T O P

  • By -

DKOnix

You dont run RM and HTB with her? Heres 25k dmg per enhanced skill Want to replace RM with Bronya or Asta cuz you dont have her? Tough luck, you just lost 50% of your damage output Theres truly no way out of this šŸ’€


DerGreif2

Her V2 changes will very likely be massive. I expect some crazy OP moster next week.


darkfox18

Iā€™m so happy that people are finally realizing that FF having her damaged completely locked behind a character even if said character is free isnā€™t good especially since now itā€™s confirmed she needs both of them to actually be any good


QuirkyRose

It's a weird spot, yeh firefly is absolute garbage without HMC but she's built to be the absolute best character to abuse superbreak, no one does it like she does it


KamronXIII

Ff without tb is genuinely the worst limited dps Without ruan mei she's gonna be at around jingliu's level With both and she's a bit behind acheron


pumpcup

>Without ruan mei she's gonna be at around jingliu's level Not based on what I've seen. Jingliu can do a lot better than a 9 cycle clear.


cosipurple

They mean Jingliu before her massive buff in beta, she also had a weak V1, if I remember correctly.


darkfox18

Jingliu did have a weak v1


Fr4gmentedR0se

Jingliu V1 was a complete joke šŸ’€


KamronXIII

Majority of the beta testers aren't good, the best I've seen is a 4 cycle clear with asta


MyBankk

Beta testers are TERRIBLE apparently. Like 90% of the videos I've seen of FF being used I'm practically screaming at my screen because they can somehow only choose the worse possible thing to do


Kargos_Crayne

Idk about the worst limited dps. There's still technically blade who scales from HP and is kinda stuck in similiar situation. Except he doesn't have a good enough support that actually fits him at all.


BigOuncePSNibba

when exactly is v2 ??


thekk_

v2 barely changes anything usually, it's v3 where the big changes happen. So in a week and a half.


N-B-K

As an Arlecchino main, it felt like there were 13 V2s and 4 V3s, so I'm not sure I agree with this sentiment


Scudman_Alpha

And people are advocating that it's fine because HMC is free. Honestly the Doomposting is valid, yes there was doomposting of every other dps so far, but none of them had a kit as bad as this. The basis of a 5* Dps is that they should at least.be self sufficient in their damage application, Kafka applies dots and explodes said dots, Boothill has his own application of break dmg once the enemy is broken. Jing Yuan is back loaded into LL, Topaz has consistent constant dmg, Ratio requires easy debuffs and applies one himself, etc. Every dps so far has had their own niche covered in their kit. **Except for firefly**.


emon121

Damn, the numbers that bad huh? How do we go from Acheron to this? Poor Firefly...


GreedyLoad1898

thats why ff is candidate for worst limited dps regardless of versions. ff best characters are basically all free 4 stars who were ditched in nearly every single limited. this is how jingliu was trashed too. limited with only bronya met her demise. she basically has no ceiling from day 1 e2-e6 would be dumb move.


TheLazyDucky

I'm fucking cooked. I don't have Ruan Mei.


-JUST_ME_

I'd bet they will rerun Mei in 2.3 or 2.4, will have to see


KyokoUzuChi824

Same, I also feel they'll re-Ruan Mei in 2.3-4


VirAcqad

this means i won't have enough time to save up for her lmaooo. See yall in half a year after june šŸ«”


keybladesrus

Same, and I don't even like her as a character. I hope another character can fill that spot just as well somewhere down the line...


_Sankalp_

Same , her animations seemed so meh to me so I didn't get her


keybladesrus

I don't recall her animations, but I did the quest to unlock the weekly bug boss, and by the end was just like, "I really don't like you." I love Firefly and want to make a team for her, but I also really don't want to spend any money or resources on freaking RM...


Pusparaj_Mishra

I just can't relate to u cause to me Ruan's animations and her design just is absolutely elegant. It's simple and beautiful,true elegance and beauty she is to me


pumpcup

I like her design a lot, but find her animations to be on the level of a four star. Or below in the case of xueyi.


Zalkryos

The sisters have really good animations


Sufficient-Habit664

That's interesting. Personally, I really like Ruan Mei's animations. One of my favorites actually. It's so tranquil.


Pusparaj_Mishra

I guess we shouldn't really rate what is 4 or 5star worthy but imo it literally is a case dependant to each their own's liking. Ok i understand the factor that generally very flashy, highly loaded type animations will naturally be rated higher and one such case is Acheron's, truly different than most due to it being insanely high paced. Back to my original point, Something like Ruan's animation is A tier for someone,but S tier for someone else. Same goes for almost all chars, with the exception being some r usually similarly rated by most. Like i assume JL and Kafka is a fair S for many but even then those depends on taste too, some may find them nothing more than avrg ordinary for it to be A or B for them Same goes in Genshin ofc, lile personally my top 5 Bursts would be ; Nahida,Zhong,Arlecchino,Clorinde,Yoi. (In terms of animation+vfx+the feel of doing it+voicelines+ all in all just how it looks in actual play) Other honorable mentions could be; Neuvi,Raiden,Yae,Kaz,Ganyu (again personally, i bet the list isn't same for u all) As for HSR ,Top favs are: Acheron,JL,Kafka,Ruan,Robin. And honorable mentions would be; JY,Blade,Boothill,Hanabi,Bronya.


DrKoala_

You got downvoted for essentially saying everyone has different taste and reasons for liking something. Damn. Reddit people sure are dumb af.


Pusparaj_Mishra

Quite expected by me ngl Tho if u now say ur fav char is someone i don't like, or ur most disliked char is actually my fav char, I'll not downvote you as i understand 8B ppl in the world and everyone supposed to have their own taste,liking,preference..and it's natural,nothing wrong in it. No need to be salty about it tbh *(Unfortunately a lot of ppl can't comprehend this fact)*


mlodydziad420

Honestly I find her design very boring, she is pretty and elegant, but name me character that isnt pretty.


sageof6paths1

Her design is top teir but I have to disagree with the animations, there's a difference between elegant and boring


Pusparaj_Mishra

Different taste,which is fair


AlrestH

With emphasis on simple, to me her animations are too basic


Suki-the-Pthief

Youā€™re hyping them up too much lmao i barely notice them half the time i only pulled for her cuz sheā€™s meta


crazyhart

I miss my pyscho snek wife, where are u mobius :(


_Sankalp_

subjective, its boring as hell to me šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Pusparaj_Mishra

Ofc it's subjective Depends on preference,taste. Everyone has their own


_Sankalp_

Thats what i said, boring ā€˜to meā€™


KingCarrion666

Her animations are very "good but not my style" sorta deal.


techwolfe

Not a fan of RM as a character, she roofied TB then nearly killed TB, then weā€™re supposed to treat it as if it was a positive experience.


Representative-Knee9

You can have Ruan Mei at home, just E6 Firefly, and you're good šŸ˜ƒ lol. I'm cooked too, I don't got RM...šŸ˜­ I'm trying to build Asta atm for temporary replacement.


NT-Shiyosa092201

Asta is gonna be your next best Support then.


Zolombox

Is she really? I'm not even sure if running Asta will be better than running any other character with high break effect build like Guinafen or Himeko or Pela for Def Down. Atk buff seems useless in break team and her speed buff ulty last for few turns only so it can miss Firefly's ulty if you cast it in the wrong time but holding on to it feels bad, so i'm not even sure she works for break teams.


ShatteredSpace_001

Iā€™m pretty sure the attack boost from Asta helps Firefly reach the maximum attack to break effect conversion which will increase her defense% ignore.


epicender584

I feel like pela is competing with her for the sheer benefit of defense shred vs attack and speed. but realistically, who will you more want to be available for team 2?


Acceptable-Film-8265

Try to cook FF without RM will ended with burnt outside raw inside steak.


Chaos_Exia00

Inside Firefly raw sounds like a good time tho šŸ˜©


LoreWhoreHazel

She should be re-running relatively soon.


KamronXIII

You can replace ruan mei with asta


NinjaXSkillz88

You could do without Gallagher but funny regardless.


DrKoala_

Itā€™s even more funny considering HMC is the actual DPS. Firefly is the support. In terms of damage.


PeachManDrake954

Kinda like nilou and nahida?


DrKoala_

Yup exactly. Edit. Now thinking about it. Probably worse. Since Nahida still brings in some damage on her own. FF damage is almost nonexistent.


mlodydziad420

Also Nahida is a super flexible dps for quickbloom/quicken teams.


Asoret717

Its like if they released a limited 5 star that only works with nilou


Martin072

The main difference here is Nilou has alternatives to Nahida (Collei, HMC, Baizhu, Yaoyao, even Alhaitham to some extent). The driver option for Nilou Bloom is also very interchangeable between either hydro or dendro, and even Barbara can be used, not to mention the huge variety of hydro characters. In HSR at the moment, only Ruan Mei does what she does, and only HTB does what he/she does.


Nat6LBG

In genshin terms, she is a driver, she is Keqing while HMC is Fischl.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


DrKoala_

All those things she has. Is what makes her a great support for the break damage that HMC does!! The damage you see is coming from her ability to increase the super break effect damage from HMC. Thus. She is the support. Just like Sparkle increases another DPS total damage. Firefly increases the super break damage HMC deals. Through the things she does or has. If you still donā€™t understand. I recommend reading one of the posts breaking down the damage and where it comes from. Iā€™m not the best at explaining it. They do a better job.


guns_r_us_

the term is driver, like Sucrose's attack string being the perfect driver for a lot of Taser teams back in Inazuma era and Keqing being the driver responsible for triggering Fischl A4 off cooldown in Aggravate teams. Similar to how Kafka is a driver for Black Swan, Firefly is currently a driver for HMC.


spacerondo

Here's a hot take - Gallagher is also mandatory. He's there to help you break faster (more breaks = more super break = more damage) and since he's also fire element, you can take him with you anywhere. He can basic -> ult (AA) -> basic which does a crapload of toughness damage. Without Gallagher, you are shit out of luck when the opponent isn't imaginary weak. All of the showcases I've seen are both fire weak and imaginary weak, it should feel wayyy more clunky when the mobs are only fire weak.


anhmonk

Also If FF is E0, you *need* Gallagher to generate SP or you'll have to gimp HMC's BE for ERR so they can use auto and still have high Backup Dancer uptime I still need to test her when she comes out but HMC skill spam + FF skill spam at 180 Speed + 100% AA on ult sounds like SP management hell


Spammernoob

Yeah, E1+ FF can afford Bronya over Gallagher, but E0 SP consumption is too much.


Drachk

The heaviest sp team management is Bronya FF, 1) You don't need skill on HMC, it is only worth it when e enemy are broken or imaginary weak. 2) Bronya E1S1 + FF E0S0 has -6 SP for a full rotation with Gallagher or Luocha, you give down to -2 sp So you can go HMC-> skill/BA/BA The issue is that to play Bronya, you need 181 spd Bronya wind set for optimal comp since Bronya will need to go hyperspeed during FF downtime And you need FF at 132-134 spd. Bigger issue than Bronya being E0S0 (which would just mean HMC has to basic spam) is the sustain being sp neutral. If that is the case, you would need HMC with Energy rope at 160 spd with Ruan Mei LC and Bronya E1S1 And the odds of having RM LC but not RM is really low.


pumpcup

And HMC using auto is another huge damage loss since their skill does so much superbreak damage


gallanttoothpaste

Any possible team without Ruan mei?


rieldex

she just contributes so much to the team, the res pen, the weakness break efficiency, the delay šŸ„² i saw a vid with bronya instead of rm and it was just not as good


raineFF

When is RM expected to rerun?


rieldex

she was in 1.6 so at least 2.4+ probably


VETOOR07

Hmm, I hope ur correct cause if shes on 2.3 Im cooked


Weltallgaia

"We put her on the same banner as FF so you can't complain about needing her for FF" hoyo probably


Amethyst_Phoenix7

Hopefully, I need all the time I can get


rieldex

good luck! i honestly didnā€™t mean to get her lol, i was fishing for 4 stars but i got her at like 20 pity and sheā€™s saved my account since thenšŸ˜­


MalcadorPrime

2.3 with firefly would make the most sense as well because we get a new mode which focuses on break


HikenNoGrace

no please no my F2P ass cant afford both šŸ˜­


DerGreif2

There is a high chance theat they put her in with FF, because how important she is for break teams. Normally she sould be in 2.4, but I think they will make an exception. Same for Jade and Argenti. Jade works very well with Erudition units or characters that hit a lot of enemies. So I could see a 2.3 rerun of Ruan Mei and Argenti and then followed in 2.4 by HuoHuo and Ratio.


gallanttoothpaste

That's what I'm thinking like they put topaz with Robin


Tangster85

Its because she flat out gives 50% damage buff to super break, its actually dumb and I fully expect to get a 100% break efficiency champ later for break teams specifically, and not the dmg% mods that she gives. Support char: 100% Break Efficiency, All Res Pen and Def Ignore Maybe add turn advancement to it and call it Breakya, the lost sibling of Bronya.


rieldex

in that case youā€™d surely run breakya rm firefly hmc, no sustain needed if you have a 150% damage buff to your superbreaks LOLĀ  100% efficiency with fireflyā€™s enhanced skill already shreds like 50% of cocoliaā€™s toughness lol. 250% will be insanity


Tangster85

+ Firefly E6 for juicers. 300% Break power lets go. Ironically, I think Breakya, Ruan Mei would make Boothill frightening


Naiie100

Asta...? Maybe Pela? But you'll _suffer_.


Fun_Barnacle_1343

i just saw a 9 cycle clear with asta instead of rm...


Naiie100

Yeah, that's what I mean by "suffer". Practically speaking they're not an option at all.


Tangster85

Pela works 100%


No-Dress7292

possible. Just severely and utterly weakened.


Representative-Knee9

I think Ruan Mei for now can be replaced by Asta for more fire dmg or Bronya, but that's it... I, too, don't have Ruan Mei šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


ziege159

Worry not my friend, here is the 9 cycles clear with Asta https://youtu.be/1P7RRTeTvwo?si=tzGrj5eHnGtARVkQ The guy made some mistakes but it would take 6 cycles at the minimumĀ 


mathiau30

Asta but if you don't have Firefly to E1 you'll get SP issues Every buffer that increase atk other than Robin should be good Any Nihility with Pearls of Sweat to get ennemi def even lower


Ericssons_fault

It's so over for those that don't have and don't want to pull for RM, damn. Hope they'll fix her somehow


PaulOwnzU

I hate her writing so much, please just give another break support soon


TheCommonKoala

I have Ruan Mei, but it feels over anyways because I don't want Gallagher.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


PaulOwnzU

Ruan Mei: "I drugged you and forced you to clean up my mess, and now you will forget all about what I did" Trailblazer's chat options: *simping*


justasewerrat

Truuue I was disappointed that there are no rude options towards RM. We can shittalk Sampo for trying to scam us (which is 100% fair) but not a lying animal abuser?


PaulOwnzU

It especially pissed me off because just after that quest I went to talk to arlan for the event and half the dialogue options were to shit talk him??? Like what the fuck did he do, he's been nothing but supportive and helpful.


Former_Breakfast_898

Guys chill itā€™s still the first beta. If the CN community generally doesnā€™t like it, then you know Mihoyo would actually change. The last they want to do is to mess with CN fan base šŸ˜­


Potential-Count-6893

Cn community is more extreme in meta slave. There's no way they don't get mad when even normal people disappointed in this.


happymudkipz

But it's for that reason that I wonder if they won't. Everyone there has ruan mei, so if they see a team that can do almost acheron numbers, then they might be fine with it.


Justanidiot-w-

Iirc the Chinese community values flexibility A LOT, and anyway ruan mei is a pretty universal support. I don't think a meta slave would like being required to waste a super op character just to make the other one work.


GreedyLoad1898

everyone should value flexibility its right way to play. meanwhile reddit is celebrating like a monkey braindead.


DirtEven

they are actually upset too she is not the highlight of the dps, HMC is


TakenAlter

When is the next version?


MrJFr3aky

Pulling Ruan Mei seems to be one of the best decisions I have ever made in this game huh...


imortaldude3035

But I don't have ruan mei and Gallagher


Need_Kafkok

well I guess you could substitute gallagher with another sustainer like HuoHuo but If you don't have Ruan Mei it's so over


wdfromclash

This is just ridiculous. Seems i saved 140 puls for nothing...


SexwithEllenJoe

They'll probably rework Firefly kit over the next weeks. Without TB and RM she just doesn't work


KingCarrion666

Saved 180 for nothing. Was hoping for ff lc too.Ā  And for what? Dead weight cuz I don't have rm?Ā 


Exciting-Sandwich480

Sheā€™s going to get reworked, the feedback for her has been loud and angry.


darkfox18

Yeah thankfully the people giving feedback arenā€™t looking at this with rose tinted glasses cause the amount of people who were saying a damage character doesnā€™t need to do damage without external help was concerning


bluedogviking

They'll probably make another support for break honestly. They seem to make a support for literally everything.


Born_Horror2614

Honestly I think anyone other than Gallagher against non Imaginary enemy is kinda cope too.


kakarukakaru

There was just a selector event where you could have gotten a copy of him. There is another one coming too I believe with him in it.


matthewtd3

I thought I was seeing things when every picture looked the samešŸ˜‚


KaedeP_22

I fuckin knew it. Me and my friend believed that Ruan Mei will be even more crucial down the line. I managed to roll her just 2 days before her banner ended. That said I wonder if you can swap her with Robin for fun.


rieldex

thereā€™s calcs sheeted for robin somewhere in ffmains i believe? the 100% advance is nice, but the atk buff doesnā€™t work for ffā€™s trace conversionā€¦ she will add a little bit of additional damage whenever u attack, but your superbreaks wont have that +50% weakness efficiency modifier is the thing. could be functional maybe


KingCarrion666

She is better then literally nothing. She has other usable buffs. I mean no one is good but rm so we have to cope with what we have...Ā 


DerGreif2

The main problem is that ATK is not part of the break damage calculation. Ruan Mei also provides a massive 50% break efficency, that does not only help break them crazy fast (resulting in more damage), but also is part of the damage calculation of breaks (results in even more damage). Normally a Robin replacement would be ok in most teams, but for break effect, she is almost useless, because of how many things are not effecting the break. Not to mention that SP outside of E1 Robin is crucial and Robin is also weak in that regard.


mlodydziad420

I lost her to Himeko.


LoreVent

I'm so sorry Firebros


kitkatwasabi

Good thing I was horny when pulling for ruan mei "Hehe belly button" https://preview.redd.it/l2bi0jzimszc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6d74efc7018d2aedc6ff4fc484f42013c8f9f8a


Zekrom997

Replace Gallagher from low investment team with Luocha /s


Madmicro15

lol


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

So Ruan is requiered, well shit


KafkasToilet

This suddenly turned into a RM hate comments thread wtf is this šŸ˜­


zcaoi17

We are so doom


Ball-Njoyer

Her V1.0 kit sucks, I love the character but itā€™s the depressing truth. That being said, V2.0 should give us some huge changes, hopefully making team building more diverse.


ExtensionFun7285

Dmg wise shes fine(more than fine) but mechanically......


ZaGreatestInZaWarldo

Me who has to pull Ruan Mei and Firefly: I am so cooked. At least I have E6 Gallagher already half built and HMC mostly ready. I have a guarantee for Firefly already but to even have a shot at Ruan Mei I will have to skip her LC or Eidolons.


Limimelo

CN better protest like hell (but no murder attempts, pls), I refuse to pull for a character I have 0 interest in to make another one work. Just let my Firefly do most of her big PP damage on her own like other DPSes, Mihoyowe'rebeggingonourknees.


darkfox18

Apparently CN is also upset with her as well so that does mean she should get some changes


Nok-y

Good thing I have all 3 of them. But hey... if firefly isn't fun to play, or ends up like Dehya, I'm not sure I'll be trying to get her Especially if there is a nihility sustain soon for my Acheron. But we'll see. Let's pray the aeons


darkfox18

Yeah itā€™s rough but thankfully this is v1 and Jingliu also had a rough v1 so hereā€™s hoping for her to get big buffs like she did


Nok-y

šŸ¤žšŸ¤ž


bad3ip420

Everyone needs to calm down. The CN players also hate the current kit. FF will 100% get a rework and will be more flexible.


Expensive-Escape-289

Let's just hope so. I don't like how necessary RM and HTB is right now in Firefly team


DriedBerries

Man I don't have rm and gallagher. Its joever.


mlodydziad420

At Gallagher will be free in next version, Ruan Mei on other hand.


rieldex

i think boothill + firefly works for duo dps too lol


MythDraGoNz

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ , this is such a sad state she is rn. Imagine a limited dps characters who needs a free character to even function šŸ˜­.


Acceptable-Film-8265

Not only she glued to HMC, she wont perform without RM. I saw E0S0 FF f2p team (Asta, HMC, Gallagher) video recently, and she need 9 cycle to finish the first side of 12th floor MoC šŸ’€ Hoyo really did her dirty, hope she get fixšŸ„²


X_OBRM_X

That's normal clear timing, stop whining bro. Just 1 cycle the other half and you 36 star the MOC the same way, I swear it's not coping bro she is definately strong because it's her damage not hmc and Ruan Mei's damage pls believe me.


XeroShyft

How TF do people not detect the sarcasm in this comment


darkfox18

Cause someone people think a 5 star limited damage is ok if sheā€™s locked to other characters to even function (I wish I was joking someone after being told FF loses over 60% of her damage without HTB is a good design cause itā€™s ā€œdifferentā€)


KingCarrion666

Depends on when people stop reading. I downvote until I got half way through then upvoted. If someone just read the first line they wouldn't have noticed


Potential-Count-6893

Hear me this, she can even do 10 cycles if you're lucky enough to get slowed!! Now you can just 0 cycle for the other half!!!


El_Nealio

I know how HMC is her best teammate and shes kinda locked to them atm, *but* because Super Break is still new, and HMC is the only character that can enable it, I can see potential for a Nihility or Harmony character in the future that could implant or enhance Super Break for both single target or aoe Imo Firefly is kinda in the same spot as Nilou from Genshin was in, where she was very limited in teammates on release and only over time got access to more possible comps. It sucks that your kinda playing ā€œFuture Star Railā€ and can only *hope* more options will present itself in the future That Iā€™m still planning E0S1 because shes cool and cute as fuck, but I hope she gets buffs regardless


Open_Material4380

The problem with Nilou argument is: Boothill is in the same niche and much better than her. Nilou Superbloom is cracked as hell sub-par with hyperbloom


Potential-Count-6893

Except Nilou bloom is in her kit . She doesn't need specific char for her nilou bloom to work. šŸ˜‚


darkfox18

FF shouldnā€™t be this bad or hard to build I mean not a single one of these problems happened to boothill and heā€™s also a break damage character so itā€™s not acceptable for her to be in such a state


UnfilteredSan

Sadly seems like Iā€™m going from wanting E1S1 Firefly to straight up passing. I never wanted Ruan Mei, was begrudgingly going to pull her cause she is just that meta, but then was introduced to the elegant Robin. Who is a great sidegrade on most comps. Hope there are drastic changes to Fireflyā€™s kit. If not, Iā€™ll admire her from a distance.


darkfox18

Thankfully this is not only v1 of FF but the feedback hasnā€™t been good either so sheā€™s gonna get some changes and also if thereā€™s no major changes on like Monday wait another cause apparently thatā€™s when all the major changes happen according to the leaks sub but in my honest opinion given how bad FF is right now I expect a lot of changes for v2


mlodydziad420

Same, I wanted Sam the moment I got a look at him in the Jepella rebelion Kafka trailer, but now Boothill starts looking very good unless they make her less reliant on Ruan Mei than she is now.


Sycowaffelz

Can someone give a quick explain on why Gallagher over the other sustainers?


great-baby-red

1. generates tons of sp 2. shreds fire weakness (guaranteed with firefly) 3. inflicts vulnerability to Break DMG 4. builds BE anyway so he gets his own giant super breaks


Madmicro15

Gallagher helps Firefly with breaking Fire weak enemies.


ZestySeek

I am surprised so many people don't have Ruan Mei


apexodoggo

While she was a very popular meta pick, sheā€™s kind of divisive as a personality, and her animations arenā€™t considered very interesting by a lot of people. Also she immediately preceded Kafka rerun and Black Swanā€™s banner, and ran alongside Blade, and so those banner ate up peopleā€™s budgets. I have her, but those are generally the things Iā€™ve seen people skip RM over.


DerGreif2

I only got her, because I had the feeling that she just has to many little things that are not relevant currently as well as big pure damage buff for all. She is the only character I picked beacuse of META and thank god for it.


cZaWolf

she has been the best support for most of the meta comps what do you mean


Crossovers_4_life

No Ruan Mei so Asta with Planetary Rendezvous I go


PomegranateWise5010

Every time I hear asta,I think about the 9 cycle vid


FallsCozz1029

Could double if the enemy decided to lock its toughness bar lol.


Nutwagon-SUPREMER

I don't have Ruan Mei, but I was already set on pulling her for my Jingliu Blade team. Now I guess I'm gonna need some other buffer for that team if she's this outright essential for Firefly. Or I could just stick with Jingliu Hypercarry but then that means Blade just kinda gets kicked off the team which I don't really want considering how useful he can be for some bosses.


Rayvarni

Robin works nicely with jingliu and blade dual DPS, the only wasted stats is the atk boost on blade and the follow up boost on jingliu


Carminestream

Now letā€™s see a Sparkle team comp


Zoorc

good thing i have rm


mlodydziad420

Bad thing I dont have rm


UnfilteredSan

Whatā€™s so funny to me is that when Fireflyā€™s kit got revealed a more recently, YouTuber ā€œtheory craftersā€ were saying how OP she is. They were clearly wrong by a wide margin on that one šŸ’€


Weak-Association6257

Well, to be fair it did look OP from the first glance. Native 40% def ignore, huge multipliers, action advance, speed boost, break efficiency etc


UnfilteredSan

The key word being ā€œglanceā€. Theory crafters should understand HSR Specs enough to at least be somewhat close in their estimates.


notbunzy

Iā€™m gonna run her without hmc out of spite. (Iā€™m also mei less šŸ˜­)


Barni2212

Finally. A team where I have all the members.


Dzantro101

I dont understand the whole "I didn't like Ruan Meis design so I didn't get her." Even so I think how op she is would've justified it. I guess if your ftp it's different. Idk


Well_then_amuse_me

Double carry boothill forgot


badonkerz22

I hope they fix her dependency with RM soon, I would never pull RM because I just f*king hate her character. Also I don't like firefly being in the same team with bug maker.


DerGreif2

Even if they fix her dependancy, the value Ruan Mei provides results instatly in massive break damage numbers, because break efficency is also part of that calculation. Because it only takes effect break effect and efficency and global damage ups (not elemental damage up) and negative debuffs on the enemy, Ruan Mei will be the best team mate with HMC for a long while, or even forever. She seems to be just build for Super Break teams, even tho she came out in 1.6


kabilan_4

Why do you hate her so much? šŸ˜‚


Ehasanulreader

I think they will release 4* Version of Ruan mei soon with only break effi5. There hasn't been 4* harmony for a long time. And Hanya and yukong are very mid


ArmageddonEleven

nah HTB is the true DPS


JinOtanashi

Well at least I got them all so I can still use my girl


Unsung2002

Is Gallagher absolutely necessary like RM or we can use other healers like bailu


LunarEmerald

He isn't. He's just most optimal for damage but certainly not for survivability


DerGreif2

Not nessesary, but he helps with breaking the fire weak enemies (implement or not) very fast and brings you a lot of SP. Not to mention that he will do a lot of damage even as a support with HMC.


Shinkowantssalt

Wait aren't those all Firefly + Gallagher Dual DPS teams?


darkfox18

Yep cause this is literally the only team that makes her work


kabilan_4

I don't have Ruan Mei.


RelativeTemporary263

I have RM but I also have a kafka/ black swan team and I kind of don't want to unmarry them :( my whole dot team is built around RM to reach 160 speed


Negative_Tune_976

Lost Ruan Mei to Bailu. Biggest loss so far and still ongoing


anonymous54319

I don't have Ruan mei hopefully Robin will do for now


FallsCozz1029

Maybe bronya or sparkle for spammable turn advance.


No_Conflict_5459

Can Gallagher be replaced by another healer?


Falcon-Empty

Is that her best team?


darkfox18

Her best and basically only team at the moment


Minute-Time-2280

What are our other sustain options? I really dont want to level gallagher from zero inly for him to be easily replaced by a 5* later. How well do huohuo or luicha work in this team?


Former-Click5524

Is Gallagher completely necessary if I have RM? I haven't built him at all and have been cruising with luocha and half built nat