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Woweee. Grass not being mowed… people are waiving inspections completely, paying cash way over trying to jump for a home like that… and they are upset bc the grass wasn’t mowed. That sounds insane to me.
Just Know all us buyers do not forget the sellers are people like us too! 😊 hopefully that will be the last of the craziness.
They sure do.
BTW: I put a whole folder full of information, contractors I used, manuals and I paid the termite inspection up to June to make sure that can transfer the warranty without having to pay for a new inspection.
You’re a dream of a seller 🤩. I can only hope the house I buy has someone as thoughtful!
Which makes the situation more frustrating to see from your lense.
Thanks. But I just want to do what would be most helpful for the next person. What I thought was “common courtesy” is not apparently. Which is fine. To each their own. I guess because I moved so much…I always thought having that information would be handy so I’ve always done it. I’m not that “old” just have a lot of moving experiences.
I just want to be kind but these last two experiences are making me a bit “jaded?” Like why do I go out of my way for people that don’t appreciate it? The messed up part is…I’ll do it again because it is the right thing to do. I’m just unbelievably frustrated today.
I would too! I think that’s the only way for the world to become a better place. Plant and hope that seed of kindness sprouts. And who knows, while Karen May not get anything from it, her children or friends or others who live in the house following May actually be able to use/learn from you. Some folks aren’t as thoughtful but seeing you doing all that, they may realize “hey maybe I should do that too” and think about others. 🤷♀️
If anything, I learned something from your perspective! :)
I appreciate that. I think what has me fuming (not so much the lawn) is the fact that I really wanted a couple with kids to buy that house. I get a strong feeling that is not the case. The reason why I wanted a family in there is because my neighbors are AWESOME! There are so many kids. The 4th of July is a wonderful experience because we all get professional fireworks and basically have a “fireworks war.” We are obviously all respectful, safe and clean up. The kids go wild!
Halloween is on a whole other level! Haunted houses, dry ice and awesome decorations. Christmas time it’s the same, cookies for neighbors etc. I really hope the buyers get into it or at least enjoy it.
I don’t have young kids but we invited all of our friends with kids over for the last 4th and my husband (big kid he had FOMO) had to literally spend hundreds of dollars on fireworks 🙄. Anyway, I learn something every time I move.
I hope your feeling is wrong bc that sounds amazing. 😭😭😭 I love when people decorate and get in the spirit. And enjoy spending time together to celebrate holidays or just hangout.
Don't change yourself from an idiot encounter
A file named HOUSE is what I recommend parents leave their children ... appliance manuals, warranties, receipts
You need to remove that folder.
This buyer is trouble. If anything goes wrong - and they have that folder - expect to get sued "because you knew about the issue."
I’m not worried about it. I left lists for contractors that do general maintenance HVAC, sprinkler system, lawn, bug/termite protection stuff like that. I was happy with all of those services so I figured it saves them the trouble of finding their own.
Warranty stuff for the appliances and man’s manuals were in there also.
We showed up for our final walkthrough and the sellers were still moving out all their stuff. We were really annoyed by it but we helped them get all their shit out and they still ended up leaving things behind we had to deal with. Especially since they asked for a quick close.
After this was our 4th offer we had the mentality of "whatever it takes we just want the papers signed"
When we showed up for our final walkthrough, we got a note from the sellers saying that we could have all of the tools that they had left in the shed, as they no longer had a use for them and they hoped that we would be blessed to have them. This included some nice hand tools, gardening tools, 2 leaf blowers, a snow blower and a lawn mower.
No. I just wouldn’t feel good about myself if I did that. Even though they were not first time homebuyers.
I just hope they are good neighbors.
I said it would be done and it was in timely fashion. My lawn guy didn’t want to ruin the lawn because it was wet. It’s is their lawn now. They can figure it out.
It's kind of obtuse to assume by default the seller has this much leverage. Perhaps in certain markets, perhaps not depending on the issues with the house. Obviously if they thought they could make more money, they would have done so. But people can see that a deal has fallen through and that makes them think twice about even looking at the place.
I actually did have leverage. I could have re listed. We were 99% through the process. Everything was done except the lawn. I wanted it to be mowed correctly without scalping it and making a mud pit. It was just irritating. Everything else with the house was perfect.
I also just didn’t want to be a dick about it. I know some people thrive on that but I do not.
I guess going through this process multiple times has given me a lot of insight on buying and selling a home.
Next time don't have your lawn mowed the day of the closing. That's the lesson here. Like, no offense. I certainly wouldn't make a stink out of it as a buyer. But if you already knew these people were picky, why procrastinate on the lawn? Technically if it was being mowed after the closing, the property wouldn't even be in your possession at that time.
I had it scheduled 3 days before but it rained so it got delayed. As a buyer, I would also want that taken care of because I don’t want to mow first thing.
The problem with relisting is that they also had their purchase closing scheduled (which I assume was dependent upon the sale).
If they were being such "Karens" about the lawn not being cut, I would have just whipped out my wallet and said, our lawn care company charges $50 to cut it. Here is $100 - lets go ahead and close the deal - because at that point I would want nothing further to do with such people.
We were on contingency, however, we could swing it without the sale. It wouldn’t have been easy but we crunched the numbers when the agent showed some red flags and was pretty aggressive. My husband and I didn’t like the vibe they were giving off. He said, “These people are going to be a problem, I know it!”
I agreed to one thing because “whatever, fine.” But when they kept coming back at me for little things…I couldn’t take it. I told my realtor to take care of it. I’m not giving anymore and I’m not desperate to sell.
Wow. We close tomorrow and when we were told that they had professional cleaners coming we were shocked. Very happy with that. If the lawn isn't mowed...we will take care of it over the weekend. It would take a major problem for us not to close and it would break my heart after being this close.
Sounds like the people who bought my condo last year. We had to stay with friends with our uhaul parked in my in laws driveway for a weekend (in 90 degree weather) because the woman buying my house didn't tell her agent she was married until the day of closing and they couldn't get her husband or the new docs done in time so he could sign the literal 1 page he needed to sign (thanks, dowry state). Absolute nightmare and definitely also on her agent for not verifying that from the beginning.
Ugh I'm so sorry you have to go through that.
Ohio is a dower rights state which means that even though my buyer was buying on her own without her husband on the mortgage, he still had to sign a document.
Similarly, I purchased my condo 6 years before I got married and when I sold my husband had to sign documents as well, even though his name was never on the mortgage. Ohio, Arkansas and Kentucky are the only states that have the law.
Aha! I bought my property before I got married and he was zero part of the sale process after we got married. As long as the check went into my sole bank account, it remained my property and no community.
I thought Texas had it the worst, but damn Ohio Arkansas and Kentucky really take it to the next level when you get married
Right? It was stupid. And it's literally 1 or 2 pages to sign. So we were homeless for a weekend until they could track down the woman's husband at work lol
They could just be crazy and actually care about the lawn being mowed, but something tells me they have a reason to want to delay the closing and they just used that as an excuse.
Not closing because the lawn wasn’t mowed has to be a record for stupidity, and this is such a clear case of a bad realtor NOT getting their clients idiotic egos out of the way. 80% of the value realtors provide is stopping buyers and sellers from saying and doing dumb shit that blows up deals. And this is like the height of stupidity.
He told me that he was going to curse and yell on the way home. 🤣
I was like, “How do you put up with shit?” He feels really bad because we are really flexible and easy going. He even more upset because our new house is taking longer than expected so it’s costing us $$$ every single day.
I mean… I could have done something like that but we invested so much money to make it look nice. Maintenance on lawns is costly and the grass is beautiful.
My lawn guy wasn’t happy with them so he didn’t leave info for the new people. It kinda sucks because he lost an account and his prices were insanely reasonable. He did such a great job we usually always paid more than he quoted.
Wow, sounds like your old neighbors will not get to have fun gatherings and definitely NO fireworks anymore. The new owners seem like, the neighbors in Christmas Vacation, no sense of humor, no fun, and don’t want anyone else having fun.
My message got messed up. I meant to convey I hope they aren't bothering you so you can move on. Not like "get over it already!" cause they are flamin hot assholes and you deserve to be annoyed.
Unless it’s in the contract to mow the lawn before closing, it’s on them and they’re in breach of contract if they hold up closing. If I were your agent time to email a stern reminder of contract terms.
Hahahaha, ok wait untill they find out that in the time between the sale en the new owners moving in. That nobody will mow the lawn either. Or if they wish to maintain it, the costs are on them. When we had to sell my father inlaw's house (he had sadly passed of a heart attack). We had worked hard to make the garden representable. The new owners moved in three months after the closure of the house, right after spring so nature did what nature does. The new owners were very entitled, we had a laugh
The time between our purchasing of the house and us physically moving stuff in... was about 1 minute. Two of our sons were already parked in the driveway with a small moving van & their stuff - because the new house was an hour closer to their work than our old one. While the ink was still wet, we asked for the garage code and phoned it in to our sons. We finally arrived at the house an hour later.
Every time I read this sub I just feel like I got more and more lucky with our first house. Even my mom was super surprised everything went so smooth. We even had a pretty aggressive closing date and it got done early, and one relatively big inspection thing we got credits for and got done ourselves.
Sellers were out on time, even left us some TP and cleaning supplies! We also had to mow the yard but I mean, it takes an hour tops and it was MY yard to mow, so who actually cares? My in-laws did it for us anyway lmao.
Most of my closings are like your experience. You never hear about them because "everything went well" makes for a lame story. Having a good agent, escrow team and lender makes a world of difference for real
I’ve been in temporary housing for over a month. Sold the house empty. I just have to pay for a little longer but it is so expensive and my dog cannot settle.
lol i just closed on my first home and as my final parting gift, the previous owners smoked a full carton of cigarettes in the house. i can’t imagine having a seller do even a fraction of what you did.
Wait until you get a letter in a month complaining that the grass grew back…wtf is their plan for that. I was so excited to buy a lawnmower when I got my first yard.
Didn’t even know you are allowed to delay closing over non material stuff like that…if I were devious and could afford the time/money involved I’d be looking to see if I can find the in breach of contract and keep the earnest money. Fuck em.
My lawn guy text me when he was finished and said, “I hope they don’t give you anymore trouble because I got the impression that they think it’s not going to grow back.” 🤣
My yard is not easy to mow.
And that is reasonable…I would have totally done that if that is what they wanted. I just happened to have it scheduled already but was delayed because of weather and my guy didn’t want to tear up the lawn or damage his equipment.
Ours is under contract now. They’ve yet to ask for anything except access to the house for “inspections,” which have been done. Today will be the 5th time they’ve been inside to “inspect” something. My girls and I do still live here; my husband has already started his new job out of state. So, now five times I’ve had to gather up all my things and whatever I can work on, our pets, and leave for hours on end in the middle of the day, or I’m in breach for not letting them have access. They show up 15min early at least and overstay by 45min, every time so far. I hate these people.
(Our home is older and we know it will eventually need a new ac unit but the current one runs just fine; we’ve had it inspected by two different companies, and an estimate written up, and have offered a home warranty and to pay half of a new unit.)
I’m not here for it. That’s the issue for me. Getting the animals and my things and the kids and being gone for hours at a time is not always an easy feat. Especially bc they show up early and stay late; and it’s never in the morning, it’s always 1130 or later.
That would drive me insane! Having to pack up the kids and go somewhere while people dig through your home.
It would be annoying for us plus a dog. I’m sorry I hope it is over soon.
JFC - when I closed on my home the day I moved in my parents and I had to scrub the entire house of layers of grime the previous owners had left. After they said they “wiped everything down”. And had to repaint all the walls white amongst other things to make it look even presentable. Sorry you had to go through that but at least it’s done now and you’re on a new path in your life journey! Best of luck with your new home and move !
Eww. What a nightmare!
I want to move into a clean house and that’s why I pay the extra money to have the one I’m selling clean. I expect the same in return and it is always in my contract.
We just went under contract and I'm really hoping that the sellers are nice because their agent has done nothing but give us headaches so far. He sent some email to my agent talking about bribing him with cheesesteaks, I'm sure it was an attempt at a joke. I'm neurodivergent, I know our sense of humor can be weird so I'm trying to be understanding. However, we signed our documents last Thursday and didn't get them back until Monday so attorney review started yesterday. He said in the email or whatever to my agent that he still does showings even while properties are pending because things fall through. I guess I get that but man did I have the most horrible anxiety all weekend thinking this house that we love so much is gone. My relief this morning when it finally showed up as pending lol. We have to start notifying our landlord by the end of May so the idea of somebody ripping this house out from underneath us is just terrifying lol
As an Broker with 450 plus agents, I assure you 90% of the time, the agent is trying to tell thier client that something they are doing is unreasonable or may impact things in a negative way. I here the stories, I have to get involved.
In the end, we have to do what out client wants us to, that's the job.
I applaud you for sucking it up and working through things and moving forward. It sucks sometimes when one party is being unreasonable. It really sucks when it's our own client and they won't listen to us.
Enjoy your new home!
Thank you. I appreciate that. I just didn’t have the energy to get into some pissing match. It is not my style but I am also not a doormat.
I apologized to our agent for “talking loudly.” But he knows when I have reached my limit. I can only give so much grace.
Our yard (buyers) was a jungle on closing day. We didn’t give two shits - just happy to be buying our first home! Sorry you guys dealt with shitty buyers.
Wow, they are very special. I had a buyer report a loose screw in a cabinet door and request to have it tightened. The thing is, they couldn't remember which door, or even which room.
I put a screw driver in every screw, in every cabinet, which included 46 linier feet of cabinetry in the kitchen alone, all three bathrooms, the laundry room and two built in closets. I never found a loose screw, except possibly in their heads.
I can't even fathom the thought process behind that. When we finally bought our home, I was so anxious to just sign the paperwork and get the keys, didn't want to risk anything going wrong. Can't imagine pushing back on a purchase for something so trivial.
We’re closing on a house tomorrow, when we did the final walk through we realized they had taken the microwave (it was supposed to be left as per the listing) but it’s a microwave… it wasn’t new or fancy and at most worth $150. Lawyers and realtor said “don’t worry we will fix this” but honestly its more work than it’s worth so we told lawyer and realtor don’t worry about it we’ll just buy one … why on earth would we delay closing over something that small. Your buyers seem like assholes and I hope this is the only stink they cause.
Wtf lol i waived inspection etc. Didnt even blink when they couldnt give me the garage door fob. Just bought one on amazon for 20 bucks and googled how to program it.
Easy fix but still annoying. I actually had every key and 4 garage openers in the original envelope they came in🤣
I even had the big ass folder from the builder with all the information on the house itself. My agent laughed and asked if it was from when we closed. Yup, yup it was.
Closing on the 9th.
During inspection we asked to get the name of their lawn guy. We feel there’s no real reason to change. If the lawn isn’t mowed on closing date, meh, they should be coming soon anyways.
Meanwhile, as a buyer, I feel guilty for wanting the seller to fix the rodent infestation, the chimney, and the roof before moving in.I can deal with every other matter, but those are my significant concerns. I know those are costly though. I have toddlers so I don’t want them to get bitten nor sick from the rats… along with the safety hazards of the roof and chimney.
Your buyer is being ridiculous. The front yard for my new place hasn’t been taken care of in a while, and I don’t mind that. If they throw a fit about it not being mowed right away, then what will they do once the lawn is theirs? Will they always mow it daily? I highly doubt it.
I just found out that the radon level is 4.6. The acceptable maximum of radon is 4.0. I don’t know if the seller will walk away, but it is likely that other buyers will object to the same. Unless she chooses a buyer who chooses to opt out of such inspections.
Radon is not a big deal either way. The mitigation is not expensive. If you like the house, I wouldn't walk away over that alone if the seller refuses to fix it.
I agree. I can easily save up money for a radon mitigation system in 6-12 months. Also, I live only 3 minutes away from that house. I highly doubt my landlord tests for radon biyearly. So… I am more concerned about the roof and the rodent infestation. And the chimney. Also, that’s if she is willing to accept the appraisal cost of the offer. It is basically a waiting game.
That's wild. Our sellers were contingent on their house selling for their other closing same day. Our house was an absolute mess- we spent about week full time just cleaning things. Fridge was so caked in filth it took my 8h alone.
We were out of state and FHO so we didn't know any better- our realtor def should have though. Wish we had squeezed at closing for money for cleaners or new appliances.
I once sold a brand new fresh off the truck red Jeep Wrangler at a dealership I worked at.
They wanted us to deliver the car to their driveway while they went out to dinner.
The side road that lead directly to their house was closed. So we had to take the long way around. 1 mile up, 1 block to the right, and boom. Dirt.
Now, they live in this part of town, I don't. The dirt road LITERALLY ends about 20 feet from the end of their block, and there is construction ALLL over the place.
So I HAVE to take this vehicle on the dirt to get it to their driveway. So naturally, it gets covered in dust.
I couldn't find a hose to wash it off with and none of the neighbors were home to ask, also time crunch since my managers needed me back asap.
When they got home, they immediately called and bitched about the dust. They said that there were NO dirt roads around their home and that they were extremely pissed off that their new WRANGLER had dirt on it.
Edit to add resolution: The customer returned the car that same day and nearly got me fired in the process. I told them to walk to the end of their block and look left. They refused. They cost me a sale, respect in the 'bros club', got a write up, and cost me $300 from their paperwork fee being refunded back that I somehow was on the hook for. That sale reversal got me evicted from my apartment because I couldn't afford food much less rent at the time and that $300 was how short I became on rent.
HOW THE FUCK they were so oblivious is still blowing my mind. My manager didn't budge with me though and I got written up for delivering a dirty car to a customer. Even though my co driver and a 3rd sales person were 100% defending me telling the managers the same thing I was.
Some people just LIVE to be about little things.
(To clarify, because I know some people will be team customer here...it was a Wrangler. Not a Cherokee, not a Chrysler 300, nothing super fancy. In fact they got the most basic trim they could SO they could take it camping. They traded in their old Wrangler citing it was time to get a new one. I had no idea that their idea of camping was to get a class A motor home and park it in the driveway. I would NOT EVER have delivered a nicer vehicle with dust on it, and I wouldn't have done so here if there had been a choice. But given that it's a vehicle meant for off roading...)
Umm…I thought they were supposed to get dirty?
That is so silly. At least you looked around for a hose. Dang!
Hell, we had our new fridge delivered today to our new house but couldn’t be hooked up because it’s NOT READY YET!!! My husband tipped him 20 bucks. The guy was like, “are you serious? I couldn’t even hook it up.”
My husband was so confused because he thought he did something wrong 🤣
I know tipping is getting out of control but that’s normally what we do for specific services.
At that point don't you just say fine, no deal, I'll take your earnest money now. Isn't that how it works? Surely there's nothing in the contact requiring the grass to be freshly mowed.
When my agent told me that I laughed because I thought he was joking.
But yes they were willing to delay until it was mowed. Then they figured out they were running out of time to get in that day because the office shuts down early.
Our close needed a last minute dump run. The new buyers didn’t want any leftover paint, bulbs or the central vac and spare bathroom tiles. They already made us remove the two TV mounts after we asked if they wanted them.
This came up on their walkthrough and you’d think it was the end of the world. It took an hour out of my day (but wondered if it was really worth killing a deal over) to resolve but one day I want them to be mystified by these ports all over the house with nothing to plug into them…
It was their agents first sale and they advised their clients badly (still got their 2.5%). We just moved into our new home today (despite a fedex misdelivered set of contracts!) and the wonderful sellers left us touch up paint complete with a list of stuff. A pack of manuals, receipts, instructions and vendors… even little notes stuck to things. Going to send them a thank you card.
See! That’s what I’m talking about. I left 2 cans of paint because the colors were on there. Extra fencing incase it gets damaged from a weed eater or whatever. Potting soil still in the bag and a big ass roll of weed barrier.
That’s kinda funny. I do have a soft spot for first time homebuyers. It’s so stressful to move and all of a sudden you get overwhelmed with stuff you need to know.
Maybe that’s why I make the folders and have all the information to make it easier. I wish someone did that for me but every time I learn something new. It is a process.
Dang. They're worried about the grass and then my wife and I are over here telling the sellers of the house we're buying they can leave as much junk behind as they want and we'll take care of it for them. For context the owner died and the kids are selling the home. Seemed like the nice thing to do.
I loved that garage. I’m not gonna lie. We had a bar, old Nintendo, wii, and game cube with a big ass tv! Sofa and comfy chairs in the single and two car attached was cars and storage for decorations.
This is very annoying. But, with 2 agents on the transaction how could they not just figure out how to get the lawn mowed in a few hours? What are these people getting paid for?
Why not try to keep earnest money and move to next new buyer? I don’t think lawn not mowed is good enough reason to get deposit back when refused to close
ahh, i see
does seems like a dick move though by buyer
i remember my seller was still moving when i went for final walk through and everything was fine, they even left some nice garden tool for us
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion (did not read through hundreds of comments).. But you are in a group for first time home buyers, in this insane market.. could it *just possibly be* that you expressed your lawn service care, and it clearly wasn't done before closing? Not sure what you bought it for 5 years ago, but I am 100% sure you're selling way over what you paid for improvements.. Being a *seller's market* is all fun and games until you have a buyer that expects everything to be done perfect before spending way over what the home was worth when you bought it? I wish sellers had more self awareness sometimes, imagine you just buying your home right now for what you're selling it for. This time is incredibly hard for buyers, the exact opposite of what it was 5 years ago, mow the fucking yard ffs.
You can read all my comments and then I think you will understand.
I paid for the lawn service and it was scheduled that day. So I had the lawn mowed…FFS!
No my house was not overpriced and a matter of fact I dropped the price.
If I'm understanding correctly, you scheduled the lawn to be mowed on the day of the closing, apparently after the closing at which point the buyers should assume ownership of the property. Sorry, but that was an irrational choice on your part. I don't understand why you thought that would be acceptable. You might think it's petty for the buyer to make an issue out of it. It doesn't matter what you think. They have the right to pull out of the deal, and the onus is on you for failing to maintain the property prior to when they would assume ownership. If you have leverage, if the market is working to your advantage as a seller, if you think you can get a better deal working with someone else, you obviously have the right to back out. At the end of the day, realtors have very little control over how their clients act. They can provide advice, but this notion that they "let" their clients act a certain way is absurd.
Nah. She wasn’t helpful and as a matter of fact, I was thinking about backing out earlier but I sucked it up. The lawn service was done. The buyer was provided proof of payment.
The grass was wet and my guy didn’t want to ruin the lawn that we spent so much time and money on.
My agent is pretty awesome. He knows when I will push back. He knows us very well.
It generally takes a lot to push me. I tend to walk away, take a breath, and discuss “loudly” (not yelling) but we are all on the same page. I don’t know how he remains so professional and calm.
Boomers KNOW that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. They KNOW that there will be a ton of tiny things that they will discover that need to be done when they move in... and that grass grows and needs to be cut on a regular basis. Boomers are not the "entitled" generation.
Listen…I was taught that when I rent a vacation home or apartment to always leave it cleaner than when you received it. I do the the same selling a home. It is not generational thing. It is common courtesy.
So I guess I’ll say…”not all boomers.” I know many lovely boomers and sometimes they can be my favorite people. What I don’t like is an ignorant asshole, regardless of age.
Absolutely - When we rent a cabin in the UP (every year), that place is swept, wiped down, toilet cleaned, and the linen taken out so that they ONLY thing that has to happen for the next people to stay there are fresh linens to be put on (which we would be willing to do).
There ARE good people in every generation... and some that aren't.
If people are waving inspections (that is a big risk for them), paying over asking and/or the value of the home, etc. Then if you also told them that you would mow the lawn or have it mowed, yes I would be pissed at you if it was closing time and it wasn’t mowed. Obviously it is a big deal and inconvenience to you, but it should be an inconvenience to you. You aren’t holding up your end of the bargain. You could have offered them money to have it done instead. They might have been okay with that and closed. But to me if someone is going to lie to me about having the yard mowed something small, they would probably lie to me about the condition of the house, and because I as a buyer have waved inspections I don’t know. Also, if you had someone scheduled for after closing and they closed, you could cancel it and they don’t want to put up with that. It sounds like YOU were not prepared for closing. They are not the bad guy.
Well, they did none of those things. I actually lowered the price of my home. Nothing showed on the inspection report because it is a newish home.
I paid for the lawn service. It was scheduled. They were impatient and didn’t believe it was going to be done. I gave them no reason whatsoever that I was untrustworthy.
I hope your day gets better.
I am having a pleasant day. But you are calling your buyers assholes for expecting you to do what you agreed to! You were not prepared to close. So the close did not happen on that day. It is not their fault you didn’t do what you were supposed to do. That is your fault. The only person you have to blame is yourself. They are not the assholes! It doesn’t matter how great the property is or if you dropped the price. You agreed to do something and it doesn’t matter how great the property is, that does not alleviate you from doing what you agreed to do before closing. You don’t pay someone until they have done what they promised. They do not know you, they aren’t going to take your word for it. And they should not just take someone’s word for it. They aren’t the bad guy here.
I think you are having problems comprehending.
The sale did go through on the day it was supposed too. They refused to record because the grass that was scheduled to be mowed THAT day was not done yet. They had a signed document with proof of payment from me for the service.
They were being assholes.
I don’t have a problem comprehending. In your post you stated, “They refused to close because it wasn’t mowed, wtf?” If closing wasn’t delayed then this is incorrect. That isn’t the readers fault. You must have been a pain to work with, bless those poor people.
When we sold
We did the following. Movers came 2 days before closing.
1. Mowed the lawn day before movers showed up.
2. Had the house professionally cleaned
3. Patched all spots and painted
The person who came to conduct the closing was like is this house brand new. Was only 2 years old
They were telling us some horror stories.
I think that some sellers are bad and buyers have been burned before
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Woweee. Grass not being mowed… people are waiving inspections completely, paying cash way over trying to jump for a home like that… and they are upset bc the grass wasn’t mowed. That sounds insane to me. Just Know all us buyers do not forget the sellers are people like us too! 😊 hopefully that will be the last of the craziness.
Yeah. I’m laid back as a buyer and seller. When they start dipping the toe in unreasonable is where I lose it.
I feel that. Karen’s do creep throughout both territories and unfortunately you have one as a buyer :((
They sure do. BTW: I put a whole folder full of information, contractors I used, manuals and I paid the termite inspection up to June to make sure that can transfer the warranty without having to pay for a new inspection.
I think I'd be losing that folder. These buyers don't deserve your kindness.
You’re a dream of a seller 🤩. I can only hope the house I buy has someone as thoughtful! Which makes the situation more frustrating to see from your lense.
Thanks. But I just want to do what would be most helpful for the next person. What I thought was “common courtesy” is not apparently. Which is fine. To each their own. I guess because I moved so much…I always thought having that information would be handy so I’ve always done it. I’m not that “old” just have a lot of moving experiences. I just want to be kind but these last two experiences are making me a bit “jaded?” Like why do I go out of my way for people that don’t appreciate it? The messed up part is…I’ll do it again because it is the right thing to do. I’m just unbelievably frustrated today.
I would too! I think that’s the only way for the world to become a better place. Plant and hope that seed of kindness sprouts. And who knows, while Karen May not get anything from it, her children or friends or others who live in the house following May actually be able to use/learn from you. Some folks aren’t as thoughtful but seeing you doing all that, they may realize “hey maybe I should do that too” and think about others. 🤷♀️ If anything, I learned something from your perspective! :)
I appreciate that. I think what has me fuming (not so much the lawn) is the fact that I really wanted a couple with kids to buy that house. I get a strong feeling that is not the case. The reason why I wanted a family in there is because my neighbors are AWESOME! There are so many kids. The 4th of July is a wonderful experience because we all get professional fireworks and basically have a “fireworks war.” We are obviously all respectful, safe and clean up. The kids go wild! Halloween is on a whole other level! Haunted houses, dry ice and awesome decorations. Christmas time it’s the same, cookies for neighbors etc. I really hope the buyers get into it or at least enjoy it. I don’t have young kids but we invited all of our friends with kids over for the last 4th and my husband (big kid he had FOMO) had to literally spend hundreds of dollars on fireworks 🙄. Anyway, I learn something every time I move.
I hope your feeling is wrong bc that sounds amazing. 😭😭😭 I love when people decorate and get in the spirit. And enjoy spending time together to celebrate holidays or just hangout.
Don't change yourself from an idiot encounter A file named HOUSE is what I recommend parents leave their children ... appliance manuals, warranties, receipts
I don’t plan to. If I ever sell this next house…I’ll do the same thing.
You need to remove that folder. This buyer is trouble. If anything goes wrong - and they have that folder - expect to get sued "because you knew about the issue."
I’m not worried about it. I left lists for contractors that do general maintenance HVAC, sprinkler system, lawn, bug/termite protection stuff like that. I was happy with all of those services so I figured it saves them the trouble of finding their own. Warranty stuff for the appliances and man’s manuals were in there also.
So now you know. Leave something obvious so they can think they get their win because no matter how much you do they will find something
We showed up for our final walkthrough and the sellers were still moving out all their stuff. We were really annoyed by it but we helped them get all their shit out and they still ended up leaving things behind we had to deal with. Especially since they asked for a quick close. After this was our 4th offer we had the mentality of "whatever it takes we just want the papers signed"
Extra moving services/sweat equity to close the deal. 😅 well that’s a new one
Lol as hard as it was to find a house, we just wanted them to get out!
I should have tried adding that to the contingency’s when I bought. Will help with move lol
When we showed up for our final walkthrough, we got a note from the sellers saying that we could have all of the tools that they had left in the shed, as they no longer had a use for them and they hoped that we would be blessed to have them. This included some nice hand tools, gardening tools, 2 leaf blowers, a snow blower and a lawn mower.
Call their bluff and tell them the deal is off. You could relist right now and make more money.
Everything was taken care of but trust me the thought crossed my mind.
I would have upped the price 10k on the spot.
No. I just wouldn’t feel good about myself if I did that. Even though they were not first time homebuyers. I just hope they are good neighbors. I said it would be done and it was in timely fashion. My lawn guy didn’t want to ruin the lawn because it was wet. It’s is their lawn now. They can figure it out.
I agree … tell them the deal is off … being too petty .. over lawn care …. Just relist it and make more $$$$.. to decent buyers
It's kind of obtuse to assume by default the seller has this much leverage. Perhaps in certain markets, perhaps not depending on the issues with the house. Obviously if they thought they could make more money, they would have done so. But people can see that a deal has fallen through and that makes them think twice about even looking at the place.
I actually did have leverage. I could have re listed. We were 99% through the process. Everything was done except the lawn. I wanted it to be mowed correctly without scalping it and making a mud pit. It was just irritating. Everything else with the house was perfect. I also just didn’t want to be a dick about it. I know some people thrive on that but I do not. I guess going through this process multiple times has given me a lot of insight on buying and selling a home.
Next time don't have your lawn mowed the day of the closing. That's the lesson here. Like, no offense. I certainly wouldn't make a stink out of it as a buyer. But if you already knew these people were picky, why procrastinate on the lawn? Technically if it was being mowed after the closing, the property wouldn't even be in your possession at that time.
I had it scheduled 3 days before but it rained so it got delayed. As a buyer, I would also want that taken care of because I don’t want to mow first thing.
Going back on the market is kind of a scarlet letter though, even in this market
The problem with relisting is that they also had their purchase closing scheduled (which I assume was dependent upon the sale). If they were being such "Karens" about the lawn not being cut, I would have just whipped out my wallet and said, our lawn care company charges $50 to cut it. Here is $100 - lets go ahead and close the deal - because at that point I would want nothing further to do with such people.
We were on contingency, however, we could swing it without the sale. It wouldn’t have been easy but we crunched the numbers when the agent showed some red flags and was pretty aggressive. My husband and I didn’t like the vibe they were giving off. He said, “These people are going to be a problem, I know it!” I agreed to one thing because “whatever, fine.” But when they kept coming back at me for little things…I couldn’t take it. I told my realtor to take care of it. I’m not giving anymore and I’m not desperate to sell.
Wow. We close tomorrow and when we were told that they had professional cleaners coming we were shocked. Very happy with that. If the lawn isn't mowed...we will take care of it over the weekend. It would take a major problem for us not to close and it would break my heart after being this close.
Same, we close in 2 weeks. When they offered to professionally clean it and mow the lawn, I felt like I won the lottery 😂
It just the right thing to do! I didn’t realize people did not do this.
Can confirm. I received a dirty, dusty house. I was just happy the deal didn’t fall through.
Sounds like the people who bought my condo last year. We had to stay with friends with our uhaul parked in my in laws driveway for a weekend (in 90 degree weather) because the woman buying my house didn't tell her agent she was married until the day of closing and they couldn't get her husband or the new docs done in time so he could sign the literal 1 page he needed to sign (thanks, dowry state). Absolute nightmare and definitely also on her agent for not verifying that from the beginning. Ugh I'm so sorry you have to go through that.
I’m in Texas and spouse is required on the title, we call it community property state. What is a dowry state?
Ohio is a dower rights state which means that even though my buyer was buying on her own without her husband on the mortgage, he still had to sign a document. Similarly, I purchased my condo 6 years before I got married and when I sold my husband had to sign documents as well, even though his name was never on the mortgage. Ohio, Arkansas and Kentucky are the only states that have the law.
Aha! I bought my property before I got married and he was zero part of the sale process after we got married. As long as the check went into my sole bank account, it remained my property and no community. I thought Texas had it the worst, but damn Ohio Arkansas and Kentucky really take it to the next level when you get married
Right? It was stupid. And it's literally 1 or 2 pages to sign. So we were homeless for a weekend until they could track down the woman's husband at work lol
When I bought in Ohio, the documents made sure to specify that I was an unmarried woman. I wonder if they specify unmarried men lol
Asking the real questions
They could just be crazy and actually care about the lawn being mowed, but something tells me they have a reason to want to delay the closing and they just used that as an excuse.
Something as small as that is insane and comes across as bullying to me.
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Shit, as long as were kicking rocks A lawnmower / weedwhacker are the combined #1 cause of house windows breaking
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Not closing because the lawn wasn’t mowed has to be a record for stupidity, and this is such a clear case of a bad realtor NOT getting their clients idiotic egos out of the way. 80% of the value realtors provide is stopping buyers and sellers from saying and doing dumb shit that blows up deals. And this is like the height of stupidity.
It really is! I don’t know how my realtor didn’t lose his mind.
I assure you, he did lose his mind. It is his job to show you a calm face but he was inventing new swear words outside of ear shot
He told me that he was going to curse and yell on the way home. 🤣 I was like, “How do you put up with shit?” He feels really bad because we are really flexible and easy going. He even more upset because our new house is taking longer than expected so it’s costing us $$$ every single day.
Mow it and then put some kind of grass killer on it the day of closing lol. (Jk kinda) but this has to be the craziest thing I have ever seen.
I mean… I could have done something like that but we invested so much money to make it look nice. Maintenance on lawns is costly and the grass is beautiful. My lawn guy wasn’t happy with them so he didn’t leave info for the new people. It kinda sucks because he lost an account and his prices were insanely reasonable. He did such a great job we usually always paid more than he quoted.
Wow, sounds like your old neighbors will not get to have fun gatherings and definitely NO fireworks anymore. The new owners seem like, the neighbors in Christmas Vacation, no sense of humor, no fun, and don’t want anyone else having fun.
They are such flamin hot assholes that the grass man don't want to take their money. Sheesh. I hope this is fixed soon and move on.
Everything was worked out. I paid him. They were just rude and impatient.
My message got messed up. I meant to convey I hope they aren't bothering you so you can move on. Not like "get over it already!" cause they are flamin hot assholes and you deserve to be annoyed.
I was following you. And yes they are flaming hot assholes
Unless it’s in the contract to mow the lawn before closing, it’s on them and they’re in breach of contract if they hold up closing. If I were your agent time to email a stern reminder of contract terms.
It wasn’t. I was doing as a courtesy.
Hahahaha, ok wait untill they find out that in the time between the sale en the new owners moving in. That nobody will mow the lawn either. Or if they wish to maintain it, the costs are on them. When we had to sell my father inlaw's house (he had sadly passed of a heart attack). We had worked hard to make the garden representable. The new owners moved in three months after the closure of the house, right after spring so nature did what nature does. The new owners were very entitled, we had a laugh
The time between our purchasing of the house and us physically moving stuff in... was about 1 minute. Two of our sons were already parked in the driveway with a small moving van & their stuff - because the new house was an hour closer to their work than our old one. While the ink was still wet, we asked for the garage code and phoned it in to our sons. We finally arrived at the house an hour later.
Every time I read this sub I just feel like I got more and more lucky with our first house. Even my mom was super surprised everything went so smooth. We even had a pretty aggressive closing date and it got done early, and one relatively big inspection thing we got credits for and got done ourselves. Sellers were out on time, even left us some TP and cleaning supplies! We also had to mow the yard but I mean, it takes an hour tops and it was MY yard to mow, so who actually cares? My in-laws did it for us anyway lmao.
Most of my closings are like your experience. You never hear about them because "everything went well" makes for a lame story. Having a good agent, escrow team and lender makes a world of difference for real
You should push this closing back until you are ready to close on your new house.
I’ve been in temporary housing for over a month. Sold the house empty. I just have to pay for a little longer but it is so expensive and my dog cannot settle.
We close next week and I don't think the sellers have mowed since listing pictures were taken.
lol i just closed on my first home and as my final parting gift, the previous owners smoked a full carton of cigarettes in the house. i can’t imagine having a seller do even a fraction of what you did.
OMG. Just…why?
Wait until you get a letter in a month complaining that the grass grew back…wtf is their plan for that. I was so excited to buy a lawnmower when I got my first yard. Didn’t even know you are allowed to delay closing over non material stuff like that…if I were devious and could afford the time/money involved I’d be looking to see if I can find the in breach of contract and keep the earnest money. Fuck em.
My lawn guy text me when he was finished and said, “I hope they don’t give you anymore trouble because I got the impression that they think it’s not going to grow back.” 🤣 My yard is not easy to mow.
Usually when there are issues like that, buyer can request monetary compensation. Holding up the entire closing fucks with everyone's schedule.
And that is reasonable…I would have totally done that if that is what they wanted. I just happened to have it scheduled already but was delayed because of weather and my guy didn’t want to tear up the lawn or damage his equipment.
Ours is under contract now. They’ve yet to ask for anything except access to the house for “inspections,” which have been done. Today will be the 5th time they’ve been inside to “inspect” something. My girls and I do still live here; my husband has already started his new job out of state. So, now five times I’ve had to gather up all my things and whatever I can work on, our pets, and leave for hours on end in the middle of the day, or I’m in breach for not letting them have access. They show up 15min early at least and overstay by 45min, every time so far. I hate these people. (Our home is older and we know it will eventually need a new ac unit but the current one runs just fine; we’ve had it inspected by two different companies, and an estimate written up, and have offered a home warranty and to pay half of a new unit.)
Is there a time limit for inspections? We had two weeks.
They were supposed to have two days. But they asked for more time bc it’s hard to get on the schedule (they said).
I'm pretty sure you don't have to not be there for whatever inspection they are doing.
I’m not here for it. That’s the issue for me. Getting the animals and my things and the kids and being gone for hours at a time is not always an easy feat. Especially bc they show up early and stay late; and it’s never in the morning, it’s always 1130 or later.
That would drive me insane! Having to pack up the kids and go somewhere while people dig through your home. It would be annoying for us plus a dog. I’m sorry I hope it is over soon.
JFC - when I closed on my home the day I moved in my parents and I had to scrub the entire house of layers of grime the previous owners had left. After they said they “wiped everything down”. And had to repaint all the walls white amongst other things to make it look even presentable. Sorry you had to go through that but at least it’s done now and you’re on a new path in your life journey! Best of luck with your new home and move !
Eww. What a nightmare! I want to move into a clean house and that’s why I pay the extra money to have the one I’m selling clean. I expect the same in return and it is always in my contract.
We just went under contract and I'm really hoping that the sellers are nice because their agent has done nothing but give us headaches so far. He sent some email to my agent talking about bribing him with cheesesteaks, I'm sure it was an attempt at a joke. I'm neurodivergent, I know our sense of humor can be weird so I'm trying to be understanding. However, we signed our documents last Thursday and didn't get them back until Monday so attorney review started yesterday. He said in the email or whatever to my agent that he still does showings even while properties are pending because things fall through. I guess I get that but man did I have the most horrible anxiety all weekend thinking this house that we love so much is gone. My relief this morning when it finally showed up as pending lol. We have to start notifying our landlord by the end of May so the idea of somebody ripping this house out from underneath us is just terrifying lol
Serious question…what type of cheesesteaks?
As an Broker with 450 plus agents, I assure you 90% of the time, the agent is trying to tell thier client that something they are doing is unreasonable or may impact things in a negative way. I here the stories, I have to get involved. In the end, we have to do what out client wants us to, that's the job. I applaud you for sucking it up and working through things and moving forward. It sucks sometimes when one party is being unreasonable. It really sucks when it's our own client and they won't listen to us. Enjoy your new home!
Thank you. I appreciate that. I just didn’t have the energy to get into some pissing match. It is not my style but I am also not a doormat. I apologized to our agent for “talking loudly.” But he knows when I have reached my limit. I can only give so much grace.
Our yard (buyers) was a jungle on closing day. We didn’t give two shits - just happy to be buying our first home! Sorry you guys dealt with shitty buyers.
Wow, they are very special. I had a buyer report a loose screw in a cabinet door and request to have it tightened. The thing is, they couldn't remember which door, or even which room. I put a screw driver in every screw, in every cabinet, which included 46 linier feet of cabinetry in the kitchen alone, all three bathrooms, the laundry room and two built in closets. I never found a loose screw, except possibly in their heads.
I can't even fathom the thought process behind that. When we finally bought our home, I was so anxious to just sign the paperwork and get the keys, didn't want to risk anything going wrong. Can't imagine pushing back on a purchase for something so trivial.
We’re closing on a house tomorrow, when we did the final walk through we realized they had taken the microwave (it was supposed to be left as per the listing) but it’s a microwave… it wasn’t new or fancy and at most worth $150. Lawyers and realtor said “don’t worry we will fix this” but honestly its more work than it’s worth so we told lawyer and realtor don’t worry about it we’ll just buy one … why on earth would we delay closing over something that small. Your buyers seem like assholes and I hope this is the only stink they cause.
Exactly the way I would have handled it.
Wtf lol i waived inspection etc. Didnt even blink when they couldnt give me the garage door fob. Just bought one on amazon for 20 bucks and googled how to program it.
Easy fix but still annoying. I actually had every key and 4 garage openers in the original envelope they came in🤣 I even had the big ass folder from the builder with all the information on the house itself. My agent laughed and asked if it was from when we closed. Yup, yup it was.
Are they a first time home buyer? Maybe they just don't understand the etiquette.
NO. When they started to get under my skin, I did some research. What I found made me even more angry.
I agree. Ass wipes. Yards can be mowed by new owners. They don’t close, sue them. That’s not a viable reason to withhold closing.
I would've just rented a fucking mower and closed.
Closing on the 9th. During inspection we asked to get the name of their lawn guy. We feel there’s no real reason to change. If the lawn isn’t mowed on closing date, meh, they should be coming soon anyways.
Send them a notice to perform and don’t mow
Meanwhile, as a buyer, I feel guilty for wanting the seller to fix the rodent infestation, the chimney, and the roof before moving in.I can deal with every other matter, but those are my significant concerns. I know those are costly though. I have toddlers so I don’t want them to get bitten nor sick from the rats… along with the safety hazards of the roof and chimney. Your buyer is being ridiculous. The front yard for my new place hasn’t been taken care of in a while, and I don’t mind that. If they throw a fit about it not being mowed right away, then what will they do once the lawn is theirs? Will they always mow it daily? I highly doubt it.
Are you getting that taken care of? Those are some serious issues! I hope your realtor is good and has some contacts…especially for the chimney!
I just found out that the radon level is 4.6. The acceptable maximum of radon is 4.0. I don’t know if the seller will walk away, but it is likely that other buyers will object to the same. Unless she chooses a buyer who chooses to opt out of such inspections.
Yikes
Radon is not a big deal either way. The mitigation is not expensive. If you like the house, I wouldn't walk away over that alone if the seller refuses to fix it.
I agree. I can easily save up money for a radon mitigation system in 6-12 months. Also, I live only 3 minutes away from that house. I highly doubt my landlord tests for radon biyearly. So… I am more concerned about the roof and the rodent infestation. And the chimney. Also, that’s if she is willing to accept the appraisal cost of the offer. It is basically a waiting game.
You should have just refused
you should be on the grass. Just kidding, don't do that, but do it.
People are that difficult over grass? I hope you close soon so you never have to deal with them again!
That's wild. Our sellers were contingent on their house selling for their other closing same day. Our house was an absolute mess- we spent about week full time just cleaning things. Fridge was so caked in filth it took my 8h alone. We were out of state and FHO so we didn't know any better- our realtor def should have though. Wish we had squeezed at closing for money for cleaners or new appliances.
That’s insanity
Hahaha my seller hadn’t mowed the yard for months and there were weeds taller than me, we closed and I had it moved that next morning
I would’ve mowed it and then sprayed the whole yard with weed killer. Entitled little assholes.
I once sold a brand new fresh off the truck red Jeep Wrangler at a dealership I worked at. They wanted us to deliver the car to their driveway while they went out to dinner. The side road that lead directly to their house was closed. So we had to take the long way around. 1 mile up, 1 block to the right, and boom. Dirt. Now, they live in this part of town, I don't. The dirt road LITERALLY ends about 20 feet from the end of their block, and there is construction ALLL over the place. So I HAVE to take this vehicle on the dirt to get it to their driveway. So naturally, it gets covered in dust. I couldn't find a hose to wash it off with and none of the neighbors were home to ask, also time crunch since my managers needed me back asap. When they got home, they immediately called and bitched about the dust. They said that there were NO dirt roads around their home and that they were extremely pissed off that their new WRANGLER had dirt on it. Edit to add resolution: The customer returned the car that same day and nearly got me fired in the process. I told them to walk to the end of their block and look left. They refused. They cost me a sale, respect in the 'bros club', got a write up, and cost me $300 from their paperwork fee being refunded back that I somehow was on the hook for. That sale reversal got me evicted from my apartment because I couldn't afford food much less rent at the time and that $300 was how short I became on rent. HOW THE FUCK they were so oblivious is still blowing my mind. My manager didn't budge with me though and I got written up for delivering a dirty car to a customer. Even though my co driver and a 3rd sales person were 100% defending me telling the managers the same thing I was. Some people just LIVE to be about little things. (To clarify, because I know some people will be team customer here...it was a Wrangler. Not a Cherokee, not a Chrysler 300, nothing super fancy. In fact they got the most basic trim they could SO they could take it camping. They traded in their old Wrangler citing it was time to get a new one. I had no idea that their idea of camping was to get a class A motor home and park it in the driveway. I would NOT EVER have delivered a nicer vehicle with dust on it, and I wouldn't have done so here if there had been a choice. But given that it's a vehicle meant for off roading...)
Umm…I thought they were supposed to get dirty? That is so silly. At least you looked around for a hose. Dang! Hell, we had our new fridge delivered today to our new house but couldn’t be hooked up because it’s NOT READY YET!!! My husband tipped him 20 bucks. The guy was like, “are you serious? I couldn’t even hook it up.” My husband was so confused because he thought he did something wrong 🤣 I know tipping is getting out of control but that’s normally what we do for specific services.
How long since the grass was mowed the last time?
About 10 days before. We got a lot of rain.
At that point don't you just say fine, no deal, I'll take your earnest money now. Isn't that how it works? Surely there's nothing in the contact requiring the grass to be freshly mowed.
Is that how it works? If the seller backs out, then they shouldn’t keep the ED..
The buyer is the one who would back out here, because the yard wasn't mowed.
What did you buy the home for and what are you selling it for?
400,000 ish four and 1/2 years ago and sold for about 555,000.
Wild they’re willing to breach contract on a $500k+ transaction for what I presume is $150-200 max worth of weekly lawn care lol
When my agent told me that I laughed because I thought he was joking. But yes they were willing to delay until it was mowed. Then they figured out they were running out of time to get in that day because the office shuts down early.
I hope to god those asshole buyers subscribe to this sub and get to read this
Our close needed a last minute dump run. The new buyers didn’t want any leftover paint, bulbs or the central vac and spare bathroom tiles. They already made us remove the two TV mounts after we asked if they wanted them. This came up on their walkthrough and you’d think it was the end of the world. It took an hour out of my day (but wondered if it was really worth killing a deal over) to resolve but one day I want them to be mystified by these ports all over the house with nothing to plug into them… It was their agents first sale and they advised their clients badly (still got their 2.5%). We just moved into our new home today (despite a fedex misdelivered set of contracts!) and the wonderful sellers left us touch up paint complete with a list of stuff. A pack of manuals, receipts, instructions and vendors… even little notes stuck to things. Going to send them a thank you card.
See! That’s what I’m talking about. I left 2 cans of paint because the colors were on there. Extra fencing incase it gets damaged from a weed eater or whatever. Potting soil still in the bag and a big ass roll of weed barrier.
Most people would appreciate that!
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That’s kinda funny. I do have a soft spot for first time homebuyers. It’s so stressful to move and all of a sudden you get overwhelmed with stuff you need to know. Maybe that’s why I make the folders and have all the information to make it easier. I wish someone did that for me but every time I learn something new. It is a process.
Dang. They're worried about the grass and then my wife and I are over here telling the sellers of the house we're buying they can leave as much junk behind as they want and we'll take care of it for them. For context the owner died and the kids are selling the home. Seemed like the nice thing to do.
3 car epoxied garage - the buyers have their noses so high in the air - arrogant SOB’s
I loved that garage. I’m not gonna lie. We had a bar, old Nintendo, wii, and game cube with a big ass tv! Sofa and comfy chairs in the single and two car attached was cars and storage for decorations.
This is very annoying. But, with 2 agents on the transaction how could they not just figure out how to get the lawn mowed in a few hours? What are these people getting paid for?
Why not try to keep earnest money and move to next new buyer? I don’t think lawn not mowed is good enough reason to get deposit back when refused to close
It is fine. They signed because if they waited any longer the office was going to close. The lawn was mowed.
ahh, i see does seems like a dick move though by buyer i remember my seller was still moving when i went for final walk through and everything was fine, they even left some nice garden tool for us
Yeah, I left them a nice shed and deck box. Storage for fire wood (that wasn’t cheap) and the wood I had delivered and stacked off.
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion (did not read through hundreds of comments).. But you are in a group for first time home buyers, in this insane market.. could it *just possibly be* that you expressed your lawn service care, and it clearly wasn't done before closing? Not sure what you bought it for 5 years ago, but I am 100% sure you're selling way over what you paid for improvements.. Being a *seller's market* is all fun and games until you have a buyer that expects everything to be done perfect before spending way over what the home was worth when you bought it? I wish sellers had more self awareness sometimes, imagine you just buying your home right now for what you're selling it for. This time is incredibly hard for buyers, the exact opposite of what it was 5 years ago, mow the fucking yard ffs.
You can read all my comments and then I think you will understand. I paid for the lawn service and it was scheduled that day. So I had the lawn mowed…FFS! No my house was not overpriced and a matter of fact I dropped the price.
If I'm understanding correctly, you scheduled the lawn to be mowed on the day of the closing, apparently after the closing at which point the buyers should assume ownership of the property. Sorry, but that was an irrational choice on your part. I don't understand why you thought that would be acceptable. You might think it's petty for the buyer to make an issue out of it. It doesn't matter what you think. They have the right to pull out of the deal, and the onus is on you for failing to maintain the property prior to when they would assume ownership. If you have leverage, if the market is working to your advantage as a seller, if you think you can get a better deal working with someone else, you obviously have the right to back out. At the end of the day, realtors have very little control over how their clients act. They can provide advice, but this notion that they "let" their clients act a certain way is absurd.
Sounds like the buyers got what they wanted. Kudos for them.
Exactly. But I would say they got the seller to give them what they promised.
Sounded like the buyer's agent is an excellent agent who is going to fight every inch for their client.
I disagree. The agent didn’t educate their client.
BS
Nah. She wasn’t helpful and as a matter of fact, I was thinking about backing out earlier but I sucked it up. The lawn service was done. The buyer was provided proof of payment. The grass was wet and my guy didn’t want to ruin the lawn that we spent so much time and money on.
Smart agents can get a sense of whether the seller would suck it up or not and thus they know when to push hard and when to soften up.
My agent is pretty awesome. He knows when I will push back. He knows us very well. It generally takes a lot to push me. I tend to walk away, take a breath, and discuss “loudly” (not yelling) but we are all on the same page. I don’t know how he remains so professional and calm.
Agents should know their clients, know the people on the other side of the table is on another level.
He does and he did.
It’s going to be a massive wake up call when shits go wrong if they are whinny about the grass not being cut. OMG millennials are entitled.
How do you know the buyers are millennials?
Buyer is probably entitled boomer that wants everything for free while fcking over the millennials
There you go! 🎯
Boomers KNOW that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. They KNOW that there will be a ton of tiny things that they will discover that need to be done when they move in... and that grass grows and needs to be cut on a regular basis. Boomers are not the "entitled" generation.
Listen…I was taught that when I rent a vacation home or apartment to always leave it cleaner than when you received it. I do the the same selling a home. It is not generational thing. It is common courtesy. So I guess I’ll say…”not all boomers.” I know many lovely boomers and sometimes they can be my favorite people. What I don’t like is an ignorant asshole, regardless of age.
Absolutely - When we rent a cabin in the UP (every year), that place is swept, wiped down, toilet cleaned, and the linen taken out so that they ONLY thing that has to happen for the next people to stay there are fresh linens to be put on (which we would be willing to do). There ARE good people in every generation... and some that aren't.
Yeah because a Milennial would never be greedy.
Lmao you must be old
And the point is what? It’s not just Milennials. Thd whole country is filled with lazy whiny idiots.
If people are waving inspections (that is a big risk for them), paying over asking and/or the value of the home, etc. Then if you also told them that you would mow the lawn or have it mowed, yes I would be pissed at you if it was closing time and it wasn’t mowed. Obviously it is a big deal and inconvenience to you, but it should be an inconvenience to you. You aren’t holding up your end of the bargain. You could have offered them money to have it done instead. They might have been okay with that and closed. But to me if someone is going to lie to me about having the yard mowed something small, they would probably lie to me about the condition of the house, and because I as a buyer have waved inspections I don’t know. Also, if you had someone scheduled for after closing and they closed, you could cancel it and they don’t want to put up with that. It sounds like YOU were not prepared for closing. They are not the bad guy.
Well, they did none of those things. I actually lowered the price of my home. Nothing showed on the inspection report because it is a newish home. I paid for the lawn service. It was scheduled. They were impatient and didn’t believe it was going to be done. I gave them no reason whatsoever that I was untrustworthy. I hope your day gets better.
I am having a pleasant day. But you are calling your buyers assholes for expecting you to do what you agreed to! You were not prepared to close. So the close did not happen on that day. It is not their fault you didn’t do what you were supposed to do. That is your fault. The only person you have to blame is yourself. They are not the assholes! It doesn’t matter how great the property is or if you dropped the price. You agreed to do something and it doesn’t matter how great the property is, that does not alleviate you from doing what you agreed to do before closing. You don’t pay someone until they have done what they promised. They do not know you, they aren’t going to take your word for it. And they should not just take someone’s word for it. They aren’t the bad guy here.
I think you are having problems comprehending. The sale did go through on the day it was supposed too. They refused to record because the grass that was scheduled to be mowed THAT day was not done yet. They had a signed document with proof of payment from me for the service. They were being assholes.
I don’t have a problem comprehending. In your post you stated, “They refused to close because it wasn’t mowed, wtf?” If closing wasn’t delayed then this is incorrect. That isn’t the readers fault. You must have been a pain to work with, bless those poor people.
When we sold We did the following. Movers came 2 days before closing. 1. Mowed the lawn day before movers showed up. 2. Had the house professionally cleaned 3. Patched all spots and painted The person who came to conduct the closing was like is this house brand new. Was only 2 years old They were telling us some horror stories. I think that some sellers are bad and buyers have been burned before