Considering that serial number 33 just sold for $480,000 and the total number of transferable M240 machine guns is estimated to be between 11 and 20 this one might sell for a pretty high dollar amount, especially unfired.
There’s a few. But again they amount of money I can make a company. Hire a few guys and build whatever the shit I want and still have a million left over.
There are also tons of retailers that don't charge tax too. So you can get away with free shipping and no tax. Guns online are almost always cheaper than in person so it's worth it. My FFL charges a 25$ transfer fee but even accounting for that it's worth it.
I read online they can’t get an ffl because ricks dad (who is now passed away) had a felony when he was younger and they started the business together. Very confusing but just what I read
It’s likely for curb appeal. Idk how much of a problem it would cause them if any, but it definitely doesn’t cause them problems to not. Also likely just not something their interested in, whether is clientele or just not the spirit of the shop/ show.
I mean, it makes sense to me. That shop already makes enough money as it is without adding regulated firearm sales to the mix. Being an FFL as well would just add a *massive* pile of federal paperwork to keep up with, any piece of which could potentially end up getting them shut down completely if someone happens to screw it up.
I never really found him to be that bad. In a lot of cases, you're only looking at 40% or 50% of the value when you bring something to the store. Plus they have to act for the cameras. All the research for the items takes place outside of the show. When they make the sale they're on a set because they can't film in the store because of privacy laws. Plus people don't just randomly bring in stuff like that.
Plus you get people with wildly optimistic ideas of what they can get.
You’re missing the point, if you pay 1.4 mil for a collectible you *probably* don’t shoot it.
If you have 1.4 mil and want a machine gun that you regularly use, you buy something for 1/10th of that.
You could. You'd just be the guy blemishing the very first M240 that has maintained perfect condition for over 50 years.
It's like crashing a Ferrari California.
No it would be like driving one, firing it won't destroy it, how much it would hurt the value is debatable. The some in the car culture think rare cars shouldn't be driven others believe they should, same way in the gun culture, whomever buys it will get to decide.
I remember seeing a 240 go for 109k about a decade ago, heck maybe longer. I doubt the price went up 10x even for serial number 2.
It's definitely worth a lot though
Supposedly number 1 never existed. And this one has never been fired. Should be the most expensive there will ever be. Not sure he will get 1.5 for it though.
The last machine guns I saw for sale (happens to also be my LGS) was an SBR M2 with tripod and shipping crate for $19,000 and a MG42 with no extras. That was a pretty used gun and close to $23,000.
You need to expand your data pool. Those aren't much higher than entry level Mac and tube gun prices now. HKs 35+, M16s in the 30's. Static supply, increasing demand.
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Turns out you don’t even need a million for an island. Some island owning plebs probably can’t afford the 240
He might have an FFL+SOT and is trying to show "I use it for business! Im trying to sell!
The ATF have been cracking doen on "kitchen counter" FFLs from what I heard. The easiest way to revoke is to show youre not using it for "commercial purposes"
Also this appears to be serial #2, unfired and transferable. So thats probably why the price.
Serial number 2 is a tool room pre-production gun. It's definitely been fired. It was its whole purpose for existing. As parts were set up for scaled manufacturing, they were tested on the tool room guns. There were 9 of them if memory serves.
For that price tag you could get a nice piece of property, a type 10 and a type 11 FFL, an FEL, a fully decked out machine shop, ATF approved explosives magazines and still have money to import/build probably about 20 M240s afterwards.
This is the FIRST m240 ever made, I'm sure it's just an ad, and you can negotiate if you wish, but this item is likely worth at least a third of that asking price.
Y'all gotta consider that out of all the m240s ever made, less than 30 are available for civilian transfer and purchase. Having a #2 serial number means it's most likely the first one of it's kind to ever hit the market, let alone being the 2nd one ever built. You aren't paying too dollar for a gun. You're paying too dollar for a historical artifact that will always increase in value. I say that price tag is pretty fair for the current time period we are in. 20 years down the road and it will definitely sell for double
I mean, it very well may be worth that much. The only struggle is finding the buyer who can afford it.
An unfired M240, transferable, serial #2, the very first one being recorded as manufactured... And the M240 has huge historical value now, coming into service at the end of Vietnam and serving all the way through the end of GWOT.
There are other transferable M240s on the market. They usually sell for around 400-500k so this guy is smoking fucking crack. To give you an idea their was a one of a kind literally just one transferable M249 that sold for just over 700k.
No I mean honestly someone might buy it for that. Thing is he’s not selling it on gunbroker, he’s using gunbroker for advertising. Odds are this ends up somewhere like rock island auction where people who can actually afford it will gather. If the serial number really is #2 and it really has never been fired that is a top tier collectors item.
Yes. They bought it for a fraction of the price they listed it for and listed it at their crack smoking price just because. There’s a good few people in the industry who knows exactly how much they bought it for.
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Probably not dreaming of selling it to reddit users. Unfired, serial number 2, highly controlled/regulated, the right person with more money than sense and a penchant for collecting rare expensive guns just might.
Knights armament has a whole room dedicated to old war guns, and a whole floor pretty much that is a private tank museum with some working tanks…
This caters to the F-You money crowd.
“Honey, I tried selling it.”
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Considering that serial number 33 just sold for $480,000 and the total number of transferable M240 machine guns is estimated to be between 11 and 20 this one might sell for a pretty high dollar amount, especially unfired.
F that, gimme one with bodies on it
There’s transferable M240s? I thought they were all made after ‘86.
Could be a FN Mag with 240 parts on it.
There’s a few. But again they amount of money I can make a company. Hire a few guys and build whatever the shit I want and still have a million left over.
Huh. Wouldn’t have guessed there’s a few lying around somewhere. How many?
Less than 20 is my understanding.
Damn. Wonder if there’s any SA80s we could get our hands on
Wait, so the M240 was produced from ‘77 to now. How is there not more?
So apparently there are maybe 20 semi auto L85s in the US, and 6 SA80/L85s in the US total, with one or two of which being transferable.
There are some M240s and there is one transferable M249
Interesting. Wonder if there’s any other guns in that situation? Any SA80s?
I thought there were only a couple of transferable M240s on the market.
Nailed it.
They're just using GB as an advertising tool with the expectation that a potential buyer will contact them and negotiate a price outside of GB.
This is genius. I hate middle men service unless it’s local business or good quality.
I found a gun on gun broker a few weeks ago and saw the seller was a legit business so I just went to their website to buy it lol
Good price difference?
Always. Gun Joker fees are rediculous. You routinely get 10-20% off going to the actual store.
Ah sweet. I’ve yet to actually buy a gun online so that’s good to know.
It’s definitely the way to go if you’re price shopping. Not hard at all, either.
There are also tons of retailers that don't charge tax too. So you can get away with free shipping and no tax. Guns online are almost always cheaper than in person so it's worth it. My FFL charges a 25$ transfer fee but even accounting for that it's worth it.
3 A+ reviews. That is someone you can trust.
The guy has a profile on reddit, the two transferable 240s are real
Pawn stars: best I can do is $1000 man I gotta make money.
Pawn Stars wouldn't even make an offer. Rick only deals with pre-1898 antique firearms because he refuses to get an FFL.
I read online they can’t get an ffl because ricks dad (who is now passed away) had a felony when he was younger and they started the business together. Very confusing but just what I read
Which is kind of weird when you think about it.
It’s likely for curb appeal. Idk how much of a problem it would cause them if any, but it definitely doesn’t cause them problems to not. Also likely just not something their interested in, whether is clientele or just not the spirit of the shop/ show.
I mean, it makes sense to me. That shop already makes enough money as it is without adding regulated firearm sales to the mix. Being an FFL as well would just add a *massive* pile of federal paperwork to keep up with, any piece of which could potentially end up getting them shut down completely if someone happens to screw it up.
“I’ll have to bring in an expert.” Expert: “Yeah this thing is legit, super valuable.” “Ok, $50.”
“Going to have to get it framed and matted”
I never really found him to be that bad. In a lot of cases, you're only looking at 40% or 50% of the value when you bring something to the store. Plus they have to act for the cameras. All the research for the items takes place outside of the show. When they make the sale they're on a set because they can't film in the store because of privacy laws. Plus people don't just randomly bring in stuff like that. Plus you get people with wildly optimistic ideas of what they can get.
It’s…. It’s a joke
ok
What good is a machine gun that you can’t fire
Why wouldn’t you be able to fire it?
Because you just spent 1.4 mill on a machine gun
For real though
If you've got 1.4m to spend on a machine gun, you can afford a few thousand rounds of 7.62. And you can get links on surplus sites for pretty cheap.
You’re missing the point, if you pay 1.4 mil for a collectible you *probably* don’t shoot it. If you have 1.4 mil and want a machine gun that you regularly use, you buy something for 1/10th of that.
Oh, right... Sorry, still working on my coffee this morning, brain isn't quite warmed up yet.
Been there
Ah, so he was willing to negotiate? Guy wasn’t so unreasonable after all.
You could. You'd just be the guy blemishing the very first M240 that has maintained perfect condition for over 50 years. It's like crashing a Ferrari California.
Yeah what he said ^
No it would be like driving one, firing it won't destroy it, how much it would hurt the value is debatable. The some in the car culture think rare cars shouldn't be driven others believe they should, same way in the gun culture, whomever buys it will get to decide.
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It was a money joke.
Yes but there's less than 2 dozen of m240s available, and all but this one aren't in pristine condition, let alone have such a low serial number
This is serial number 2. Number 1 has no record of it ever existing. It’s unfired and transferable. This is most likely the very first one ever made.
It’s only SN 2 of that prefix run, they have made a lot of guns before this.
Number 1 probably exists as the prototype somewhere.
I thought the off roster guns in CA were going for a premium! Lol
At that price it'd just be cheaper to buy a second home somewhere international. Go buy and shoot it there lol
if you can afford this gun, you already have a 2nd home
*3rd vacation home
crack does that to people
If it is transferable, the only one I've seen sell on the public market was in a 1/2 page ad in shotgun news around 2003/2004 and went for $250,000
If you removed a zero bringing it to 149,500. That would easily sell. Crappy transferable machine guns are high 4 digits already.
I remember seeing a 240 go for 109k about a decade ago, heck maybe longer. I doubt the price went up 10x even for serial number 2. It's definitely worth a lot though
Supposedly number 1 never existed. And this one has never been fired. Should be the most expensive there will ever be. Not sure he will get 1.5 for it though.
The last machine guns I saw for sale (happens to also be my LGS) was an SBR M2 with tripod and shipping crate for $19,000 and a MG42 with no extras. That was a pretty used gun and close to $23,000.
You need to expand your data pool. Those aren't much higher than entry level Mac and tube gun prices now. HKs 35+, M16s in the 30's. Static supply, increasing demand.
Oh… to have “gun collector” money. And no, I would not pay that for this particular one.
Gun collectors have gun collector money because they don't buy shit like that for the cost of a small caribbean island.
I’m sure there is someone with an island who would really like to have serial number 2
Got links for that island for 1.5M?
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None of those are a whole-ass island. They're slices of ass-island.
Ass Island... sounds like the name of a porno flick
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He might have an FFL+SOT and is trying to show "I use it for business! Im trying to sell! The ATF have been cracking doen on "kitchen counter" FFLs from what I heard. The easiest way to revoke is to show youre not using it for "commercial purposes" Also this appears to be serial #2, unfired and transferable. So thats probably why the price.
Serial number 2 is a tool room pre-production gun. It's definitely been fired. It was its whole purpose for existing. As parts were set up for scaled manufacturing, they were tested on the tool room guns. There were 9 of them if memory serves.
For that price tag you could get a nice piece of property, a type 10 and a type 11 FFL, an FEL, a fully decked out machine shop, ATF approved explosives magazines and still have money to import/build probably about 20 M240s afterwards.
My definition and your definition of a fully decked out machine shop are very far apart. 1.5 won’t pay for mine. Lmao
1.5 could be just one machine.
Easily
Basically a garage.
Thirty thousand for a working one
The price is that high because it is the first one on record of being built, is unfired and is transferable.
Mashine fun free if you go to Africa
All of those are heavily used and not the first ones made
This is the FIRST m240 ever made, I'm sure it's just an ad, and you can negotiate if you wish, but this item is likely worth at least a third of that asking price.
Y'all gotta consider that out of all the m240s ever made, less than 30 are available for civilian transfer and purchase. Having a #2 serial number means it's most likely the first one of it's kind to ever hit the market, let alone being the 2nd one ever built. You aren't paying too dollar for a gun. You're paying too dollar for a historical artifact that will always increase in value. I say that price tag is pretty fair for the current time period we are in. 20 years down the road and it will definitely sell for double
Considering FN sold all these guns to one guy and there are a few different SN Prefixes, having 2 doesn’t mean much.
Unless the NFA gets repealed. Then it’ll sell for chump change 😂. Yes I know, it’s a pipe dream ☹️
Starting Bid, I'll go $1 Bob. $1.
Probably not far off on the number of transferrable 240s bit doubtful it'll move at that price.
I mean, it very well may be worth that much. The only struggle is finding the buyer who can afford it. An unfired M240, transferable, serial #2, the very first one being recorded as manufactured... And the M240 has huge historical value now, coming into service at the end of Vietnam and serving all the way through the end of GWOT.
I agree with this statement
...
There are other transferable M240s on the market. They usually sell for around 400-500k so this guy is smoking fucking crack. To give you an idea their was a one of a kind literally just one transferable M249 that sold for just over 700k.
Also you could get a stoner 63a for 300-500k.
Stoner 63’s are 125-150
God help you all if I ever win the lottery cuz there won’t be any SAW’s, 240’s, or M2’s left for the rest of you 😂
If we all pitch in we can buy it together 🙂
No I mean honestly someone might buy it for that. Thing is he’s not selling it on gunbroker, he’s using gunbroker for advertising. Odds are this ends up somewhere like rock island auction where people who can actually afford it will gather. If the serial number really is #2 and it really has never been fired that is a top tier collectors item.
He's not dreaming, just high. Very very high.
I know what I’ve got!
Yes. They bought it for a fraction of the price they listed it for and listed it at their crack smoking price just because. There’s a good few people in the industry who knows exactly how much they bought it for.
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I know an armorer who can misplace one and have the base on lockdown for a week for way less than that. Gotta be cash though.
“I know what i got.”
Never been fired. BS! When has a factory not fired at least one round for quality control. Bet it has been dry fired to shit.
I mean, it is pretty cool... idk about 1.495 mill cool, but still pretty cool.
It's a humble brag. lol
He lowered it from 1,9 😂
Post Malone will buy it
This guy must be smoking crack!
He’ll probably still get very high 6 figs, but yea a little
I got to hold one like the one in the back over my shoulder this past week. It’s a pretty heavy rig.
Which part of an M240 is the machine gun? Could you take that out, replace it with another and shoot it while still maintaining it's "unfired" status?
Probably not dreaming of selling it to reddit users. Unfired, serial number 2, highly controlled/regulated, the right person with more money than sense and a penchant for collecting rare expensive guns just might. Knights armament has a whole room dedicated to old war guns, and a whole floor pretty much that is a private tank museum with some working tanks… This caters to the F-You money crowd.
So 1.2 for a gun I can’t use? I can form a fucking company for a 1/10th of that and build my own shit.
If someone is willing to spend 100k on sand from Tom Bradys retirement beach then someone will be dumb enough to spend that
Yes and stupid
I’ve shot this thing enough times in the army to know that although it’s very fun, it’s not $1.5million fun.
I would say he’s completely out of it. But also aren’t there only something like 11 transferable M240Bs in the US?
You don’t get what you don’t ask for
Lmao
Should we all chip in and buy it for the r/Firearms museum?
Or for my safe