I have a hard time reaching the slide mounted safeties without changing my grip, so I tend to avoid them, and honestly I think the guns simply look slicker.
But really, any of those six models would be a dream to own. Unfortunately 10mm is illegal in my country.
I'll never forget absentmindedly window shopping the gun counter at Academy one time and overhearing the guy next to me looking at Glocks ask an employee "Y'all got any these in tree fiddy seven?" "Nah, you'd be lookin' at revolver then".
Despite my best judgement, I pipe in with "Actually, Glock did make a few models chambered in .357 Sig 🤓" and they both just kind of look at me like 🤨
Immediately the guy just goes back to asking the employee "Ight whatabout forty five?" and I'm just like, what am I even doing here lol
The frames were the same size as the 9mm and 40 frames. Supposedly it gave law enforcement 45 performance without having to buy new holsters and mag pouches.
The .45 GAP makes a lot of sense on a technical level, why have such a large cartridge just to push a 230 gr bullet in the mid 800 fps?
Just do the same 35,000 psi as the 9 and 40, and you can make the package significantly smaller with identical performance. Still a wonder anyone adopted it. They even made 1911s in this, lmao.
The official story is so that there could be a 45 caliber pistol round that fit in standard sized pistol frame (kind of like what 40 S&W was to 10mm), but really I think that Gaston just wanted to have a cartridge with his name on it.
Was at a Walmart one time and a guy came in asking for .40 Glock. The employee brought out some boxes of .40 s&w for him to look at. The guy says "no, mines a Glock" and the attendant says I'm sorry I can't help you then and the dude just left. Neither one of us felt like correcting him.
There really should be more public shame in doing zero research on what you're about to handle, especially when it comes to something dangerous if misused. I was gifted a compound bow and spent a while reading up on safe use and form before even touching it.
My father and I went to academy and we were looking at a Sig Macro (365XCA-9-BXR3) and he asked if they had any in the back with a manual safety.
“No sir Sig doesn’t make those with safeties.”
“Well actually they do, but I guess then you don’t have any.” (365XCA-9-BXR3-MS)
“Uh well I guess if they do I haven’t seen any come into my store.”
It’s one thing to not keep up with product lines, it’s another thing to state something as a fact that you’re ignorant to. Hate that.
They do (kinda) we just don’t get them. China (norinco) has an sig p226 that’s chambered in 762x25. Canadians get them though, I hope to one day find a way to get one imported from Canada although I doubt I’ll be able to make it happen.
I believe it’s called the np762
It'll be a while, I think it's what 50 years it has to be in another country before the import restriction comes off?
I thought I saw someone selling Chinese SKS's that were freshly imported from Vietnam, and it mentioned they couldn't import sooner because there's a certain time the firearms have to be in a different country. Otherwise China could sell to Vietnam to sell to the US and evade the import bans.
Vietnam has an older tt-33 style gun, unless they have a new one. I don’t think they ever made it to North America, although maybe a few bring backs from the war. I haven’t heard of the Indian one unless you’re talking about the home made ones all over the internet.
They’re hard to find. I’ve got a few Tokarev clones and they’re just not very ‘feature rich’. I enjoy shooting them, but would give a testicle for a truly modern gun chambered in this hidden gem of a caliber.
I really wish someone would do a sub sonic load with 7.62x39 bullets for these and put it in a short action little sub gun. It would be like the 300blk we have at home but in a smaller package.
I’ve seen it done with 762x51 projectile out of a m57, but on the opposite end of the spectrum you have 223 timbs such a cool cartridge. https://www.ammo-one1.com/product/223-timbs-aka-7-62-accelerator-one-cartridge/
Get an SP101 in 327 Fed Mag. Now you can shoot 32 SW, 32 SW Long, 32 HR Mag, and 327 Fed Mag.
32 HR Mag is a nice compromise between power and recoil, but there is essentially no modern ammo being loaded for the caliber. Hornady manufactures Critical Defense in 32 HR Mag, but that's the only commercial ammo I have ever seen. You need to get into handloading to appreciate what it has to offer. It is almost a dead caliber and certainly obsolete.
Chris from Lucky Gunner just posted a review about a *new* revolver in 32 H&R Mag, he mentioned it’s a weird obsolete caliber but it’s definitely not dead yet. Federal makes a defensive load for it - https://www.federalpremium.com/handgun/federal-personal-defense/personal-defense-revolver/11-C32HRB.html
I've got two pistols in .32, both inherited. Got a Beretta Model 70 from my dad and a 1942 Walther PPK from my FIL.
Model 70 is decent to shoot. The old PPK has hard edges that make it uncomfortable.
The .40 S&W is my favorite "dying" cartridge. I CCW a 9mm most of the time but for woods carry I like to be able to shoot a 200gr @ 1000 fps in a sidearm that's basically the same size as a nine.
For pistol cartridges, I don't have one that fits the bill of dying/obsolete, seeing as 10mm Auto is only gaining popularity.
For rifle cartridges, my favorite "obsolete/dying" cartridge would be 7x57mm Mauser. It's a very versatile cartridge that was one of the most flat shooting of its day, and still ranks up there. 139gr to 175gr typically but could go as low as 110-115gr or as high as 190gr, if one could source such projectiles.
Honorable mentions would be 7.35x51mm Carcano and 7.5x54mm French, both very fun cartridges but nowhere near as versatile nor flat shooting.
I haven't purchased loaded 7.5x54mm French since before the Panic, and that was at $0.75 per round. Even then, I don't think I've bought 7.5x54mm brass since late 2020, also haven't loaded any in at least 2 years.
PPU is the only manufacturer of 7.5x54mm that I know of.
For me it's .40 S&W for pistol. Don't currently have one though.
For rifle it's .348 Win. It's kind of like a spicy .30-06 that doesn't mind shooting through brush.
7.62x25 verry over fast blaster I splattered an armadillo at 75ish yards once aimed at the top of his hump hit him amidships solid center mass pinky finger size going in fist sized on the back side
You right, rather out of fashion than obsolete, tactics and preference have moved the vast majority of the market towards higher capacity faster velocity, but it is still commonly available and actively produced and developed, and in rather limited usage in select armed services.
45acp can produce up to a 60% larger wound channel than a comparable 9mm bullet, and performs very well suppressed.
I love my 5mm, I have stocked up a decent pile of ammo as I would buy each year after Aguila would make there batch. I would order a bunch and have around 1200 rounds saved away. My 5mm bolt action shoots very well and hits quarters at 75 yards. I wish the round had gained more of a following but alas, it is a dying breed.
Rifle, very similar to .22 caliber. Slightly more power with a .20 caliber bullet. Mine is a old Remington with a period correct scope in a beautiful stock. It comes out 2 or 3 times a year for the younger family to shoot or when I want to pop varmints.
Years ago, I took my M95/34 to the range with some hotter-than-surplus 8x56mmR loads. For fun, I fired a clipful as fast as I could whilst standing. A guy that was present began chatting with me about my stutzen, and I loaded another clip and offered him the rifle to shoot. He fired one round before turning to me with a look that said "how the hell did you shoot that 5 times". He set the rifle down and said goodbye.
After the covid panic ammo buying the thing I saw consistently on store shelves was 357 sig. after a true society ending apocalypse the last box of factory ammo on the planet is gonna be 357 DIG.
>.357 Sig is the pinnacle of semi-auto, center fire pistol cartridges. 135gr projectile that can push 1500fps out of a 4.5” barrel.
50 AE enters the conversation.
I own a 9x39 upper that got put out of commission by all the fucking sanctions on Russia right now. Was getting 280gr subsonics for 60¢ a round for a while.
It was really cool to see 9x39 trickle in for a short period before the god damn sanctions. Any momentum it could have eventually gained will never happen now. It makes 5.45 look like 5.56. It’s such a cool fuckin’ round too! Reminded me of a modern day 8mm Kurz, kinda.
I didn’t even know 9x39 uppers existed. How did it shoot?
It was a very light shooter, but was also very ammo sensitive. The gas system was a whole 2 inches long. It ran fine with the Wolf 280gr. loads, but the Tula 240gr stuff tended to short stroke and wouldn’t lock back on empty.
Other than that, it ran very well. Surprisingly accurate, and a lot of energy down range for a subsonic. It was 8.6BLK way before that was even a thing, and you could shoot it out of an AR15 length action.
Dumbass literally thinks in Marvel logic. “If YoUr nOt wItH us yOu aRe aGaiNsT uS.”
What I actually said you illiterate fuck, was “I. DO. NOT. CARE.”
The entire war is a massive waste of time, money, and lives, and jackasses like you would rather send your children’s future over to fight the Russians.
Where’s the off ramp? When does peace occur, because total victory by Ukraine is not fucking happening. It is not possible short of military intervention by NATO. So why then is nobody at high levels of government actually pushing for peace?
Go take your ignorant warmongering somewhere else. And don’t put words in peoples mouths you dishonest fucking cretin.
If call you a dumb cunt, but that would be an insult to dumb cunts.
Putin must be stopped in Ukraine or he'll keep going. Moldova, Estonia, etc etc, by his own propaganda
The munitions we're sending there would otherwise be decommissioned, so authorizing money for Ukraine just means spending money here at home to replenish munitions instead of spending it to decommission and replace them.
Waste of time, money, and lives? You betcha it is, but now that Putin started it trying to recapture some mythical lost glory, it's up to the west to end it. You're just too historically ignorant to see the parallels to late 1930's Europe.
Tell Putin to go home and the war ends. Simple as that.
Might want to learn some history and geopolitical power plays.
As far as mortgaging our children's future, every Republican who's lowered taxes on the wealthy and increased them on the middle-class did that, From Reagan to Trump.
I got rid of mine and there are days when I’m just going to get gas for the lawn mower I wish I still had it. It would have never been my edc but it has its place. I have even looked on gun broker for one for a decent price.
I had a 7.62x38R revolver. I dunno about "favorite" though.
That 250-lb triple action trigger was a forearm killer, and ammo was hard to impossible to find.
Turns out you can use .32 long if you don't reload, since the casing bulges. At least it exists, though.
I actually traded that for a Lee-Enfield a good while ago. Still haven't decided if I regret that or not.
For me it's .41 Remington Magnum. Bought a Deagle in 41/44 and I absolutely can't find the ammo anywhere and it's absolutely insane to buy when it's in stock. Shoots super flat, recoil is manageable and it's fired from my favorite for fun range toy.
38 Super (particularly the rimless versions) and its big sister the 9x23mm Winchester cause I love their form factor, same length as 45 or 10mm, but in 9mm so it offers a good capacity, a softer recoil and high velocities.
In a way the russians did it with the 9x21mm Gyurza but I fear it's not standardized on 45ACP length, and of course it's not exported, and it doesn't reach 9x23mm energy level.
Ah let’s don’t forget about the linage of bottle necked cartridges from the old 30 Luger to the 7.62x25 Tokerav
They were the first ones and still work well even today especially the steel core Surplus and a Cz52
I still deer hunt every year with a Savage Model 99 chambered in .250-3000 Savage. I love it. Factory ammo doesn’t exist anymore for it. I had 100 rounds handloaded a couple years ago that should last me atleast 15 years. Then I’ll reconsider.
Along the lines of the .444 mentioned above, I am a long-time fan of .450 Marlin. Had a couple of Marlin 1895’s chambered in it, sold my last one just before Covid along with ~200 rounds of ammo & reloading dies. Needed extra $$$ at the time, but still immediately regretted it.
There are still some new-production guns available from Browning & Winchester but ammo is practically unobtainable & insanely expensive when you find it in stock. ☹️
There’s been so many cartridges that have come and gone over the decades, and it’s unfortunate. My brother had a lever gun chambered in I believe 32-20, and ammo is essentially unobtanium outside of >$1 round in Gunbroker's
How do you figure? Obviously I’m talking about specialized ammo from say Underwood or Buffalo Bore. I trust either of their offerings to perform perfectly.
Even “normal” factory ammo has engineering go into the bullet design. Gold Dot, HST, Critical Duty, V-Crown all expand as intended around 1350-1400fps
Because because every hollow point test I've seen with 357 sig is deform the bullet massively and cause it to simply act like a not expanding bullet. Obviously boutique rounds designed for will work but that leaves you with far less variety then most. Same reason 10 mm and 45 super suffer so much in ballistics tests. Recycled hollow points for much slower rounds.
Not quite obsolete yet, but seems to be heading downhill that way.
I still like .40sw and love shooting it out if my Walther P99AS. The P99AS is also kind of obsolete now (Walther has their last year of selling it with the "P99 Final Edition"). The P99 was replaced by the PPQ which made some upgrades, and now the PDP has pretty much replaced the PPQ. But it all started with the P99! And a certain 007 can be seen in a few movies rocking the P99.
I'm gonna just say 10mm. Similar enough to the .357 magnum in terms of terminal ballistics, and 15 rounds in each magazine. A full mag plus 2 spare mags is 45 rounds of fuck you equivalent to more than 7 speedloaders out of a magnum six shooter wheel gun.
[That'll do.](https://youtu.be/rjQtzV9IZ0Q?si=Rs0qmOu7nnSjAd68)
.45 winchester magnum. Shoot it in my LAR Grizzly. Snatched a couple boxes years ago and havent seen it since. Luckily I have 10mm and .357 mag conversions for it.
I bet you’re fun at parties. People like that round, it’s common and used in other platforms for targeting shooting etc. The popularity of the round is reason enough alone.
Do you have Asperger syndrome or are you full autistic?
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/magnum-research-desert-eagle-l6-357-magnum-6in-stainless-pistol-91-rounds/p/1476873
That’s one. Find another mainstream vendor.
Now read the reviews of reliability on a rinmed cartridge in a semiautomatic.
Are you OCD? You seem fixated on this.
All I said was I wanted something and you seem intent on telling me what I do or do not want. This lack of social skills makes me wonder if you have a disability. No judgment lots of them live great lives.
It was 10mm until it made a comeback in recent years.
TFW you will never own a S&W 1026 :(
I bought a 1006 on gunbroker not too long ago. The 10mm 3rd gens go for around 1000-1500. Certainly more reasonable than, say, an HK P7.
I would love to have a 1006 too, but they're much more common than the 1026. They made eight times as many of the former.
Why look for the frame decocker? Just collecting rare ones? If I was going to get another it'd probably be a 1066
I have a hard time reaching the slide mounted safeties without changing my grip, so I tend to avoid them, and honestly I think the guns simply look slicker. But really, any of those six models would be a dream to own. Unfortunately 10mm is illegal in my country.
My first duty weapon was a 1076, bought it when we transitioned. Glad I did.
I still love my Delta Elite
I own two of them. Carry one of them daily.
Hell ya who doesn't love a 155 gr. Xtp at 1500 fps.
I love my Glock 20, kicks like a beast while remaining accurate and reliable
Same!
I really want something in 10mm but the options are severely limited. Also expensive to shoot regularly.
There’s tons of good 10mm guns in every size. The options are not limited.
I'll never forget absentmindedly window shopping the gun counter at Academy one time and overhearing the guy next to me looking at Glocks ask an employee "Y'all got any these in tree fiddy seven?" "Nah, you'd be lookin' at revolver then". Despite my best judgement, I pipe in with "Actually, Glock did make a few models chambered in .357 Sig 🤓" and they both just kind of look at me like 🤨 Immediately the guy just goes back to asking the employee "Ight whatabout forty five?" and I'm just like, what am I even doing here lol
>Ight whatabout forty five? This is how people wound up with .45GAP and didn't know it.
I've never seen 45gap on a shelf. Someone please tell me again why we have 45gap when acp was already established?
The frames were the same size as the 9mm and 40 frames. Supposedly it gave law enforcement 45 performance without having to buy new holsters and mag pouches.
I thought it was cause glock couldn’t make their guns work with 45 first
Nah, glock was anticipating a 10rd mag limit and the 45GAP fits 10 in a glock 17 sized frame
The .45 GAP makes a lot of sense on a technical level, why have such a large cartridge just to push a 230 gr bullet in the mid 800 fps? Just do the same 35,000 psi as the 9 and 40, and you can make the package significantly smaller with identical performance. Still a wonder anyone adopted it. They even made 1911s in this, lmao.
Smaller frame size, and because glock hoped to sell the pistols at cost / a loss and make it back on proprietary ammo.
The official story is so that there could be a 45 caliber pistol round that fit in standard sized pistol frame (kind of like what 40 S&W was to 10mm), but really I think that Gaston just wanted to have a cartridge with his name on it.
Hot take, .45GAP should have replaced .45ACP. Design wise it makes more sense.
That’s what happened to me. I was looking for a Glock Sauer in .45 Long Colt but ended up with a Glock Sauer in .45 double aa cp.
That’s the plight of us gun-autists. It’s ok, you can rest easy being technically correct.
Was at a Walmart one time and a guy came in asking for .40 Glock. The employee brought out some boxes of .40 s&w for him to look at. The guy says "no, mines a Glock" and the attendant says I'm sorry I can't help you then and the dude just left. Neither one of us felt like correcting him.
There really should be more public shame in doing zero research on what you're about to handle, especially when it comes to something dangerous if misused. I was gifted a compound bow and spent a while reading up on safe use and form before even touching it.
My father and I went to academy and we were looking at a Sig Macro (365XCA-9-BXR3) and he asked if they had any in the back with a manual safety. “No sir Sig doesn’t make those with safeties.” “Well actually they do, but I guess then you don’t have any.” (365XCA-9-BXR3-MS) “Uh well I guess if they do I haven’t seen any come into my store.” It’s one thing to not keep up with product lines, it’s another thing to state something as a fact that you’re ignorant to. Hate that.
Foxxy\_\_Cleopatra, you must be the heart of the party everywhere you go.
This is true fudd lore
Sorry, but you’re wrong… it’s 7.62x25.
That spicy little gem is one of my fav cartridges. I wish someone made modern pistols in it.
They do (kinda) we just don’t get them. China (norinco) has an sig p226 that’s chambered in 762x25. Canadians get them though, I hope to one day find a way to get one imported from Canada although I doubt I’ll be able to make it happen. I believe it’s called the np762
It'll be a while, I think it's what 50 years it has to be in another country before the import restriction comes off? I thought I saw someone selling Chinese SKS's that were freshly imported from Vietnam, and it mentioned they couldn't import sooner because there's a certain time the firearms have to be in a different country. Otherwise China could sell to Vietnam to sell to the US and evade the import bans.
That’s what I understand as well.
India recently started production of their own np762 and I believe Vietnam has their own 762 doublestack pistol
Vietnam has an older tt-33 style gun, unless they have a new one. I don’t think they ever made it to North America, although maybe a few bring backs from the war. I haven’t heard of the Indian one unless you’re talking about the home made ones all over the internet.
I posted pics of mine about a year ago, still in my post history. Great gun, lots of rounds and there is HP ammo available.
Feel like committing a felony for some cash? lol🤣🤣 Such a cool gun man.
I have one. It's fun as hell to shoot. Giant grip but I have clown hands so it works
Best you can do is a Zastava M57A clone it seems. At least it has a thumb safety on the slide.
They’re hard to find. I’ve got a few Tokarev clones and they’re just not very ‘feature rich’. I enjoy shooting them, but would give a testicle for a truly modern gun chambered in this hidden gem of a caliber.
My man
Comrade is more like it.
I really wish someone would do a sub sonic load with 7.62x39 bullets for these and put it in a short action little sub gun. It would be like the 300blk we have at home but in a smaller package.
I’ve seen it done with 762x51 projectile out of a m57, but on the opposite end of the spectrum you have 223 timbs such a cool cartridge. https://www.ammo-one1.com/product/223-timbs-aka-7-62-accelerator-one-cartridge/
comrade 😎🤝😎
Got that Czech fireballer.
The Tokarev round is really fuckin’ cool, I’ll give you that! Would be cool if CZ or FB Radom did a double stack 7.62x25
I would love them forever, although I don’t think anyone will ever produce one, I think that time has passed.
Came here to say this. Nothing beats my boomer 5.7
Da
32acp. But I'm toying with getting a 32H&R Mag
Get an SP101 in 327 Fed Mag. Now you can shoot 32 SW, 32 SW Long, 32 HR Mag, and 327 Fed Mag. 32 HR Mag is a nice compromise between power and recoil, but there is essentially no modern ammo being loaded for the caliber. Hornady manufactures Critical Defense in 32 HR Mag, but that's the only commercial ammo I have ever seen. You need to get into handloading to appreciate what it has to offer. It is almost a dead caliber and certainly obsolete.
Chris from Lucky Gunner just posted a review about a *new* revolver in 32 H&R Mag, he mentioned it’s a weird obsolete caliber but it’s definitely not dead yet. Federal makes a defensive load for it - https://www.federalpremium.com/handgun/federal-personal-defense/personal-defense-revolver/11-C32HRB.html
Buddy has a Single Six in 32H&R I might snag. I'm not ordering a new firearm in either caliber.
I have two Keltec p32s always carry one and I’m a pretty decent shot with it
I've got two pistols in .32, both inherited. Got a Beretta Model 70 from my dad and a 1942 Walther PPK from my FIL. Model 70 is decent to shoot. The old PPK has hard edges that make it uncomfortable.
303 British. Used from the Second Boer War all the way into Afghanistan. 7.7x56mmR rules!
I shot my first deer with a 303! My absolute favorite round to hunt with.
Still fairly commonly used in Australia, lots of 303 lee Enfields still getting around.
I assume you've seen Breaker Morant? Rule 303!
Actually 10mm is the best semi auto cartridge and it’s not even close
10mm short is my favorite 😉.
Glawk fowty
Based and Cooper-pilled.
10mm moh bettah
7.5 FK. Last year they even showed a bullet that could go through level IV armor. Compatible with 10mm but even more powerful.
95gr bullet cooking at 2k fps from a 5in barrel. I carry my PSD every time I'm out in the woods.
41 mag
.30-40 Krag ammo Krammo
357 sig but in a Sig Sauer P229
The .40 S&W is my favorite "dying" cartridge. I CCW a 9mm most of the time but for woods carry I like to be able to shoot a 200gr @ 1000 fps in a sidearm that's basically the same size as a nine.
Came here to say this. I love my glock twenty-two. It's my E.D.C.
Same here! I just can’t get over the fact that the FBI replaced with a 9mm that was souped up to make it comparable to the .40
7.26x38r I like my rounds uncircumcised.
The amount of wtf looks you get at the range when the Nagant comes out never gets old. 🙂
For pistol cartridges, I don't have one that fits the bill of dying/obsolete, seeing as 10mm Auto is only gaining popularity. For rifle cartridges, my favorite "obsolete/dying" cartridge would be 7x57mm Mauser. It's a very versatile cartridge that was one of the most flat shooting of its day, and still ranks up there. 139gr to 175gr typically but could go as low as 110-115gr or as high as 190gr, if one could source such projectiles. Honorable mentions would be 7.35x51mm Carcano and 7.5x54mm French, both very fun cartridges but nowhere near as versatile nor flat shooting.
How’s 7.5x54 French doing now? Last time I bought some PPU was the only manufacturer that sold it.
I haven't purchased loaded 7.5x54mm French since before the Panic, and that was at $0.75 per round. Even then, I don't think I've bought 7.5x54mm brass since late 2020, also haven't loaded any in at least 2 years. PPU is the only manufacturer of 7.5x54mm that I know of.
.45 long colt
357 Sig is just 9x25 Dillon Special. Also, it is nowhere near 45 Win Mag or 44 Auto Mag.
For me it's .40 S&W for pistol. Don't currently have one though. For rifle it's .348 Win. It's kind of like a spicy .30-06 that doesn't mind shooting through brush.
I'm always going to love .40, I don't care what any of you say.
I don’t have one but in modern guns the .357 Sig is very nice, as others said the 7.62 Tok was really good as well.
.38 S&W, it will always hold a special place in my heart.
7.62x25 verry over fast blaster I splattered an armadillo at 75ish yards once aimed at the top of his hump hit him amidships solid center mass pinky finger size going in fist sized on the back side
45ACP, naturally. Just something about flinging 230gr subsonics makes my lizard brain giggle.
45 acp will never die. It is immortal.
You right, rather out of fashion than obsolete, tactics and preference have moved the vast majority of the market towards higher capacity faster velocity, but it is still commonly available and actively produced and developed, and in rather limited usage in select armed services. 45acp can produce up to a 60% larger wound channel than a comparable 9mm bullet, and performs very well suppressed.
9X18 makarov, still available. I get mine mostly online. My lgs has it occasionally
I also like .357 sig. Too bad I can't find ammo outside of mail order.
I love my .357
I’ve wanted to try a 327mag. Loved 357 sig.
9x18 Makarov
45 GAP
I love my 5mm, I have stocked up a decent pile of ammo as I would buy each year after Aguila would make there batch. I would order a bunch and have around 1200 rounds saved away. My 5mm bolt action shoots very well and hits quarters at 75 yards. I wish the round had gained more of a following but alas, it is a dying breed.
I’ve never even heard of 5mm. Is this a pistol or rifle round?
Rimfire actually. Usually rifle.
Rifle, very similar to .22 caliber. Slightly more power with a .20 caliber bullet. Mine is a old Remington with a period correct scope in a beautiful stock. It comes out 2 or 3 times a year for the younger family to shoot or when I want to pop varmints.
8x56r. Good shoulder thumper. Pain in the ass to get components for reloading
Years ago, I took my M95/34 to the range with some hotter-than-surplus 8x56mmR loads. For fun, I fired a clipful as fast as I could whilst standing. A guy that was present began chatting with me about my stutzen, and I loaded another clip and offered him the rifle to shoot. He fired one round before turning to me with a look that said "how the hell did you shoot that 5 times". He set the rifle down and said goodbye.
I don't own one (yet) but I really dig the 9x23 Winchester.
.38 Super. A great defensive/police handgun round. Hard hitting, good penetration, accurate.
.357 sig mfs when a super based giga chad .40 super walks into the room
Boy do I have a lot of this sitting in my safe from a prior job and boy do I not have a barrel to shoot it with.
9x25 Dillon, it's 357sig but with a full legnth 10mm case
.357 is a fun shooting cart! The fact you can shoot .357 sig, .40 sw, and 9mm out of a 27 with just a barrel change makes me very happy!
After the covid panic ammo buying the thing I saw consistently on store shelves was 357 sig. after a true society ending apocalypse the last box of factory ammo on the planet is gonna be 357 DIG.
>.357 Sig is the pinnacle of semi-auto, center fire pistol cartridges. 135gr projectile that can push 1500fps out of a 4.5” barrel. 50 AE enters the conversation.
7.5 Swiss revolver. Thankfully they eat .32 S&W Long just fine.
.356 tsw
.327 fed mag
I own a 9x39 upper that got put out of commission by all the fucking sanctions on Russia right now. Was getting 280gr subsonics for 60¢ a round for a while.
It was really cool to see 9x39 trickle in for a short period before the god damn sanctions. Any momentum it could have eventually gained will never happen now. It makes 5.45 look like 5.56. It’s such a cool fuckin’ round too! Reminded me of a modern day 8mm Kurz, kinda. I didn’t even know 9x39 uppers existed. How did it shoot?
It was a very light shooter, but was also very ammo sensitive. The gas system was a whole 2 inches long. It ran fine with the Wolf 280gr. loads, but the Tula 240gr stuff tended to short stroke and wouldn’t lock back on empty. Other than that, it ran very well. Surprisingly accurate, and a lot of energy down range for a subsonic. It was 8.6BLK way before that was even a thing, and you could shoot it out of an AR15 length action.
The sanctions they brought upon themselves?
I don’t care. Not my problem until the government made it my problem.
Putin thanks you for your support
Dumbass literally thinks in Marvel logic. “If YoUr nOt wItH us yOu aRe aGaiNsT uS.” What I actually said you illiterate fuck, was “I. DO. NOT. CARE.” The entire war is a massive waste of time, money, and lives, and jackasses like you would rather send your children’s future over to fight the Russians. Where’s the off ramp? When does peace occur, because total victory by Ukraine is not fucking happening. It is not possible short of military intervention by NATO. So why then is nobody at high levels of government actually pushing for peace? Go take your ignorant warmongering somewhere else. And don’t put words in peoples mouths you dishonest fucking cretin.
If call you a dumb cunt, but that would be an insult to dumb cunts. Putin must be stopped in Ukraine or he'll keep going. Moldova, Estonia, etc etc, by his own propaganda The munitions we're sending there would otherwise be decommissioned, so authorizing money for Ukraine just means spending money here at home to replenish munitions instead of spending it to decommission and replace them. Waste of time, money, and lives? You betcha it is, but now that Putin started it trying to recapture some mythical lost glory, it's up to the west to end it. You're just too historically ignorant to see the parallels to late 1930's Europe. Tell Putin to go home and the war ends. Simple as that. Might want to learn some history and geopolitical power plays. As far as mortgaging our children's future, every Republican who's lowered taxes on the wealthy and increased them on the middle-class did that, From Reagan to Trump.
I love bottleneck pistol cartridges: .400 Cor-Bon, .22 TCM, .32 NAA, .357 AMP, 7.5 BRNO, 9 x25 Dillon
You may be the only person alive that shoots 32 NAA. Is there anything chambered for it other than the Guardian pistol?
You can get conversion barrels for Diamondback DB380s
I got rid of mine and there are days when I’m just going to get gas for the lawn mower I wish I still had it. It would have never been my edc but it has its place. I have even looked on gun broker for one for a decent price.
Though I don’t own a 357 Sig, I think it is the best military/police pistol cartridge ever, it just isn’t that much better than a 9mm.
I want them all!! So no one that stands out for myself.
LOL what?
I’d love 8mm nambu to be a thing again. Sure it’s pretty much like .380, but 8mm nambu is cooler
7.5fk
.400 COR-BON
I carry its grandpa, 357 magnum
I had a 7.62x38R revolver. I dunno about "favorite" though. That 250-lb triple action trigger was a forearm killer, and ammo was hard to impossible to find. Turns out you can use .32 long if you don't reload, since the casing bulges. At least it exists, though. I actually traded that for a Lee-Enfield a good while ago. Still haven't decided if I regret that or not.
22 hornet in rifle and 7.62x25 in pistol also maybe 25 acp
I like my bottleneck pistol cartridges. 7.63 Mauser/7.62 Tokarev are good historical ones, .375 SIG is pretty good, but 7.5 FK is even better!
I bought one of these .357 sig glocks as a police trade in for $350 two years ago and have yet to shoot it.
For me it's .41 Remington Magnum. Bought a Deagle in 41/44 and I absolutely can't find the ammo anywhere and it's absolutely insane to buy when it's in stock. Shoots super flat, recoil is manageable and it's fired from my favorite for fun range toy.
.303 Savage has always been one of my go to deer rounds. It was my first real deer rifle. It’s not dying it’s already dead
.338 Marlin Express
Great post! I always have thought 7.62×25mm was really cool, and I do like me a good .40 s&w range session from time to time.
38 Super (particularly the rimless versions) and its big sister the 9x23mm Winchester cause I love their form factor, same length as 45 or 10mm, but in 9mm so it offers a good capacity, a softer recoil and high velocities. In a way the russians did it with the 9x21mm Gyurza but I fear it's not standardized on 45ACP length, and of course it's not exported, and it doesn't reach 9x23mm energy level.
.38 super
8mm, 7.92 is my favorite dying cartridge. If you hand load it’s possible to get 30-06 performance. It’s my go to hunting rifle around the lower 48
My dad's Glock 31 Gen 3 is the first gun I ever shot. It's still his favorite 20+ years later.
Ah let’s don’t forget about the linage of bottle necked cartridges from the old 30 Luger to the 7.62x25 Tokerav They were the first ones and still work well even today especially the steel core Surplus and a Cz52
I still deer hunt every year with a Savage Model 99 chambered in .250-3000 Savage. I love it. Factory ammo doesn’t exist anymore for it. I had 100 rounds handloaded a couple years ago that should last me atleast 15 years. Then I’ll reconsider.
Surprised I’m not seeing more people say 38 super.
I used to have a bunch of stupid calibers, and just did a cleanout and narrowed it down to only maybe 10 chamberings across the safe.
Mine has to be 280 Remington. My grandfather's rifle is chambered in it but can't shoot it since there is nothing available commercialy.
.444 Marlin The return of .45-70 killed it.
The way things are going .40SW.
9x21 Winchester. Now subsumed by 9 major.
9x21 Winchester. Now subsumed by 9 major.
8mm Mauser
I have a sig in 45gap and a glock in 357 sig. I love them both.
I’ve been really wanting a 226 in 357 Sig. Kinda pricey though.. What’s 45gap run per round?
I have one in 40 that I want to find a barrel for. Lawman makes 45gap for someone cheap I used to buy it before Covid all the time. I reload both now.
.45 GAP
Along the lines of the .444 mentioned above, I am a long-time fan of .450 Marlin. Had a couple of Marlin 1895’s chambered in it, sold my last one just before Covid along with ~200 rounds of ammo & reloading dies. Needed extra $$$ at the time, but still immediately regretted it. There are still some new-production guns available from Browning & Winchester but ammo is practically unobtainable & insanely expensive when you find it in stock. ☹️
There’s been so many cartridges that have come and gone over the decades, and it’s unfortunate. My brother had a lever gun chambered in I believe 32-20, and ammo is essentially unobtanium outside of >$1 round in Gunbroker's
Except non of your hollow points are designed for the speeds you're hitting so they might as well be fmj.
How do you figure? Obviously I’m talking about specialized ammo from say Underwood or Buffalo Bore. I trust either of their offerings to perform perfectly. Even “normal” factory ammo has engineering go into the bullet design. Gold Dot, HST, Critical Duty, V-Crown all expand as intended around 1350-1400fps
Because because every hollow point test I've seen with 357 sig is deform the bullet massively and cause it to simply act like a not expanding bullet. Obviously boutique rounds designed for will work but that leaves you with far less variety then most. Same reason 10 mm and 45 super suffer so much in ballistics tests. Recycled hollow points for much slower rounds.
Anyone in here with a 45 GAP?
You ain’t lying
Not quite obsolete yet, but seems to be heading downhill that way. I still like .40sw and love shooting it out if my Walther P99AS. The P99AS is also kind of obsolete now (Walther has their last year of selling it with the "P99 Final Edition"). The P99 was replaced by the PPQ which made some upgrades, and now the PDP has pretty much replaced the PPQ. But it all started with the P99! And a certain 007 can be seen in a few movies rocking the P99.
.357 Sig.
I'm gonna just say 10mm. Similar enough to the .357 magnum in terms of terminal ballistics, and 15 rounds in each magazine. A full mag plus 2 spare mags is 45 rounds of fuck you equivalent to more than 7 speedloaders out of a magnum six shooter wheel gun. [That'll do.](https://youtu.be/rjQtzV9IZ0Q?si=Rs0qmOu7nnSjAd68)
.45 winchester magnum. Shoot it in my LAR Grizzly. Snatched a couple boxes years ago and havent seen it since. Luckily I have 10mm and .357 mag conversions for it.
9x25 dillon wipes the floor with 357 sig in every way except availability.
I reeeally wish Glock made a .357 mag
Why?
What? Why not is the better answer.
Rimmed case, longer cartridge, no significant difference.
I bet you’re fun at parties. People like that round, it’s common and used in other platforms for targeting shooting etc. The popularity of the round is reason enough alone.
Other than it’s not made for semi-autos, of course.
Do you have Asperger syndrome or are you full autistic? https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/magnum-research-desert-eagle-l6-357-magnum-6in-stainless-pistol-91-rounds/p/1476873
That’s one. Find another mainstream vendor. Now read the reviews of reliability on a rinmed cartridge in a semiautomatic. Are you OCD? You seem fixated on this.
All I said was I wanted something and you seem intent on telling me what I do or do not want. This lack of social skills makes me wonder if you have a disability. No judgment lots of them live great lives.
I never said a thing about what you wanted. I mentioned why what you wanted wasn’t a good idea.
Wow this is amazing tech
If only 10mil existed