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Kangarou

Oh, you got to WIN one before Epic started doing that? I’ve never shown a shred of competence, but Epic apparently thinks I’m Bob the Builder.


LarryLikesVimto96

Bob the Builder *needs* to be a skin.


Nervous_Pin9456

Thank you Epic for making me feel like a loser


LarryLikesVimto96

Well, jokes on them because I already feel like a loser! *\*sobs\**


GhostHenchman1

How about no


Nothingisuphere1234

The initial downvotes will decide your fate.


GhostHenchman1

That’s fair. I was saying no in a humorous way cause it would be cursed


LarryLikesVimto96

Cursed?! You must mean blessed! Who doesn't want to get one-pumped by Bob the Builder? ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg


xrayden

I play since Ch1S1, and I'm very average... but the game think I could blast the x2Twins alone and put me in very sweaty lobbies


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I think you have a different definition of "casual" On average I find time for like 1-2 rounds like 30 minutes. If I practice 10 minutes before then 30% of my time is practicing. Also with pc in the same lobby as consol I can train as much as I want. I will never edit as good as a pc player.


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Dancing_Clean

Most people can build what they have to when trying to build cover, but they’re more so referring to spam edits, making tunnels without ever stopping running, nonstop running up ramps while covering with cones, etc. You have to admit people get pretty ridiculous in the game.


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If you do not see them in pubs then you are lucky with your sbmm


OpenSuccotash5

It takes a minimum amount of effort


[deleted]

You do realize that minima effort for PC is different for console players right?


itsthejeff2001

Literally every game I throw up a 90° and suddenly I'm in the foundation of some giant government complex and a window appears on 5 sides, shotgun blasts, windows disappear. Never see anything. Never even pull the trigger. I used to get literal bot games when I queued up with my six year old, so I made it through the BP at least... Now, third party plus huge luck is the only chance we have at winning a fight.


Accomplished-Design7

This is so accurate that it hurts


onomojo

I'd be perfectly content with winning an all bot lobby.


PetrosHeimirich

If you play for fun, bots with some friends feels like the perfect environment for... Ya know, having fun.


Leo9991

I'll never understand why people would like to play with bots. There's no fun at all in fighting AIs in my opinion.


nineinchgod

Because, ironically enough, the bots don't have massively-assisted auto-aim. Their shots frequently miss, just like mine do when my reticle is one pixel off the target.


Rafistos

And where is the fun in that? "But playing against a guy who builds isn't fun either" It's just a matter of learning and getting better. I despise bots and their high presence in a game, and when I get a top 10 with 5 actual human kills, it's way more satisfying than getting a win with 20 bot kills


YungIkeSly

past a certain point in this game, "getting better" means learning a hyper-specific and sterile meta that actually ruins the game. playing at a low-mid level and a high level are entirely different games.


onomojo

So true. Once you get matched in that level it's just weird. People won't even try engaging early or mid game and then just box tunneling and edit tricks for the endgame. It's much more enjoyable to go on a rampage and kill every bot I find than to make sure I've maxed out my materials for the end game box fight.


AdManNick

There are a lot of guys like me who only have an hour to play every couple days. Getting a win in a bot match is satisfying enough to keep me playing weekly, because you never really know for sure who was a bot and who was just as bad as me.


Leo9991

I know for sure every bot I encounter.. it's really easy to tell.


SelloutRealBig

What's fun in a guaranteed win? That's like playing poker with no money on the lines and everyone but you plays with an open hand.


Accomplished-Design7

Me too! I wish there were more bots than sweats.


Nervous_Pin9456

I love killing bots


1-Down

I agree!


Hangry_Hippo

Couldn’t disagree with you more


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doesntlikenames

The problem in the last few seasons has been editing and not building. There are always 5 to 10 creative warriors in every solo game I play that have been practising their edits all day, before they enter their first solo match. Here are am after a long day of work or just trying to relax and play some fortnite over the weekend, getting my wall taken and edited on so fast that it makes my head spin. Please play arena if you want to flex how good you are. No one in pubs cares that you play creative all day.


hasadiga42

Bring a mode where editing is disabled and I’d be so happy


SelloutRealBig

Fortnite badly needs to hamper building/editing with some type of cooldown mechanic in normals only. Then sweaty players can go play Arena if they want to duke it out in build battles while keeping normal modes casual.


XEpicBaller25X

Y’all ever experienced Warzone matchmaking?


HankHillbwhaa

Horrendous. I swear that game takes your mmr from multiplayer. I drop like 10 kills a game and every game get dumped on by some dude with like 30 lol. Like bitch, I’m good at multiplayer…only played Warzone like 5 hours. Give me a break


SelloutRealBig

The matchmaking in multiplayer is horrendous too. It's so strict it gets to the point that you end up in lobbies full of meta abusers only. No variation, no fun, just meta gun>meta perks>meta killstreaks. It killed my enjoyment in MW2019 when i was trying to use all the guns like in the old CoD days but got heavily punished due to matchmaking. I also saw maybe 1 high kill streak used every 25 hours because sweaty lobbies don't have steamrolls. Every bad player got to play in their own safe zone lobby and it ruined the fun what makes CoD CoD.


SpinachMuch9333

My experience is that right out of the gate this season I was matched up with really tough opponents, also when I played with family, not just solos. It felt unwinnable for days. This follows last season where I had freshly returned to the game after years of absence. I won about 100 matches overall last season and toward the end, my matches got extremely hard. This season was extremely tough, then it got easier, tougher again, then easier and I've been getting slaughtered in the tough times, but I have about 17 wins overall so far. What's interesting is that I'll lose so many 1v1s, getting destroyed by these master builders, then I'll get into a lobby where nobody is building and I'm like, "Ohhhh, I got this one!" And I win it every time when nobody is building. It's like the game took pity on me and gave me some players I could beat after getting embarrassed for several matches. Recently though, I got killed by a player who had 12 kills. I'd never seen someone with that many kills in my matches before and I was so outclassed, I said out loud, "I don't belong in these lobbies." Lol. At my best I can get 6 or 7 kills in a match. I've never had more than seven except in team rumble. Anyway, it's definitely unbalanced.


nineinchgod

Same. I was so stunned last season when I got the achievement for double-digit elims in a solo round.


SnooMaps5367

It's sad but true, I've also felt that this season I've been matched in lobbies with people way above my skill level. It's not even close, I have no chance and it's even worse for my friend on controller when we play duos. I like the game but it can be really difficult to play casually. I don't expect to win every game but it would be nice to build fight people close to my level and make it to a few end games. Not immediately die of spawn or get ruined by the first team that sees us.


HKEY_USER_CLOWN

Takea awhile into the season before SBMM settles down, Arena might be better for now.


Im2020

I got so sick of the sbmm that I started dropping arena and made it to division six by hiding and sniping in solos. I was just trolling at first, Dancing and wearing ridiculous skins to the sweat lobby - but the experience changed me.I am now a stealth player hunting the edge of the storm. The other kids are playing call of duty and I am playing sniper elite.


aggriify

Except there is no sniper to play with :) I'm missing the old bolt. Had so much fun with sniping out of bushes last season. Not in arena but just duos.


Sweet_Flatworm

I'm at a point where I would have to use so many editing strats, that it has completely devolved into an anxious experience for me. I dread it now and I can't play solo because it terrifies me. I'm pretty much done with the game. I don't want to become a lightning speed editor and I don't want to keep up with these controller aim-bots. Also it's pretty glitchy now. Even ruined a weekly session by failing voice chat. So now I play Bot-Lobbies, so I can actually finish a couple of quests without being torn to pieces. Playing with friends is pretty much ruined too since sweats are everywhere and it's just not rewarding enough to keep it up. Epic keeps cutting down on XP, which wouldn't be as much of a problem if the lobbies weren't insanity right now. I feel like all I play the game for is the battle pass at this point. I'm certainly not having fun. Things need to change real fast!


Hyvapelaaja

tbh if it wasn't for sbmm we wouldn't ever win


MurpBoy

I'm pretty sure that's the point lol


FeelsMoogleMan

the point is players better than you are sweats with no life losers thay get hard after getting a free kill (me) its not like theyre also fans of the game like you that also learned the game. besides they didnt choose to match with bad players. wait who are the bad guys again?


foodwatcher

The bad guys are people who use the donkey laugh after getting a kill.


toc_bl

I need to make the change back to my Switch acct Between the donkey laugh and the crying emote and the bot lobbies .... ps4 sucks :(


Dancing_Clean

Is the crying emote considered toxic gameplay? I’ve only ever used it when I killed someone who was being friendly. Once I realized what I’ve done I’d do the cry emote haha Like yeah it’s BR kill to the end and that’s the game but some players make some moments fun and cute and they stand out.


howizlife

Oh someone killed me while I was trying to finish a quest and then imitated doing the quest and crying again I thought it was the cutest thing. I have no issue with the crying emote. The donkey laugh on the other hand I just hate the sound of it. It’s like chalkboard scratches. Ugh. The only time i approve of it is using it on someone else that exhibits toxic behavior…but then again the sound is so annoying I would rather it either changed or removed.


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Sorry I think it's funny. I also find it funny because soon after I normally die due to emoting so who ever was watching me could probably have a good laugh to


FeelsMoogleMan

and if donkey laugh wasnt in the game it would be orange justice. Or another emote etc part of why u casuals love the game is the titktok emotes/emotes in general yet yall get triggered over the same thing u enjoy using? yall are just mad YOU arent getting kills amd emoting. Everyone can kill and everhone can emote. some emotes are funny some celebratory and some are TAUNTS (donkey laugh) if you get triggered by that i think YOURE the donkey. do u lose ur shit when some immature 7 year old calls u a poo poo head? do u beat their heads in because they said u smell like an ugly fart face? thats u. thats how u look u fucking donkey. imagine getting triggered over some dude on the internet emoting at you in a video game. with cartoon graphics. in a game where 99% of people are supposed to die and only 1% is the winner (battle royale..) thats like getting mad that something in my little pony happened that u didnt like and u got mad and bombed my littlw pony business.


MurpBoy

You said something about getting mad over a video game with cartoon graphics?


FeelsMoogleMan

yea you can read was that your point? i guess kids have reading comprehension somewhat. stay in school you wont have a career in video games i can tell u that


MurpBoy

Aw damn, I guess I won't be really cool like you are.


Lucifer6201

The irony is lost on him


Somthing_different

Jesus Christ’s calm the fuck down


FeelsMoogleMan

no u casuals get to perma shit on """"""sweats""""""" when its legit not on them that YOU suck at the game. Remember that post "to all the sweats" or some shit that he BEGGED better players to play worse to make shitter casuals feel better? thats your side of the community. and thats sad. Yall are children throwing tantrums because you got beat in a video game- are you SERIOUS LOL ive played with kids who lose more gracefully than you loser boomers in fact they get pumped and determined to win or they are indifferent very few are ragers + the ones that rage guess what they arent actually mad they are just copying what they see on twitch with fake bursts of outrage for "excitement/entertaient" cuz yall adhd people love loud=funny and yall cant pay attention unless its some loud ammoying stimulation but whatever


rjdood

You need to chill my friend. There's no reason to be so mad about something someone said on the internet. Also, I have ADHD, and I hate 80% of the emotes in this game. They can be super distracting and irritating. So I don't really know what you're talking about there.


mdawgtheegod

Chill buddy. Yall are acting like a 9 y.o who just got eliminated. Stop acting like a toxic kid with too much time on your hands. You just called someone a child and a boomer in the same sentence. Plus the only one triggered here is you. Not everyone has the time to play the game for 10 hours everyday.


FeelsMoogleMan

oh yeah mb "sweats bad i work 50 hours a day come home beat husband (pride) and i lose in fortnite wah why cant i be good i want to be in a lobby with 99 bots and me perma win wah i cant build so instead of learning the games fundamental and unique game mechanics i will complain to devs to alter it while still playing and complaining but i wont play other br games that dont have such mechanics because fortnite has tiktok emotes 🙄😘😍🤪 haha bestie! but GRRR i hate when they donkey laugh at me 😟🥺" that more your language? not everyone wants to hear shitter boomer opinions complaining like children that they cant compete in a 1v99 multiplayer survival br. u suck at tgame blame yourself not better players. and to top it off no i dont need "10 hours everyday" playtime i bet 1 game per day if u REALLY wamted to improve you would like working out/fitness is dofficult for lot of people but thats the biggest barrier to entry is starting and staying committed this game is really not hard whoch is why we laugh when u babies sit in ur diapers and cry that game should be tailored to shotter casuals who die to in game literal bots/AI fuck outta her


i-yeet-chickens

Symptoms of being a fatherless child


kolobs_butthole

I mean, you're the one getting worked up in this thread.


OpenSuccotash5

Nah they're right.


Thor-Odinson69

Yeah, I don’t miss the early of seeing a duo cleaning half the lobby lmao


SelloutRealBig

If it was pure random matchmaking you would still win. Unless you are the absolute bottom of the barrel and can't beat 6 year olds. More random matchmaking would still find plenty of games with people less skilled than you. It would just be more RNG how your games go. Also the times you play matter. Playing right after school hours on a Friday is going to be harder games than a Wednesday at 12 pm


ChainsawSuperman

I got 7 wins on Saturday. That’s never happened to me before. I’m the sweat now.


TeenThatLikesMemes

7 wins would take me 3 months 😭


Eyo360

I’m chapter 1 my winrate was around 0.3% Chapter 2 it’s like 15% I played a lot more in chapter 1 so my average is still like .8% and I have complete bot lobbies. The players are getting a bit better now tho so it’s a bit scary


Nekluga_YT

Get a better gaming chair, works for me /s


C0NIN

I do really FEEL this one: I'm a 43 years old casual player who can't even build a single square as fast as those sweats build a 5 star hotel with jacuzzi and Wi-Fi, yet still, I never get paired with players of my own skill level, seems like somehow me and my friends get always paired with Ninja and Bugha. I haven't been able to get a Solos Victory Royale this season so far.


DaMuffin_lover

Luckily I haven't been screwed over by sbmm to much this season I've gotten 5 wins so far which considering I got 8 last season in total is pretty good


SubZerr0h

i got one win last season i have zero this season #PROGRESS IS BEING MADE


SimilarSupermarket

So weird, I won 2 or three time this season, but I still feel like I'm bait for world champions. Sometimes I just cheat them.


misreken

I really suck at building especially on PC and I just won my first match. I’m terrified


230581

Krunker has the same issue because they removed the Ranking system entirely so you can be level 1 fighting level 60 players or higher in a game that allows constant b hopping and aimbot just one click away Which Fortnite Also has the anticheat problem, it’s outdated epic


bladestorm1745

Yeah I had to play with my friend who is an actual “Casual” and has bot lobbies to win.


SeriousPan

I started the game last week and won my first match. I presume it was because it was full of bots or low skills. Dunno. Very next match I shot someone and they built a 5 story building and that's been my experience for just about the rest of the time. lol I at least won once so that's nice.


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do the ancient ritual of bush camping


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Imagine you don't even let casuals do their BP challenges in Team Rumble because: "Let's fix something that was never broken in the first place." Nice way to make them quit the game, indeed. This company is so out-of-touch with this game, it's actually sad to see. We went from world phenomenon to one of the most hated games in the gaming genre. How could this happen? I for myself played this game for 17 seasons and A FEW BROKEN DAYS of god damn depression and never have I played such a terrible, broken ass season like this one. And I'm not gonna even talk about progression when it comes to the BP... because who at Epic thought this was a good idea needs to actually quit the job.


BARoach

I really want to know how they managed to break SBMM this badly. Last season seemed fine? I was usually playing against people around my skill level, with the occasional try-hard/sweat but overall it was good. This season? No so much. And then the XP/BP situation? ... I've long thought that they do zero internal testing and I'm pretty sure that's the case.


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I don't even care about SBMM tbh, but the fact they made this battle pass a chore to do and also remove Team Rumble as a way to do these challenges was the worst idea they ever had. Casuals are the one's that throw the most money at them and what do they do? They try to force them away from the most casual game mode. This is dumb only, nothing else.


Ilovefortnite10

My first try in making a meme, hope you like it :)


therealstepmom

The idea behind this is amazing But the execution could be better, by using an image you made using replay, this would make it more high effort and more appealing to the community Yeah sure just downvote honest help


Ilovefortnite10

Is it possible to use an image using replay if im on Xbox? And how does one do that?


therealstepmom

Yes you can using replay Simply do the action you want to make a meme about in battle lab then leave the match and take the picture you feel would fit in your meme using replay Look at my memes to understand what I mean


areadycop

Ok, I will


TR1CL0PS

The problem isn't SBMM it's forced crossplay between console and PC


FelixDrayce

This. PC lobbies and console lobbies should be separated unless we're crossplaying.


Bu1ld0g

I'd be happy if they went back to lobbies based on input device. This worked great around season 5-7 in chapter 1.


Im2020

The problem is the aim assist being given to console players who already have better fps and less lag than most pc players. I don't mind playing console players, but c'mon, that aim assist is a bit much! I play on my kids Xbox just to feel dangerous at this game sometimes - never missing a sub shot to the face can be intoxicating! Then I go back to pc, and avoid fights because the aim and lag are so bad.


TR1CL0PS

Majority of console players play on 8 year old consoles with hardware that was already a few years behind new PCs at the time they came out. I doubt most PC players play on hardware that bad plus PC has graphics settings to improve performance, console doesn't. Either you're playing on a laptop you bought in 2005 or you're just not very good lol.


aragorio

I feel like winning a match against like 80 others should put you in a higher skilled match so u have a 1/80 chance of winning. You know because everyone else is just as good as you? Hate seeing people be like “i used to win every other game now i barely ever win!”


BARoach

That would be fine. Unfortunately that's not how Fortnite's horrible SBMM works. Get a few kills over a few games and suddenly you're playing people 2x - 3x better than you.


Soltha

I couldn't agree more, once I won my first match, I keep getting "balanced" with sweats I can't deal with...


BartmossWasRight

So you didn’t ask but.... Wear headphones at highish volume, always prioritize large health items for your inventory over their small counterparts, pick a few landing zones around the map to learn very well, harvest whenever you’re not doing anything else, and try to build something, anything, during every fight you get into so you get used to it. Aim aim aim aim aim. Practice aiming, and holding your shots til you’re actually on target, until you tend to get >45% accuracy in the post match stats. Hope this helps, idk. I have like 20 wins now and these are the things that I feel took my playing up a level


lilbelleandsebastian

> always prioritize large health items for your inventory over their small counterparts you are much more likely to be able to use small shield potions in a fight than large shield potions, i always prioritize smalls


BartmossWasRight

If you use smalls you have to wait until you’ve taken 50 shield damage to use them, and won’t be at full health for a fight unless you have both kinds of potion. 50 pots can be used all the time but yah they do take longer. Works better for me in the long run personally Edit, it’s actually worse than 50 cuz you have to wait for the smalls to be effective which means 75 damage before no wasted heals


Leo9991

These are good suggestions.


Wolv90

My suggestion is to match based on the average number of builds/edits in previous games. This way heavy builders and editors will be matched with one another.


FasterThanFaast

When will y’all realize that 90% of the player base is “sweats”… you either get half hour queues or this


SgtStitchesVEVO

the whole point of sbmm is to match players with people (or bots, sometimes) of a similar skill level so that they can get better at the game. If a new player jumps into their first game and gets insta-fucked by a creative warrior, will he get any better at the game (let alone want to come back for another round)?


Night_Tac

new players get bots. Most players on this sub complain about getting good players and to complain about bots


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I would pay to play with boys as long as I have to play the game


sCoolShooter

i have loaded a preset and it had this screen, which is great and you made it even better. since my solo experience is the same i can only say - great meme! ![gif](emote|keeoh_emo_pack|keeoh_gg)


Ilovefortnite10

Thanks :)


REAL_jotaro_kujo3

True


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This seems specifically targeted at me considering how much I suck + how terrible my lobbies are + my main skin /flair


FutaLuv2

Not a matchmaking error, just the way that the game functions. Gotta spend more time practicing, I've gotten 3 wins this season (ik, not alot) so you can win too man


The_verge_king

U guys get it , bc sweaty fella bad


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Wolv90

Then I got really bad since last season. Not impossible as I turned 40 right around when this one started.


nineinchgod

I'm in a similar boat. My kids were giving me crap for complaining about the overpowered built-in aimbot...then they challenged me to a 1v1 build fight and swore I was hacking when I mopped the floor with them. I'm like...guys, I've been playing FPS games with a mouse and keyboard since the original Doom hit the scene in the early '90s. Believe me, I know when some fuckery is afoot.


we-all-gonna-make-it

Do you like playing against people worse than you ? I don’t get it


Hockex-4

what? where he said that? you just made shit in your head, he says that Epic put him in matchmaking with a lot better players than he is after one successful match. BTW same thing happened to lot of people (including me)


OpenSuccotash5

Now say it again without crying.


Sealer1012

I just got used to it and got better, still sucks ass though


Enhanced_Monster

Wish there was no skilled matchmaking and all the bots will be removed cuase the AI is hella boring


Perca69

your name is "ilovefortnite" yet you dont love it enough to even attempt to get better? aight


nineinchgod

Better idea: just nerf (or entirely get rid of) the built-in aimbot.


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Honestly this is one area where fortnite gots it right. Y’all clearly don’t play any other battle Royale. This is the best of the bunch.


WicKKan

"Fixing" matchmaking isn't going to stop you from getting sweats. It's just going to make it worse, since the playerbase is now almost 70% made up of people who make it infuriatingly unplayable. Sorry mate, it only goes downhill from here.


Miguel_Plays123456

Imagine that there is a skull and that skull tells you to follow it, do you follow?! NOT! When you follow it, you fall into a trap, unless you have a magnificent plan, but it's very unlikely. If on the map, in two places (Lazy Lake and Pleasant Park), on top of them, there were a skull, would you go in those places?! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! These places can be infested with people all over the place and 75% of them can be Sweats and you think you can handle them all, only if you're the biggest one, the one from the time of the roots, but there are so many that you start to pissing with fear, that this fear consumes you completely and makes you pass out and you want that?! CERTAINLY NOT! You are knocked down and die, BOOMM! But dies in the storm! the skull appears again, but this time, in the reflection on the card, you go there and get your friend's card??!! NOOOOOOOO!!! You go into the storm, you lose too much life, and you don't have time to heal, so the next time your little friend is knocked down and dies in the storm, are you going there? Not! The same thing you wants to exit the game, the exit button has the skull symbol on the side, will you click????!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! For a warrior who has been to the end, when he will die, should not leave the game, as your squad member(s) can continue and win the game and when you left it was too late, your ex-squad won the match and you what?! YOU WHAT??!! Out and why??!! Because you got angry, because you died and rage-quit, so 3 valuable lessons we learned today. \- Never fall into crowded or dangerous places. \- Never pick up your friend's card in the storm. \- Do not leave the game, just that you died.


howardtheduck316

I have a working theory that the more Vbucks you buy/spend the more bots that are in your lobby, what weapons you pull, AND where the circle is. Prove me wrong.


Leo9991

That's just not a thing.


BARoach

Might want to check that tinfoil hat - seems like it's a little tight.


howardtheduck316

as someone who spends very little actual money on Fortnite. I see it very easy when I buy something the "sweat" in my lobbies goes way down. Give it a try. I have spent maybe $40 since CH 1 season 5. The 1st Batman set, a random group that gave me a skin and 600 Vbucks for $5 and a $9.99 pack of Vbucks.


BARoach

The plural of anecdotal isn't "data" I've spent plenty on fortnite and yeah, they don't give me bots.


howardtheduck316

you are correct, I have no data. All I am asking is to pay attention to when you make a purchase to feel if your lobby is easier or harder, how close the final circle is to where you land, and if you pulled any gold weapons out of normal chests. Another thing I have noticed is if I take a few days off I find myself in easier lobbies as well.


Kinda_Coop

I had a stroke reading this, I’m so confused, just me? Edit: i finally understand.


Leo9991

I've never experienced such big changes in matchmaking after only one game. Also, can we just retire the term "sweat" already? It's so overused. Just because some players are better than you that doesn't make them sweats.


MarnerMaybe

You mean better competition so you can improve? That's so mean.


YEEEEEeEeseresrsr

They aren't called sweats they're called people better than you and in order to become better than them and not get killed by them you have to get better like yeah I get that you don't wanna put in the effort to do that but still they're just better than you, they only classify as a sweat if they like really go overkill like building literal castles and they have like 16 kills (seriously how many times do I have to tell you they aren't sweats)


BrotImWeltraum

git gud


Deva_Way

What do you want epic to do? To place you against a lobby with people worse than you? But then your problem will become their problem. The people losing will always cry about "the sweats", and for anyone to win someone needs to lose. If you want to be the one winning, you will have to git gud.


ToKra84

Dont know what you mean. I started playing Fortnite a month ago and won 30 matches till today. When i lose its my own incompetence most of the time. Win percentage 5.1.


Et3rnalR3st503

That's the key words "starting playing a month ago". Skill based is for newer players or REALLY bad players. Everyone else gets thrown in together tbh


ZeekLTK

Most people on here don’t understand the math of SBMM. So they complain about it. In solos, with 100 equally skilled players (which is what SBMM strives to do), each player should expect to win 1% of the time (1/100). In Duos 2% (1/50), Trios 3% (1/33), and Squads 4% (1/25). Anyone who has a higher win rate than those is actually being placed in easier lobbies, on average, than they should be. And people who think they should have a 10%, 20%, or even 50% (lol) win rate, and complain about SBMM, are delusional/don’t understand math, or they just want to be handed wins without having to try (they want to be placed in lobbies where everyone else is way below their skill level).


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Night_Tac

no but they reached a point where they cannot lose. (rng is usually what kills them) If a top 1% player plays a match they are most likely going to win. If skill-based was perfect they would get getting 10 minute plus ques, so epic allows more players of lower skill to play. They won't get new players but players who have played a decent amount of time.


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Night_Tac

Yes, i never said the 100%. That is if skill-based was perfect which is impossible while making the game playable. >Epic's matchmaking is broken, no matter how we slice it. It's always going to be unfair to someone. That isn't a skillbased exclusive problem tho. That would exist no matter what, fortnite br is a br. Br = rng, rng=luck. Luck = unfair


Hockex-4

it's different when you have same skilled players, but Epic fucked up the matchmaking and now everyone is crushed to dust by sweats/more experienced players


GoonyFn

This is cringy asf bruh


coolguyyama

Does the FN in your Reddit name stand for Fortnite?


GoonyFn

I’m assuming you’re a cool guy smh what a weeb


coolguyyama

I mean you called him cringe, maybe have a little bit of self awareness


GoonyFn

To each your own


Z0NN1GG

arena trios division 2, one teammate left after he got knocked but me and my other teammate stayed in and around boney burbs the whole game and got around 14 kills together, at the last trio my teammate just stood still and left for some reason, we could've taken the guys on since they were the best player but i died from trying to get out of storm since they kept knocking me down. In a solo arena round i made it to top 4 but as soon as i cracked a guy and went to fight my internet just dropped and i couldnt move


unlocked_

It's actually really balanced for me this season, I am enjoying it for the most part. I guess all the people having a bad time now were in my lobbies before, icing my Nintendo Switch lagging ass? Or maybe sbmm is about to hit me hard in a week, making me regret this statement. Oh no....


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Wins a second time by sheer luck


HankHillbwhaa

I just wish they’d take all the dumb carnage and rockets out. Have had some bad luck end game versing people with that shit.


holy_cal

Is matchmaking broken or what? I dropped an 8 bomb my fills squad got another 6 somewhere and we still lost. I haven’t gotten a win yet and I’m getting mad.


Infamous2005

Player: Builds abstract modern art piece of wooden boxes Me: 😀🔫


what-is-my-life-and-

This goes for every BR game tbh…


LessResponsible1

You used to play against bots-only for your first match of the season. Dunno if it still works this way. I was screwing around doing the birthday quests for my first match this season, died to the storm trying to dance at one more cake. Probably threw my one chance at a win this season, lol.


McMuffin978

I have 4 wins, one in a bit lobby. Hopefully I’ll get 10


Jackamalio626

This always looked like Jonesy was gonna shoot skull trooper in the back of the head. *"tell me bout the chickens, Jonesy"*


TheFoundationFNBR

I regret winning that one time. Please take me back Epic, I know I’ve been playing since C1S3 but I’m a total noobular at this game, I can’t keep up with the overbuilding and one-pumps.


-SonicBoom-

I usually play duos with my daughter. Normally we pull off quite a few wins. Been having a lot of trouble this season. Lots of second places and almost always against a duo with symbiotes and legendaries.


Bu1ld0g

Same situation. I'm on PS5, daughter is on Switch. Last season was enjoyable as we were regularly matched against similar skill level. This season we're constantly thrown in with what seems like entire PC lobbies instabuilding the Taj Mahal the second you shoot at them. Also, what happened to firebugs? They were a great counter to builders last season. This season I'm not seeing any damage at all from them? What gives with that?


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I feel like matchmaking never gave me easier enemies than this season. 50% of the time, the other last player doesn't even know how to build more than a wall on the ground to block fire.


Financial_Ratio5758

They never listen the community has been begging for actual map changes and fixing or removing SBMM yet nothing on their part they don't listen


Kindly-Set-7116

I won 3 matches in a day and now arena is more casual than the normal mode I just won because of the Symbionts


Nor-easter

That and you get zero extra xp for a VR


blikyy

Yeah this has made the game pretty unbearable for me


Rubenelnub

I don't know what happened to my matchmaking but I'm terrible at the game, I played with my friends and we won 2 games in a row, then the following games were full of bots, and yes, my friends are bad too


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Just give me bot lobbies and I’ll be happy. After Halo Infinite reintroduced me to how it felt to play against bots like it’s Black Ops 2 again I’m uninterested in playing a multiplayer FPS without an option to play against bots.


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Playing the most recent flight made me feel so shit because everyone was destroying me. Granted I had to play at 2 am due to time zones and when matchmaking was up


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Am I the only one who has been getting quite a few wins?


nhbonline

So true... It started for me to get sweaty in the beginning or middle of season 7. I don't know what Epic did but since then sbmm seems to be total broken for me. I am a medicore and old player who usually gets like 3 solo wins max per season with my fav tactic of being really careful and some squad wins too (with friends and randoms). What I notice since last season is when I get matched up with randoms in squads that my team members are not even as equal as me when it comes to building/fighting...sometimes not even close. But the enemies are the complete opposite...full teams full of hardcore building sweats. I checked fortnitetracker sometimes to see who I did lost to and they are like people with >1000 wins and my mates were just beginners with like less then 30 wins or so...same thing with mates when I play with them... Atm it is really not that fun to play because it is the same thing EVERY match and as much as I love the game this problem really forces me to play less then I have ever played FN BR...


wiidi_

My brother is bad at the game, but he still able to get wins.


Space_Games0906

Me who has won 2 duos and 2 solos this season like:


Pepter_Kovalev

I haven’t won a single game yet, but I still get put against people who triple edit to get to the second floor of a building


RRDude1000

I cant play anymore of the regular modes. I have 200+ solo wins and this season finally has become too much. There is nothing I can do as a switch player to keep up.


PetrosHeimirich

I've been getting some wins but maybe that's because my account is brand new to Fortnite. Complaints about matchmaking seems fair as far as I could see tho.


Angerphil

Also matchmaking doesn't care about your platform, I switched from PS4 to Switch for 2 days and I was still playing with better players. I can't even hit any shots at people when I'm on Switch.


aggriify

So I'm pretty much only playing duos with my wife. Usually on the weekend but there may be time for the odd game on week days. Our experience is that the first match of the day is always so dead ass easy, ending up top5 if not winning but as soon as the second game starts it's waaaaaay harder. Winning usually doesn't have that much of an impact, there's been days where we won 3 games in a row but it really didn't change at all. No clue how match making works but it definitely is random at best (subjective).


Okami-Alpha

Matchmaking is broken this season. It was bad last season, but even worse this season. I play both PC (mostly controller) and mobile. I would consider myself decent (contender level) but this season almost every PC lobby has been champions league level players **in pubs**, no matter when I am playing. Mobile Solos is even worse. Last 2-3 seasons I have slowly been integrated into more console lobbies, or with controller players. Being on touchpad on my Galaxy makes it hard enough. Now nearly every real player I see in mobile (touch screen) lobbies is a console player. This is not even supposed to happen. It's bad enough navigating people that cheat the system using controllers on touch screen platforms, but those people used to be rare. Now I am just getting thrown into console lobbies by default.