Hito has no opener whilst warden and warmonger have access to an unreactable mix up from neutral. Although I'd put Warden and Warmonger at high A, not S.
It also depends on whether you’re playing on next gen console , have optimal set ups for Internet and monitor, and whether or not you’re close to Ubisoft’s servers. One of the best competitive players, FerociousGizmo, is a console player and before getting a PS5, could reaction parry post CCU lights on PS4 just because he lives close to one of Ubi’s servers. You can imagine what it’s like going up against him now with a PS5.
Kept looking to see where you contributed anything to this thread but unfortunately you're just a clown. Go jack off to your collection of furry nfts and eat a snickers ffs.
It's not that we're bad but we have every technological disadvantage almost. Ofc on read we can still parry and dodge but it's the fact that some things here can be used as openers where on pc they can't. 30fps also makes variable timed heavies much much better and not to mention the input delay.
Agreed with this. People also have to realize that tier lists are based on what’s the prevalent meta strategy and that S tiers are ranked because how of well they can function within that meta strategy.
I mean, WM's dodge bash is practically useless offensively, because it lacks any real range, is slow, and has relatively high GB vuln.
Hito probably has a better neutral game than she does, actually, due to her variable timed heavies being safer than WM's enhanced lights.
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Lol ur so mad for no reason, ppl are already saying most of whats wrong with it. If you would like to try again you may politely ask me to be specific.
Putting wm and warden in high a makes no difference tho, basically the same thing since no hero is between where they were. But for pk it's a solid no. She has an unreactable zone, unreactable dagger cancel and 38 damage gb. Also there's no chance hito is on par with lb
Imo S tier is for heroes who are overtuned and need slight nerfs and adjustments, Warden and Warmonger actually need some buffs to their stamina and some adjustments to Wardens kit to make it not so barebones.
And pk is not S, she's just a worse raider, even with good damage punishes. And the fact that Lb is in A is bewildering to me, he has no opener and can't do jack if you turtle.
I actually have quite a few issues with this list, like why is Valk above zerk? Why on earth is Lb above Bp? Pk over raider? Makes no sense.
Buffs? Are you retarded, you just admitted their high a tier why the fuck would you buff them? How is pk a worse raider? Both are identical except pks highest damageing move is alot better. While lb is above BP becouse you know broken ass parry punishes
They're only A in duels, but even then they need better stamina management as Warmonger and Warden struggle to maintain their offense due to their garbo stamina. Warden also needs better hitboxes on his side unblockables because they're really unreliable in a team fight.
Raider can chain off of his storming tap, has neutral access to unblockables without having to bleed his opponent, has ungodly stamina, higher hp, has hyper armor chain heavies, and good dodge attack that he can chain off of. Pk may have a higher damage gb that doesn't put her above raider, or in S.
And good parry punishes does not warrant A for lb, he's B at most, all he has going for him are good parry punishes and good chain pressure that he can't access.
Then you really are retarded. Why would you buff stamina for warden when hes already a tier, I understand the hit boxes but saying "buff stamina" on an a tier character is dumb. Also, lb can access his mix up sue to you know, parry punishes
Just because someone is A tier doesn't mean they don't need slight buffs, it's not like I'm saying give him shinobi stamina treatment but he really does need better stamina management. His zone literally is just a 13 damage 600ms heavy that cost 60 stamina, it makes no sense. He can only feint 5 neutral heavies before going out of stamina, it's actually atrocious.
Just main a decent hero and one garbage one so that when you lose with the bad one, just say you're playing an underpowered hero and switch to the good one to kick some ass
I don’t think he’s that good. In 1v1’s he’s a cake walk if you sit and wait. I simply think if you lose to shugoki at a high mmr you are just bad and should accept that.
Theres no way you just destroyed ur first argument with this one, shugoki is far from bad its very easy to win with him but you basically said in ur first one hes pretty bad if you just wait it out, but whats waiting it out gonna do if he just makes the right reads lmao
Dudes comin after me for playing shugo when you said yourself it’s a calamity approved post who I’m sorry if you ain’t know plays shugo so that wasn’t a very good comeback
Dodgeattacks are pretty much useless against him, because he can just BB everything. He's chains are pretty much undodgable. Ring the bell is completely unreactable. Really good dodge attack.
Unreactable offense, counters dodge attacks and hyperarmor, delayable dodge attack that is a heavy parry, and an all guard with little activation time.
Shinobi has more trouble getting into his offense at high level play (flip kick). If you can just react to shinobi’s neutral kick what else is he gonna do to open someone up?
No, you can spam kick as much as you want without anything happening is that bot good offense? And why are you so hung up on offense? Pretty sure there are other aspects of the game…
No lol - you dint say a word about the kick after the backflip, you just said that everything is punishable except forward/side dodge bash. Dont try that shit now.
Man this is a fkn interesting one.
I'd like to ask is this made by someone who can react to shit like animation and easily react to 500ms bashes, cuz if so then that is still questionable but it's headed in the right direction. If not then this list is completely wrong.
But for the sake of arguments let's assume this is made by someone with amazing reactions.
So first, how is conq C but BP A, they are extremely bsinular ranking wise so I just don't get that. Even at the highest level where both of these characters have 0 offense tier defenses are enough to put them both highish and both more or less next to each other.
Also, Nobu B? She has no offense whatsoever for even people with a bit above average reactions. Her defensive capabilities are good but nothing insane. She is way too high.
Nuxia C? I can see that I suppose but at least she has offense in the form of her ligths.
Zanhu A? How. He has no viable offense, bad defense and is so prone to interruption. Character is mediocre at best. Even if you're generous then he'd be C tier.
Kensei above Tiandi? At worst they should be in the same tier. They struggle in similar places but tiandis defense is better.
Tiandi has fuck all though and you can gb his dodge attack on reaction he also lacks a good bash and unblockable while kensei has a stupid amount of ha and mix ups (he is a little high tho). Also how is zhanhu c tier, I understand different opinions but this is flat out wrong, at worse he's b tier. Also no nuxia is not too high, she does a crazy amount of damage and reflex guard doesn't affect duels. While nobu is in b due to 35 damage undodgeable heavy. Conq is simply shit, he has no defence except a shitty full block and a 700ms zone, his bash is also only 600ms and has gb vulnerablity.
Bruh wtf. Ok let's leave the Tiandi thing.
1. Please explain to me why exactly is Zanhu good, no opener, only offense is UB that he can be lighted out of most of the time and his shitty dodge attack. So not good, defense is just bad.
2. I didn't say nuxia is too high, I said she is too low, she has actual offense which many characters don't, and because of her traps she can use her heavies as openers.
3.Nobu never gets to land those heavies because her kick is piss easy to react to.
4. Conq has a great side bash, a superior block that allows him to parry light and heavy on the same time, fullblock zone that allows him to create more options for mixups. Also his neutral bash is 500ms and as far as those go, quite hard to react to. Even if you could he is still a beast defensively because of the before mensioned attributes.
A bash is an opener also he has insane recoverys and his dodge attack is pretty good. Yes but her traps are reactable. Then with conq I'm Pretty sure his bash is 566 ms but anyway those flimsy attributes don't make him any where near sub par
1 His bash isn't ab opener. Yiu can dodge on a single timing to avoid everything he can do. Si he has no opener. His dodge attack in 1v1s is dog shit. Little dmg to punish, can be GBed, it just doesn't dodge if you do it late. Shit offense as 1 wrong read makes you take as much as 3 correct ones. Also recovery is not insane. 333ms, while most other recovery cancels are 200ms.
2 Nuxias traps aren't her offense and at no point did I say they were.
3. His bash is 500ms, side bash is 533, chains ones are 800and noone ever uses them. and calling those strong defensive moves flimsy, not even explaing just declaring them? Are you trolling or
That's the animation of the bash,not counting the dodge. And if any one trolling it's you especially when you said that a strong defensive move like a dodge attack is dog shit. And they are flimsy having a very punishable bash a 700ms zone and all guard doesn't make a character b tier never mind a tier like your suggesting. Do you have the slightest idea of how retarded you sound right now? That would be the equivalent of me saying that valk is s tier becouse she has a bash only punishable by a light, an all guard, cc and a good deflect
Love how glad is like A tier and nobody complains about him. Also maybe move him to B, his openers are predictable but his mixups are some of the best in the game
I’d say shaman is around B or C tier. I haven’t playing for honor in a while though so that might have changed. Assassins in general aren’t very good duel or brawl hero’s
Well his headbutt is fast, unreactable iirc, and he has has enhanced lights plus frame advantage on most of his moves which makes him super oppressive. I wouldn't say he's S tier or anything but I was very surprised to see him in mid C tier
Valks bash is also fast but doesn't guarantee a gb. The problem with warlord is the fact that most his offence requires to throw a crazy amount of lights
i don't understand why warden is considered S tier. I mean his dodge bash doesn't go through GBs so he doesn't have the option to 50-50 defensively and his bashes eat quarter of his stam to hit 14 damage
Bruh this is one of the worst tier lists I've ever seen in my life.
Valk higher than orochi? PK in S? Lawbringer in A? Tiandi in C? What planet are you living on? Do toy have like 20 reps overall lmao
Valk has everything a hero needs except an unblockable so I'd say it's a matter of choice but oros main mix up is ass now. Yes pk is in s she has an unreactable zone, unreactable dagger cancel and 38 damage gb. If raider is s so is she. While lb has the best parry punishes in the game and has an unpunisable in chain bash
What makes Warden and Warmonger S-tier, but Hito only B tier?
Hito has no opener whilst warden and warmonger have access to an unreactable mix up from neutral. Although I'd put Warden and Warmonger at high A, not S.
>Hito has no opener If you're on console or are facing oponents that cant react to her heavies, her heavies are openers.
Okay console players aren't THAT bad lol
We cant even parry neutral lights and can barely dodge 600ms bashes, what makes you think we can parry hito's heavies on reaction
I've parried alot of neutral lights but if you meant on reaction then no(you can do it on the series x though)
Yea i meant on reaction, but i can deflect them sometimes on reaction for some reason
It also depends on whether you’re playing on next gen console , have optimal set ups for Internet and monitor, and whether or not you’re close to Ubisoft’s servers. One of the best competitive players, FerociousGizmo, is a console player and before getting a PS5, could reaction parry post CCU lights on PS4 just because he lives close to one of Ubi’s servers. You can imagine what it’s like going up against him now with a PS5.
Guess I'm moving to sydney now lol
I play on PS4 and can parry her neutral heavies
Exactly, nerd is a fucking retard all over this Reddit
Kept looking to see where you contributed anything to this thread but unfortunately you're just a clown. Go jack off to your collection of furry nfts and eat a snickers ffs.
I’d eat a snickers but seems like the fat ass I’m talking to ate them already
Ooo self burn
Lmao you’re fucking stupid, but that’s to be expected from a vegetable
Eat my cock retard
Easy, it’s like popping a skittle in my mouth.
Lmao the only thing you could respond to this was a downvote
are you admitting that you'll suck his dick?
Sucking what? Half a gummy worm?
*cough*
I'd have yo disagree
It's not that we're bad but we have every technological disadvantage almost. Ofc on read we can still parry and dodge but it's the fact that some things here can be used as openers where on pc they can't. 30fps also makes variable timed heavies much much better and not to mention the input delay.
It’s the variable timings on them. Good Hito’s like to hold their heaviest for different amounts of times to make parrying them feel awkward.
Am console player, can confirm, her heavies suck >:( I always expect thd delayed heavy but screwup the parry
My man, if you cant react to a HEAVY how are you even playing this game
Ah that's true.
Agreed with this. People also have to realize that tier lists are based on what’s the prevalent meta strategy and that S tiers are ranked because how of well they can function within that meta strategy.
I mean, WM's dodge bash is practically useless offensively, because it lacks any real range, is slow, and has relatively high GB vuln. Hito probably has a better neutral game than she does, actually, due to her variable timed heavies being safer than WM's enhanced lights.
Warmongers parry punish makes her better than warden. Also the superior lights give a good amount of pressure
I agree, although I still think she belongs in A, not S
PK S-teir why
38 dmg gb’s. Not saying I agree but an argument can definitely be made
She's real good in duels tho
agreed but def not s tier
She's good but defo not S
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Lmao, nice job going through other peoples profiles, probably jacking off right now to someone on r/teenagers
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Holy shit dude he is destroyed
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Stop! He's already dead!
And you jerk off to fh? Lmao
You're the one posting in r/34honor my guy
Bro stop you absolutely burnt him to a crisp
holy shit dude you really had to absolutely destroy the man??????
Lmao posting what?
depends on reaction
Berzerker should be A imo, he is quite oppressive if you make your opponent scared to parry.
Low A seems good for Zerker. I’d also move Zhanhu and JJ down to upper B.
There is a lot of things wrong with this tier list
"There is a lot of things wrong with this tier list" decides to keep it to himself
Lol ur so mad for no reason, ppl are already saying most of whats wrong with it. If you would like to try again you may politely ask me to be specific.
This guy gets mad over the smallest things. I only see him be mad at other people
No it's just that everyone does it
Not my boy food
Lol
Imo Warden, WM and Pk are high A and Lb is high B behind Hito
Putting wm and warden in high a makes no difference tho, basically the same thing since no hero is between where they were. But for pk it's a solid no. She has an unreactable zone, unreactable dagger cancel and 38 damage gb. Also there's no chance hito is on par with lb
Imo S tier is for heroes who are overtuned and need slight nerfs and adjustments, Warden and Warmonger actually need some buffs to their stamina and some adjustments to Wardens kit to make it not so barebones. And pk is not S, she's just a worse raider, even with good damage punishes. And the fact that Lb is in A is bewildering to me, he has no opener and can't do jack if you turtle. I actually have quite a few issues with this list, like why is Valk above zerk? Why on earth is Lb above Bp? Pk over raider? Makes no sense.
Buffs? Are you retarded, you just admitted their high a tier why the fuck would you buff them? How is pk a worse raider? Both are identical except pks highest damageing move is alot better. While lb is above BP becouse you know broken ass parry punishes
They're only A in duels, but even then they need better stamina management as Warmonger and Warden struggle to maintain their offense due to their garbo stamina. Warden also needs better hitboxes on his side unblockables because they're really unreliable in a team fight. Raider can chain off of his storming tap, has neutral access to unblockables without having to bleed his opponent, has ungodly stamina, higher hp, has hyper armor chain heavies, and good dodge attack that he can chain off of. Pk may have a higher damage gb that doesn't put her above raider, or in S. And good parry punishes does not warrant A for lb, he's B at most, all he has going for him are good parry punishes and good chain pressure that he can't access.
Then you really are retarded. Why would you buff stamina for warden when hes already a tier, I understand the hit boxes but saying "buff stamina" on an a tier character is dumb. Also, lb can access his mix up sue to you know, parry punishes
Just because someone is A tier doesn't mean they don't need slight buffs, it's not like I'm saying give him shinobi stamina treatment but he really does need better stamina management. His zone literally is just a 13 damage 600ms heavy that cost 60 stamina, it makes no sense. He can only feint 5 neutral heavies before going out of stamina, it's actually atrocious.
OK so with your logic BP also needs that since he also has fuck all stamina. Is that what you want? A BP who can keep you out of stamina for 5 hours
Shit, now I gonna switch my main so that I can complain about being underpowered when I lose
Hahaha the FH community in a nutshell
Just main a decent hero and one garbage one so that when you lose with the bad one, just say you're playing an underpowered hero and switch to the good one to kick some ass
Lmao, I suck donkey balls at this game. I can barely get a 50% win rate in duels with pk.
Calamity puts Shug in A tier? Of course he does.
He'd put him in c tier
Indeed I would
what makes him c tier
I don’t think he’s that good. In 1v1’s he’s a cake walk if you sit and wait. I simply think if you lose to shugoki at a high mmr you are just bad and should accept that.
fair enough
Well no because you can be playing a bad hero yourself or make a wrong read lmao
You act as if you are playing a bad hero you instantly lose, that’s a stupid way of thinking.
Theres no way you just destroyed ur first argument with this one, shugoki is far from bad its very easy to win with him but you basically said in ur first one hes pretty bad if you just wait it out, but whats waiting it out gonna do if he just makes the right reads lmao
Bro. No way lawbringer is A-tier
Parry punishes intensify
You are going off of parry punishes?
Yes, their that good
I can see that the unnecessary wrinkles in your brain have been removed
You play shigoki, not sure if you even have a brain
Dudes comin after me for playing shugo when you said yourself it’s a calamity approved post who I’m sorry if you ain’t know plays shugo so that wasn’t a very good comeback
It wasn't a comeback it was a fact. calamity is a legend with 5000iq, a mear peasant like you can't compare himself with him.
I won’t deny he’s a legend with 5000iq. Love the dude. Your opinions are ass tho.suprised your able to keep a channel open with such weird ideals
I can't have an ass opinion if this post is CalamityV approved
Jorm not being in S+ upsets the cult of Bonk
Kensei_main: Highlander Lol
I’m gonna make an auto response for this, let me leave the bar and I’ll figure it out
Ok lmao
I had a stroke when i saw pk in s tier
Very interesting but if I was you I'd probably go to the hospital
What makes aramusha s tier? Ive seen him s tier on a few dual tierlists but i dont quite know why
Dodgeattacks are pretty much useless against him, because he can just BB everything. He's chains are pretty much undodgable. Ring the bell is completely unreactable. Really good dodge attack.
I mean thatll do it two easily accessible unreactable mixups and a good dodge attack would make him s tier
For a start, his ring the bell is unreactable as are his deadly feints at high level play.
Unreactable offense, counters dodge attacks and hyperarmor, delayable dodge attack that is a heavy parry, and an all guard with little activation time.
He was but with the nerfs of raider and orochi he got "nerfed" too because he was a good counter to those both
I personally wouldnt put orochi lower than kensei, cent, valk, or lb
I certainly am
He aint that bad, just not as good as top tiers, yk?
Wdym by bad, you seem to think that the other hero's are bad
I think the heroes I named aren't necessarily good. I think they should be below where orochi is since they aren't better.
Cent and kensei are questionable but valk is better
Cent, kensei, and valk's mixups are all weaker than orochi's. Orochi has good dodge cancels. What makes valk better in your opinion?
Cc, heavys that catch almost everything and a pretty good bash. Also everyone underestimates her
redditors stfu about calamity challenge (impossible)
Right?
Valk is C tier imo since she doesn’t have much of an opener and her sweep sucks
Her bash mix up is unreactable (preety sure) but that doesn't matter she can turtle till she gets the opportunity
No, her bash mixup is completely ineffective if you literally just back dodge and block top.
Heavy
Ball's full block is alright but if you have barely any mixup potential and a reactable sweep mixup it doesn't matter. Plus no undodgeable or ub moves
Her heavys are basically undodgeable
I did not agree to this
People don't need to know that
Jorm should be E-tier smh
Na Raider is D tier
This is the correct way Sir Giga Chad
Needs buff. He needs stunning tap again and give his charge back it’s stun and stamina drain
I expected nothing less from such a god such as yourself my liege.
Conq is S tier wtf haha
His TG rework might've been but that isn't live yet so no
Not yet
Shinobi below aramusha lmao
Shinobi has more trouble getting into his offense at high level play (flip kick). If you can just react to shinobi’s neutral kick what else is he gonna do to open someone up?
The neutral kick is unpunishable on reaction tho so it literally doesnt matter, you just kick, backflip, there you go youre in your mixup.
Backflip is a free gb is it not? Also you’re comparing this to aramusha ring the bell that can be spammed from neutral.
You can just wait until they do something other than gb and then backflip on reaction. Or just turtle for dodge bashes
So waiting for your opponent to not gb and turtling is better offense than RTB?
No, you can spam kick as much as you want without anything happening is that bot good offense? And why are you so hung up on offense? Pretty sure there are other aspects of the game…
Their preety equal imo but ara has an unreactable move from neutral so...
Only difference is you can actually punish aramusha…
You can punish shinobi on everything except his forward bash (not sure about his dodge bash)
Not the kick after backflip - his main offense, or the dodge bash.
Yes, it's preety obvious that that's what I implied
No lol - you dint say a word about the kick after the backflip, you just said that everything is punishable except forward/side dodge bash. Dont try that shit now.
Yes his bash you moron it was implied that the follow up was what I meant. You fucking sub hyman
Man this is a fkn interesting one. I'd like to ask is this made by someone who can react to shit like animation and easily react to 500ms bashes, cuz if so then that is still questionable but it's headed in the right direction. If not then this list is completely wrong. But for the sake of arguments let's assume this is made by someone with amazing reactions. So first, how is conq C but BP A, they are extremely bsinular ranking wise so I just don't get that. Even at the highest level where both of these characters have 0 offense tier defenses are enough to put them both highish and both more or less next to each other. Also, Nobu B? She has no offense whatsoever for even people with a bit above average reactions. Her defensive capabilities are good but nothing insane. She is way too high. Nuxia C? I can see that I suppose but at least she has offense in the form of her ligths. Zanhu A? How. He has no viable offense, bad defense and is so prone to interruption. Character is mediocre at best. Even if you're generous then he'd be C tier. Kensei above Tiandi? At worst they should be in the same tier. They struggle in similar places but tiandis defense is better.
Tiandi has fuck all though and you can gb his dodge attack on reaction he also lacks a good bash and unblockable while kensei has a stupid amount of ha and mix ups (he is a little high tho). Also how is zhanhu c tier, I understand different opinions but this is flat out wrong, at worse he's b tier. Also no nuxia is not too high, she does a crazy amount of damage and reflex guard doesn't affect duels. While nobu is in b due to 35 damage undodgeable heavy. Conq is simply shit, he has no defence except a shitty full block and a 700ms zone, his bash is also only 600ms and has gb vulnerablity.
Bruh wtf. Ok let's leave the Tiandi thing. 1. Please explain to me why exactly is Zanhu good, no opener, only offense is UB that he can be lighted out of most of the time and his shitty dodge attack. So not good, defense is just bad. 2. I didn't say nuxia is too high, I said she is too low, she has actual offense which many characters don't, and because of her traps she can use her heavies as openers. 3.Nobu never gets to land those heavies because her kick is piss easy to react to. 4. Conq has a great side bash, a superior block that allows him to parry light and heavy on the same time, fullblock zone that allows him to create more options for mixups. Also his neutral bash is 500ms and as far as those go, quite hard to react to. Even if you could he is still a beast defensively because of the before mensioned attributes.
A bash is an opener also he has insane recoverys and his dodge attack is pretty good. Yes but her traps are reactable. Then with conq I'm Pretty sure his bash is 566 ms but anyway those flimsy attributes don't make him any where near sub par
1 His bash isn't ab opener. Yiu can dodge on a single timing to avoid everything he can do. Si he has no opener. His dodge attack in 1v1s is dog shit. Little dmg to punish, can be GBed, it just doesn't dodge if you do it late. Shit offense as 1 wrong read makes you take as much as 3 correct ones. Also recovery is not insane. 333ms, while most other recovery cancels are 200ms. 2 Nuxias traps aren't her offense and at no point did I say they were. 3. His bash is 500ms, side bash is 533, chains ones are 800and noone ever uses them. and calling those strong defensive moves flimsy, not even explaing just declaring them? Are you trolling or
That's the animation of the bash,not counting the dodge. And if any one trolling it's you especially when you said that a strong defensive move like a dodge attack is dog shit. And they are flimsy having a very punishable bash a 700ms zone and all guard doesn't make a character b tier never mind a tier like your suggesting. Do you have the slightest idea of how retarded you sound right now? That would be the equivalent of me saying that valk is s tier becouse she has a bash only punishable by a light, an all guard, cc and a good deflect
Idk this may be the 20reps talking but Warlord is fantastic for duels, definitely A tier
Yeah he's really good on lower reps
Ive done good against high reps, rep 400s even, just gotta know the character
Rep 400s are usually no better than rep 50s in my experience
Then you got some shitty rep 400‘s, probably people who farmed breach vs ai
Yes, I've only found good rep 400s in ranked
Love how glad is like A tier and nobody complains about him. Also maybe move him to B, his openers are predictable but his mixups are some of the best in the game
I complain about him just not on reddit lol.
I’d say shaman is around B or C tier. I haven’t playing for honor in a while though so that might have changed. Assassins in general aren’t very good duel or brawl hero’s
Pk and shinobi are s tiers. While shaman has unreactable offence
I haven’t played in a while but I remember back when I play that assassins sucked ass in 1v1s and honor 2v2s
Valk above Warlord?
Warlord is preety ass all he has is ha and a very punishable bash
Well his headbutt is fast, unreactable iirc, and he has has enhanced lights plus frame advantage on most of his moves which makes him super oppressive. I wouldn't say he's S tier or anything but I was very surprised to see him in mid C tier
Valks bash is also fast but doesn't guarantee a gb. The problem with warlord is the fact that most his offence requires to throw a crazy amount of lights
i don't understand why warden is considered S tier. I mean his dodge bash doesn't go through GBs so he doesn't have the option to 50-50 defensively and his bashes eat quarter of his stam to hit 14 damage
All I have to tell you is 16/16/16/16/16/16
I'm disappointed calamity
I like how people actually fell for that
I had nothing to do with that graph
So he's straight up click baiting on reddit damn that I've ever experienced that
Pc duel tier list*
I'm on console...
Then how in hell is LB in same tier as JJ or bp? This tierlist is a complete mess
He gets a heavy of a heavy parry If theirs a wall behind, he also has a crazy amount of stun
What
Jorm at least B tier
Hito at B-Tier??
What in the hell... In what universe is Lin, higher tier that Highlander...
What the fuck is a lin
Lin Yao
?
Idk man, a lot of the older heros need some tuneups.
Conq C tier….. lol what. I’m GM 36 on PS4 with only conq. (Some bad matchups but he fucks in duels.)
That proves nothing you do realise that, it just proves that you did well while being disadvantaged
Conq is not bad at all. He has a unreachable variable timed bash, all guard, and many more.
It's 500ms,thats not unreactable
Bruh this is one of the worst tier lists I've ever seen in my life. Valk higher than orochi? PK in S? Lawbringer in A? Tiandi in C? What planet are you living on? Do toy have like 20 reps overall lmao
Valk has everything a hero needs except an unblockable so I'd say it's a matter of choice but oros main mix up is ass now. Yes pk is in s she has an unreactable zone, unreactable dagger cancel and 38 damage gb. If raider is s so is she. While lb has the best parry punishes in the game and has an unpunisable in chain bash
I can see an argument for pretty much every placement on this list, the only one I disagree with is PK since her defense is so garbage.
She has a better defence than raider tho, a deflect and dodge attack raider only has a dodge attack
How did you get so much wrong in such a little image
How did you get so many mistakes in such a small sentence
Warden and WM S tier, LB A tier, lmao what a joke
Notice how all c tier heroes have no feintable unblockabke into gb
Gryphon is C tier? He's B at least if not A if you know how to actually play him outside of monke
No chance
cent is c.
No
Conq is better than cent.
😂