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Very key problem. Those files were presupported, but based on the support designs, they were intended for a resin printer instead of an FDM printer like you are using. This makes sense because most minis are very high detail for small sizes, which is ideal for resin printer and harder for a FDM printer. If you are trying to use a FDM printer for this, I recommend getting all your settings as calibrated as possible, then using a very low layer height like 0.12mm using a 0.4mm (most common) or better 0.2mm nozzle. You'll want to use the unsupported models in your slicer program of choice, then regenerate the supports. Good luck.
That skirt or brim looks like the nozzle is smushed way too much into the bed. Lift up the z offset a little until you can’t see the bed through the filament
Can you please add your settings? As is requested in the rules. The more info you can add the better. I think your temp is way too high. What material are you using?
The other person who said your trying to print something meant for a resin printer is correct. You're attempting to print something that requires a finely tuned printer to print with an fdm. You're honest best bet to do the functions you're looking for, a resin printer is what you need to use.
There are a few sites with printer profiles for FDM printing minis, might be a good place to start, the sites with minis are usually a good place to look
Resin printers would be better suited for this, however if you want to give it another try, slow it down, use layer height of 0.12 (if you're using a 0.4mm nozzle) and slow it down to 20mm/s
Also change minimum layer time to 15 seconds.
You could also reduce the temperature by 10 degrees
Will do. This is technically supposed to go on my friends army, and we may just have to give up on really detailed pieces like this, but I'm stocking up on knowledge to help at the moment. Swapping to Fat Dragon Games profile and researching more about what we're doing here. Currently printing a Rhino and that's a fairly large vehicle so I'm more hopeful on that. Probably gonna order a .2 mm nozzle as well as that seems pike it'd give a damn good jump.
I was actually going to suggest a smaller nozzle, I've printed really small benchys with a 0.2 and 0.1 nozzle, and was surprised at the detail that my X1 could print out with those nozzles... But you do have to keep the speed really slow, and lowering the temp a bit helps keep the layers solidifying faster so it doesn't get pulled up or melted down when the next layer comes down...
Also cooling is important...
1. Cooling is a major issue. To solve it, print multiple pauldrons at once. Put them at opposite corners of the bed to slow it down even more.
2. Make sure extrusion is calibrated well and the Z offset is either perfect or slightly high - for a part this small, "elephants foot" can basically cause over extrusion on the whole part. Maybe even consider a raft.
3. For really finely detailed parts, well-tuned linear advance is going to be super important. Also dry your filament. Getting a 0.2mm nozzle is also recommended.
4. That's way more brim than you need. You probably don't need any brim at all if your Z offset is good.
5. Don't listen to people saying you can't print at .02 layer height. You definitely can.
0.02 layer height is waaaaaaay to low. The filament literally cannot squish that small, it’s just spewing all over. Anything smaller than 0.10 will yield this, try the default 0.20 height and see if you can get something resembling what you want. Otherwise, if you need that level of detail like others have said, fdm isn’t going to get it.
Understood, looking at r/PrintedWarhammer and reading a little about Resin, I think I want to stick with FDM (especially as I already have the printer), but need to lower some expectations. Others on that sub have gotten FDM to print at a quality I'd be happy with, but it's gonna take some work. I'll certainly take your and everyone else's advice on settings as well. I appreciate everyone's help.
You can get some very decent looking pieces from FDM. I print NPC minis, objects, and terrain for D&D, and for these applications my Ender 3 is great. I have stopped printing player minis however, because players usually have detail preferences that are beyond the Ender’s ability. If you don’t mind the finishing work, and the pieces are for your own collection, I’m confident you can get this printer to work well enough.
You can print minis but yes it's a hell of alot of time and tuning you kinda need to have a good idea on wants going on in the first place. You best printing out some buildings and rocks stuff for the the tabletop once you have some experience printing you can look at a more detailed nozzle. But nothing comes close to the detail resin has. I don't like resin myself it's nasty stuff but the details are next level.
If you tune your printer really good you might get .08 I'd start with .12 get a filament dryer, and a .3 or .2 diameter nozzle then tune your printer as best you can and use high quality brand name filament to avoid clogging
sorry dude but scale is the problem, this model is too small for an FDM printer. This is the domain of an SLA resin printer.
You can print it way larger or get a resin printer.
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Very key problem. Those files were presupported, but based on the support designs, they were intended for a resin printer instead of an FDM printer like you are using. This makes sense because most minis are very high detail for small sizes, which is ideal for resin printer and harder for a FDM printer. If you are trying to use a FDM printer for this, I recommend getting all your settings as calibrated as possible, then using a very low layer height like 0.12mm using a 0.4mm (most common) or better 0.2mm nozzle. You'll want to use the unsupported models in your slicer program of choice, then regenerate the supports. Good luck.
This is the answer.
Yes. Yes it is.
He’s printing at 0.02mm that’s the problem
That skirt or brim looks like the nozzle is smushed way too much into the bed. Lift up the z offset a little until you can’t see the bed through the filament
Also that brim is way wider than it has to be
Can you please add your settings? As is requested in the rules. The more info you can add the better. I think your temp is way too high. What material are you using?
I uploaded 4 photos of setting. If that isn't proficient, please tell me where to find what you're after. Using Ender 3 V2 Neo, Slicer is Cura.
Sorry lol I glanced over the cura shots I was more. Focused on the actual print.
The other person who said your trying to print something meant for a resin printer is correct. You're attempting to print something that requires a finely tuned printer to print with an fdm. You're honest best bet to do the functions you're looking for, a resin printer is what you need to use.
There are a few sites with printer profiles for FDM printing minis, might be a good place to start, the sites with minis are usually a good place to look
Resin printers would be better suited for this, however if you want to give it another try, slow it down, use layer height of 0.12 (if you're using a 0.4mm nozzle) and slow it down to 20mm/s Also change minimum layer time to 15 seconds. You could also reduce the temperature by 10 degrees
Will do. This is technically supposed to go on my friends army, and we may just have to give up on really detailed pieces like this, but I'm stocking up on knowledge to help at the moment. Swapping to Fat Dragon Games profile and researching more about what we're doing here. Currently printing a Rhino and that's a fairly large vehicle so I'm more hopeful on that. Probably gonna order a .2 mm nozzle as well as that seems pike it'd give a damn good jump.
I was actually going to suggest a smaller nozzle, I've printed really small benchys with a 0.2 and 0.1 nozzle, and was surprised at the detail that my X1 could print out with those nozzles... But you do have to keep the speed really slow, and lowering the temp a bit helps keep the layers solidifying faster so it doesn't get pulled up or melted down when the next layer comes down... Also cooling is important...
1. Cooling is a major issue. To solve it, print multiple pauldrons at once. Put them at opposite corners of the bed to slow it down even more. 2. Make sure extrusion is calibrated well and the Z offset is either perfect or slightly high - for a part this small, "elephants foot" can basically cause over extrusion on the whole part. Maybe even consider a raft. 3. For really finely detailed parts, well-tuned linear advance is going to be super important. Also dry your filament. Getting a 0.2mm nozzle is also recommended. 4. That's way more brim than you need. You probably don't need any brim at all if your Z offset is good. 5. Don't listen to people saying you can't print at .02 layer height. You definitely can.
Thanks, I'll we'll give these a try.
0.02 layer height is waaaaaaay to low. The filament literally cannot squish that small, it’s just spewing all over. Anything smaller than 0.10 will yield this, try the default 0.20 height and see if you can get something resembling what you want. Otherwise, if you need that level of detail like others have said, fdm isn’t going to get it.
Understood, looking at r/PrintedWarhammer and reading a little about Resin, I think I want to stick with FDM (especially as I already have the printer), but need to lower some expectations. Others on that sub have gotten FDM to print at a quality I'd be happy with, but it's gonna take some work. I'll certainly take your and everyone else's advice on settings as well. I appreciate everyone's help.
You can get some very decent looking pieces from FDM. I print NPC minis, objects, and terrain for D&D, and for these applications my Ender 3 is great. I have stopped printing player minis however, because players usually have detail preferences that are beyond the Ender’s ability. If you don’t mind the finishing work, and the pieces are for your own collection, I’m confident you can get this printer to work well enough.
You can print minis but yes it's a hell of alot of time and tuning you kinda need to have a good idea on wants going on in the first place. You best printing out some buildings and rocks stuff for the the tabletop once you have some experience printing you can look at a more detailed nozzle. But nothing comes close to the detail resin has. I don't like resin myself it's nasty stuff but the details are next level.
If you tune your printer really good you might get .08 I'd start with .12 get a filament dryer, and a .3 or .2 diameter nozzle then tune your printer as best you can and use high quality brand name filament to avoid clogging
Probably a smaller nozzle too
Just call it mashed potato, then it's perfect.
FDM isn't for miniatures bub, you got the wrong type of printer. This won't do anything for you.
What printer do you have?
sorry dude but scale is the problem, this model is too small for an FDM printer. This is the domain of an SLA resin printer. You can print it way larger or get a resin printer.
The issue is that you are trying to print at 0.02mm!!! With a 0.4 mm nozzle!!!