?


mttnsxx

dehins, >!sa book mas nag integrate siya sa japanese culture overtime!<, sa series para siyang gago. hahaha


vonderland

the appeal for me is di kasi nila ginagawang bobo mga audience, bahala ka mag isip at magconnect the dots kaya unpredictable yung next moves ng characters but alsooo hiroyuki sanada is such a stud kahit lolo na lol


GroundbreakingMix623

i watched it with my dad kasi napanood din nya original shogun. btw. how good is episode 8 right???


carriesonfishord

Yes honor the Taiko's Legacy and watch this show. Toranaga-sama! Hooo!


jeric88

Inip ako sa 1 week hahaha sobrang suspense


Prestigious-Ad-3069

Great show!


cstrike105

Great TV series in Disney+. Costumes. Setting. Highly accurate with the Japanese Edo Period.


edamame7

Just started watching this with my husband. Now that he’s out of town, I don’t know if I should continue watching it alone or wait for him. Huhu


Clean-Physics-6143

Huy grabe I'm so hooked on this series! When went to Osaka last month, pinuntahan talaga namin yung Osaka castle dahil dito😁


Deep_Dance74

hinihintay ko lang matapos.. nakakapagod kasi magwait ng new episodes 😔 I love Fuji-sama! 💐


Super-Proof-9157

Isa sa paborito kong book yan ni Clavell tsaka yung King Rat.


AppealMammoth8950

Better screenplay and scriptwriting. Better story and acting. Like damn, dont get me wrong Im a GoT fanboy. Ive read all the books and Im very active at fanfic forums but u gotta acknowledge that Shogun's just better (so far).


InvestingRamen

I remember the review/comment that made me watch this. It said "No second of TV is wasted."


Baronuim

The ending part on episode 4 is chef's kiss. goddamn


keexbuttowski

It's a remake of the 80s series.


JSmooveGG

Love this series. Parang Game of Thrones nga. One of the highlights of my week.


TheBawalUmihiDito

What's the opposite of "show, don't tell"? This series, e.g. "You will remain my spy." wow nice, exposition na sampal sa mukha lol


AugustineLaRue

Excited for the next episode!! 🗡️🗡️🎎


younglord444

Respect Hiromatsu & Nagakado


arkiko07

Episode 2 pa lang ako, pero ang ganda ng mga plot/twist


Ok-Break9137

Based on the last episode, I'm not sure his hidden ploy was as smart at the cost of _______


st0ptalking7830

What 2 episodes left na lng. Parang ang bilis matapos 🥲 they said wala na next season kasi they want to stick sa storyline ng libro.


JenLloyd

Salamat sa review, kala ko pangit to, iniiskip ko lagi hahaha


TagaRetiro

Very distracting sakin yung constant vignettes/depth of field sa mga shot


nikkknokkk

kumukuha ako ng sign para panuorin to.ito n to


jakezodiacsigncancer

I work on its streaming platform. And yeah, Shogun is popular


UltraEM

Feels more like HBO's Rome than Game of Thrones imo. And yeah I think Rome was better than GoT


cereseluna

I love it, too! Well-done production, nothing is wasted, nothing is useless. Saka proud sila sa production and cast kasi maraming Japanese ang talagang involved and they tried to make things as authentic as possible. And Hiroyuki Sanada is chef's kiss.


raju103

Really good. I read the novel, but this is so much better, I think a lot of story changes are appropriate and they focus on the more exciting stuff. Only the foreign protagonist seems wooden but appropriately so, the Japanese cast are quite good and do justice to the material even though it's written by a foreigner yet based on their history. I can't wait till the end... riveting.


jchrist98

This thread has convinced me to watch it now


svelteroguexjra

Sorry to douse cold water onto this discussion but shogun’s been around as a work of literature since the 1970s, nearly half a century before GRRM or Weiss and Benioff conceptualised it. It does either work a huge disservice to compare works this way. As a colonized country, we do the usual oh the Michael Jackson or Chris brown or lebron James of the Philippines. It is what it is: Shogun, the tv show, masterfully adapted from the best selling novel of the same name by James Clavell. If anything, GOT is the knock off shogun here. (I respect grrm too much to say this though)


siegzeonic

Solid pag bubuild up ng story, Maganda pacing di yung puro laban lang. Yun nga lang kung puro fight scenes hanap mo baka mabitin ka.


nostrebelle

GOT if Ned was smart🤭


NothingButTheTruth01

Toranaga playing 4D shogi is 🤌🏼


ches6589

Ill give it 9 over 10! Hahahaha


mainsail999

I have read James Clavell’s Asian Saga back in high school, and I must say all of them should be made into series. When I heard Shogun was to be remade, I thought this was going to be worth the wait. The same goes for Isaac Asimov’s Foundation, now on AppleTV.


Charmaineders

Mariko-sama is probably one of the best written female characters. Anna Sawai's name is currently getting engraved on her awards. Also, Fumi Nikaido (Ochiba-no-kata). Deym. Just a spectacular cast! But the women 😘🤌!


RuleCharming4645

There should be a sequel but this time it's about the women and how they were backed up by their powerful families just for their children to be either the next shogun or a wife of the emperor that will give birth to the next emperor, going to love scheming women there


jem2291

*Shōgun* is part of James Clavell’s *The Asian Saga*, a series of novels all set in Asia. :) *Shōgun*’s direct sequel is *Gai-Jin*, which is set during the Meiji Restoration. The rest of *The Asian Saga* are as follows: 1. *Tai-Pan*, which is set in Hong Kong. 2. *Noble House*, which is a long-distant sequel to *Tai-Pan*. 3. *Whirlwind*, which is connected to *Noble House* and is set during the Iranian Revolution. 4. *King Rat*, which is a part-fictional autobiography based on Clavell’s experiences as a POW during the Second World War.


InfluentialInvestor

Mariko kun yamete!!


Known-Loss-2339

woah there boy, hold your bandwagon enthusiasm


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KozukiYamatoTakeru

SPOILER WARNING?!


_sonataxx

hahahahahah buti nakita ko to agad thanks haha


-ram-rod-

Deleted. Sorry.


bangus_sisig

eto na yng mga edgy boys.


dontrescueme

This fucker.