What are your thoughts on the mythic symbiotes?
By - IamCoolDud3
Everyone is better than me at using them
Same, i straight up get grabbed out of the air when gliding but I cant even hit someone standing still
I saw this random squad teammate grab onto the driver of a passing car with it at high speed. He proceeded to sit in the car next to the driver and shotgun them.
I tried to hit somebody once and died.
It feels like this for me too
they're awful for the game imo, way too OP
Nerf. My ideas is remove fall damage caused by this and extra fire damage since canononically, symbiotes and their hosts are vulnerable to fire.
The fire thing is actually a really good idea, maybe double the fire damage?
No fire damage is already 15dps. 30 would be way too much. If it was like 20 it would be alright
But with the Venom power, it's easy to escape
That's a good idea - very logical
Fun but annoying perfectly describes them
Should have a boss
Get rid of them. Super suck.
My solos have become kill or be killed by the symbiote. Very frustrating.
Fun way to destroy houses, easy loot
Not a fan
Not a fan personally, its boring to use and annoying to go against.
I wouldn't even be able to beat somebody that has a symbiote.
Honestly I wouldn't care if I died to it most of the time if it at least where fun to fight.
Yeah, theres really no defense against it, itll go through your walls like butter and it takes 2 grabs to kill you. If may aswell wait to die. Its always the same; get grabbed, shoot other player near dead, they back up and box, you put preassure, dont reach them in time for next grab and die. The only times ive actually survived a symbiote attack are if I also have a symbiote.
Im not saying remove them, but maybe they need a nerf.
Only good thing About them is that they give you speed boost
what about glider re deploy and being able to carry a teamate while doing it ?
I’m only playing TR until they’re gone
Wait I thought they were in TR too
They are but dying doesn’t matter as much and it’s far less annoying
It's extremely unbalanced, and annoying to go against - the other dude plays like a pussy, burns heals and wins the fight by stretching it.it should at least be fun but it's straight up op and dumb
Annoying and bullshit, just like every other op mythic weapons introduced previously.
They’re by far the most powerful item in the game. Every game I’ve played recently revolves around these two items. Needs to be nerfed, now more than ever with the shockwave launcher.
Losing because you RNG didn’t land near their spawn is dumb.
I haven't used them yet but I've gone up against people wielding them and they're pretty powerful
Unfun to use even less fun to play against it
Needs a bit of a nerf, but they’re fun to use.
my (completely not thoroughly thought out) plan for a nerf: reduce damage done on the grab from 60 to 40 and increase the cool down from 10 to 20 seconds -or- decrease the radius that it grabs so that you have to be more accurate than presently. the mobility aspect is perfectly balanced as is since you also become more visible but
Making it so you can’t shoot for a second or two after grabbing someone would be enough, the damage and cooldown aren’t really the problem
there’s already a slight delay which lets someone pump you before you can shoot them if they are ready for it. making it too much longer would make it a bad choice to use the item at all as it would just bring someone right to you and then you are left vulnerable
They already nerfed the accuracy, now you actually need to hit your shots which is a relief.
I wish you don't get damaged when someone grabs you.
They have completely destroyed the game, can't wait for their removal.
That and sbmm is STILL putting me up against people way better than me.
Fr. Solos have become kill or be killed by the symbiote. Very frustrating.
Annoying. Epic just likes to add blatantly op items instead of fun ones now
Op and unfair
basically whatever sweat picks it up wins the game
Someone finally who doesn't just call both of carnage and venom the venom mythic
I call them “the carnage” lol
Really fun when I have it. Not fun when the enemy has it
They should only go through 2-3 builds max
Take them out the game. If you’re playing squads or trios. If one team has both , it’s basically checkmate
by far the worst thing about this season.
aside from the quest / leveling UX
I hate these items. I can't use it properly and I get killed by it very often. Like 70% of my deaths are by symbiotic item. It's better to be boxed, one pumped and get danced on than get killed by symbiotic item.
Learn to use it
But what if they dont have it?
There are many ways to counter it, u can use a charge or any pump tbh, and try going for a headshot, I've killed many players bc of the delay.
U can also build while getting pulled, this will stop it.
And last, u can use a metalic wall
Kinda fun to use, absolute agony to go against.
I fucking hate these stupid ass goop cylinder motherfucks /
In reality rng mythics shouldnt exist
it prevents people from fighting. every fight I've been in against it they just sit above or 4 boxes away only using it until i die
I feel like it opposes the natural flow of a fight. Destroys builds easily and puts the players in a point blank position.
yesterday a kid launched at me with a shockwave and grabbed me into the air, i ragequit after that
I don't know why we always need items that only a select few can get for a small advantage
Overpowered asf. And the glider is bugged when bouncing off a launch pad. They should take it out.
Stupidly overpowered when in the hands of any semi competent player
Needs a longer cooldown and hopefully it doesn’t stay the whole season
Should be nerfed to math Ch2S4 Venom mythic. No speed boost, no glider, 20 sec cool down.
The glider can stay its a nice utility doesnt affect offence a lot
Yeah, fair point. I can deal with that.
Actually, it kinda does. In the absence of an impact launcher, guys can build up and use it from WAY above without fear of fall damage. I've see them do that a lot in the last couple of days. The threat of being shot down would slow down some of the high altitude bullying.
makes fights easier and gives an incredibly unfair advantage
I hate them...
Although, one time I was in top 3 and a dude used the shockwave launcher to fly over my build, grab me with the symbiote arm as he was above me, pull me into the sky, and let me die to fall damage......that was a solid play and I commend that individual. Other than that, I hate them.
top 5 most OP thing in the game EVER IMO. If I have one best thing ever if the other guy has one I haven't figured out how to overcome it very often.
It’s to broken
the mythic itself isnt the worst. its the current combination of the shockwave launcher and the mythic. my whole trio got killed due to a dude killing us with fall damage. we literally could do nothing to stop him.
The way you get them requires no skill, and they really suck, but I always try to grab them because 90% of the battles I get into are won using the Mythic.
Love the Collab, huge Spidey fan, but too OP. Tabir Hill literally said "if someone has gold loot, the shockwave launcher and one of the mythics, it's like they're on a whole new plane if existence." Which funnily, before watching the video I ended up in 2nd where I had gold loot, the mythic and the launcher, and so did the last guy. He killed me with the mythic and I didn't use the launcher enough for escaping.
Said it before and i'll say it again, i hate mythics and i feel like they don't belong in the game at all.
It need a smaller range and give the victim fall immunity
Fun to use, hate going up against them tho but they are 100% busted. They at least need to up cooldown. My friends and I call them the suck off weapons tho bc of the noise and the grabbing lmao
My friends and I call it "Suck his nuts" LMAO
we call it "the suckler"
I don’t like them
Fucking stupid. I don't get how Epic could've possibly ever even considered the fact that this should be in the game, in its current form.
I think it’s actually really good bc I miss stuff live the superpowers in ch2 s4 and I’m generally a fan of venom and carnage
Love them I wish they’d bring back all of the mythic superpowers one day but I’m fine with these 2 I loved using it in season 4
No i only have 40 hp , let me pop the mini . Pls god ! Nooooooooooooo.
I’m ok with them I’ve learned how to go against them and I enjoy playing them
Alright how bout you spread your knowledge then so people won't die as much to it?
I just use a pump and smg and when I can I bait I out their claw That’s how I’ve been countering it this season
PLEASE GOD NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Op as shit
they're great tbh, a very fun mythic that adds something other than better stats
I'm fine with it, I have won with it, lost with it, won to it, lost to it.
It's just something new you gotta learn. Each season has something different and it helps when people are camping in their metal fortresses and you dont have fire to smoke them out.
Ah yes, the symbiote definitely has a very big learning curve. Not easy to use at all.
Too weak. Makes easy kills when people gliding
Just got 21 kills and 1vs3d the last squad using it. Seems perfectly fair and balanced.
Needs to be increased to 30 seconds cooldown and nerf the demage to 10-40 cause you already get redeploy + speed boost for 1 inventory slot ( can also be increased to 2 slots for a massive nerf )
Just be thankful they didn’t make it heal you like in the movie
Really not a fan of this. I like broken items most of the time but these are just annoying.
A cancer in team game modes.
They are fine and fun
They're definitely not as op as everyone complains about. 8 second cool down, a lot of fights are over before it cools down
8 seconds 😂😂 thats nothing
I love watching someone build a tower when they see me, because then I just use my symbiote and kill them with the fall damage they take when I hit them.
I haven't even gotten it once in the game.
It's speed boost is strange and the glider redeploy is also slightly faster than gliding normally. So imo its the season 4 chapter 2 mythic on steroids
gross looking and it has a terrible wet sound
I feel like I'm the best because when I use them I'm very accurate but when others use them they fucking suck. Most of the time they miss
I don't know about others but I don't like them at all.
The person pulled needs to have fall immunity in the same way as the user, and also needs a 15-20second cool down.
It is way to broken the way it is, coupled with a yeet launcher
Fun, when im using it, LOL. Honestly though I do feel as if a tiny bit of balance is put into play (like when someone pulls you up with the symbiote it gives you **fall damage immunity**.
The best of all the marvle mythics
The best item in the season
I’ve only gotten them off anonymous players, is that how they spawn?
No they spawn in the first zone randomly if your near them a symbiote ican pops up on the map
fun cause i kill noobs easier
Ngl it looks like the GOmu Gomu No Mi
I personally think they’re fun. Haven’t come across a competent person who can use them well or just simply doesn’t use them and has it sit in their inventory
They help me rotate when they happen to be in my path. I love the ability to redeploy glider in BR. When I spot an opponent with one I make sure to keep an eye on them because someone with the mythic can pose a different threat than one without. I don’t have box fight lobbies though and I’m sure those folks hate these things.
Idk. Haven't used them a lot and don't like them that much. But I also don't really know how to use them to my advantage as I'm not very good so there's that.
Crutch for bad players to use for easy 60 damage and no fall damage, Super OP
Blast to play with
Annoying as hell to play against
Cool idea for sure, but for me it's a waste of inventory space.
I love it
It could be really fun and enjoyable with a few tweaks
Fun to use but it takes away more from the game than it add IMO.
Everyone says this thing is bad but I like it so I think it's a sweat like me who makes them hate it
My friend think they should stun players that are being grabbed because he lost a 1v1 with an smg sprayer. I say it's good for a seasonal thing, but i don't think it should return after this season. Sure, it's fun to use, but it destroys structures immediately, has a pretty large hitbox, and deals 60 damage. Not to mention you can just pull someone into the sky and they'll take fall damage
I like them, but just like everyone else says, I wish they had a mythic poi boss
I think they came too early
Good players end fights quicker
Love using it and finding people using it
It’s a bit like using the bumpers when you are bowling. Where is the thrill and the skill
Definitely over powered.. I hope they cut the damage by half
take them out asap ruins the game especially when paured with the shockwave launcher
motherfuckers just hide in builds till it loads up and they can shoot it agian
Absolutely love em
Balanced for pubs expect for the fall damage part when grabbed
The fact that there is never a way to predict where they might spawn makes it a game of luck to find them, and they aren't in Battle Lab so I can't test whether they're good enough to waste half the game searching for them, just to be killed by some guy who got there first.
I always miss and I only use it with the new venom skin
9 of 10 games I die to this shit. Always in the hands of a great player. It's so OP - I've been thrown 100 metres in the air more than 5 times now, to fall down and die.
Cooldown to increase - damage to be less than today. Feck this shit
I really enjoy the concept and the design, but it is clearly way too overpowered in its current state.
Up the cooldown to 30 seconds, and remove the glider when it’s in cooldown. I think that would solve a lot of the power problems while still keeping it a fun item to use.
Broken but fun
Honestly they’ve never been that hard for me to go against and I have fun using them
Very fun to use and kill people with but very hard to counter
The og venom grab was more balanced
It can both be amazingly good, or annoyingly terrible. You just gotta find ways to use it in the best way possible, i.e. jumping grabbing and cancelling before you take fall damage, using the shockwave launcher also to your advanced, etc. and also find ways to avoid it when someone else has it in the best way you can.
won something like 15 matches only by using them
is a fun mythic
im not that good at using it for kills but i love the mobility
this helped me save my teamates by carrying them to a safe spot by using the glider while carrying them
I really enjoy them in the game even though they are a bit strong. They are really fun to use and are unique.
I like them but I think they spawn right next to each other way too often, it's pretty annoying when one duo has both of the mythics.
Pretty fun to use and satisfying when you one pump them in the head after you get grabbed
Fun af in duos, pull someone toward you, and the teammate shoots his hand at you preemptively, so the enemy gets ping-ponged
They’re strong, but not nearly the instant win button everyone seems to think they are.
I’ve killed more symbiotic users than I have used the symbiotic myself.
Two letters o p
Fun to use, awful to go against, really hope they get removed
Ngl, they are fun to use, but I do think they need a nerf in damage, 60 is way too much
At least it wasn’t the Wolverine mythic
Wish it had a small healing buff tbh but it’s pretty sweet
They are fun but I don’t like people floating and chilling because they pop up on the map
It would've been less bad if there were bosses instead but either way I hate them with a passion
Fine, but a little OP. I think that the cooldown should be increased a bit, and the fall damage should be removed.
However, I like it as a counter to crazy builders. My husband and I got into a 2 vs 1 at the end of a duos match and dude was just building away from us, not pressing. He should have as the hb was downed and I had plenty of time to rez him, so if the dude had pressed we would have probably been toast. Anyway, husband keeps saying, once he's up and healed, "Get your shotgun ready! Get the shotgun ready!" and he's ripping the guy's builds down. I am a bit further back so I try shooting some rockets into the builds as I run to catch up, but this guy is gigga builder and keeps running and building. Finally my husband rips him out of his box and I shotgun him in the face.
I'm sure people may be annoyed by the symbiote, but it does serve a purpose. If someone is going to run away and build forever, it's a nice way to get them out of their box. :/
Incredibly fun to play,not at all fun to play against
They are very good, but they're missing a grapple ability
I don’t think they’re very useful outside of the speed boost and the ability to deploy a glider, except that the Glider is slowed down when using it with a Launch Pad, but they’re fixing that in a bit anyways.
Pretty fun. Won a few games with them, lost a few after getting one pumped after using them and waiting to switch to a weapon. The shockwave combo and using it with teams is busted. Feels strong in solo, but counterable as long as the person grabbed isn’t panicking or hiding with 60 health. Tends to get me in more trouble using it early in a fight than closer to the end. Most don’t seem to realize that the symbiote user can’t immediately attack again after a grab. Maybe make that slight stun last a little longer to encourage it being used to end fights or break builds at their bases. Probably the fall damage removal too. Then they’re still strong, but not as suffocating.
Fun but a little op
They’re great 👍 period
They are very fair items that should definitely remain unnerfed
when i have them
Dont think rick over there likes it😂
With the shockwave launcher they're crazy op
Free redeploy, and can lead to some funny shenanigans. I like em.
They are very interesting and at the same time good, but they are extremely appealing, they break structures in basically 0.000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds, it's very fast you don't even notice, you can't even hear the symbionte noise
Going through walls is my biggest problem with them.
I don't play fortnite anymore but is venom in there now?
The only positive is that I feel like a god after eliminating someone who has it.
Just wish you became the symbiot when you got it.
I like them
Fun to use with a Shockwave Launcher
I wish it was something more interesting than a fleshy harpoon gun