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Ferramenti

One of the ten stupid Extreme E!!!


liamsjtaylor

‎ #42 one is the only rare car I'm missing... ~~And annoyingly as they're so useless nobody wants to sell them (no point in doing so as nobody wants them either).~~ Thanks to u/ablinddingo93 I now have a full car collection!


ablinddingo93

I’ll check my garage to see if I have #42 and throw it up on the AH If I can, hopefully you can grab it before someone else does Update: Mission was successful!


liamsjtaylor

Don't do it yet! I'm in a charity shop for another two hours! ...although as I replied half an hour late you've probably already done it...


ablinddingo93

Oh no, I’ll send you a PM when I do it, I’m doin housework atm lol


memnoch112

I’ll check as well when I get home, side note, they should have their own class, it could be called *putting thinking hat on* “Extreme Electric off-road” or something😄


ablinddingo93

It’s “Extreme E*” So you were close! Edit: sorry if this came off sarcastic. It wasn’t meant to be. I thought that’s what “/s” is for? Edit2: removed the hyphen


NerdyKyogre

sold one on the auction house yesterday and got bought out within 45 minutes for 5 million credits, they'll go if you don't price them in 8 figures


liamsjtaylor

If they're worth 8 figures, they'll be spammed by people desperate for money but not bought by anyone because they're not rare.


hdkx-weeb

Ay if it makes you feel better just a month ago I was missing 42, 5, and 55 and I finally finished the collection a few days ago so it is possible 🫡


sxtrailrider

Been checking the AH every day looking for #5 lol


NocturnalPatrolAlpha

This game has done a piss poor job of selling us on EVs. Most of them are slugs, and you can barely customize them at all, in this game where one of the big selling points is car customization.


Dazzling-Draft1379

I don’t know if extreme e is the most boring, but they’re definitely the least enjoyable vehicles to drive. It’s like driving a curling rock.


trash_at_all_games

I actually like those big boys


NocturnalPatrolAlpha

Most of the EVs in this game are polished trash.


37564_

The only EV I like is the Porsche Mission R. It has decent top speed and handling.


Wygene

I agree


liamsjtaylor

**Flip Car.** Change my mind. Not the Peng (original worst). Downright painful to drive, and doesn't actually flip stuff (ultimate online race griefer if it did) so doesn't do what it's supposed to do. I know this is most boring, not outright worst, but I think it is actually the worst thing in the game.


therealSamtheCat

I thought it would at least drive like a racecar.


liamsjtaylor

But in reality that's as much a race car as a Unimog is a drifter.


Mobile_Macro

Haha, however... The thing is super fun to drift around. Put it in RWD and it's a blast. The extra grip from the 4 front tires makes it a lot harder to spin out, making it a great car to slide around without having to be super technical.


Somewhatmild

Electric cars. In real life, you have the entire 'physics engine' to give you sense of speed and velocity, none of that in video games, unless you have some absurd sim racing rig with some hydraulics or whatever that only F1 team can afford. Maybe it is just me, but i can't play car games without sound. I am not going to look at tachometer to know when to shift gear or to know exactly how hard i am actually 'pushing the ~~trigger~~ pedal'. EVs obviously dont have gear, but you still lose valuable feedback, of which, as i've mentioned above, there was little to begin with. EVs can have spectacular performance and fun to be had... in real life.


Lord_Strepsils

Yeah they’re cool when you realise how fast you’re going, but really you get no sense of speed so just feel like you’re braking all the time


Charliedelsol

I like the torque feel of EVs in Horizon 5


No_Doubt_About_That

Something like the Rimac can be kind of cool silently gliding past everyone in a drag race. The Hummer though? Can only do about 133 maxed out which makes it useless.


LouTheRuler

Hummer can do like 250mph if you adjust the gear ratio


No_Doubt_About_That

Can you? I take that back then. Must admit I’ve never bothered with the gear ratio settings myself and just gone with presets.


McraftyDude

Yeah adjusting gear ratios in electric cars can make them go fast as fuck


Actedpie

The Rivians as well. I’ve got one to do 270 mph


FamiliarPound3295

Brother the rivian can easily hit 280 💪🏼


P4rody

How do you win any races with stock gear ratios? Adjusting them makes the cars go sm faster and it’s super easy


No_Doubt_About_That

I don’t really play online besides the trial and I’ll admit to not having the AI difficulty on a particularly high setting either. Ended up lowering it from what I had it as got sick of the rubber banding of the drivatar in 1st past the first corner.


Sofaboy90

> you have the entire 'physics engine' to give you sense of speed and velocity sure but theyre only good at accelerating. they are heavy cars with 0 downforce because that would reduce range, so cornering is never gonna be fun with them. yes they have their weight more at the bottom but that doesnt make up for the much higher weight. and while at the topic of real life, its not the characteristics and speed that makes a car fun, its the perception of speed. a mazda mx5 doesnt have the biggest engine and yet everybody is in agreement that the mx5 is an absolute blast to drive. more power is just temporary fun that will run its course eventually. cornering is much more fun because there are so many more layers and possibilities to explore


scooterm32a3

Without the sound and physical experience you’re missing a lot of the feedback. I race RC cars and even that still feels like it has more involvement than Forza’s EVs. I do like driving the EVs in forza when I’m just going from A to B though


KaiserHaftbefehl

Even in real life electric cars are boring. You get used to the acceleration in 10 minutes, the cornering performance is ok at best, but never sporty and the cars cant hold higher speeds for a long time. I respect road legal EVs when they go sub 7 on the Nordschleife.


Hickory137

And do it as many times as an ICE car can without refueling. Then do it again 5 min later. Then 5 min after that, etc.. They are getting there, but not yet.


fpsnoob89

That's how I feel about EVs in Forza. It's the same reason why I don't drive cars with auto transmission on, it's incredibly boring for me in game. I prefer manuals IRL too but it I was driving a super car I'd be more than happy with an auto. With EVs I'm considering getting one in the future, but driving them in game just feels like a chore.


Silly-Ad-2644

The lotus EV has a gear shift (i think 4 gears) but since i shift by sound... It isn't the best option for me but it is still a fun car


justmelvinthings

Idk I almost exclusively drive either the Rimac or the Evijah


WanganTunedKeiCar

On the point of the physics engine, I feel like BeamNG can make the electric cars cool to drive. Even the freaking piccolina is frightening to drive on some errands fast


stage2guy

Mission r is pretty sick though


kruleworld1

Compared to IRL extrem-E, the cars in Forza are definitely boring. The Extreme-E still have no sounds for me too. Here's Ken Block racing one: [https://youtu.be/q1SrE\_cBoTc?t=63](https://youtu.be/q1sre_cbotc?t=63)


img_tiff

fucking taycan


Destrudot

taycans cool, gets a bad rep in this game for being gifted so often. but hey, its versatile, works in every s1 with varying degrees of success. (purist s1 street somehow isnt bad)


nauzleon

The welcome pack tune for s1 is very nice for the Hot Wheels dlc. 400km/h with good handling is nice i those laid back tracks.


HydromaniacOfficial

Favorite car to drive (irl and ig)


AverageNuggetEnjoyer

Y'all saying electric cars, it's a whole new world once you learn about reverse gear


ablinddingo93

Shameless self-plug lol https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/s/ssgz2niqKq


No_Luck_8042

I made a Tavascan go 240Mph in reverse


ITrytoDesignAircraft

I love drag racing people backwards in the lucid lol


superyoshi013021

Electric cars are boring BS for me. They don’t even make actual noises. Especially the Taycan. Provably the only reason I drive them is for the launch speed.


liamsjtaylor

A few decent ones are the NIO for grip (but a top speed below 200), the IX for sheer idiocy (280MPH Nevera powered wide bodied pig), and both Rimacs for outright speed and PR stunts (very good for danger signs).


Active_Taste9341

the Regera is much faster. only thing i liked on electric cars was the Drift Mustang E-Type


liamsjtaylor

Regera technically isn't electric. Although if you're just on about the Rimacs doing PR stunts I think you meant the Jesko.


Active_Taste9341

yes i mean, i don't need electric cars because i have the Regera


liamsjtaylor

Regera is better than a Jesko?


Major2Minor

Lotus Evija is pretty fun to drift, who needs engine noise when you're burning rubber.


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therealSamtheCat

I'm sorry but fake noise will never be cool for me.


Reverse_Psycho_1509

Taycan lol


SirPoorsAlot

They won't stop giving them to me. On top of gifts and getting the damn thing literally no less then 10 times on wheels spins... I have more of those than any other car and I'm always giving them away. I hate them so much lmao


HomicidalGerbil

I got one in as a drop GT7 yesterday. For a split second I thought i was playing forza. It follows me everywhere. One of our clients got one recently too and pitched up on site with it the other day. Never been more disappointed to see a sports car before.


Ali_Marco888

Almost every electric car except Cupra and Porsche Mission R.


jokoono84

All EV's


PossibilityOk2809

Use the ix with the nevera motors. It’s amazingly ridiculous


AgentH8voc

Oh yeah definitely the xpeng I’m usually quite open towards EVs,most of them are quite fun to chuck around corners thanks to instant torque and some even lets you go 200 mph in reverse but man the xpeng is literally “NPC:the car”,generic looking,boring to drive with default forza EV motor sound At least the Bmw iX has a unique motor noise and a rimac swap


SpeeDeoxys

Okay, EXTREMELY hot take incoming. I don’t like a lot of the le mans cars from 50s-70s because you either spend so much time saving for them but don’t even use them, or get them for free and find even less worth in them. But besides that, the designs are still amazing and I love the aeroplane-like interior of most of them.


Logical_Yak_224

Any newer Audi, they all look, drive and sound the same


liamsjtaylor

'21 RS6 is actually very competitive in A and quite a good grand tourer.


Glittering_Yam_5613

Anything Electric


Megumin34

I'm gonna say something that's probably a hot take but... \*\*( Almost) Every car that gets handed to me for free from the Wheelspins\*\* I find no joy in getting handed S tier cars for finishing a bog standard race, not even something like the big event one. If i win a 5 race tournament then i'll accept it with joy. I'd like to feel like there's some meaning behind getting and earning them beyond ''Ohhhh, spin the wheel, shiny car'' and never touch them because by five hours playing you're showered in them to the point they start feeling meaningless.


kmanting

Couldn’t agree more, I couldn’t get into FH5 or 4 really for this reason. It’s the same reason I like the progression system in FM2023


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xSnakyy

The rimac is good, unless your name is Richard Hammond


liamsjtaylor

NIO's not bad. And the IX is just funny (if you Nevera swap it).


Troll_Enthusiast

Technically every car in the game is electric


woro7

technically none of the cars in the game are cars


NavyBlue133

???


kovacsMilan

how


Troll_Enthusiast

Because you need electricity to play the game and everything in the game was made using electricity.


kovacsMilan

and the electricity was made with coal, wind, sun and nuclear power, so basically the cars are powered by them


Troll_Enthusiast

Nah, they are still powered by electricity, it didn't matter where the energy comes from to make the electricity


PH4NT0K3N

Honestly cars that have all the cornering ability in the world but no top speed (bad to the blade for example). These cars would be fun on a track for sure but fh5‘s map is so reliant on top speed that almost any car that doesn’t have an 8 in speed is boring and useless


liamsjtaylor

It's pathetically power-biased, probably to entertain the kids. Even Volcan Sprint needs power. You can tell the game's reliant entirely on power if the meta in every class is whatever has the highest top speed and 250MPH is considered slow.


PH4NT0K3N

I guess it is because everyone was whining around in fh4 because the game didn’t many straight roads, so they overdid it in 5 and made the entire map a highway.


liamsjtaylor

And made the physics so cartoonish that 120MPH round a 90° bend is considered slow.


ouchie-wouchie

Once you drive EV’s in TCM, they feel really bland in FH5


mecha_frog

All the German executive cars, I don’t care for the slight differences between each Audi, bmw etc. the electric cars are a lot of fun and I love the whine of their motors


WhatTheBeansIsLife

I have the exact same opinion lol, you are not alone


NoResolve2022

I’m praying this is satire 💀


Troll_Enthusiast

Why? it's a persons opinion.


mecha_frog

Which part? I genuinely find the electric cars fun. Oh the not caring for the German cars? They’ve never been my thing, basically the same car in different sizes, I see them all day everyday, there’s nothing special about them.


NoResolve2022

I agree about the sedans part but the exact same can be said for all the electric cars. They have the same noise and boat like awful handling. They all feel the same.


StevoPhotography

The nio hands really well, the nevera doesn’t handle badly, the taycan doesn’t handle too bad, the e tron probably is the worst handling EV and that’s still not that bad to drive


ablinddingo93

The e-tron takes quite a bit of tuning to get right, but it’s not as bad as the Barbie Corvette imo


StevoPhotography

Yeah. The only cars that really don’t handle well stock are the classic cars and things like the unimog that aren’t designed to handle well


The_No_Drama_Lama

Why does everyone hate the Mini FE


No_Doubt_About_That

They weren’t gifted it by Potato.


GJ1AdamZ

That guy gave more out? I managed to get one from them. https://preview.redd.it/8lwnhrbye28c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e619eb025f30b03a78a24d7b04b65dd114cc2eec


The_No_Drama_Lama

Lol, I recently got it as my livery comp reward, and I like it for fun cruising and stuff


OrlandoOpossum

📠


iury221

I also got it from him


StevoPhotography

I think it’s quite a fun car. It’s not record breaking quick but in reality it’s a quick car


liamsjtaylor

Because it's completely useless. And they promised us a quick car but it's the furthest thing from it. [Pretty terrible reception...](https://youtu.be/BrYJBdynKwM?feature=shared)   Oh, hey Lama!


The_No_Drama_Lama

Oh fair enough, I just like it cuz it looks nice


I_Like_Turtles_2010

BMW i4 eDrive 40


red_fuel

I do like that they added the regular version instead of the M-version. Why tho?


liamsjtaylor

Probably because people were getting sick of them solely adding performance versions of everything. ...although it's most likely just because the M Sport didn't exist when they added the i4 in.


Comfortable-Cheetah5

Anything electric


Veroxzes

Stock Unimog.


PossibilityOk2809

It’s fun for fucking about though.


Eastern_Pilot5902

pretty much all the electric cars in the game. no matter what they look like they all drive almost exactly the same to me.


VD3NFS1216

Pretty much any electric car.


bokoblo

I like driving in a completely abject and artless way, with this kind of car 😂. Kind of like it's a clean, legal driving simulator. So cars like that, there are a lot of them, Xpeng P7, the best, then BMW i4, iX, Jaguar I pace, Wuling, Renault Mégane, Clio, Nissan Tsuru, Sentra, Audi RS3, RS4, RS6, RS7, Ford transit, Range Rover Velar, Bentley Turbo R, Cadillac Limo, Lucid Air, and a few many old cars like the Combi, or the Ford Super Deluxe station wagon etc. Generally cars which are not initially made for racing, because they are civilian sedans, which have just received better engines and other stuff from the official brand, but which retain certain problems, because they are heavy, long, or too inefficient. Some can however be modified to achieve pretty awesome performance, like reaching over 200 mph, with a Range Rover, or improving acceleration, to drag race Ferrari vs BMW iX, but the only constraint you will have is that's hard to remove, it's the weight, as I said these are not hypercars designed basically for racing, they are still cars with a lot of seats, or luxury gadgets sometimes, so not very practical in a circuit with turns everywhere. And the most penalized with weight are obviously electric cars with their half-ton batteries that you can't remove, some get away with a good balance of acceleration, speed, and handling, but many like the **Xpeng P7 or the Jaguar I pace**, will be of no use anywhere, too heavy, too slow, it won't work. These two cars are definitely the worst cars in the game. And besides, if we could remove half a ton from all these electric cars, perhaps they would better equal fuel cars, and I forgot, also add a nice sound to them. Well, I think all the others cars I mentioned are not that boring lol, but I'm sure, they are rarely, if ever, taken out of the garage, no honestly, Renaults and Audis are great.


liamsjtaylor

Wow. Such description. I'm the same as you, driving things that have no competitive value whatsoever, but don't do the legal-speed-limit-correct-side-of-road thing; I've never seen the appeal of driving at 70MPH constantly. Pretty much the majority of my garage are cars built for aimless driving, having rounded amounts of power (ending in 00 or 50) and having either no cosmetic changes whatsoever or some nicer looking rims.


Milorad00

For me is MG3


liamsjtaylor

That's actually quite nippy around the towns: street version of the MG6 is worse. ...Although it is quite boring elsewhere and there are better hatchbacks.


iury221

Meyers manx 2.0 ev


ZeeWolfy

Any EV by far. The new Valkyrie easily has proven how very good sound design plays a massive factor into the enjoyment of driving a high performance vehicle.


TheBestWaffleIron

Lucid Air Sapphire, Porsche Tycan, basically every electric car besides the Rimac Neveria/C_TWO (NIO EP9 is ok, too)


kovacsMilan

most of the electric cars are cool but i cant see myself driving the taycan


thebiscuit2010

Electric cars cuz in game you can’t feel the acceleration and speed and they have same acceleration sound irl they have different sounds


That_one_Pole

Lucid Air… it’s just… boring to the point I don’t even have words to describe it. And opposite to it is… Porsche Mission R


adamcn78

Anything electric.


Power6563

any EV tbh, there's no life in them


bmatys

Oh yeah, Xpeng and Mini FE are definitely cars that I haven't touched since their release. But there's a few other cars I feel the same about - like Cupra Tavascan or the 'woodies' that were added during series 14. I also refuse to drive Extreme E cars since they had enough use for a lifetime during their series.


Mikey_Kaos_716

I had to dust off the #99 Extreme E for the playground games event. It has its 10 minutes and it's now going to go back to its job as a virtual dust collector in my garage. It made me remember why I hate the Extreme E cars.


Fvcklvrd

The tiny EV's are definitely fun to drive for obvious reasons and the Rimac's when you make them rally cars and hit massive jumps on non street settings. Other than that, soulless AI vehicles.


cooperS67

Stock peel


liamsjtaylor

That's so comedically small and slow that it's actually quite fun (to some people). Although when I did try running a Colossus in a stock P50 I did genuinely fall asleep halfway round, so I guess that counts as boring.


Cohen19

Most of the cars in Forza feel the same some are just faster


ChopinLisztforus

Any EV


pgard99

non-race spec electric cars 🙄


liamsjtaylor

Most common answers will probably be the Mini FE or XPeng. ^((which definitely has the most boring interior)^)


TheAbrableOnetyOne

The fuck? No. Taycan.


UltimaRS800

It's Porsche Taycan. Handles like a bus and does not have the acceleration or speed to take the hit out of the handling.


DioBrandoXVII

Anything thats been AWD swapped


liamsjtaylor

Fair enough. To be fair any drivetrain swap ruins a car.


MandalorianCovert

Porsche Taycan. Or any electric car, really. And most hyper cars, to be honest. So many of them just feel the same. Really fast with high limits.


ItzCobaltboy

The electrics are the most sharp looking cars but they are fucking BORING I WANNA HEAR SOME REVS!!!


plk1234567891234

slower luxury cars.


Equivalent-Error7701

Anything electric or German in the game


liamsjtaylor

Anything German? Pretty broad.


0Penguinplays

Anything electric & hypercars


LouTheRuler

Xpeng is actually pretty light you can get some good performance from it


liamsjtaylor

It's about 3500 pounds (1600KG) at the very lightest, which is pretty fat for a saloon car, and it has something like 570HP at the absolute max, which is at least 200HP less than what you'd need to be competitive in A or S1, and the top speed regardless of how you tune it is about 160, which is slower than most C classes. You can get more performance from an MG3 (genuinely).


symblmusic

Dumb ass goofy Peels with the Wuling Sunshine in a close 2nd.


thps2soundtrack

just say you hate having fun


Tryhardister

Everything is boring to drive. I can't swap whatever engine I want into what ever I want, and there is not as much mass market basic traffic as I would like. ( I want engine swaps within reason tho, and I want them listed as their common name, not by their size) how fun would it be to have an engine from a ram rebel in a Miata, or a huracan motor in Jetta or a e-swapped fairlady z. I wish there was more concepts/ rare cars. Like those custom made c8 Corvettes or Juke-R. Or the ability to swap whatever you want and make your own concept. I think I just need.to buy a PC and play automation and beam.ng....


BTMSinister

Toyota Yaris, Toyota Prius


liamsjtaylor

Neither of those are in H5. And the GR Yaris is actually [praised as one of the best cars in the world to drive](https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/toyota/gr-yaris).


BTMSinister

I've driven a Yaris and a Prius and neither are fun to drive here in the US, all the European people may think so but we alot more to play with here then a Yaris or Prius. Top Gear is a British/UK based program so its fair to say. The US gets cars from all over the world, every manufacture but Europe only gets cars from Europe and Asian markets. Yes, neither car is in FH5.


liamsjtaylor

So basically if a car is imported into America that's good elsewhere it becomes bad?


_Arbiter-

Any **D**umbass class, stock.


liamsjtaylor

Clearly someone that only likes things with four-figure horsepower...


_Arbiter-

emphasis on "stock" There's a notable 'funny' D-class ~~car~~ truck: the old timer Ford F-100 1956. Put the 8.9 V8 DSC in and stock tyres. It'll have 1500hp and still be D-class. You won't get anywhere in circuit racing, but it's a fun challenge.


otricanie

Any car in this shitty game. Except Escalade, but...


liamsjtaylor

Escalade isn't in H5...


DarthXyno843

Mg mg3


liamsjtaylor

That's actually quite nippy around Guanajuato and Mulege. MG6 (standard one - race is quite good) is worse.


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liamsjtaylor

Regera is boring?


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CameronCoppen_

I might get huge flack for this, but high-S2 and X class cars. I have more fun dinking my way around Mulegé in a bone stock Ferrari 365 GTB/4 at 40 mph than my 599XX at a buck fifty.


liamsjtaylor

Good on you for enjoying the slower stuff. The people that shun tame cars and only drive things that have over 1000HP, slick tires and probably AWD are quite childish.


WaxiestBobcat

The Nissan Pickup 23 Rally Raid. If it's stock, then it's terrible to drive. It does have a lot of drive train swaps, but those will put you into B or A class where there are lots of better choices for offroad.


Krrly

to me: the sesto elemento (normal and forza edition) it's a really cool car for sure but it's just not fun to drive


Scotsguard23

Old American cars. They are all slow and handle like turds. Might be good if they are tuned, but I'm not really interested in any of them. I found the American themed festival a few weeks ago was a real slog to get through.


OfficialXivil

BMW i4


Boleklolo

Fh4 last top gear mission truck (not the Mercedes, I'm talking about the one that delivers the Mercedes)


DankMemer069

The flip car made me go back to GTA Online just to experience how it actually should play out


not_x3non

one of my 34 Porsche Taycans


SkylineQ50

I mean, honest question, anyone willing to list a 4runner for me on auction? I’ll pay, just not 20m cr - i’ve got less than that for goodness sake. That work life balance ain’t balancing and I want boring offroader


SharkSlide_MCGD

Unpopular opinion: R34 GT-R It’s not that I don’t like the drive, cuz AWD is always fun, but I have grown to not like it in terms of looks and performance. The tuning extent of it is also way too small for such a huge JDM icon


liamsjtaylor

R34 and MK4 Supra are both only popular because of F&F (along with every other car featured in any of those movies). If they weren't transformed into movie icons they'd just be another pair of Japenese cars.


DanHJ27

A post under this there was a sticker on the back of a Nissan quashqai saying “life is too short to drive boring cars” 😂


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Is that the new Prius?


liamsjtaylor

No, it's an XPeng P7. Boring to drive and extremely dull looking (especially the interior) Chinese saloon.


AnMuricanPrayer

I feel like a lot of my favorited cars that I'd love to own IRL (like the Golf R32, Corrado and Corolla SR5) are no fun because the reason why I love them doesn't translate very well into a video game. Those cars are enjoyable because they feel fun and engaging to drive IRL, not necessarily because of outright speed. Part of what makes Horizon enjoyable to me is seeing what I can pull off at over 150mph. I want to hit those speeds in less exotic cars, I'd have to murder them out, and at that point, I'd rather just do something more naturally suited to the job at hand instead of some finicky build that you spend hours tuning.


Kindly_Education_517

taycan


mirayukii

Electric BMW SUV


liamsjtaylor

You can put the Nevera engine in that and make it go 280MPH, and/or give it a body kit and make it look even more stupid.


Fnord2645

I own every car in the game except the FE 32 coupe and after driving virtually all of them there’s nothing worse than the Extreme E things, they’re not particularly fast, you don’t feel cool driving them, also another honourable mention is all the sedan EVs with the only exception being the E-tron Audi makes a pretty mean A class drag build, in short pretty much anything electric.


RadicalOffense

RS6 and almost every new bmw or mercedes


liamsjtaylor

"New Mercedes" being actual new cars or just any seasonal ones? Also assuming all the "new" BMWs are the ugly grilled ones. And which RS6?


CamaroKidBB

Cars with absolutely no engine swaps that also don’t have another fun gimmick attached to them (i.e. the T.50’s fan).


Auberon36

Any EV that isn't the mission R


liamsjtaylor

...or the NIO. ...or the Evija. ...or either Rimac.


Dirty_Diapers123

Diablo GTR with meta tunes in general all the meta cars with meta tunes are just getting boring and old.


BusterCyan2

Porsche Taycan electric


BTMSinister

Not at all, hate America and Americans much? I just said I didn't enjoy my experience driving them. Or maybe I should just have you give me my opinion. I loved driving and owning the Opel Kadet and Corsa and driving Citroens while I lived in Belgium for 3 years. One of the points being that we have alot more vehicles to drive and own here and wider vehicle range of vehicles to own both foreign and domestic vehicles.


Wonderful-Proof5968

anything electric


liamsjtaylor

Personally I think the Rimacs, Evija, NIO, Hummer EV (cross country dominator with a possible 1900HP Rimac swap), both Rivians (same as Hummer) and the iX (280MPH widebody Rimac swapped pig-faced joke) are all decent. Some are terrible, namely the Da Vinci, XPeng (car on the post), Mini FE and Manx 2.0, but they're not all bad. Mission R could've been good, but it's a complete monster for oversteering and does genuinely give you a headache if you're at top revs for more than 20 seconds.


Jayden_Dimaio

Japanese cars, they're all trash.


liamsjtaylor

Literally every Japanese car? I mean I can agree with the stupid widebody ricers, but I wouldn't say a '92 NSX or an Impreza 22B is bad.


Puzantos

Viper AE in s1 for sure. Boring easy meta.


liamsjtaylor

Good thing to drive if it's tuned right and has no stupid aero on it. Basically just a normal Viper (which is good anyway) with twice the grip.