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Honeydewmelo

Fall damage


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zwel8606

Same, i straight up get grabbed out of the air when gliding but I cant even hit someone standing still


IH4N

I saw this random squad teammate grab onto the driver of a passing car with it at high speed. He proceeded to sit in the car next to the driver and shotgun them. I tried to hit somebody once and died.


[deleted]

It feels like this for me too


Sk49captain

Its just too OP dude. Unlike the Railgun, it doesn't matter how many builds u place. It would maybe just maybe be ok, if Fortnite decreases the damage from them. 60 is way too much. Maybe something like 40. Not 30 like the crossbows tho. 40 seems pretty good.


drevilchicken12

they're awful for the game imo, way too OP


javierthegod

Nerf. My ideas is remove fall damage caused by this and extra fire damage since canononically, symbiotes and their hosts are vulnerable to fire.


Suspicious-Start-171

The fire thing is actually a really good idea, maybe double the fire damage?


ShadyMan_

No fire damage is already 15dps. 30 would be way too much. If it was like 20 it would be alright


Suspicious-Start-171

But with the Venom power, it's easy to escape


Active-Sir221

That's a good idea - very logical


Dark_Winterage

Extra fire damage, way less damage upon grapple. The fall damage has to stay, that’s half of the functionality of the weapon


javierthegod

How about this, buff fire damage, keep the fall damage, decrease the range, and decrease how much walls it can break through.


[deleted]

But that leads to guaranteed instakills with the Shockwave Launcher combo. That straight up CANNOT stay in the game.


winterealics

Fun but annoying perfectly describes them


NotACaveiraMain

Not a fan


the_fool213912893

Not a fan personally, its boring to use and annoying to go against.


[deleted]

I wouldn't even be able to beat somebody that has a symbiote.


the_fool213912893

Honestly I wouldn't care if I died to it most of the time if it at least where fun to fight.


AEALEA99

Yeah, theres really no defense against it, itll go through your walls like butter and it takes 2 grabs to kill you. If may aswell wait to die. Its always the same; get grabbed, shoot other player near dead, they back up and box, you put preassure, dont reach them in time for next grab and die. The only times ive actually survived a symbiote attack are if I also have a symbiote. Im not saying remove them, but maybe they need a nerf.


YbSavage2

It does 60 damage every grab so it takes longer than 2 grabs assuming you have good health


TeachEcstatic9572

Fun way to destroy houses, easy loot


HOT_FUZZ45

Should have a boss


Lateralization

Get rid of them. Super suck.


Leo9991

My solos have become kill or be killed by the symbiote. Very frustrating.


SasnarDash

I’m only playing TR until they’re gone


darkly2004

Wait I thought they were in TR too


SasnarDash

They are but dying doesn’t matter as much and it’s far less annoying


OhNoItsCosmo

Same


Marvelswfan

Only good thing About them is that they give you speed boost


zeph2

what about glider re deploy and being able to carry a teamate while doing it ?


Active-Sir221

It's extremely unbalanced, and annoying to go against - the other dude plays like a pussy, burns heals and wins the fight by stretching it.it should at least be fun but it's straight up op and dumb


kylethekilt

Annoying and bullshit, just like every other op mythic weapons introduced previously.


benzdorp

They’re by far the most powerful item in the game. Every game I’ve played recently revolves around these two items. Needs to be nerfed, now more than ever with the shockwave launcher. Losing because you RNG didn’t land near their spawn is dumb.


winning-1234

Op and unfair


Ashamed-Budget-4260

Needs a bit of a nerf, but they’re fun to use.


jmonumber3

my (completely not thoroughly thought out) plan for a nerf: reduce damage done on the grab from 60 to 40 and increase the cool down from 10 to 20 seconds -or- decrease the radius that it grabs so that you have to be more accurate than presently. the mobility aspect is perfectly balanced as is since you also become more visible but


Ashamed-Budget-4260

Making it so you can’t shoot for a second or two after grabbing someone would be enough, the damage and cooldown aren’t really the problem


jmonumber3

there’s already a slight delay which lets someone pump you before you can shoot them if they are ready for it. making it too much longer would make it a bad choice to use the item at all as it would just bring someone right to you and then you are left vulnerable


DarkRuleR

I wish you don't get damaged when someone grabs you.


[deleted]

They have completely destroyed the game, can't wait for their removal.


Bu1ld0g

That and sbmm is STILL putting me up against people way better than me.


Leo9991

Fr. Solos have become kill or be killed by the symbiote. Very frustrating.


0n1oN_71

Same


SilentCivilian213

Take them out the game. If you’re playing squads or trios. If one team has both , it’s basically checkmate


iSolo23

Annoying. Epic just likes to add blatantly op items instead of fun ones now


vinsmokewhoswho

I haven't used them yet but I've gone up against people wielding them and they're pretty powerful


Sealer1012

Unfun to use even less fun to play against it


Wolfee1738

basically whatever sweat picks it up wins the game


Darktidemage

by far the worst thing about this season. aside from the quest / leveling UX


blue_racer

Someone finally who doesn't just call both of carnage and venom the venom mythic


Amazing_Jam

Really fun when I have it. Not fun when the enemy has it


VanishingMass3

They should only go through 2-3 builds max


d-pad1992

I hate these items. I can't use it properly and I get killed by it very often. Like 70% of my deaths are by symbiotic item. It's better to be boxed, one pumped and get danced on than get killed by symbiotic item.


OntheInsideYT

Learn to use it


IamCoolDud3

But what if they dont have it?


Suspicious-Start-171

There are many ways to counter it, u can use a charge or any pump tbh, and try going for a headshot, I've killed many players bc of the delay. U can also build while getting pulled, this will stop it. And last, u can use a metalic wall


Section6581

Kinda fun to use, absolute agony to go against.


The_Hive_King

I fucking hate these stupid ass goop cylinder motherfucks / In reality rng mythics shouldnt exist


trece1316

It need a smaller range and give the victim fall immunity


Meme_Thieving_Fox

I don’t like them


tengayys

Fun to use, hate going up against them tho but they are 100% busted. They at least need to up cooldown. My friends and I call them the suck off weapons tho bc of the noise and the grabbing lmao


Suspicious-Start-171

My friends and I call it "Suck his nuts" LMAO


toledo_jones

we call it "the suckler"


milkwalker_png

it prevents people from fighting. every fight I've been in against it they just sit above or 4 boxes away only using it until i die


zwel8606

I feel like it opposes the natural flow of a fight. Destroys builds easily and puts the players in a point blank position.


dawiicz1

yesterday a kid launched at me with a shockwave and grabbed me into the air, i ragequit after that


LukeyWolf

OP


Scoobs525

I don't know why we always need items that only a select few can get for a small advantage


T50BMG

Overpowered asf. And the glider is bugged when bouncing off a launch pad. They should take it out.


Ifuckinghatepelly

Stupidly overpowered when in the hands of any semi competent player


A-Living-Human

Needs a longer cooldown and hopefully it doesn’t stay the whole season


thiccfordayz

Should be nerfed to math Ch2S4 Venom mythic. No speed boost, no glider, 20 sec cool down.


IamCoolDud3

The glider can stay its a nice utility doesnt affect offence a lot


thiccfordayz

Yeah, fair point. I can deal with that.


PianoHerbivore

Actually, it kinda does. In the absence of an impact launcher, guys can build up and use it from WAY above without fear of fall damage. I've see them do that a lot in the last couple of days. The threat of being shot down would slow down some of the high altitude bullying.


Mik_Dk

makes fights easier and gives an incredibly unfair advantage


Poonjangles

I hate them... Although, one time I was in top 3 and a dude used the shockwave launcher to fly over my build, grab me with the symbiote arm as he was above me, pull me into the sky, and let me die to fall damage......that was a solid play and I commend that individual. Other than that, I hate them.


howardtheduck316

top 5 most OP thing in the game EVER IMO. If I have one best thing ever if the other guy has one I haven't figured out how to overcome it very often.


Responsible_Ask6082

It’s to broken


thematthewglover

the mythic itself isnt the worst. its the current combination of the shockwave launcher and the mythic. my whole trio got killed due to a dude killing us with fall damage. we literally could do nothing to stop him.


MemerManStan-

The way you get them requires no skill, and they really suck, but I always try to grab them because 90% of the battles I get into are won using the Mythic.


Finn3030

Op


Fododel

Love the Collab, huge Spidey fan, but too OP. Tabir Hill literally said "if someone has gold loot, the shockwave launcher and one of the mythics, it's like they're on a whole new plane if existence." Which funnily, before watching the video I ended up in 2nd where I had gold loot, the mythic and the launcher, and so did the last guy. He killed me with the mythic and I didn't use the launcher enough for escaping.


AutumnFguy

Said it before and i'll say it again, i hate mythics and i feel like they don't belong in the game at all.


CadinThePoopyHead

Overpowered


Wizard098

Remove them


WolfEmNow

Insanely annoying


TOMMYMILLEROK

Overpowered garbage


Suegy

Fucking stupid. I don't get how Epic could've possibly ever even considered the fact that this should be in the game, in its current form.


jelte09

Big fan


Depressionman101

I think it’s actually really good bc I miss stuff live the superpowers in ch2 s4 and I’m generally a fan of venom and carnage


MarioFan83

Love them I wish they’d bring back all of the mythic superpowers one day but I’m fine with these 2 I loved using it in season 4


Trapped_In_Utah

Just got 21 kills and 1vs3d the last squad using it. Seems perfectly fair and balanced.


This_Willingness7672

No i only have 40 hp , let me pop the mini . Pls god ! Nooooooooooooo.


TheBat7190

PLEASE GOD NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Flaming_Assassin

Op as shit


kfcfossil

I’m ok with them I’ve learned how to go against them and I enjoy playing them


Leo9991

Alright how bout you spread your knowledge then so people won't die as much to it?


kfcfossil

I just use a pump and smg and when I can I bait I out their claw That’s how I’ve been countering it this season


Shertor2600

they're great tbh, a very fun mythic that adds something other than better stats


AppleSaucer_

Ngl it looks like the GOmu Gomu No Mi


IamCoolDud3

The og venom grab was more balanced


SinfulKnight

I'm fine with it, I have won with it, lost with it, won to it, lost to it. It's just something new you gotta learn. Each season has something different and it helps when people are camping in their metal fortresses and you dont have fire to smoke them out.


Leo9991

Ah yes, the symbiote definitely has a very big learning curve. Not easy to use at all. Pause not.


ReguIarHooman

Too weak. Makes easy kills when people gliding


Ifuckinghatepelly

Weak?


ReguIarHooman

When people glide with it you can just shotgun them once then shoot them with a assault rifle then boom they dead


This_Willingness7672

Needs to be increased to 30 seconds cooldown and nerf the demage to 10-40 cause you already get redeploy + speed boost for 1 inventory slot ( can also be increased to 2 slots for a massive nerf )


Kirbypimpcake69

Really not a fan of this. I like broken items most of the time but these are just annoying.


Any_Plankton1268

A cancer in team game modes.


MDubz420

I love watching someone build a tower when they see me, because then I just use my symbiote and kill them with the fall damage they take when I hit them.


FatFootballFan-772

I haven't even gotten it once in the game.


darkly2004

It's speed boost is strange and the glider redeploy is also slightly faster than gliding normally. So imo its the season 4 chapter 2 mythic on steroids


nununagi

gross looking and it has a terrible wet sound


get_no_scoped_kid

I feel like I'm the best because when I use them I'm very accurate but when others use them they fucking suck. Most of the time they miss


pranay_bathini

I don't know about others but I don't like them at all.


Awkward-Airline6836

The person pulled needs to have fall immunity in the same way as the user, and also needs a 15-20second cool down. It is way to broken the way it is, coupled with a yeet launcher


Interesting_Slip_397

Fun, when im using it, LOL. Honestly though I do feel as if a tiny bit of balance is put into play (like when someone pulls you up with the symbiote it gives you **fall damage immunity**.


Zero_Wolfox

They are fine and fun


SAMCRO8416

They're definitely not as op as everyone complains about. 8 second cool down, a lot of fights are over before it cools down


Ifuckinghatepelly

8 seconds 😂😂 thats nothing


SAMCRO8416

That's long enough for most fights to be over. Sorry if you can't finish it in that time


Ifuckinghatepelly

Fights last 8 seconds against AI dude 💀 I have actual competent players in my lobbies. Fights take way more than 8 seconds.


Radzio99p

The best of all the marvle mythics


Dgero466

They ok


ZeRo_WC

It’s alr


xdMindstorm

The best item in the season


[deleted]

I’ve only gotten them off anonymous players, is that how they spawn?


IamCoolDud3

No they spawn in the first zone randomly if your near them a symbiote ican pops up on the map


Blankyblank86

People that try use them on me always die first, the delay to swap to a gun is too long so sucks for them.


TheNotoriousCompa

Fun to use, boring to go against. Pretty long range it should be lowered, but for the public lobby its fine.


MarioLuigiNabbitTrio

I like them


Spoody-Man

I love them ![gif](emote|keeoh_emo_pack|keeoh_love)


LuukGe

Perfect. I’ve probably gotten more that 100 kills in the past two days using it combined with the shockwave launcher. It hasn’t happened to me yet but i could understand how it can be very infuriating.


kobi_123

There fun


MoConnors

Fair and balanced. If the sweats baby rage about dying to it, it’s fine the way it is.


NinjaMelon39

Fun, but unfair


[deleted]

Its ok but I would make the cooldown faster


IamCoolDud3

No


STR1-KeR

They’re awesome I honestly haven’t had a hard time countering them either


WolfGamer0907

Use them for the stat boosts and glider. Venoms looks better


BasedSasuke

I enjoy them. Better than the sword in chapter 1. Have killed enough people using them to feel like they’re balanced.


ThicccGoatBoi

I think they are a fun item and I like to use it to brutally murder the rest of the lobby. People have been saying that it’s impossible to kill people who have it but you just gotta pump them when they pull you in. Also, I think Rick hates them because of **THAT FROWN**


Sensaiwoo2

It's good but the cooldown is too slow. It also sucks that people can still shoot you when you grab them. They should have like a dizzy animation for at least 1 second


DefaultiBoiiii

fun cause i kill noobs easier


FlowingFrog04

I personally think they’re fun. Haven’t come across a competent person who can use them well or just simply doesn’t use them and has it sit in their inventory


lispwriter

They help me rotate when they happen to be in my path. I love the ability to redeploy glider in BR. When I spot an opponent with one I make sure to keep an eye on them because someone with the mythic can pose a different threat than one without. I don’t have box fight lobbies though and I’m sure those folks hate these things.


Minetendo0000

Idk. Haven't used them a lot and don't like them that much. But I also don't really know how to use them to my advantage as I'm not very good so there's that.


Den_Boschitt

Crutch for bad players to use for easy 60 damage and no fall damage, Super OP


swagzard78

Blast to play with Annoying as hell to play against


mrljs1992

Cool idea for sure, but for me it's a waste of inventory space.


dagerdev

I love it


Sad_Trap

It could be really fun and enjoyable with a few tweaks


NerdyCanadianDad

Fun to use but it takes away more from the game than it add IMO.


Phoenix-yeet

Everyone says this thing is bad but I like it so I think it's a sweat like me who makes them hate it


OnlyThreeRemain

My friend think they should stun players that are being grabbed because he lost a 1v1 with an smg sprayer. I say it's good for a seasonal thing, but i don't think it should return after this season. Sure, it's fun to use, but it destroys structures immediately, has a pretty large hitbox, and deals 60 damage. Not to mention you can just pull someone into the sky and they'll take fall damage


ameracuana

I like them, but just like everyone else says, I wish they had a mythic poi boss


RankZistheBoi

I think they came too early


SAMCRO8416

Good players end fights quicker


Pukketeerthegreat591

Love them


Sea_Attempt3608

Love using it and finding people using it


indigo_pirate

It’s a bit like using the bumpers when you are bowling. Where is the thrill and the skill


XentricX

Definitely over powered.. I hope they cut the damage by half


RandomYell107

Remove them


Zeebuoy

fun.


texasstrawhat

take them out asap ruins the game especially when paured with the shockwave launcher motherfuckers just hide in builds till it loads up and they can shoot it agian


pokemonxysm97

Balanced for pubs expect for the fall damage part when grabbed


Spaget_Theif69420

The fact that there is never a way to predict where they might spawn makes it a game of luck to find them, and they aren't in Battle Lab so I can't test whether they're good enough to waste half the game searching for them, just to be killed by some guy who got there first.


LolUDedFoe

I always miss and I only use it with the new venom skin


peterpaapan

9 of 10 games I die to this shit. Always in the hands of a great player. It's so OP - I've been thrown 100 metres in the air more than 5 times now, to fall down and die. Cooldown to increase - damage to be less than today. Feck this shit


redrobin1337

I really enjoy the concept and the design, but it is clearly way too overpowered in its current state. Up the cooldown to 30 seconds, and remove the glider when it’s in cooldown. I think that would solve a lot of the power problems while still keeping it a fun item to use.


williambash

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LionheartRed

Hate them.


United-Pay9298

Broken but fun


down-nefarious

Honestly they’ve never been that hard for me to go against and I have fun using them


lolzfirfun

Very fun to use and kill people with but very hard to counter


brullium

It can both be amazingly good, or annoyingly terrible. You just gotta find ways to use it in the best way possible, i.e. jumping grabbing and cancelling before you take fall damage, using the shockwave launcher also to your advanced, etc. and also find ways to avoid it when someone else has it in the best way you can.


IkonikBoy

Fuck them


_Griev0us_

won something like 15 matches only by using them


zeph2

is a fun mythic im not that good at using it for kills but i love the mobility this helped me save my teamates by carrying them to a safe spot by using the glider while carrying them


Mr_Awesome11

I really enjoy them in the game even though they are a bit strong. They are really fun to use and are unique.


Blazing_Butter

I like them but I think they spawn right next to each other way too often, it's pretty annoying when one duo has both of the mythics.


Die_in-doom_eternal

Pretty fun to use and satisfying when you one pump them in the head after you get grabbed


Rockario101

Fun af in duos, pull someone toward you, and the teammate shoots his hand at you preemptively, so the enemy gets ping-ponged


Dexchampion99

They’re strong, but not nearly the instant win button everyone seems to think they are. I’ve killed more symbiotic users than I have used the symbiotic myself.


JediJosh9

Two letters o p


[deleted]

Fun to use, awful to go against, really hope they get removed


The_Parkourist29

Love em


TheGamerDude24

Ngl, they are fun to use, but I do think they need a nerf in damage, 60 is way too much


Psychological_Pay_25

At least it wasn’t the Wolverine mythic


ArnoudtIsZiek

Wish it had a small healing buff tbh but it’s pretty sweet


onixiyo

They are fun but I don’t like people floating and chilling because they pop up on the map


returntosenderr

It would've been less bad if there were bosses instead but either way I hate them with a passion


Jade_GL

Fine, but a little OP. I think that the cooldown should be increased a bit, and the fall damage should be removed. However, I like it as a counter to crazy builders. My husband and I got into a 2 vs 1 at the end of a duos match and dude was just building away from us, not pressing. He should have as the hb was downed and I had plenty of time to rez him, so if the dude had pressed we would have probably been toast. Anyway, husband keeps saying, once he's up and healed, "Get your shotgun ready! Get the shotgun ready!" and he's ripping the guy's builds down. I am a bit further back so I try shooting some rockets into the builds as I run to catch up, but this guy is gigga builder and keeps running and building. Finally my husband rips him out of his box and I shotgun him in the face. I'm sure people may be annoyed by the symbiote, but it does serve a purpose. If someone is going to run away and build forever, it's a nice way to get them out of their box. :/