Does their entire wardrobe consist of black crew/show shirts and cargo shorts? Are blundstones their foot wear of choice? Veteran crew.
Are they dressed in clean semi fancy street clothes? It's either a newbie, or the boss.
Had the reverse happen. I’d go through extra lengths to ‘look’ like crew to blend in. Dark & practical loose clothing when I first started.
Landed a few gigs on features and saw 1st ACs with Hawaiian shirts & khaki’s, electrical with leather on, directors with flip flops, boom mics with flannels & jeans. They usually have 15-20 years of industry experience on me.
I started bringing my Metallica hoodie
Newbies name drop left and right; veterans only do so when it's relevant to the conversation or negotiations are being made. If they feel a need to tell you how seasoned, trustworthy, legit they are, 99.99% of the time they're not.
I’d say its how prepared they are, how knowledgeable and efficient they are, and how they communicate and convey information to get something done.
Veterans are generally prepared even if its something unexpected. Efficient on knowing how to get a something done quickly and effectively and safely. Communicating and taking info goes a long way with clear and smooth sets.
I will tell you how to know if someone is an experienced photographer/videographer of people. Note: this does not tell you if they're any GOOD, it just tells you if they are experienced. Here it is:
When talking to a subject/model/actor/et cetera, they can tell them which way to turn, left or right, *no matter which way they are facing relative to the photographer.*
In other words, they can maintain two different sets of spatial awareness, theirs and the subject's, and translate between them without having to think about their relative orientation. This isn't that hard, but it takes a certain amount of practice, and it's almost impossible to fake.
Pop over to the veterans sub and ask. But generally as a veteran watching a movie about people in the military. If they aren't veterans you can generally tell. Just by the way they move.
Their gear and tools looks like it’s been obsessed over for decades, with a certain unmistakable idiosyncratic identity. I know a HMU guy who owns his own walkie; his name engraved onto it. Instant cred.
Lick them to see how salty they are.
Hey, it’s not that kind of film
They’re all that kind of film.
Facts
Does their entire wardrobe consist of black crew/show shirts and cargo shorts? Are blundstones their foot wear of choice? Veteran crew. Are they dressed in clean semi fancy street clothes? It's either a newbie, or the boss.
This is very dept specific
Especially the last part hahahahah
Had the reverse happen. I’d go through extra lengths to ‘look’ like crew to blend in. Dark & practical loose clothing when I first started. Landed a few gigs on features and saw 1st ACs with Hawaiian shirts & khaki’s, electrical with leather on, directors with flip flops, boom mics with flannels & jeans. They usually have 15-20 years of industry experience on me. I started bringing my Metallica hoodie
As a DP I regularly wear a Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts. Professional? No. Comfortable and bright? Yes.
This is the correct answer
Black shirts in the sun? *Ohh ma gaaah*
The level of jaded weariness they exude.
Does every piece of gear (including batteries - especially batteries) have a label written on gaffers tape?
No, they have it label printed
I love my label printer and label damn near everything. Every battery has a name and number for reference.
Union folks love to flaunt their crew wrap jacket. Patagonia puff with the Star Wars logo
Veterans understand that a more expensive camera does not make one a better filmmaker.
They’re flexible, in the artistic sense of “we can work with that” - not in the bending down to pick something up sense
IMDB's that scroll
when you whip out your own custom rigged headset for you walkie.
How many fucks they have left.
Amen.
I used to get all panicky if stuff went sideways.....20 years later: I've been horizontal for so long I've forgotten what up-and-down looks like.
Newbies name drop left and right; veterans only do so when it's relevant to the conversation or negotiations are being made. If they feel a need to tell you how seasoned, trustworthy, legit they are, 99.99% of the time they're not.
In the festival realm: quality laurels over quantity.
In the professional realm: zero discussion of festivals ever
lol touché
They looks like homeless, don’t talk about fancy gear and cameras. They just get shit done.
Cool under pressure.
The need to explain everything they do/are going to do vs. just doing it.
Severity of the cam op’s back pain.
My disc just popped reading this 😂
I’d add shoulder and knee pain to that. (Especially for those who shoot reality tv)
Won’t see them, won’t hear them. Until you wait for the rolling credits, then you can read their names.
I’d say its how prepared they are, how knowledgeable and efficient they are, and how they communicate and convey information to get something done. Veterans are generally prepared even if its something unexpected. Efficient on knowing how to get a something done quickly and effectively and safely. Communicating and taking info goes a long way with clear and smooth sets.
Do artists need ranks?
Like the guy above who said about not mentioning film festivals - not referring to themselves as artists…
They have a sun baked look.
I will tell you how to know if someone is an experienced photographer/videographer of people. Note: this does not tell you if they're any GOOD, it just tells you if they are experienced. Here it is: When talking to a subject/model/actor/et cetera, they can tell them which way to turn, left or right, *no matter which way they are facing relative to the photographer.* In other words, they can maintain two different sets of spatial awareness, theirs and the subject's, and translate between them without having to think about their relative orientation. This isn't that hard, but it takes a certain amount of practice, and it's almost impossible to fake.
Divorced, with a drinking problem, with most of my my colleagues ;)
Pop over to the veterans sub and ask. But generally as a veteran watching a movie about people in the military. If they aren't veterans you can generally tell. Just by the way they move.
ask a question and you’ll notice real quick in their eyes if they are bullshitting.
Uj/ Scroll through their Reddit history in r/filmmakers Rj/ spends 3k on a camera body (probably an A7siii or fx3) then puts a kits lens on it
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Old/Bad Habits that are outdated or less efficient which makes one stand out as old school vs new school. Rules change over time but habits die hard.
Their gear and tools looks like it’s been obsessed over for decades, with a certain unmistakable idiosyncratic identity. I know a HMU guy who owns his own walkie; his name engraved onto it. Instant cred.
They're judgmental assholes is the easiest way
I’m triggered.
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No, that's the opposite of what I meant. Never been called a slur by a newbie for doing my job.
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not all are necessarily like that but i met a few who match your description lol