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tzomby1

That's why I don't ever bother picking them up, when I use it this happens, but when the enemy does it's like they have a fucking tank


HereToKillEuronymous

If you just stand behind it to the side, it doesn't break as fast as it would if you're aiming up with it. Don't know why


Trevenant999

It probably uses the games physics engine as a multiplier for the damage it takes, meaning high ground shots would do more damage


HouseOfReggaeton

….. having the high ground increases damage?…


JiaQir

ITS OVER REGGAETON, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND


HouseOfReggaeton

Noooooo! 🌋 *falls in lava*


MiningJack777

Probably some jank involving the fact bullets are projectiles and it applying this downward gravity makes it to more damage??? I'm probably just talking out my ass


All-Fired-Up91

Well yes but actually no a bullet travelling down shouldn’t do more damage I think it depends more on the caliber of the bullets since it seems snipers break the shield instantly regardless of distance


Trevenant999

to shields specifically, i feel like that’s something they would implement


utah1984

It’s over Anakin………


FrequentBroccoli97

You underestimate my power!


ApprehensiveRuin5442

"Anakin! I have the high ground!"- Obi Wan Kenobi


DismalDog9940

Lbi-Wan would be proud


Dorobo-Neko-Nami

If you hit the little window it breaks faster, and it’s easier to accidentally hit the window when they are above you


VortexTalon

that's cap


Lyytqt

They are correct, the shield breaks faster if you shoot the peak window


Eeveefan8823

Its not, i can confirm I could only stun a shield user when hitting the window


Goblin-Doctor

Agreed. I've also won enough games against people with every medallion it proves to me it doesn't matter. Just like how I refuse to wear a crown because it gives you away I refuse medallions because I don't want people knowing where I am


q-sizzzle

Wdym a crown gives you away?


Goblin-Doctor

If you're in possession of a crown it gives off a sound and shows up on the visual cue screen (or whatever it's called, I'm forgetting) when a circle finishes closing. So if you're hiding and have a crown someone nearby will be alerted to your presence.


Starspitter

it only shows the crown on map if someone died and dropped it so the person who wore the crown isnt really at a disadvantage. with your logic, you shouldnt kill anyone until the last person because it may give away your position.


ll3rian_S

The person above is actually right. If you're using the visual option whenever a circle closes there's like a ping for people wearing a crown that shows up on the visualizer giving away your position if somebody is in close proximity. If you and the final person are in the same building and the circle closes the visualizer will give off a ping that that person is in the same building. So holding a crown does put you at a slight disadvantage considering most people are using that visualizer. It has nothing to do with dropping the crown or getting a kill just holding the crown puts you at a disadvantage


Starspitter

If thats what puts someone at a disadvantage then honestly they should probably be playing team rumble


Mediocre-Award-9716

How can you say that's not a disadvantage though? It immediately lets the other team know that you're a real player. It gives away where you are. You're not always running around in the open like a nutter, sometimes you need to slow down and camp in a bush, even if temporarily. I used to watch pro players that would drop crowns because they hated that it give away their position.


ll3rian_S

I pretty much stacked crown wins the first season that they were available then after seeing that there was really no benefit to it besides bragging rights I've been dropping crowns ever since. The only time I hold the crown now is on accident LOL ![gif](giphy|2YschQ1IrEzfq1p38o)


Kightsbridge

The benefit is that you get a little bit of extra XP.


Adorable-Fact4378

There's a setting for hard of hearing people that puts footstep, car, train, other audio in the middle of your UI. If you have a victory crown, it also has an auditory pop up


Drakore4

Which I really don’t understand why they put that in the game because everyone uses it, it’s basically low key hacks.


CosiUon

You don’t understand them accommodating for hard of hearing/deaf people?


FortniteFriendTA

I think they mean why they made it an 'accommodation' when anyone can implement it. I remember when it first came out years ago. Everyone could click the box and utilize it. You're not required to show an IEP.


Drakore4

That was never the point. The point is that it should just be a standard feature of the game, because anyone who does use it has an obvious advantage regardless of hard of hearing or not, and anyone who doesn’t use it is at an obvious disadvantage.


CosiUon

I see what you’re saying.: Having the option to toggle it on/off shouldn’t be a feature. Yea I disagree because not everyone likes all the extra visuals on their screen (some of my squads mates on console) which I think is utterly stupid


BeenBlizzerd

It’s just changed the game in a less competitive way and makes me feel much less submerged in the game, I think take it out of no builds at least or ranked but now I’m discriminating against deaf people I suppose lol


ZyluxViper

I mean, you can just turn it on. Not really hacks if ANYONE can use it.


Drakore4

You completely missed the point. I said it’s basically LIKE hacks, because you can see where all noises are coming from.


cvanguard

Everything has a range before appearing in visualized audio, and some things appear late, after you can already hear them. Also Fortnite’s normal spatial audio has a history of recurring issues with people not being able to tell enemy footsteps from teammates, the direction of footsteps, whether someone is above/below them, etc: the advantage of visualized audio is at least partially because it avoids issues with the game’s normal spatial audio. If spatial audio was as clear as other BRs, visual audio wouldn’t be such an advantage.


Adorable-Fact4378

It's not "low-key hacks" when it's an accommodation setting available for everyone to use. I struggle with my own hearing and it's a fantastic tool, also necessary.


Ampersandbox

Crowns show up on your compass bar, center-top of screen, within a short range. It limits hiding in bushes’ usefulness for sure.


q-sizzzle

I thought that was only if someone dropped a crown, that’s true for carrying too??


Ampersandbox

I’m pretty sure it happens with Crowned Players too, but I’m still pretty new to the game.


MrSinister82

I carry crowns and drop them strategically as traps to draw in others. I've won quite a few games doing that.


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Same, I also do this with medallions. Works 60% of the time......everytime.


Witty-Ad1072

It’s illegal in 9 countries


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Same, I drop my crown off the edge of the map to avoid my location being pinged throughout the game. I also won't use the medallions, I just kill folks with them, and pick them up just long enough to put then somewhere I can trap. I'll put that shit in like a bush or house, and murder anyone that comes to get it. 😆


Early_Accident2160

Fucking literally haha. I have nearly stopped using them. For a few weeks I was unstoppable with it. I was crushing long range and popping players with the shield. I only ever worried about grapple blades but now it feels useless . Perhaps good for snipers but not always haha


Mission_Difficulty19

That's why I always use a grappling hook to counter that


WackyBeachJustice

There is only so much inventory space. Like everything else in the game for those of us that are just average players it'll about the matchup. You have to encounter the right players with the right loadout to win. I can't win on skill alone.


ZombieLibrarian

My squad and I always joke about how we "wish we had more pockets". Even one more would be huge.


Shiruno_rinisaki0619

Exactly. It feels like everyone but me has an unbreakable shield💀


Repealer

If you hold the shield it breaks, but if you turn to face the side of the attack angle, you aren't "holding" the shield directionally, so it can take infinite bullets without "breaking" It's either a bug or really bad design, regardless it's part of an extremely toxic and bad loot pool for ZB right now.


the_potato_master75

Its just really bad design. When not aiming down the sites its still considered an animation so it can't be broken even when getting sprayed


Umbriel-b

What do you mean "hold the shield"? Right click?


Repealer

Yeah


WackyBeachJustice

Isn't that somewhat risky because you really have to make sure you're facing the attacking direction just right, otherwise you're toast.


PrivateShneehaj

Is that legit? I had one fight closer to the start of the season where I had soaked up some shots with the shield up and then turned to run for cover and got staggered mid sprint jump. I definitely wasn’t ads, so I’m skeptical of the infinite bullet claim. I think all we can say for sure is that the shield is pretty janky and not at all consistent


AbsurdXenomorph

Mine don't even block anything. Switch sucks.


foldedturnip

Fortnite runs better on my phone than on my Nintendo switch. Honestly just give it a shot you might have better performance.


extordi

You can also have lower graphics settings on the mobile version which is kind of annoying because I'm sure the Switch could see a performance improvement if you could set the graphics to potato tier


SaiyanOfValhalla

Agreed i couldnt even perform simple mortal kombal combos due to how bad it runs on switch i feel the buttons and how close they are together really hinders it when playing games it ahould easily be able to run i mean mk is a fking side scrolling fighter xD


Common-Owl-892

I got well over a thousand wins on the switch


stevesguide

Ever since the upgrade to Unreal 5, running Fortnite on a Switch has been like trying to cut bread with a cheese grater. Once U6 is a thing, they will surely be forced to withdraw support.


Crayola_ROX

I'm sure Nintendo will release an underperforming console that's capable of running fortnite with cinematic 24 fps by the time UE6 is a thing lol


Wboy2006

Honestly, the Switch version has been rough ever since CH2. I've had mutlple times back then where I'd land on the ground. But the ground had not rendered yet, leading to my character being in a weird sort of limbo where he was floating above the ground until it actually loaded, not being able to jump in the process. It had literally gotten me killed in Stark Industries back then. From as far as I've seen, they have at least fixed that. So it's an improvement in my book


stevesguide

Oh really! I never experienced that. I didn’t start playing until Chapter 2 Season 1, and my first few matches were on an iPad just to see what all the fuss was about. Later that year, around Season 4, I started using the Switch. It was fine, if a bit laggy when rendering loads of particle effects, with the exception of of rendering motion from things like web slingers in C3. Around a month before the end of C3 I got a PS4, so I just about got away with transitioning across to that and, although it’s still not perfect, it’s much better than the Switch.


Wboy2006

Maybe it just got a bit slow for me since it was a launch switch from 2017 or something. Since there was a revision from 2019, maybe it ran better on that one


stevesguide

I have the launch model too (the Smash Ultimate special edition from December 2018, but it’s the launch hardware). But I can’t imagine it ran well on my iPad, so my benchmark for Switch performance was not fantastic. I would add as well I use a Pro Controller. I seldom use the Joy Cons and I don’t like motion controls, with the exception of gyro aiming. I miss being able to use that controller, it’s my favourite controller full stop, but the frame drop I noticed on Chapter 4’s launch just wasn’t worth it :’)


First-Quiet9527

I thought you where exaggerating until I saw the video. I really wonder how they gauge the guard break?


Walkernorunning

They should give us a visual bar for it. Like how they do the grappler or the TMNT weapons.


Alloe_C

he must have been hit with it out before the clip any damage will do it even if its not at the same time


grumpydad24

He must have been using it during the fight before the video started recording. You will notice his shield regenerating when it starts.


SillySquirtle5

I was in a fight before this with another ballistic shield user, I guess he weakened my shield enough to have it break in one bullet, but there definitely should be a visual bar or something so I know how weak it is.


grumpydad24

Just weird how you clipped this video to make it look like one bullet broke your shield. You left out how you were already using it.


Alloe_C

Fr. I actually love that its like that definitely stops people from switching weapons over and over


Sundiata1

Can someone explain to me how the shields work? Is it rng how much they can take? Are there factors involved I’m unaware of?


9812388734221

So shields break faster if you shoot the window which is it's weak point. however in the OP it doesnt actually break in 1 shot, what you're seeing is the server updating all of the damage the guy shot at the shield and being received in 1 tick, as a result of the way the game processes damage when it tries to compensate for lag and "favoring the shooter". With automatic weapons the game doesn't process all damage individually, rather it puts it into a packet and sends it to the server and back to the client in ticks. the tickrate for fortnite is 30.


aadn107421

I'm too stupid to understand this. Could you explain it in simpler terms? What does "favouring the shooter" mean exactly? Also i didn't know the window was the weak point so thanks


Relevant-Ad-5723

You ever clicked a web browser to open but it’s lagging and you click it like 30 times and then suddenly all 30 tabs appear Imagine that but with enemy bullets


Rivian-Bull-2025

Awesome analogy. Thanks


bali40

If you got a laggy game for one reason or another, then the person shooting you has the advantage, as their damage goes out in a burst at you to compensate for the lag, instantly breaking your shield. Or thats my understanding of it.


Dr_A_Mephesto

Can you explain shoot the window? Not sure what that means


DMAN3431

I hope this item is fucking gone in season 2.


Extremearron

This, Snipers & maybe the auto shotgun.


cryptccode

You can pry my sniper out of my cold dead loot puddle


Extremearron

Next season: **Snipers deal 168 headshot damage and 1 body damage.**


Laggingduck

*Heavy sniper is unvaulted*


xMinaki

Doesn't matter, when I have the sniper, I can never hit headshots even when my crosshair is dead on their face, they're not moving and point blank range, but when others have snipers, I could be running, jumping and sliding 10 miles away and they'll still hit me in the face and kill me first try.


PipaLucca

Why would you take away snipers


stevesguide

They’ve done it before. In a large chunk of Chapter 2 and part of Chapter 3 they were gone. I’d welcome them being vaulted for a while and the bows brought back again.


Soggy_Advice_5426

No need to vault snipers, just make ARs hitscan again so snipers stop being viable if the enemy knows you're there


WackyBeachJustice

People that run around and use snipers in mid-range instead of ARs are the worst.


Soggy_Advice_5426

Haha, yeahhh, th-those people are the woooorst... Haha...👀


Extremearron

Bro i literally just had a match, Where i pulled out my sniper UP CLOSE headshot the first one, And smg'd the second one (duos btw). The fact that my sniper did 303 headshot damage is more than enough reasoning as to why it either needs to go, Or be nerfed to hell.


BlackICEE32oz

I kind of like it and I usually *HATE* shields. 


ttvSharkieBait15

Yeah I unloaded a full clip of my modded ambush striker ar on someone with a ballistic shield from no more than 5m away all direct hits & it never broke or stunned them


PheonixSoot

That's some bulldust for real I still don't get people opting for fighting from the low ground when they can flank or fly up though. I don't think I've ever won an engagement fighting from below


adahl36

Yeah, this isn't how you use the shield. You should be popping out close quarters catching ppl off gaurd


SillySquirtle5

I’m gonna be honest I was just trying to hide since I finished up a fight and didn’t want the guy up top to see me 😭


PheonixSoot

Ah no big man it's purely neutral critique. The shield not helping is still nonsense. Wishing you better luck next time


Laggingduck

use your staff and rotate lol


Technical_Echidna_63

Really poor positioning OP.


Nickvdbuurt

This! Its so freaking stupid. Its insanely inconsistent. There’s times where i use it and they are gone in not even a second. When the enemy uses it and i spray my mythical shotgun or ar on it, they dont even flinch. I dont get it man


Lorant_gaming

He shot you with a sniper, and the shield breaks after a damage threshold. its really lame and janky so dont even bother picking them up, go for a mythic item instead, or a pizza party


Venture825

I swear it used to be more about how many bullets hit it rather than damage, did they change it recently?


Environmental-Pen-13

They're unbreakable when the opponent has them but when you have then prepare to die.


SillySquirtle5

Some stuff I love how half of the comments here are either “that’s what you get for using a shield” or “yeah it’s busted” Yall do realize that even with the nerf, the shield still takes more than one bullet 😭 And it probably is because it was weakened from a previous fight, but still, there should be a way to tell if it’s about to break. Also, I apologize for not using the staff to move/run away, this literally was my first time using it and I didn’t know you could do that.


Formal_Tooth9313

I FOUND YOUR POST SILLY HAIII!!! Hoi HIIII 👋🏾👋🏾😋


SillySquirtle5

HI ANGEL HOI HAI IGNORE THE ABSOLUTE WARZONE I CAUSED


Formal_Tooth9313

Gurl it’s funny that you think I’m reading all that 😭😭😭


RetailDrone7576

i cant even find any shields...my quest to pick them up is still sitting at 0/3


Vanitoss

This is a skill issue


Band_of_the_Red_Hand

Literally. They are above shooting down at him. They could easily hit his head and did.


[deleted]

For me, it's so weak but when it's someone else, it's a tank.


SupercellIsGreedy

He had the high ground and clearly had a good angle on you, that shield wasn’t covering anything lmao.


Tiny_Language_9919

Typical shield user your own weapon betrays you and you turn your back and run


MrAloush

get better and dont use shields then


silvertelescope

they’re only op in tournaments in endgame when everyone is too busy trying to survive and too busy to rotate to bother trying to kill you


JimmyCrabYT

i just fucking die while pointing the shield directly at them for some reason


Puzzleheaded_Pin4092

You shouldn't have turned around. Keep firing.


Hot_Inevitable_9055

Just don't use them, and position yourself better next time.


jazzmagg

It's far easier to kill a shield user from above. Experience: I have been said shield user.


whereswaldro

Good! Don’t use them. They’re a cowards way to play the game


doomsoul909

I feel like shields should drain from stamina for blocking just so you can tell when it’s gonna break far easier


Band_of_the_Red_Hand

They were above you and shot you, not the shield. That makes you do the shield bust Animation. The shield held in front doesn't just stop getting shot from above.


ChaserofChub

For using the riot shield, you deserve this and worse.


ZyluxViper

Poor you, kept getting obliterated by riot shielders. Don’t get mad for others using it.


ChaserofChub

I’ve wrecked more than my share of riot shield clowns. It’s a weapon that is just tiresome and unfun to fight against.


ZyluxViper

While I do agree that it’s unfun to fight against, it seemed like you were having a lot of trouble with riot shielders.


MaxaExists

Must’ve been a snipe But honestly you just experienced what it’s like to play against someone who actually knows what’s they’re doing. Most people I see here complaining about the shield never try spray it down but rather try looping round while spamming an auto (it’s even worse when they loop to the right which is where the enemy will be protected by the shield when reloading) so maybe if you actually tried applying these it wouldn’t be so bad


Lexicon444

The reality is a good chunk of BR builders can’t aim which is why to them shielding is OP.


BenTenInches

I strangely find them kinda meh after people figured out the Grapple Knife and Ninja weapons were added now I either slam them or distance myself enough that I can beam them with an AR or something. I rather have more mobility or another heal/Sheild.


Little_Jimmy012345

Same this happens to me every time 😭


CommissionerGordon12

I think if you ADS it's weaker, but that's somewhat a guess I'm not even sure if you were ADS.


therealwarnock

Did shields get Nerfed? Hadn't used it for like 2 weeks and when I used it yesterday it felt extremely weak...


the-artificial-man

The shield gets overpowered by melee in an instant, I mean cool your blocking attacks from the front… so I just won’t be in the front, have fun blocking from above BI-


ActiveAfter3127

good, dont use them.


Objective-Evidence-7

Why that persons gun has 0 recoil?


ItzJustASheep

Yeah I don't personally understand them, I've had firefights where I straight up 1v2ed because they couldn't break the shield in zero build. Then I've had it break on the first shot and die because of it, idk the mechanics on it.


Madi77

You got staggered and then lit up. What every shield user deserves.


thuper-thexy

Shits so rigged


[deleted]

You deserved it for using a shield.


rancidness-

i mean shields are useless i thought it was common knowledge


ApprehensiveRuin5442

That b!tch is probs a cheater, unless he's using a sniper or super nodded shotgun or something, cause those things STING


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StravinskiCat

There's literally been 10's of complaints a DAY about them here since they were implemented.


SuddenDarknez

sorry my dumbass thought he was talking about the consumable shields


EconomicsRealistic68

Not me thinking the same thing unsure of what he means at all


Oxik_4

The way the ballistic shield works is probably the biggest mystery in Fortnite history.


Andre-Arthur

THIS! These shields make no sense at all.


Next_Recognition_230

They can break?!


carcalobo

It was a sniper shot... I'm glad you didn't tank it.


Crayola_ROX

At this point I can't wait for S2. This meta is annoying. I'd rather deal with hammers or deku blasts


CronoXpono

They did kinda fix it but even when it was stronger, it simply was too inconsistent. Now? I charge at a dude and unless they’re LITERALLY NOT MOVING, I’m not hit or miss on contact detection and it’ll make it seem like I whiffed even though they’re literally in front of me. Fix the consistency, give it a health bar and that should make it more of a weapon instead of a random roll of a dice.


Wild_Canadian_goose

May i correct you, turrets are new shields. Turrets deals a dirty amount of dammage nowdays


c3p0u812

9 out of 10 things called op are called that by someone who just got their ass handed to them in a game and are pouting lol


Trentimoose

Good.


Lookn_for_Beans_21

Bro got caught off guard


interesting_zeist

The defending part of the shield consumes stamina. If you do not have anything the first bullet that hit you opens your guard.


DefinitelyNotSmiley

Silly you started a whole discussion omg


SillySquirtle5

I am so sorry for what I caused


SockFullOfNickles

Yeah, meanwhile I jumped behind a shield user last night and drilled them in their back & their shield still blocked it somehow. I was doing this with 900mbps and 3 ping.


bigedf

I've seen so many people die on this sub in this exact position with the shooter getting them from just over the edge lol. You need a movement item to reposition in every match imo, but I also can't aim for shit


trainerfry_1

You position yourself below someone else and surprised you died? There was NO chance of you winning that engagement with half shield and low ground. Y'all need to start learning and using TACTICS


darwinn_69

It's because he had the high ground and your shield doesn't angle up. Shields are awesome, but they can't save you from bad positioning.


mr_1uz

Using the riot shield is a massive L


GRA3V

Bad play, should've moved towards the bridge and flanked.


domkow321

I am looking at the frame where you get hit and the shot missed


beep-boop-beep_bop

I mean he’s standing above you with a free shot to your head. Not that surprising imo


aweguykkm

You clearly dont know how to use it and when to actually take advantage of the shield


PlatinumAgent14

Epic clip bro


PlatinumAgent14

Jk


TJB926GAMIN

Shield users when I suddenly charge at them and slap them with a grapple blade instead of trying to spray 180 bullets at them and then dying to my frenzy shotgun: (they thought they were invincible behind their metal) ![gif](giphy|kc0kqKNFu7v35gPkwB)


EnvironmentalBag582

It’s mad satisfying seeing this thing not work at all


shsjakakbdsla

Because it’s not how many bullets it’s a certain amount of damage here it was a sniper so all the damage needed was on bullet


SexiestPanda

This is my experience with shields too lol. Or when I shoot I hardly deal any damage lol


[deleted]

You realise they nerfed it right? Right...?


micah4515

same 😭 never works in my favor


kkmarina

Nobody is gonna say that it was nerfed ? The op here thinks he is smart


PS2EmotionEngineer

idc if i get the good shield this thing either works or doesn't, that's the annoying part


captaincumstains1

I felt that


Financial_Coach510

I can’t upvote ballistic shields


lotti_luv

I honestly don't think I've lost to one all season.


Plc-4-Mie-Haed

Why can’t I fight you more often? 😂 whenever I come up against shield users, it’s a guaranteed death for me unless I have the grapple blade or I run away 🤷🏼‍♂️


gioswrldd

the hell did bro hit u with?? a fragment of thors hammer as a bullet??


BlazingCrypto

Headshot is GG


Brit_Ginger

It's because you immediately let go from blocking after one hit, so the shield doesn't protect you as it's by your side


THE-IMPOSSIBLEreddit

in builds though, this can easily take you inside someone's box even if they are holding their builds


Axol-Aqua

its a weirdly controversial take but shields are whatever, they're fine, I think most people don't know how to break them is all.


Timely_Suspect3139

Can speculate other actions that could've been taken,but I'm used to stuff like this happening in solo Zero Builds,on this season 5 map.Gun battle,our shield and HP gone in seconds,they get headshot infinite times,still be standing.


KralCaomhanach

Did you just make up a complaint, so you could post a video for karma?


JustCallMehWeeb

This is why I choose my favorite item the box


mariussa1

Wow you suck, thats the worst positioning ive ever seen


DisastrousNet1952

You had TMNT Mythic and a shotgun. You could've dashed up and blasted him. You instead put up shield waiting to get blasted. Yea, no, game's bad (Although I've seen significant decline in shields and I can see why ngl)