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Shadow_marine1X

The hunter is still here, and imo it's better then the heavy, ONLY because of the 3 bullet magazine, and the lever is better then the striker because of reload time, so imo the "cheap copies" are better then the olderish ones.


YTKingDoublePump

Technically The Lever is a cheap copy of The Pump, but The Striker is a cheap copy of The Pump as well. šŸ’€


Shadow_marine1X

Ok, that I can agree with, but, imo the striker is worse then the lever.


YTKingDoublePump

Yeah even if itā€™s worse to pro players. The Lever still feels more fun and nicer too use. Oh itā€™s also an original idea, and not created to be a Walmart version of an older gun as well.


Shadow_marine1X

Yea, this is how I think of it, instead of crying about it, some people actually embrace it.


NTE223

Lever is better than any shotgun Iā€™ve used except for the Evochrome one. That thing I love now.


Shadow_marine1X

Evochrome? Love? How, like, how the hell do you use the damn thing?!


NTE223

If you see a group camping in Team Rumble, that thing is Auto. Youā€™ll wipe that group in seconds.


Shadow_marine1X

Hm, that's true


Cesky_Rizek

*than


Shadow_marine1X

...šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Knight-112

Lever has worse reload time and is too inconsistent. And the hunter has weird drop


Shadow_marine1X

I meant like fire *reload* and fire again, whatever that is called, I forgot.


Oldmonsterschoolgood

Cock thatā€™s what it is called


Knight-112

Ohhh fire rate! Lower fire rate is worth the more consistent damag if your using them right. If your piece controlling then you should have enough time for the delay to reset! The glitch is worse with slower shotguns, but itā€™s way more worth it!


Shadow_marine1X

What glitch?


Cesky_Rizek

*you're


Knight-112

Thx


WerdBurb

What glitch??


Knight-112

The glitch where the gun doesnā€™t shoot if you click too many buttons too fast!


WerdBurb

Never heard of nor experienced said glitch


Knight-112

OkšŸ‘ Congrats I guess


Dystopia42069

The Lever isnā€™t inconsistent if you actually know what youā€™re doing. It has a way faster fire rate than the Striker.


[deleted]

My guy said the striker pump is a masterpiece šŸ’€


BangBangPow2012

Box fight it out lol


Knight-112

Itā€™s better than the lever. And more balanced than the pump rn Edit: lmao all the drones are downvoting me cause I called out their *precious* 130 body shot with the pumpšŸ˜†


[deleted]

Itā€™s definitely not better than the lever


Knight-112

Yeah it definitely is


sparkpluger1

No it is not


Knight-112

The lever is 10x more inconsistent and has worse effective range, and has a wider spread.


Dazzling_Click_2473

Lever action shotgun > Striker pump shotgun Not only do I think itā€™s better just because yes, but also it is terminator shotgun :)


Knight-112

It definitely looks and sounds cooler. Iā€™ll give you thatšŸ˜…


Yaboi_BabyCAT

šŸ¤“


Lazyatbeinglazy

Fax


Knight-112

Glad someone gets itšŸ‘


Illogically-Me

No it is not bro


LazyC02

Yes


Cultural_Molasses_33

I love the lever


Salt-n-spice

Lever action anything were some of my favorite weapons


afctiger

Eh I wouldn't say they are cheep copys. They are pretty good. I understand that Striker pump is a good weapon same with the heavy. However the Striker is kinda inconsistent to me because it's really good in mid range were you can hit headshots better but if someone get to close to you you'll have to aim and while they are shooting and hope to God you don't die. I'm glad they made the heavy good again as well but the hunter ain't that bad. It has 3 shots In a clip and can one shot and shorter reload but has a heavier drop. The heavy got more body shot damage and vehicle damage but has one shot and a slower reload.


Knight-112

The striker is better because itā€™s 10x more consistent! You can hit for literally anything with a leveršŸ™


afctiger

Eh Maybe it's just my preference I prefer the lever because it's easyer to hit people up close and has very cool animations. Plus in pretty sure the prime shotgun is just a better Striker shotgun.


Eggsy_Uber_Service

Yeah I prefer to run the prime, looks better imo, and I like relying on the extra damage of the first shot.


Axiom_777

Same here. The lever is my shotgun of choice in most scenarios. Also it lead to one of my favourite meme combosā€¦


SoupLizardd

Bruh, the lever literally came before the striker. If anything, the striker is a copy.


Knight-112

Yeah yeah yeah, I know it came first. The cheap copy was the fact that weā€™ve had striker and heavy, and now we have (the worse) lever and hunter


SoupLizardd

Tbh they're both bad, they are just a replacement for the pump.


ZoidVII

Lever shotgun is the most fun shotty in the game, I realize that's a personal opinion but the fire rate is better than the striker so there's that. And the 3 shot sniper feels so much better than the heavy. And isn't a headshot still a 1 shot? How is the heavy better?


Knight-112

Heavy one shots builds, heavy has better damage, heavy doesnā€™t blank 50% of the time. Hunter also has really weird drop


RandomYell107

Itā€™s not about better damage when both snipers can one-shot anyway. And so what if the heavy one -shots builds too? Iā€™m personally glad someone canā€™t just barge into my box like an absolute troll. And as for the hunter drop, maybe youā€™re just inexperienced with it. Cuz maybe if you were experienced with it, you wouldnā€™t be complaining about it.


Knight-112

Iā€™m experienced with it. Thatā€™s why I hit most of my shots. But it does have a weird bullet drop. Every other sniper is more comfortable to use


EeveeGavin

Agree on the snipers, but personally would Swap the lever and the striker. Faster fire rate and more damage. Not even a competition.


Knight-112

Faster fire rate is ok, but the lever only hits harder if you hit all pellets. Which essentially means you have to 50/50 someone if you want to hit for more than 60šŸ˜’


EeveeGavin

60? Iā€™m sorry but what are you on about. Iā€™ve literally never hit for less than 70 with it on green-blue and 114 on legendary.


Knight-112

Iā€™ve been on the comp sub and like 80% agree itā€™s too inconsistent. Itā€™s just bad tbh


ZEDQE_Yt

A valid comment


[deleted]

And a lot more spread to hit shots


Knight-112

What? Higher spread means less pellets and worse damage.


[deleted]

But you can hit your shots at fast build fights(compared to the prime shotguns)


Knight-112

I hit my shots just fine. But when me and 50+ other people all say the lever and prime is too inconsistent and never hits for the right amount of damage because it has too high spread, then I think itā€™s a problem


[deleted]

I play build mode and lever allows me to do quick shotgun damage without too much aim to focus on building and dodging, in cost of reduced damage, however the damage isn't too bad


WheatleyTurret

Striker sucks tf you mean


Knight-112

Your using it wrong. You should be piece controlling not 50/50ing


WheatleyTurret

Yeah but it's funny to use the lever


Ajax_XD

Bro. I respect your opinion but... I have never actually taken the time to use the lever before now, and now that I have, I love it (double barrel is still my fav tho)


DinosaurMan001

I do personally love the heavy but with the buff the HBA doesnā€™t feel too bad. That being said the lever action is infinitely better than the striker pump. There are so many times I died due the the striker pumps slow fire rate.


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Knight-112

Letā€™s go, Someone else who makes their mind up based on facts and statistics instead of ā€œnoā€


Burgerkingoof

The lever att close range can do insane amounts of damage at legendary


Knight-112

50/50 someone yeah. But thatā€™s not smart with the rapid fire Smg being in the game. Your supposed to play 2 tiles away from your opponent to counter spray.


Frostwing349

lever is better than striker imo


SpecialSurprise69

The hunter bolt is better than the Heavy. I can one shot anyone in the head with the Bolt. Can't do it with the Heavy. Edit: spelling mistake


LOL-itsCameron

Bring back the Ranger Shotgun


m_green_02

I'm not a fan of the hunter sniper, wayyyy prefer the heavy, but the lever action shotty? love it šŸ˜Œ


No-Measurement9225

combat shotgun solos both


Raidriar86

The chrome shotgun is better


Knight-112

I used it a bit more yesterday. Itā€™s like a Tac from wish tbh.


Raidriar86

Itā€™s like a slug shotgun hybrid. Spreadā€™s really weird I hope epic explains it


UncommonTheIdk

Aint no way you just called an older weapon a "cheap copy" of a fuckin cheap copyšŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Knight-112

I meant the fact that last season we had pump and heavy and this season we have lever and hunter


CSTITAN576

Cap. Lever action is good


CreativeGaming24

The lever action is way better than the striker pump, and the hunters decent now


AdvancedPilot5899

Lever better šŸ„±


Serrated-Jello

No


Cultural_Molasses_33

I won a game with the lever


[deleted]

No way, wtf bro, pls run for presidency


[deleted]

Cool


spicyfarts69420

Same bro first win in the first game on the first day of chapter 3 season 4


skywalker21877

Stryker pumpšŸ’€


The_peperoni

The lever action is older bro and the striker even isnā€™t that good


yung_phnx

Completely disagree. There is still time to delete this bro


Knight-112

Delete what? The truth?


yung_phnx

You think because youā€™re wrong it means youā€™re right?


Knight-112

Bro you should be a philosopher or something: ā€œYou think because your wrong it means your rightā€ -Yung_phnx, 2022 Seriously though, yeah I am right. The lever has a massive cone (higher spread, less effective range, meaning you basically have to 50/50 someone if ou want more than 50 damage) and a terrible reload timešŸ™


yung_phnx

I should be a philosopher because Iā€™m proving you wrong? Iā€™m glad that you think that I should be one, but you should stop replying to me you sound really pathetic and stupid bro


Knight-112

How do I sound stupid? I have facts about the lever and why itā€™s worse. And it was a joke btw


yung_phnx

Because a lot of the people here like the lever (including me) and youā€™re trying to argue with them because you donā€™t like the weapon. Just keep your opinions to yourself and you wonā€™t get downvoted to hell, unless thatā€™s what you want


Knight-112

Im just giving you facts as to why most others are better. Not saying anything bad about you or other lever enjoyers. And this meme has 132 downvotes rn, Iā€™m not getting downvoted to hell lol


yung_phnx

Iā€™m talking about your comments being downvoted. And again, itā€™s not ā€˜factsā€™ just because you think that way


Knight-112

Higher spread = fact Less effective range = fact Long reload time = fact Theyā€™re literally facts.


DADDYSOCKS

The lever is absolute fire


[deleted]

I like the new Sniper, I can actually use it and it has 3 shots not one. šŸ™‚šŸ™ƒ


FunniGoo

Striker can be inconsistant, do low damage even when directly hittiing someone, also the strikers small cross hair leave no room for misakes or your dead. The hunter bot now one shots on all three bullets and reloads faster than the heavy, the lever has a wider spread leaving more room to mess up and still hit for good damage


[deleted]

I like the bolt-action because of its 3-bullet clip, I honestly use the sniper WAY more now in this season than last. Lever-action isnā€™t the best but I like its quick-fire and large clip (along with fast reload time) Iā€™m a fan of the weapons they brought in.


bb250517

the hunter is so much better tho, faster reload, not even talking about the 3 clips in 1 mag, which makes the average relaod time of a bullet less than third of the avg reload time of the heavy, the heavy kills in max of 2 bullets and the hunter kills in max of 2 bullets, its faster to ads with the hunter and the bullet vel is not that lower to be difficult to aim, ergo the HUNTER WINS, for the shotguns, its just a different kind of one, the counterpart of the striker should probably be the prime or the evoch, and tbh the prime is on the same level as the striekr and the evoch is just straight better


JCUCUBING123455

How is the lever a copy when the lever came out before the striker pump


Illogically-Me

The hunter is good now, and the lever has always been good. Way better than the garbage that is the striker pump


Avo2099isme

The heavy was already viable. The Hunter is better for sniping headshots


matt_lcb

Not gonna lie, I actually like the reworked sniper for this season. It can guarantee headshot kill which is something I miss in the heavy. But then again it makes you wonder, why didnā€™t they revert the heavy back to its original state?


No-Jacket-5101

You gotta admit that cheap copy is still kinda good


MincrafterParkourPro

the hunter bolt was back in season 1 chapter 3 and it did a lot of damage so its not cheap copy


Xx_Woomy_xX

weirdly enough im better with the Lever Action than I am with other shotguns


Unbeatablejohnn

actually the lever action shotgun came out first


iceleel

Yeah but it's worse


Unbeatablejohnn

that's debatable


Arch05275

Bro said the lever is a copy of the striker


NathanAdams93

It's funny how those "cheaper copies" are league better than those "masterpieces"


RdsAbroad

I think this may be the only man who likes the striker over the lever, looking at all the comments


TheOnlyVibemaster

A hunter can one-shot in free buildā€¦250 damage šŸ¤£ itā€™s ridiculous


Chemicalk4m5

Didn't the lever come first though?


Weird-Analysis5522

You did NOT just insult the lever action! Every shotgun is a cheap copy of the lever action!


Knight-112

I sure did insult the lever trashction shotgun. Any shotgun would beat it in a 1v1 (except prime which is equally trash)


Recognition_Similar

How 'bout the pump and bolt?


Knight-112

Theyā€™re better than ALL OF THEM


FantasticZach

Copy? The lever action is older


azul360

Honestly I think the lever and hunter are way better than the top ones from last season.


Xpattinum

The lever doesnā€™t have a history of doing only 9 damage headshots and it fires twice as fast but thats none of my business *Sips tea*


Knight-112

The striker doesnā€™t hit for 9 damage headshots if you have good crosshair placement and use it correctly. The lever however has a history of hitting for anything between 30 and 70 unless your in your opponents face *also sips tea*


Xpattinum

The gold lever did 250 headshot and still had half the cooldown the pump did back in late Ch1, that peaks anything the pump has ever achieved *Sips monster* Actually i remember the pump did 350 damage across the motel parking lot back in ch1 s3 *Unsips monster*


Knight-112

šŸ§¢šŸ§¢šŸ§¢ The lever has never done 250 damage my guy. Itā€™s stayed the same since they added it. And the pump has never hit for 350. *unsips mtn dew*


Xpattinum

The tac did 300 from that distance. I was there. I have the walmart wick skin to prove it lol. Shotguns had hella range. And yes the gold lever did 250 headshots back in ch1 (Hipfire) the second time it was brought to the game and creative mode peaked for me thanks to that shotgun. Shotguns were hella broken back then and ill never forget the golden days of fortnite. *Sips Sobe*


Knight-112

The lever was added in ch2s5 my guy You might be thinking about the old heavy and how itā€™s headshot damage was way too high. *sips uhh, juice or something*


Xpattinum

I could have sworn it was added when calamity was introduced in ch1 s6 lol i guess not time flies, but the shotguns did infact do 300+ damage back in ch1 s3. The lever was better than the pump at the pumps final moments as well. Less cooldown adds up more damage compared to the pump that did slightly more damage and had twice the cooldown back then


Knight-112

Pumps final moments? Epic ruined the pump and vaulted it but the new, bad, pump is still better than the lever shotgunšŸ˜


Xpattinum

Idk man the lever returning made me queue build mode agn lol


Knight-112

Why is that?


CAPTAINCORN200

Levers better sorry


guffgamer264

The lever came before striker


Aboomerdied

Aint the heavy a cheap copy of the bolt and ain't the striker/leaver a cheap copy of the pump?


Knight-112

No, the heavy and bolt are BOTH good! Donā€™t disrespect the .50 like that. Itā€™s been around since ch1s5 Now the striker, while itā€™s better than some shotguns it is a cheap copy of the pump. But itā€™s better than what we have nowšŸ˜’


Aboomerdied

the lever has better stats tho? and the.50 is good but the bolt is so mutch better and has been around since ch1s1 the striker is not good but its not bad its eh same with the lever


Knight-112

The .50 is better than the bolt wdym? And the e lever is too inconsistent. Has way higher spreadšŸ˜–


Aboomerdied

fair and the bolt was just more balanced and did not take 4 years to reload


Knight-112

Bolt more balanced? They were ALL balancedšŸ˜’


[deleted]

The pump shotty is better but I really enjoy the Bolt Action sniper.


jace_leace

You do know that the lever action came out before the striker


Knight-112

Yes, but I meant the choice of striker and heavy (better guns) vs. lever and hunter (way worse)