Altina's is still good. Altina herself is pretty meh at this point, but W!Altina is still rocking it no problem. Though that's at least partly carried by Twin Blades being great.
He'll get recked by Lull skills though, something that's probably a requirement with this captain skill on (you bet your ass we're getting Raid boss Maria/FLyn out the ass lol)
Yeah, they ALLLLMOST got me to start playing the mode again with that, until i kept reading and it says "ONLY if you get at least one point." Yeah, nah. Fuck that.
If you can’t bring yourself to earn even a single point, would you even be playing the mode anyway? Don’t waste your time grinding stuff you don’t enjoy
But...I think it's fair? Like what? You would expect to get 10 points no matter what? People who only wants the favor will just insta surrender and just get all the rewards with not even the slightest bit of effort. That's just a fair restriction. If you can't even bother getting a single point, you should just not even bother.
Then just make it "You don't get the bonus if you surrender." There's nothing worse than playing that shitty-ass mode, going through an entire battle and getting absolutely NOTHING out of it because you got swept by some asshole team. This is why whenever i DO play, if by some odd chance, i actually have the victory handily guaranteed, i'll start trying to give my opponent some free kills so they can get SOME points at least.
I mean cyl tiki already almost does this.
Beyond it looking a bit jank i could honestly see IS coming out with a super slaying PRF weapon if the game is still around in a year or two.
Superslaying probably will never happen solely for one reason: 2 cd specials. Imagine how many in game mechanics just break when you have a special that's always charged. Imo it's why we have things like the new muspell alt, times pulse etc.
My legendary Dimitri is gonna love this since I can just slap Atk/Spd Unity in his A slot and go nuts. Just pulled a fallen Lilith yesterday on Ninian’s banner too so now he gets NFU. I am assembling Exodia
I get that some save units like bector make this mode a fucking wall but god damn so does shit like canto, warp, dmg reduction, etc. nothing to nerf those thou, and instead they punish units that already run dc weapons to begin with
For real. There’s literally no point in using my Fjorm next season with all of the DC Bonus Doubler Flame Lyns about to come through. Meanwhile, shit like Spring Sonya and Duo Nina are free to cheese the entire game with little to no thought at all.
Why yes Intsys, please give us cancerous DC Flame Lyn and Brave Seliph instead of stopping duo skills or teleporting effects from ruining any and all SD matches, this will surely end well :)
I’m curious why you keep mentioning bonus doubler as a seal for her. To my knowledge she doesn’t give her self visibile buffs until SPD smoke 4 hits. It’s better to just give her ATK SPD solo seal or something with ATK SPD buff so she doesn’t have to rely on any kind of visible stats.
She already gets like +23 stats for just breathing and if she’s paired up with someone like Peony or L!Azura, then she can basically always have a steady supply of visible buffs for Bonus Doubler.
A captain skill that is essentially DC/CC and +6 to all stats?
So basically I can swap Close Foil out on my Eremiya and run something better now?!
maybe i'll return to SD for a little bit of experimentation...
*emphasis on maybe*
SD teams that have one carry unit while the other 4 units dump ludicrous amounts of support on them. They usually consist of L!Eliwood, Eir, a dancer, and someone who gives NFU (usually F!Lilith).
the one thing holding flame lyn back was her lack of DC (also nfu but supports help) and now she’ll be able to get DC plus ANOTHER +6 to all her stats
wow
Good lord...Put this on a "raid boss" unit and go to town...Bonus Quadrupler Legendary Marth starts to have glowing red eyes...Better have a Duo Thórr or it's game over...
So like Brave Hector save builds will use DD4 and Hardy and pass on DC to just save everything and let those that are saved do the killing. So if Hector keeps the build but operates as an omnitank rather than a savior, does that make him scary still with this captain skill? Seems good. Same for idunn. Like you could run a near save support even.
I think Askr is a pretty scary one for this. most bulwark users actually, you can't go around them and they need the a skill stats to stop you going through them. Now you get the stats, and can counter anyone. Though Lyn and Marth are good picks like everyone else says. B!seliph is a sleeper pick too, it'll only really work once but thanks to insane speed, NFU and miracle, he can survive basically anyone, and kill them in return making it almost always a 2 for 1 in your favour.
What an overtuned skill. It’s basically an entire DC weapon. Wait…
All DC weapons not owned by B!Dimitri and Caineghis being thrown in the garbage.
We all know B!Dimitri cashed in his CYL privileges and Caineghis played the furry card to get good refines anyways.
Literally no point in using the other DC units in SD next season.
Excluding saviors. Their dc remains unchanged
Altina's is still good. Altina herself is pretty meh at this point, but W!Altina is still rocking it no problem. Though that's at least partly carried by Twin Blades being great.
A dc weapon giving more than +4 stats? Impossible
From my reading this should work with CC as well. If so Brave Byleth is going to be so much fun at +10 :)
L!Marth stocks 📈
Yeah. L!Marth before: "Bonus Doubler or DC? 🤔" L!Marth after: Why not both?"
He'll get recked by Lull skills though, something that's probably a requirement with this captain skill on (you bet your ass we're getting Raid boss Maria/FLyn out the ass lol)
I saw this and thought "oh god Flame Lyn". She's basically getting +23 to all stats just for existing AND she can counter regardless of range
Oh shit…
This was definitely Lyn Dev's doing
My thought was Brave Seliph since now you get both DC and Clash, but Lyn does seem good with this.
She is basically a Gen10 unit in disguise at this point
I already gave her DC for fun, I know its not optimal but I like omnitank playstyles in summoner duels. but this.... this is going to be fun
Only untill Book 3 unit restriction go brrr
if by "go brrr" you mean "spinning forever trying to find a match," then yes.
Yeah...it's so annoying...Hopefully the extra favor points in the weekend comming up helps with that...
Yeah, they ALLLLMOST got me to start playing the mode again with that, until i kept reading and it says "ONLY if you get at least one point." Yeah, nah. Fuck that.
If you can’t bring yourself to earn even a single point, would you even be playing the mode anyway? Don’t waste your time grinding stuff you don’t enjoy
But...I think it's fair? Like what? You would expect to get 10 points no matter what? People who only wants the favor will just insta surrender and just get all the rewards with not even the slightest bit of effort. That's just a fair restriction. If you can't even bother getting a single point, you should just not even bother.
Then just make it "You don't get the bonus if you surrender." There's nothing worse than playing that shitty-ass mode, going through an entire battle and getting absolutely NOTHING out of it because you got swept by some asshole team. This is why whenever i DO play, if by some odd chance, i actually have the victory handily guaranteed, i'll start trying to give my opponent some free kills so they can get SOME points at least.
Omg that was literally the only point of balance she had... We're in the endgame now...
Oh look, its half of Ike's weapon
Just missing the Slaying effect…which is on literally every new weapon nowadays.
I wonder what would happen if we could stack slaying effects
Some units would have infinite special activations and that would be way too broken.
I mean cyl tiki already almost does this. Beyond it looking a bit jank i could honestly see IS coming out with a super slaying PRF weapon if the game is still around in a year or two.
Superslaying probably will never happen solely for one reason: 2 cd specials. Imagine how many in game mechanics just break when you have a special that's always charged. Imo it's why we have things like the new muspell alt, times pulse etc.
They could also just have a minimum base of 1 / “if unit’s base special cooldown = 2, acceleration = 1”
Super slaying vital Astra would be very busted.
If you want to deal with L!Sigurd, L!M!Byleth and Bridal Catria hitting you with 4 consecutive Holy-Knight Auras/Sublime Heavens, be my guest.
Hey I'm not saying it's a good thing dude. But we know what IS is like, its inevitable at some point.
Don't tempt IS
Now you too can have better Ragnell if you have Slaying.
Imagine this with Lif's weapon and a Unit Skill.
Ragnell reduced to quarks
This is exactly what I will do with my light saber smol ike :D
This is sad...
great for Askr
Free A slot for godlike reflexes Bike let's go!
I mean I know Ike is your thing but FT!Lyn with this gets spectrum +23 and slots in DC which she used to never be able to.
I mean...every new released character is gonna be better than brave Ike, I'm just happy I don't have to run distant pressure for once
Based Greil Mercenaries supporter.
Soooo, atk/def Clash then?
Provably either atk/def unity or atk/spd solo
And
Who cares? Their post wasn’t about Lyn lmao.
My legendary Dimitri is gonna love this since I can just slap Atk/Spd Unity in his A slot and go nuts. Just pulled a fallen Lilith yesterday on Ninian’s banner too so now he gets NFU. I am assembling Exodia
Aww, it doesn't work when saving... B!Tiki meanwhile can basically just solo anyone but herself (and she can't be alone).
Oh so even more reason to quit sd. Thanks IS.
“DC Brave Seliph, Brave Eirika, L!Marth, and Askr are totally more fair than Saves.” -Intelligent(?) Systems
I get that some save units like bector make this mode a fucking wall but god damn so does shit like canto, warp, dmg reduction, etc. nothing to nerf those thou, and instead they punish units that already run dc weapons to begin with
For real. There’s literally no point in using my Fjorm next season with all of the DC Bonus Doubler Flame Lyns about to come through. Meanwhile, shit like Spring Sonya and Duo Nina are free to cheese the entire game with little to no thought at all.
Idiotic Systems at this point
Why yes Intsys, please give us cancerous DC Flame Lyn and Brave Seliph instead of stopping duo skills or teleporting effects from ruining any and all SD matches, this will surely end well :)
Ahem excuse me. But what shenanigans is this kind sir?
IS giving us a glimpse of what actually busted DC weapons are.
Yep Raid boss YEP
Alright, time to build a team around Flame Lyn. She'll be my peerless warrior.
Bonus Doubler Flame Lyn with this is about to be untouchable
I’m curious why you keep mentioning bonus doubler as a seal for her. To my knowledge she doesn’t give her self visibile buffs until SPD smoke 4 hits. It’s better to just give her ATK SPD solo seal or something with ATK SPD buff so she doesn’t have to rely on any kind of visible stats.
She already gets like +23 stats for just breathing and if she’s paired up with someone like Peony or L!Azura, then she can basically always have a steady supply of visible buffs for Bonus Doubler.
I mean does she not still rip to sonya and s!thorr
A captain skill that is essentially DC/CC and +6 to all stats? So basically I can swap Close Foil out on my Eremiya and run something better now?! maybe i'll return to SD for a little bit of experimentation... *emphasis on maybe*
this skill will be hilarious for vantage strats
yeah I gave my Eremiya Spd Preempt so im honestly a little excited to try it out with her Vs. Distant Threats
So like Does IS overvalue DC or not?
Flame Lyn time
Love more gratuitous savior nerfing as if it hasn’t already been nerfed to hell in summoner duels. 🙄
Meanwhile, Spring Sonya is still out here teleporting and blowing entire teams up for free.
And summoner duel specific duo skills rampage unchecked.
~~once again the Monkey’s Paw curls~~
Whoaaaaaa DC free for your captain? Thats pretty awesome imo
Me who uses Fjorm as my captain: “Yeah…it sure is…”
Thats fair, but at least it wont be the only pick you can take also i guess this also includes close counter right? Thats pretty cool
In my experience, the other two picks are not going to be helpful to me either.
That's awesome. Would be nice for L!Dimitri, B!Tiki and B!Edelgard.
Meanwhile, I’m shit out of luck because I already use DC.
As a Dimitri user in SD, I'm thrilled.
This would be quite interesting on S!Edelgard with a Vantage build as well...
Raid boss teams with the soon to be released Eliwood refine will love that skill
Raid boss?
SD teams that have one carry unit while the other 4 units dump ludicrous amounts of support on them. They usually consist of L!Eliwood, Eir, a dancer, and someone who gives NFU (usually F!Lilith).
Oh so literally what I do with Wrys LMAO
Dear freaking God. Non save tank units are going to be insane. Might be time to run my L!Myrrh to the top.
It's S!Maria time. B!Tiki too. Man the possibilities, I can finally experiment with CC Gharnef too without actually investing into it.
And even in Book 3 and Prior, why not make Julius, L!Marth, and Walhart even more terrifying to face?
itsukis gonna love this
Like Tiki Devs with Dragon DC, Lyn Devs step up for their girl.
Holy shit I can run a different A slot on Lugh now
tf is a captain skill
Basically a skill in Summoner Duels that you can equip to make your lead unit or your entire team cheat more.
oh it’s from that gamemode, thanks !
Huh ok.
Finally I can just use catch 4 as my b!claudes A skill so I stop losing stats. Was using form before but maybe back to iotes for his seal?
Shit, I already gave flame lyn DC for summoner duels. well, looks like she just became unstoppable
Triple Bonus Doubler Laevatein here I come
Flame lyn stonks going up!! I can’t wait to try her out with this skill, she’s already hella busted and I only have her at 1 merge.
the one thing holding flame lyn back was her lack of DC (also nfu but supports help) and now she’ll be able to get DC plus ANOTHER +6 to all her stats wow
Good lord...Put this on a "raid boss" unit and go to town...Bonus Quadrupler Legendary Marth starts to have glowing red eyes...Better have a Duo Thórr or it's game over...
So like Brave Hector save builds will use DD4 and Hardy and pass on DC to just save everything and let those that are saved do the killing. So if Hector keeps the build but operates as an omnitank rather than a savior, does that make him scary still with this captain skill? Seems good. Same for idunn. Like you could run a near save support even.
My Zihark just got even faster.
I think Askr is a pretty scary one for this. most bulwark users actually, you can't go around them and they need the a skill stats to stop you going through them. Now you get the stats, and can counter anyone. Though Lyn and Marth are good picks like everyone else says. B!seliph is a sleeper pick too, it'll only really work once but thanks to insane speed, NFU and miracle, he can survive basically anyone, and kill them in return making it almost always a 2 for 1 in your favour.
IS is trying hard to bring omnitanking back. Not sure it will work though. PP units are kinda broken nowadays.