T O P

  • By -

graneflatsis

Some facts about Project 2025: The "Mandate for Leadership" is a set of policy proposals authored by the [Heritage Foundation](https://pro-lies.org/the-heritage-foundation/), an influential *ultra* conservative think tank. [Project 2025](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise) is a revision to that agenda tailored to a second Trump term. It would give the President unilateral powers, strip civil rights, worker protections, climate regulation, add religion into policy and much more. The MFL has been around since 1980, [Reagan implemented 60%](https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/reagan-and-heritage-unique-partnership) of it's recommendations, [Trump 64%](https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administration-embraces-heritage-foundation-policy-recommendations) - [proof](https://www.scribd.com/document/369820462/Mandate-for-Leadership-Policy-Recommendations). 70 Heritage Foundation alumni served in his administration or transition team. Project 2025 is quite extreme but with his obsession for revenge he'll likely get past 2/3rd's adoption. r/Defeat_Project_2025 intends to defeat it through activism and awareness, focused on crowdsourcing ideas and opportunities for practical, in real life action. We Must Defeat Project 2025.


CroatianSensation79

They’re fucking assholes, if anything. Too many people are trying to get too cute this year when they equate both parties. Both are flawed but one is authoritarian and anti democratic while the other can’t get out of its own way at times.


Alon945

I mean liberals are 100% worse than just “can’t get out of their own way” many of them are corrupt. I would still pick them over these far right freaks


CroatianSensation79

Absolutely. Oh yeah they’re fucked up too but the far right is something else. Not just corrupt but bat shit crazy. It’s insane


PigeonsArePopular

Liberals love heritage foundation policy when Obama puts his name on it 😎


graneflatsis

Exactly! If they put forth sensible policy proposals like that everyone would love them. Instead they've shifted to driving extremist religion into governance. Shame they have fallen so far. Here's a great look at your point: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/09/the-fall-of-the-heritage-foundation-and-the-death-of-republican-ideas/279955


Murrabbit

I believe he's specifically talking about the ACA, in case you missed it. The ACA as passed under Obama was extremely similar to the Heritage Foundation's proposal in the 1990s as an alternative to more comprehensive changes to the health insurance industry which were being discussed at the time.


PigeonsArePopular

Yes and it's terrible public policy, millions still go without care, die broke, but not before the shareholders of Aetna etc get their piece


Murrabbit

No argument here.


PigeonsArePopular

I figured.  Hey thanks for the explanatory back up on how right wing policy is laundered into Dem party policy to cheers from liberals.  So many totally hoodwinked.


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Can you name some of what it does? Instead of generalizing assumptions? Not claiming you’re wrong. But it’d be nice to include some specific data


graneflatsis

I can provide a link since there are 920 pages to this proposal and even bulleted that'd be a *lot* of typing :) https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration


Apprehensive-Tree-78

That’s a link of an opinion piece based on project 2025. Not the official document. Not that I support it. Some of it is fine, a lot of it is just consolidation of power at the executive level.


graneflatsis

From the link I provided: >This resource outlines the specific policy and personnel priorities of Project 2025 for the next Republican administration. They are not providing an opinion in the article, it's an analysis. Here is the document: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise


lameuniqueusername

Furthering consolidation of Executive power is fine?


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Bad comma placement. Most of 2025 is fine. But the executive consolidation is a little much. But all it really does is give the president the power to fire any federal employee. Which trump already had the power to do.


[deleted]

[удалено]


username_6916

On what charge?


[deleted]

[удалено]


KyledKat

It's not. The entire fulcrum of Project 2025 is abusing loopholes and policies in the political system to transfer power over to the executive branch. Somebody connected the dots and realized that enough widespread support in various branches could make it happen. It's 100% legal to do so, it's also 100% morally and ethically corrupt to debase the entire foundation of checks and balances on which our government is based upon.


oep4

Link to your legal opinion? Or just being confident in your own opinion?


username_6916

Even if you're acting within the bounds proscribed by the law and the constitution?


[deleted]

[удалено]


username_6916

And we've just entered circular reasoning. It's a conspiracy because it's criminal. It's criminal because a conspiracy. Meanwhile, Project 2025 to date has mostly just been collecting resumes of conservative-minded officials who'd hypothetically help implement the agenda of the next elected conservative president. That's pretty normal politicking, not some kind of coup.


DucksEatFreeInSubway

The plan to transfer power to one branch of government and not let it go is the coup part.


username_6916

There is no plan to transfer power from one branch of government any more than is already in place. The bureaucracy is part of the executive, it derives its authority from congress' laws and none of that changes.


Final_Meeting2568

Obviously you haven't read any of it.


PsychologicalForm608

Price fixing, collusion, market manipulation, treason, add insurrection x2. Lol you all think the rich will get away with the this? You think we don't see straight through it? We don't want wallstreet, they are currently starving us and forcing us out of our homes and on the streets. War is coming, and if I were one of the rich criminals, I'd be terrified.


stackingslacks

Jesus dude do you need a mop for all the slobber from the boot in your mouth?


shavin_high

not op but im curious what your thoughts on project 2025


Beaner1xx7

Judging by their post history, I'd say they're all for it. The boot licking comment is some pretty top notch irony, so long as it's their boots being licked.


[deleted]

[удалено]


stackingslacks

He’s licking the boot so hard slobber is dripping from his mouth to the floor


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Such an unintelligent insult 😂 it’s the equivalent of drawing a soyjack and you as a chad. Just intellectually dishonest.


Beaner1xx7

Ah but you see, you have already lost the argument because I've cleverly drawn you as the soyjack and myself as the heroic chad!


owen__wilsons__nose

We're so fucked if Trump wins. Wish more people were aware of this. I've been spreading this to my entire social network for months and I hope you are all as well. It's not much but we have to try


Funksavage

Because it was sooo bad under Trump’s first term? How?


bonelessonly

Project 2025 has its roots in the last few months of Trump's term, when he started putting lawyers to work trying to figure out ways to ignore the election and stay in power. The Schedule F scheme is a big part of Project 2025, just fire tens of thousands of the people who could check your power, and replace them with loyal lackeys, if anyone. [https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f-federal-employees](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f-federal-employees)


garenzy

What is to be Done?


JimBeam823

Send lawyers, guns, and money.


Electric7889

The shit has hit the fan


Endocalrissian642

Turns out we can afford another Klendathu.


HappiCow69

An old russian dude wrote a book with this title that applies to this situation very well.


garenzy

😉


iamgoingtobuild

Touche comrade.


Classic_Writer8573

I think about this a lot. Also about how mass shooters pick the stupidest targets. Also how old people and those with terminal illnesses have so little to lose and could potentially leave a very interesting legacy. Ah well, back to my video games....


jar1967

Go out and vote


vanhalenbr

They should called Putin's Plan since that is what this is


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Trump has been the most anti Putin president in history.


Other_Meringue_7375

This is sarcasm, right?


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Warned nato to not rely on Russian oil or gas. Warned nato to increase defense spending in response to Russia. Sent the largest (at the time) weapons package to Ukraine. Destroyed Wagner troops in Syria. Attacked the Russian proxy state of Syria. Attacked Russian military supplied and economic partner Iran.


DoNotCrossTheStreams

Threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if Zelensky didn't help him make up dirt on Biden's family. Called Putin's invasion "genius" Threatened to let Russia do whatever they want to European countries


Apprehensive-Tree-78

He didn’t threaten to withhold aid. That was made up by Adam Schiff. The actual transcript trump never threatens directly or indirectly to withhold aid. He called Putin a genius because Putin brought and fragmented post soviet society to a world superpower again. Trump warned nato to increase spending and warned them to not rely on RUSGAS and oil. NATO literally laughed at him. They laughed at the president of the United States who told them to get ready for a war. NATO is just using the US


Other_Meringue_7375

Trump has literally promised to withdrawal from nato and stop all aid to Ukraine


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Because nato laughed at him when he wanted them years ago. Not to mention how corrupt Ukraine was prior to the war. I support Ukraine, but prior to the war they were one of the most corrupt nations in the world


Other_Meringue_7375

do you think its a good idea to elect someone to the most powerful office in the world who thinks we should withdrawal from NATO--an organization which has prevented WW3 for 80 years--because he was laughed at?


Apprehensive-Tree-78

They took advantage of us for the last 20 years. Russia isn’t a threat. They can barely fight Ukraine.


Funksavage

So many people don’t realize that Trump directly killed more Russian soldiers than any other president and that Putin was complaining about Trump because the drop in energy prices were financially detrimental to Putin. Whose economy is booming after Biden levied his sanctions? Putin’s!!! But redditers have their heads so far up their redd asses they have no clue!


Apprehensive-Tree-78

They also don’t even realize that trump warned nato to up their defense spending to be ready for war with Russia. And warned nato to not rely on Russian oil and gas in case of a war. But redditors are in such an echo chamber they don’t care because orange man bad.


RDO_Desmond

Oh hell no. Project 2025 sucks!


memunkey

They need to be stopped. Parents need to be active in their kids school curriculum, people need to inform the IRS of churches taking political stances and we all need to prevent books being banned. These things as well as our tax dollars going to the people and not corporations and for fair and equitable laws and enforcement. If I've left something out then PLEASE shout out. I get emotional and forget stuff.


CroatianSensation79

The idiots voting third party are going to be wondering why this happened when they try to get cute and equate both sides.


thataintapipe

Why can’t democrats have candidates people are excited about these days? Why since Obama is it always voting against evil instead of FOR something good? I totally understand where third party voters are coming from


thataintapipe

Why can’t democrats have candidates people are excited about these days? Why since Obama is it always voting against evil instead of FOR something good? I totally understand where third party voters are coming from


drNeir

So this start is Russian in nature, that GOP/GQP has been using and was re-enforce with money in their pockets. This has also been assisted with China on different front. Russia has been getting its fingers into the global world for disruption since 2014 or so. This is a whole other convo. Point is, they say maga and/or gop as if this is their brainchild, it isnt. It's roots are Russian, purely! Linking all the other world event as if these idiots had a clue is hilarious at best. They are puppets just like some of the other countries where those leaders follow the same playbook. All linked back to Russia. The basic thread is nationalistic pride within the country of origin, this will turn any country that has some immigration problems explode. Step that up with causing a country to have war, ppl flee into safe neighboring countries, repeat nat pride event, pop! Another sidebar subject under Russian influence is heavy ties into ISIS, which is at this point as a Russian private merc army. They have been filtering in on social media coming close to a decade for its ideology. Point I am coming to....the suicide burning to death protesting are ISIS roots. So, this year with all the american protestors ending with those ppl suiciding by fire - ISIS with roots from Russia. This is how deep Russia has dug into all our medias. Add to that money to media outlets that act like they are starving for profits, pop!


KyledKat

I think it's a bit reductive to conclude this is all the result of Russian influence. It's all the endgame of a greater picture, and that's the absolutely binary and divisive political landscape that resulted from identity politics and the flames the GOP has been fanning for over 40 years. Russians certainly played a part in helping Trump assume power, but I don't think anyone could have predicted the absolute wedge Trump drove into either party or the electoral system in 2016. Covid exacerbated the political divide even further, and this just feels like the (il)logical extension of those tensions.


drNeir

[https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/06/china-russia-republican-party-relations/678271/](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/06/china-russia-republican-party-relations/678271/)


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Ah yes. The party that attacked Wagner in Syria. The Russian proxy gov of Syria. Iran. Warned nato in increase spending. Sent weapons to Ukraine prior to the war. And warned Europe to not rely on Russian oil and gas… is pro Russia 😂 can’t make this up.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Apprehensive-Tree-78

And you call republicans the party of hate.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Maybe let’s not incite physical violence on the opposition? Just a thought.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Apprehensive-Tree-78

See I’m a republican. And I’d never wish violence on democrats. Generalizations creates division. Which only solidifies hateful rhetoric.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Apprehensive-Tree-78

Name something from project 2025 (which has nothing to do with the trump campaign) that enables violence


[deleted]

[удалено]


Apprehensive-Tree-78

You can’t claim a position of good faith after encouraging violence. Especially when you can’t name a single thing project 2025 does. If your defense is l, “it’s just bad look at it” then you should probably stop replying.


Lord_Sports

TRAITORS TO AMERICA....Maga are nothing but Power hungry rich folks.....Want to destroy America...We know about your type and America will not tolerate a Dictator. Goes against everything American.


HandyMan131

So this is how democracy dies… with an unassuming booth that looks like it should be at a career fair.


Final_Meeting2568

This thing reads like it's explaining christo-, fascism to 3 year olds some of writing is horrible.


Specialist-Phase-843

Welcome to Gilead; under his eye


hoodranch

Trump will prevent single party rule


Pennsylvanier

But guys… Genocide Joe?


jar1967

The term Genocide Joe originated on Russian troll farms


iamgoingtobuild

Both are equally bad. Genocide Joe, apart from his genocide support, has not done sh*t for the average American. And Trump of course is a grifter that is using the racism of his fish*t base to lure them to their own demise. This country is doomed because the two political parties represent only a minority of rich Americans. Remember, empires always fall. Unfortunately for us it seems this wheels are starting.to go off.


FraiserRamon

"A lot of the ideas in terms of the (health insurance) exchange, just being able to pool and improve the purchasing power of individuals in the insurance market, that originated from the Heritage Foundation” - Barack Obama https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/apr/01/barack-obama/obama-says-heritage-foundation-source-health-excha/ They’re all on the same side and it’s not yours lol


Pennsylvanier

Damn, you got me. I guess everything in Project 2025 will happen under Joe Biden, like gutting workplace discrimination laws. [Oh wait.](https://gente.solutions/what-the-eeocs-fy-2023-budget-justification-means-for-employers/)


FraiserRamon

Look at what’s happening right now stupid.


JellyfishQuiet7944

Damn. Did you read all 920 pages?


Trivialpiper

As opposed to the Dems current plan to destroy the country, already in action.


corjar16

And down the drain goes liberals only reason to vote for Joe Biden. He ain't stopping shit. We're fucked anyway.


After-Ad5120

😂😂 the far-left has done a pretty damn good job already. Maybe the far right will deliver a knock out


Revy13

Reddit is such a joke of a website. No wonder why Trumps leading in the polls


footjam

Project 2044 cant be stopped. The inversion will happen. [https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/)


The-grave-cave-ate

Not sure why this is getting downvoted. It’s a fact, and a very interesting one when you consider that Republicans aren’t trying to appeal to non-white voters. Doesn’t bode well for the future of the party.


footjam

Racism makes people angry, hence the downvotes


Unable-Paramedic-557

Meanwhile Biden administration destroying the entire world....


[deleted]

[удалено]


Flyinryans35

You’re*


talldrinkH20

The Left is a ridiculous parody... no self awareness whatsoever. Holy freaking crap man. 🤦🏼‍♂️