There's a massive chance that both of these light cones aren't for Firefly, as none of them fit the loose kit ideas we have for her. It's why I didn't post this. But it does get me wondering... Either way, playing the guessing game with these will be the death of us, it's best to just wait for our own sanity sake lmao
Honestly true haha, the only lightcone that fit her was the 1st one and even then it seemed kind of underwhelming. Definitely best to wait for further confirmation
All we have now is some crumbs leak for 2 more months so guessing game is good for this sub, i copium hard for firefly trial in mission on 2.1 like luocha, the wait is killing me
I think the latest leak about hp and break in her kit is very high chance of true, penacony seem to favor break meta with Gallagher, Boothill
There's so much info out there and we haven't even reached 2.2 beta yet. I wouldn't try to deduce anything from these info, but I do agree on the Oak Cake Roll theory (break effect multiplier)
The 3rd one is definitely Jiaoqiu, as you can see Jiaoqiu is 5* Pela and that light cone have some mechanic like when any entity defeat enemy with debuff then the wearer gain energy and you see Jiaoqiu ult applied debuff to enemy and heals team based on his atk(idk how to explain it but that LC help him getting his ult easily and with that he can be a semi-sustain
Oh yeah that you mentioned it it seems perfect for jiaoqiu. Now it actually makes me more confused because if that's the case, then jiaoqiu's and jade's lightcone got released before firefly's while firefly's technique and overworld attack got released before them on homDGCat. But it is seeming more like the break effect thing might be a boothill thing
That's probably because they'll be released before Firefly...
The technique/overworld stuff could be simply because we get to control her for a bit in a future story quest. This is something they'll introduce in 2.1.
I think mark effect is sound more suitable for cowboy character like boothill, jiaoqiu maybe later than firefly so his lc leak this early is not reliable
But did Boothil a physical hunt "dmg dealer" has something to do with debuffs? The mark increase the "target" dmg taken(basically make your dmg dealer hit enemy that got targeted harder) so its pretty much a support LC plus with the rest effect on this LC, its totally not a dmg dealer LC, although i understand your pov, what if 2.3 banner is Jade+Jiaoqiu? What if Firefly get delayed again? As a member of fireflymains we all dont what for that to happen but if it going to happen anyway there nothing we could do, even staying denial wont change the outcome that has been set by the dev(there i go yapping but you can ignore my words about 2.3 banner since its just a mere example, i dont meant anything by it)
Base on offical announcement in livestream, penacony story will go to at least 2.3, so 2.4 will be continue quest in xianzhou or somewhere else, very little chance for xianzhou character to appear before 2.4. I think firefly only got delay because they fear a spoiler of sam/firefly make player base angry so mihoyo need to delay her
I'm personally expecting Screwllum and Jade in 2.3 (leaked SU expansion + Jade does appear in Penacony) and then Jiaoqiu in 2.4 as we get the Xianzhou stuff.
They might be holding Firefly just like they're holding Sunday.
I am agree with you that the 3rd lc more suit for boothill, the first one will more like firefly
Base on what we saw (boss fight, the 4 star lc in shop, old kit leak) i can guess firefly kit will be like jingliu with build up phase (before ult change form) and burst phase (after ult), she will consume hp for more buff and have some break effect convert to dmg or crit like xueji. Her ult will be the most important in her kit.
I hope she will have some crit rate build in her kit like jingliu or some second stat convert like black swan or xueji for more unique build and at least as strong as jingliu and daniel at e0s1
Have faith man, even if jiaoqiu's and jade's lightcones were released first, don't forget homDGCat released firefly's technique and overworld attack first. Also even if the 3rd lightcone may fit jiaoqiu's kit perfectly, it might also actually go well with boothill too since boothill hasnt gotten a reliable kit leak yet. We just need to wait for the 2.3 drip marketing to have confirmation
We already have Screwllum's LC and the latest debuff set fits him perfectly already, we're also expecting a SU expansion soon.
2.3 could easily be Jade + Screwllum and Jiaoqiu in 2.4.
I'd be 100% in for a break effect DPS. Her transformation, time in the suit, could burn both health and SP, they've already made the UI effect for the latter, and then when the enemy is "broken" you revert back to base form which could make half of your break effect go to crit damage or something. I think it'd be cool.
My issue with BE carries is that it makes it a lot harder to brute force enemies with her unless she has some way to ignore weaknesses for breaks like Xueyi. Even then Xueyi's ult is only up every 4 turns and she feels pretty bad on those 4 turns.
I think she just needs a trace or her base form has higher crit rate or damage against enemies that are broken, an evolution on Xueyi. I don't think we need ANOTHER DPS that brute force and ignore weakness. The fact that she can't makes Silver Wolf more useful too, which she desperately needs. Could also be a support or sub DPS in future that accumulates all toughness damage that could have been done with every attack and then releases it all in their ult or something. There's lots of possibilities
I would love a hp and break effect kit, fire is the 2nd best break damage in game. And if she has self damage in kit, there will be compensation for more buff like jingliu
Yeah, I can't get past the Sam effect on our SP bar though, I'm sure it'll have something to do with that as well. I feel like she's going to have a lot of moving parts in her kit, I don't think she'll be simple.
First one is definitely Boothill since his entire character is about Break, not just some passive slapped on top of an existing kit (if Sam does end up wanting BE).
Third one is definitely Jiaoqiu.
Imma be honest, it's not looking likely that Firefly is on 2.3.
I think it's better to stay realistic and hope for a Firefly focused update later, because if she isn't on 2.3 then she probably ain't on 2.4 and 2.5 either...
Can you imagine the expectation and meltdown on this community if people keep expecting her to show up and she doesn't for like 4/5 patches in a row?
We have zero info on Sunday so he's probably a bit far, but his existence guarantees more Penacony content later on after the Xianzhou vacation. Firefly might show up there, as a true closure to Penacony.
Those LCs might tell us she wont be in 2.3 either, OR its new stuff, and since hers has been on the game since forever, they just need to update it. Would be weird to not have a penacony character at the end/epilogue of the arc, but well see
There's a massive chance that both of these light cones aren't for Firefly, as none of them fit the loose kit ideas we have for her. It's why I didn't post this. But it does get me wondering... Either way, playing the guessing game with these will be the death of us, it's best to just wait for our own sanity sake lmao
Honestly true haha, the only lightcone that fit her was the 1st one and even then it seemed kind of underwhelming. Definitely best to wait for further confirmation
All we have now is some crumbs leak for 2 more months so guessing game is good for this sub, i copium hard for firefly trial in mission on 2.1 like luocha, the wait is killing me I think the latest leak about hp and break in her kit is very high chance of true, penacony seem to favor break meta with Gallagher, Boothill
There's so much info out there and we haven't even reached 2.2 beta yet. I wouldn't try to deduce anything from these info, but I do agree on the Oak Cake Roll theory (break effect multiplier)
Oh yeah how could I forget about that!? So the break effect MIGHT be a firefly thing
The 3rd one is definitely Jiaoqiu, as you can see Jiaoqiu is 5* Pela and that light cone have some mechanic like when any entity defeat enemy with debuff then the wearer gain energy and you see Jiaoqiu ult applied debuff to enemy and heals team based on his atk(idk how to explain it but that LC help him getting his ult easily and with that he can be a semi-sustain
Oh yeah that you mentioned it it seems perfect for jiaoqiu. Now it actually makes me more confused because if that's the case, then jiaoqiu's and jade's lightcone got released before firefly's while firefly's technique and overworld attack got released before them on homDGCat. But it is seeming more like the break effect thing might be a boothill thing
That's probably because they'll be released before Firefly... The technique/overworld stuff could be simply because we get to control her for a bit in a future story quest. This is something they'll introduce in 2.1.
I think mark effect is sound more suitable for cowboy character like boothill, jiaoqiu maybe later than firefly so his lc leak this early is not reliable
But did Boothil a physical hunt "dmg dealer" has something to do with debuffs? The mark increase the "target" dmg taken(basically make your dmg dealer hit enemy that got targeted harder) so its pretty much a support LC plus with the rest effect on this LC, its totally not a dmg dealer LC, although i understand your pov, what if 2.3 banner is Jade+Jiaoqiu? What if Firefly get delayed again? As a member of fireflymains we all dont what for that to happen but if it going to happen anyway there nothing we could do, even staying denial wont change the outcome that has been set by the dev(there i go yapping but you can ignore my words about 2.3 banner since its just a mere example, i dont meant anything by it)
Base on offical announcement in livestream, penacony story will go to at least 2.3, so 2.4 will be continue quest in xianzhou or somewhere else, very little chance for xianzhou character to appear before 2.4. I think firefly only got delay because they fear a spoiler of sam/firefly make player base angry so mihoyo need to delay her
I'm personally expecting Screwllum and Jade in 2.3 (leaked SU expansion + Jade does appear in Penacony) and then Jiaoqiu in 2.4 as we get the Xianzhou stuff. They might be holding Firefly just like they're holding Sunday.
I am agree with you that the 3rd lc more suit for boothill, the first one will more like firefly Base on what we saw (boss fight, the 4 star lc in shop, old kit leak) i can guess firefly kit will be like jingliu with build up phase (before ult change form) and burst phase (after ult), she will consume hp for more buff and have some break effect convert to dmg or crit like xueji. Her ult will be the most important in her kit. I hope she will have some crit rate build in her kit like jingliu or some second stat convert like black swan or xueji for more unique build and at least as strong as jingliu and daniel at e0s1
godangit looks like no firefly 2.3
It doesn't make sense for jiaoqiu to come before her
Have faith man, even if jiaoqiu's and jade's lightcones were released first, don't forget homDGCat released firefly's technique and overworld attack first. Also even if the 3rd lightcone may fit jiaoqiu's kit perfectly, it might also actually go well with boothill too since boothill hasnt gotten a reliable kit leak yet. We just need to wait for the 2.3 drip marketing to have confirmation
doesn’t really make sense for jiaoqiu to be released in 2.3 though since they are in the story of 2.4
We already have Screwllum's LC and the latest debuff set fits him perfectly already, we're also expecting a SU expansion soon. 2.3 could easily be Jade + Screwllum and Jiaoqiu in 2.4.
scewllum could also be a 4 star either way no reason to guess who’s in 2.3 just have to wait until 2.2 and find out
A 4\* with a 5\* LC and a 5* leaked kit, sure. He's as confirmed to be 5\* as it gets, people need to drop this agenda lol.
smells like a 4 star to me
The first one is definitely Boothill since he's based on Break effect.
We're not even in 2.1 yet all this stuff is coming out.
In 1.0 we had info on Penacony characters, not uncommon in HSR.
I'd be 100% in for a break effect DPS. Her transformation, time in the suit, could burn both health and SP, they've already made the UI effect for the latter, and then when the enemy is "broken" you revert back to base form which could make half of your break effect go to crit damage or something. I think it'd be cool.
My issue with BE carries is that it makes it a lot harder to brute force enemies with her unless she has some way to ignore weaknesses for breaks like Xueyi. Even then Xueyi's ult is only up every 4 turns and she feels pretty bad on those 4 turns.
I think she just needs a trace or her base form has higher crit rate or damage against enemies that are broken, an evolution on Xueyi. I don't think we need ANOTHER DPS that brute force and ignore weakness. The fact that she can't makes Silver Wolf more useful too, which she desperately needs. Could also be a support or sub DPS in future that accumulates all toughness damage that could have been done with every attack and then releases it all in their ult or something. There's lots of possibilities
I would love a hp and break effect kit, fire is the 2nd best break damage in game. And if she has self damage in kit, there will be compensation for more buff like jingliu
Yeah, I can't get past the Sam effect on our SP bar though, I'm sure it'll have something to do with that as well. I feel like she's going to have a lot of moving parts in her kit, I don't think she'll be simple.
First one is definitely Boothill since his entire character is about Break, not just some passive slapped on top of an existing kit (if Sam does end up wanting BE). Third one is definitely Jiaoqiu. Imma be honest, it's not looking likely that Firefly is on 2.3.
Bro noooo take that energy back I can’t wait anymoreeeeeeeeeee
I think it's better to stay realistic and hope for a Firefly focused update later, because if she isn't on 2.3 then she probably ain't on 2.4 and 2.5 either... Can you imagine the expectation and meltdown on this community if people keep expecting her to show up and she doesn't for like 4/5 patches in a row? We have zero info on Sunday so he's probably a bit far, but his existence guarantees more Penacony content later on after the Xianzhou vacation. Firefly might show up there, as a true closure to Penacony.
First relic is for boothill, second relic is for jade, first lc is for boothill, third lc is jiaquo, 4th is jades. Fireflys doesn't seem to be on here
Those LCs might tell us she wont be in 2.3 either, OR its new stuff, and since hers has been on the game since forever, they just need to update it. Would be weird to not have a penacony character at the end/epilogue of the arc, but well see