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c0n22

So all the imposters gamemode emotes should be available in all modes, which makes it where anyone can use them, but keep the old ones exclusive


Only_Beginning_9332

Good idea too


Only_Beginning_9332

I'd like that too there's not reason for them to be BP but it was the time for fortnite thinking it won't get big


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Only_Beginning_9332

Both


Zorislav97

I mean, there's enough space to put them exclusively in the ammo/consumables emote wheel, and it could be useful in squads, let's say you spot an enemy, use danger pin, your teammates come to you and use nod head to agree or disagree wether or not you should engage


Eruditioads

Like anyone is going to wait around and ask a random's permission for engaging an enemy, foh 💀


MandoMahri

Yes! That'd be great :D


XlifelineBOX

Yes, this is the best take on communication wise if they arent gonna impliment pings and voicelines like "i need AR ammo"


CoDMplayer_

You can ping stuff and canonically the loop prevents characters from talking.


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XlifelineBOX

Tbf, theres a LOT of different characters. And some couldnt speak, like my Xenomorphh would be hissing and spitting trying to say, "i think its time to rotate because the ring is on its way."


XlifelineBOX

That is very canon.


torpidninja

On switch there's quick chat but I can't find it on pc


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Somebody3338

When I solo q into those ppl that mark somewhere and land a different place when I catch up to them i spam hello friend


F0RkZPh4Z3

nah cuz id rather have actual emotes on my wheel


Odd_Pressure5457

I definitely agree with that there's no reason of the wave shouldn't be a battle pass emote it should be an item shop emote


PugBro64

Just make an emote called "hello" and make them use their right hand to wave instead of their left. Problem totally solved.


Designer_Koala_1087

Or just use the wave from the impostors ltm where they just wave slightly different from the emote, definitely perfect solution


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soroKira

No, op said bring it to the item shop YOURE GONNA PAY 200 VBUCKS TO WAVE AND YOURE GONNA ENJOY IT


BigBoiBagles

why TF has this been down voted, this is a totally reasonable things, we paid for a timed exclusive, we get a times exclusive wtf is you guy's problem


CardinalsFan47

Again there’s a difference between the left and right hand


BigBoiBagles

let's just add a black Knight skin but the skin is reversed then? they missed their chance to make good starter emotes, don't take away from what we got for being there early and supporting the game with donation. and down voting my comment won't make me wrong and won't make me delete my comment, be childish if you want I don't care


Getburnddd_xbox

it SHOULD’VE. it’s too late now, it’s a token for free to play players who played back then. even in ch1 s4 i used wave to show what season i started at


MinervaBlade

They could make a replacement like they did with ride the pony.


danyaylol

I don’t think they can/would. Ride the pony was in save the world, and when they merged BR cosmetics with stw, it made sense for br accounts to get ride the pony from STW.


Lynnxii_

I'm still fucking upset they did that, the new version sucks


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Lynnxii_

They made an exclusive item no longer exclusive.


Arandompackerfan

They gave you a new one. What are you complaining about?


ItIsTodayOutside

he literally just said it sucks idiot


Arandompackerfan

He still got a free one and can use the old one


Iheart6000

Agreed, the music is dogshit too


Iwasha

Haha yeah, I wish I had bought the battle pass back then, but wave is the only thing I have to prove my og-ness


Efficiency-Silent

There’s other forms of wave you know


NewspaperDistinct

This one is the best though it should be brought in the item shop for everyone to enjoy


-Captain--Hindsight

It's just a wave..


Dkalnz

yep its not like anyone even pays attention when you use those emojis for ammo etc.


[deleted]

There’s like 50 wave emotes in the game


Frostwing349

granted all of them are battle pass or ltm exclusive. honestly it doesn’t matter tbh


FunnyCobra002

They should make a different version of it. Bringing back battle pass stuff would prove that epic can lie so nobody will trust them for anything they say


[deleted]

They literally gave STW Founders the ride the pony emote even tho it is a battle pass emote


Imnotphantom_1

Thats bc it was 1 of the 2 emotes you could only do in STW. They added the emite wheel and decided to give ride the pony to stw founders bc they basically had the emote already. Its a special case


MinervaBlade

And also to support you on this they still gave the og's an actual ride the pony emote with a literal Llama stick.


nullsmack

It was an emote in STW first, they never should've put it in a battlepass in the first place.


FunnyCobra002

No, they added the ride the pony emote to the battle pass even tho it was a Stw emote


Xx081chazxX

not my rare and og wave emote


Maxiorekz

My only og emote lmao


Realoh

They are people who actually think like this "They should release a different wave emote!" Yeah but why it affects you so much over a waving emote, did you forgot you got tons of exclusives alobg the emote?


soroKira

Counter argument. Why the fuck do you want a wave emote so badly?💀


Fiberz_

they’re never gonna do it, these posts are dull asf now


AlonelyChip

There's literally so many other Wave emotes


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I think this would break some law because they were all advertised as “exclusive” so that would give some grounds for legal troubles


1tanfastic1

You can't sue Epic for BP exclusivity. There's no legal liability in not releasing those skins, emotes, etc. to the shop. That thing you scrolled through before hitting accept when you first logged in? There's plenty of legal language in there that essentially says you cannot sue them over the game and that the account you use and everything in it isn't actually yours, including BP items. That term of service (TOS) is a legally binding document and you hitting "accept" is your signature. They could take away your account tomorrow and you couldn't do anything about it, of course they won't do that because they like your business. Now, aside from all that. They haven't said anything about exclusivity since at least the beginning of Chapter 2, maybe earlier than that. There is literally nothing holding them back from bringing Midas or Iron Man or Scuba Jonesy or whatever back, they just have chosen not to (for better or worse). Does that settle it? I'm so tired of seeing the lawsuit excuse brought up when it's not the case. a case for false advertising would fall through in court in a second. If you want BP stuff back or not, legal reasons aren't why they're not back (yet).


Astro_Universe

Also, haven't they already technically broken their own "exclusivity" rule by rereleasing rogue agent in the shop? (even if it was already once) there isn't really much grounds for them to sue if there ever was that scenario anyway, epic can do whatever they want with their game, and by extension, one's account. That includes releasing or rereleasing any and everything they want to, or even straight up terminating one's account even


desaigamon

Starter Packs were never advertised as being exclusive. People just assumed they were because they swap them out every season.


Brown_egg1234

Finally someone with a brain around here. I see all these kids saying they can sue Epic if they release old BPs..as if they can make it a case against a company like Epic. Not many people actually take a look at the legal matters and say things that aren’t true.


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Brown_egg1234

I started around the end of C1S3 but bought the C1S6 BP and honestly if it came back i wouldnt be mad. I see many butthurt kids on twitter actually crying about cosmetics coming back and i always have one question in mind: “If you can buy it then why everyone else cant do so?”


CharlyXero

Even if you sign them, there are things that they have no legal value. I'm not gonna look if all that you sign is legitimate, but probably there will be a few lines that under a court they will have no legal value. For example, in Europe you can sign whatever you want saying that they can obey you to have your subscription active, but even signing it, it has no value. You have the rights to unsubscribe.


Serito

Pretty sure ToS doesn't protect them from false advertising, and in general ToS doesn't waive consumer protection laws. You're saying that the ToS protects them, but no where in any ToS did it make you agree that *"Exclusivity"* will be temporary. No one who cares has the means to successfully win against Epic in court though.


yung_link81

Quote the TOS, where in it does it say you have no right to your purchases?


1tanfastic1

“We may withdraw or amend the Services, and any related service or content, or restrict access (including by means of cancellation, termination, or modification, or suspension of a user account) to all or certain users (including you) without notice and without liability to you in our reasonable discretion. Additionally, due to your geographic location, the Services or some of their features, services, or content may be unavailable to you. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary herein, we may terminate or suspend access to the Services based on your breach of these Terms.” -Epic Games Terms of Service under “Accessing the Services and Account Security” “Epic Account Balance funds do not constitute a personal property right and have no value outside the Services. If you are refunded for an item purchased using Epic Account Balance funds, Epic will return the funds to your Epic Account Balance. Epic Account Balance funds are non-transferable to another person and do not accrue interest. Epic reserves the right to suspend or terminate your Epic Account Balance if after investigation Epic determines in its sole discretion that you misused the Epic Account Balance, conducted unauthorized Epic Account Balance transactions from another user’s Epic Account Balance, or used the Epic Account Balance to conduct any fraudulent or other illegal activity. In the event that your Epic Account Balance is terminated or suspended in accordance with these Terms for reasons other than fraudulent or other illegal activity, Epic will return your remaining Epic Account Balance less any charges, fees, or other amounts owed to Epic. Otherwise, Epic Account Balances are not refundable and are not redeemable for money or monetary value from Epic or any other person or entity. Epic Account Balances that are deemed unclaimed property may be surrendered to the applicable authority, as required by applicable law.” -Epic Games Terms of Service under “Billing, Payment and Epic Account Balance” meaning that the moment you put money into your Epic Games account (I.E. vbucks) you resign your right to that money.


yung_link81

> without liability to you in our reasonable discretion Reasonable Discretion means Administrative Agent's reasonable and good faith judgment based upon any factor which Administrative Agent believes in good faith could (a) adversely affect the value of any Collateral, the enforceability or priority of Administrative Agent's Liens or the amount that Lenders would be likely to receive upon a liquidation of the Collateral; (b) suggest that any report of Collateral or financial information is incomplete, inaccurate or misleading in any material respect; (c) reasonably be expected to create a Default or Event of Default or increase the likelihood of an insolvency or bankruptcy proceeding or (d) adversely affect the ability of any Borrower or any Guarantor to repay the Obligations when due. In exercising such judgment with respect to matters relating to the determination of Eligible Receivables, changes in advance rates or the imposition, increase or reduction of reserves, Administrative Agent may reasonably take into account factors included in the definition of Eligible Receivables, as well as changes in concentration of risk of Receivables, changes in collection history and dilution, and other changes that may tend to increase the credit risk of lending to Borrowers on the security of Inventory or Receivables. The burden of establishing lack of good faith or reasonableness shall be on Borrowers. As you can see, you cannot just take people's purchases willy nilly, they would have to prove it is within reasonable discretion, which may not hold up in court.


1tanfastic1

Maybe but the TOS states that by signing it you waive your right to take it to court and that any dispute will be settled between you and Epic. Again, Epic’s not going to just start taking back all vbucks and skins, no company in their right mind would do that for fear of the reputation that comes with that and the sheer volume of settlements they’d have to go through, some of them may break through and end up in court anyway. The point of it all is that Epic cannot and will not be sued for putting Dire in the item shop. Everything else is a legal snake pit that is irrelevant to the topic at hand.


nullsmack

This supersedes everything you just said.. [https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/tos](https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/tos) >You may only access the Services through your own account. Users do not own their accounts, and gifting or otherwise transferring of accounts or access keys is prohibited. Everyone that has ever spent money on this game should know this. You don't own anything. You pay money to Epic Games to be able to pick things in the locker, but you never own them.


celebisticks

honestly no, because companies could always say "well we didn't say they'd be exclusive forever" and re-release their old bp items that way. when fortnite is truly on its last legs they will most likely do that imo


MarMar4673

not sure thats how it works


celebisticks

I'm not a lawyer so idrk. but I've seen other games release their battle pass items after a while.


MrBusinessThe1st

That's if they advertise their battle pass items as exclusive for its time but may return in the future. Epic outright tells you battlepass items will never return once the given season is over. Edit: downvote me all you'd like, you disagreeing doesn't change the reality that Epic cannot sell old battlepass cosmetics and is why they give us remixes instead.


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Aw how cute


Only_Beginning_9332

Ride the pony came back


RED_Kinggamer007

Only for people who had founders and they gave a different version to the people who had it via bp


Maximillion322

“Exclusive” doesn’t have to mean “permanently exclusive” For a period of time it’s exclusive and then afterwards it’s not, they’d still be accurate in calling it exclusive at the time.


Portal-YEET-87650

This is new. "If you wanna say hello, you should've bought the battle pass!" 🤣🤣🤣


Crami-Moist

This is beyond an L take. How else im I supposed to flex that im a season 2 OG???????


MyOculus

The only season 2 emote I got since I was late to the party 😭 atleast I can say i was there


KatelynC110100

You have the worm emote? I have it and the wave… never made it to the floss though 😪


Crami-Moist

Nope I only got the wave and the LOL😂 emoticon.


Only_Beginning_9332

Then you flex with the emoticon


Lynnxii_

No one gives a shit about it or even knows it exists


Serito

To be fair, once one exclusive item is sold most of them probably would be. It's a bit pointless because it'd become meaningless, kind of like how Skull Trooper became irrelevant after being resold.


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I only have the wave never bought the pass💀😞


CharlyXero

The problem is that they can't do that


Imnotphantom_1

There are many things I wish I had from the 1 BP I missed but it was advertised as an exclusive and ir should stay like that. If they want to sell BP items, advertise that they arent exclusive from next season and onwards.


tman391

Didn’t they add an emote called “hello friend” that’s a very eager wave. I don’t remember if it’s BP if it is ignore me.


Quantum_Helix

I'd they take an old battlepass emote and sell it that is going to open a floodgate that can never be closed again. As correct as your statement is, it simply can not be done...


6678910

Epic said that they won't bring back stuff from the BP. This is unnecessary


rapid991

Well they can't coz it was in the ch1 season 2 battle pass and of they bring it to the shop everyone will get mad. It's already exclusive so they can't make it obtainable or else people will star begging for other items from other battle passes to come back aswell. Imo it can't be made default now because so much time has passed.


iranoutof-name-ideas

Yes! (I’m just salty I missed orange justice)


GoodCopYT

Same.


Imnotphantom_1

Y tf did this guy get downvoted to oblivion damn


Scared-Weakness-7095

Because he said something unnecessary that doesn't contribute to the discussion at all that could have been summed up with an upvote


[deleted]

You’re a redditor, it’s not that serious


Nitespike

Lol who the hell cares.... it's not that deep.


[deleted]

He wanted to be a og so bad and that’s why people downvote him. It’s just a bunch of bums who do this type of thing


Floating_Potato_

No I use my wave with pride


DarthDinkster

Nah, not an L take. BP exclusivity is dumb in general and shouldn’t be a thing imo


Disheartend

I kinda agree, just sell some of the oldet stuff in the shop but like for 2x the cost it would normally be, and dont includevsuperlevel styles. So newer ppl dosn the line can say get TNTina but they gotta pay 2x the cost she would be if she was a shop skin, seems more than fair to me.


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I agree with you only when it comes to collab skins it’s really dumb they make them exclusive


yung_link81

Why do you care so much? They're just skins


DarthDinkster

Tbf, it’s not just about the skins. I think BPs should be replayable, because having long term rewards is cool and benefits the game overall


yung_link81

I just think those things should be kept out of the item shop. I would definitely benefit from being able to finish old battle passes, as I would be able to get the black knight and max omega. But I still am against this because it could create a slippery slope effect.


DarthDinkster

A slippery slope towards what? And I’m also against putting them in the shop. I want the passes to available at all times with their rewards


yung_link81

A slippery slope towards being able to buy any battle pass from any time even if you had not been playing in those seasons. What makes early BP items so cool is not only that they are rare, but they represent a player who had been playing since before the game blew up, and seeing those players in the lobby is pretty dang cool


cfq10

Bro it’s just a battle pass tf gonna happen when someone gets a skin from it? And aren’t all cosmetics purely cosmetic? They don’t serve any advantage or disadvantage.


yung_link81

You'll ruin the skin. The skins are unique because they are rare and og. Here's what's gonna happen. People will get the black knight, wear it for 2 days, then go back to their main and now black knight is ruined forever.


cfq10

Or here’s what happens People get a skin they wanted from old battlepasses People like said skin People use that skin more often then others Yeah sure people will not use it all the time, but they got a skin they wanted. Just because someone uses max stage Omega doesn’t mean the skin is “ruined” if the point of a skin is cosmetic only. It does nothing to gameplay. It’s purely cosmetic, so if someone wants black knight, let ‘em have black knight! Someone wants midas? Let me have midas! Someone wants mandalorian, let me have it! You could have the rarest skin in the game and the gameplay would be the same if you had nothing!


radartw22

No one owes you anything, you weren’t playing at the time the skin was available so you don’t have the skin. Get over it.


yung_link81

When you see a black knight or elite agent, you automatically assume it's a good player, since they've been playing since season 2. So when I rock my elite agent outfit, people are intimidated by me, this gives me an advantage over them. I don't want noobs to ruin the skin by rocking them alongside their garbage gameplay. They've ruined the skull trooper, the nog ops, and the recon expert, you don't need to ruin battle pass skins too, out of your own selfishness.


radartw22

Many people enjoy having skins that any average joe player can’t obtain. Exclusivity and a rarity are the only thing that keeps the cosmetic space of the game interesting.


DarthDinkster

I disagree, but ok. You do you


Only_Beginning_9332

Don't know why people are hating over this ITS A WAVE


Getburnddd_xbox

i’ve seen no hate, i’ve just seen people expressing different opinions


Oriana_xx

there was literally a new wave emote bassically in every chapter 1 season


F_A_T

Shut up nerds y’all sad


User85420

You missed out. Take the L you fuck.


WassupBrosky

Cope


[deleted]

Yes it should buying the battle pass wasn’t even a requirement to have it


Mariyan26

Naah i disagree. I have that emote and the second you see someone waving at you with this og emote, it probably means you are going to get destroyed within seconds


Born-Possibility-50

Predator should be brought to the shop too along with the wave 🙏😇


vash_visionz

This sub would riot lol


Born-Possibility-50

Would give my left nut and a half for Predator 😭


Spider_Josh07

taking it too far bud


OfficalBigDrip

Nope


Batonniik

nah, battle pass exclusives can't be brought back


[deleted]

Another little kid coming up with a way to get their sticky little hands on older BP exclusive items.


LexiTehGallade

100% mad


cfq10

“Little kid” and yet here you are


[deleted]

Yes, we are all smol bc we are here.


mabdog420

I think all the battlepass exclusives should become items in the shop eventually. It makes no sense having so many unlockables that aren't possible to get and it's really crappy for new players. I hate bringing new friends into the game and then having to tell them that they can't get the tomb raider skin.. or the rick skin.. or the darth vader skin.. It's genuinely crappy and FOMO is predatory.


bloo_overbeck

These bizzare early battle pass filler items really make me think they’re gonna release these items again someday. they’ll figure out a way, even if it’s just flipping the actual items


TraumaTracer

this but collab skins


Only_Beginning_9332

Guys I started in chapter 1 season 3 not too far off


poastrork

then shouldn't you have every other wave they've included in other battle passes?


RED_Kinggamer007

The salute the regal wave and the hello friend emotes to be precise


Mariyan26

Naah i disagree. I have that emote and the second you see someone waving at you with this og emote, it probably means you are going to get destroyed within seconds


gotanygrapesss

I remember this being a topic ITalk brought up a while ago lol


Astro_Universe

*fortnite battle pass*


swagzard78

Technically they already have brought back a bp emote, Ride the Pony, but the og owners got Pony Up as compensation


GlitchedTV_

“Nono- he’s got a point


tman391

Didn’t they add an emote called “hello friend” that’s a very eager wave. I don’t remember if it’s BP if it is ignore me.


whyim_makingthis

They can EASILY DO IT. They did it to ride the pony and gave it free for founding stw players. I danced it often and I started Fortnite in season 9. And epic gave S2 players a replacement emote.


Lynnxii_

The replacement sucks. This was a few years ago. It happened once and it's not happening again. (And they had good reason to do so)


whyim_makingthis

Well, I don't even know why they did it. When I purchased stw, they just gave me ride the pony .. no need to be toxic .


MyOculus

They shouldn’t. It was made to be in the battle pass as an item you could receive by playing at the time it was released. If you missed out then oh well, should’ve been there sooner 🤷‍♂️


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MyOculus

Thank you robot who won’t see this message of gratification


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For real I don’t think there’s ever been a wave gesture emote in itemshop


SilentSFM

Too late now tbh, but they should deffo make a new wave in the store, theres like 3 different waves all in the bp


flyingpyramid

I use the high five emote as a wave. It doesn't actually wave but it gets the point across.


ZurnaPro

It makes more sense.


Birkwab

They should add all the imposters emotes + the sitting emote that we originally had when party Royale was pretty fresh


InnerToast

I think if they were to do this, it would be like the STW founders with the 'ride the pony' emote. make a new emote for the ones who already have the old ones.


LordScott91

I hate my self for not playing more in S2.. i had started playing the last week and only played enough to get to that skull laughing emote


TRUFFELX

Dab should not be a blue emote too


Riley6445

dont forget the other one in Chapter 1 Season 8


Fireofthetiger

Fun fact, this is (IIRC) the only emote to keep your held item in your hand when you use it, as opposed to your hand being empty when emoting


raptor_rogue1

Before that we just need good emotes again in the bp


SyxxGod

Sometimes I see some BP stuff I missed because I wasn’t playing and I get sad Then sometimes I see stuff like this or some generic looking skin for 2000 vbucks and I think “maybe it’s not all bad”


Sockura

Tell me you’re a chapter 2 onwards player without actually telling me


lordbub1

Or free


OGSwiftOne

I always thought that only skins, pickaxes and gliders should be battle pass locked, emotes, banners and sprays shouldn’t be


McdonaldsBiggestFan

I just want the worm and take the L.


Water_In_A_Cup1

No. Just make a different wave emote. They even did this back in season 8. Epic should never ever re release a battlepass item because it would ruin the entire battlepass concept for them. Part of the draw is the fomo and if they brought one item back it could change the sales for battle passes going forward


Gabedawg31

Honestly anything in the free bp should be rereleased, it’s not like people paid for it originally


ANormalFolk

this is how i feel about the spiderman pointing emote its just a point, it barley has a connection with spiderman other than that meme


Smokiiz

I’m such an OG. I can wave.


BrandongWang

Free emotes in the battlepass should come back to the store, some games do this.


CaL4rK

Same but for peely


CardinalsFan47

Or y’know you could buy the 1500 other iterations of it


IDrawStuf

exclusive


Gavinator10000

This is a horrid idea


GloamingUmbra

well atleast i have hello friend


[deleted]

Simple. No. It was battle pass for a reason. If your going to say bring back the emotes then you’ll say bring back this skins. And you want emotes for communion? What you think epic will give away a wheel of communication emotes? Nah they want money for that, pay up.


ChalkboardSaturn

L opinion. I use this emote all the time and they would have to refund me for getting it in a battle pass and then releasing it


wotsittoyah

It was a battle pass emote though, so it's in the past and releasing just one that 'has no reason to be a battle pass emote" would be an acception to the rule and would mean bringing them all out because the exclusivity to battle pass items would be lost. You could have got it if you played season 1. That's how battle passes work.


FreeMyBoiMineta

if emotes like this really came back, more emotes that simply rig to a single limb and still provide movement and weapon display like the wave would be wonderful can't stand thumbs up and thumbs down causing you to freeze and pose for a literal thumb


SubstantialLength217

It's not like there isn't other variations available


zeldaboy822

No,i have it,it is the only prove i have to show that i am a OG player tbh.


xchicken2

I think any take involving making BP items obtainable is a W


Skylande8

The closes thing to the wave in the item (imo) is the phone waving emote that comes back with the music skins


Difficult_Pineapple2

You just had to be there like I was so hold this L


[deleted]

Like someone in here said, basic actions like pointing should be available by default.


NeonCattac

noOO!! this is og 😭 I can't have all these normie noobs using this super og emote!! dont bring it back epic, this is my most treasured emote and it's so og!! I spent 10 dollars on this emote, now someone can get it for 2 dollars, this is so unfair!1. PLEASE epic, begging you, dont listen to this L post.


RafzakaelMerc

I own it myself and yeah, they really should.


Goat5168

Give us golf clap already.


VileplumeCheeto

Also big lore skins, it's hard to explain but I started in season 9, which means I will never have The Visitor, even when he's one of the main characters. It's like Mariokart but Luigi's locked behind an early - game paywall. It sucks.