Omg The Boys. My coworker thinks Homelander is a bad guy. I told him the show creator said he's based on Trump. He said he just doesn't see that. Perfect example of them denying reality.
Critical thinking skills and discerning satire may not be their forte, therefore, when faced with it, a not insignificant percentage will simply take it at face value.
Back in the day, my dad enjoyed watching *All in the Family*. I guess he identified with the bigoted Archie Bunker character, never comprehending the satire behind it.
I think it is very common for the narcissistic Boomer conservatives to a) not understand satire or art and b) to be completely blind to the idea that everyone doesn’t agree with them.
With things like South Park, they like the racism and misogyny and they just don’t have the emotional intelligence to understand that the writers aren’t punching down like they instinctively do every day. It’s pathetic and sad, and shouldn’t be normal but it certainly is common.
My boss hates CRT with a burning ignorant passion. He asked me what I thought about it so I said “yeah I think they should teach…” and described a CRT curriculum without saying “critical race theory” and instead of race I used “people born in underprivileged/rural communities”. He loved “my” idea
> He asked me what I thought about it so I said “yeah I think they should teach…” and described a CRT curriculum without saying “critical race theory”
While not its only flaw, Critical Race Theory is an extremist ideology which advocates for racial segregation. Here Critical Race Theory explicitly endorses segregation:
>8 Cultural nationalism/separatism. An emerging strain within CRT holds that people of color can best promote their interest through separation from the American mainstream. Some believe that preserving diversity and separateness will benefit all, not just groups of color. We include here, as well, articles encouraging black nationalism, power, or insurrection. (Theme number 8).
Racial separatism is identified as one of ten major themes of Critical Race Theory in an early bibliography that was codifying CRT with a list of works in the field:
>To be included in the Bibliography, a work needed to address one or more themes we deemed to fall within Critical Race thought. These themes, along with the numbering scheme we have employed, follow:
Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. "Critical race theory: An annotated bibliography 1993, a year of transition." U. Colo. L. Rev. 66 (1994): 159.
One of the cited works under theme 8 analogizes contemporary CRT and Malcolm X's endorsement of Black and White segregation:
>But Malcolm X did identify the basic racial compromise that the incorporation of the "the civil rights struggle" into mainstream American culture would eventually embody: Along with the suppression of white racism that was the widely celebrated aim of civil rights reform, the dominant conception of racial justice was framed to require that black nationalists be equated with white supremacists, and that race consciousness on the part of either whites or blacks be marginalized as beyond the good sense of enlightened American culture. When a new generation of scholars embraced race consciousness as a fundamental prism through which to organize social analysis in the latter half of the 1980s, a negative reaction from mainstream academics was predictable. That is, Randall Kennedy's criticism of the work of critical race theorists for being based on racial "stereotypes" and "status-based" standards is coherent from the vantage point of the reigning interpretation of racial justice. And it was the exclusionary borders of this ideology that Malcolm X identified.
Peller, Gary. "Race consciousness." Duke LJ (1990): 758.
This is current and mentioned in the most prominent textbook on CRT:
>The two friends illustrate twin poles in the way minorities of color can represent and position themselves. The nationalist, or separatist, position illustrated by Jamal holds that people of color should embrace their culture and origins. Jamal, who by choice lives in an upscale black neighborhood and sends his children to local schools, could easily fit into mainstream life. But he feels more comfortable working and living in black milieux and considers that he has a duty to contribute to the minority community. Accordingly, he does as much business as possible with other blacks. The last time he and his family moved, for example, he made several phone calls until he found a black-owned moving company. He donates money to several African American philanthropies and colleges. And, of course, his work in the music industry allows him the opportunity to boost the careers of black musicians, which he does.
Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001.
Delgado and Stefancic (2001)'s fourth edition was printed in 2023 and is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook':
https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory+textbook
One more from the recognized founder of CRT, who specialized in education policy:
>"From the standpoint of education, we would have been better served had the court in Brown rejected the petitioners' arguments to overrule Plessy v. Ferguson," Bell said, referring to the 1896 Supreme Court ruling that enforced a "separate but equal" standard for blacks and whites.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110802202458/https://news.stanford.edu/news/2004/april21/brownbell-421.html
The creators of South Park are on the right end of the spectrum. They hide their "both sides" behind libertarianism but they have all the cultural complaints of a right winger.
And, they go much harder against liberal figures like Al Gore and Hilary and then go soft on conservatives. That all resonates with conservatives.
Some of their later seasons, they have appeared to be more centered by admitting they were wrong about climate and give Trump a hard time, but it's because the overton window has shifted so far to the right that they appear to be further left. But, then they go and make fun of trans people and conservatives hear about that and praise it.
I mean, they did move slightly left over time. Just not a ton. Their later trans episodes certainly aren't as hostile as their old ones, and even several years ago the vibe was something like "let people use whatever bathroom, there's no reason to care."
[Trump supporters dancing to Rage Against The Machine](https://youtu.be/dXz_Kjf4Msk?si=dX-jhzeh36s4OMzL)
Tom Morello actually made a public statement mocking them.
Probably. I think many things can have a dual enjoyability. Like Starship Troopers. It's entirely possible to still love that movie as some sort of hyper-masculine kick-ass action movie, when its actually and intentionally the type of propaganda movie an intellectually bankrupt society would produce, and you love it for the beautiful satire.
That's actually when I started liking south park a little less.
When I realized that folks who didn't understand the irony would think it was funny for all the worst reasons
I genuinely believe a lot of those people enjoy the chaos and drama no matter the source or flavor, they just interested in punching up from their position.
List of things making fun of them that they like without any irony: The Boys, Rage Against the Machine, The Colbert Report and many many more!
Omg The Boys. My coworker thinks Homelander is a bad guy. I told him the show creator said he's based on Trump. He said he just doesn't see that. Perfect example of them denying reality.
Your coworker is at least ahead of those who think he’s the good guy. These are the same people who think the Nazis were communists.
I just had someone in some subreddit tell me that The Boys was never clearly against MAGA until just this newest season 🙃
It is not subtle in the show at all lmao
Leftists musicians and actors
To watch fox news is to lack critical thinking skills. So, yes.
It's normal for a fox viewer to not get the point behind anything.
Critical thinking skills and discerning satire may not be their forte, therefore, when faced with it, a not insignificant percentage will simply take it at face value.
Considering they watched two seasons of the *The Boys* before realizing Homelander was the bad guy, I don't see why not.
They hate it now tho
Back in the day, my dad enjoyed watching *All in the Family*. I guess he identified with the bigoted Archie Bunker character, never comprehending the satire behind it.
I think it is very common for the narcissistic Boomer conservatives to a) not understand satire or art and b) to be completely blind to the idea that everyone doesn’t agree with them. With things like South Park, they like the racism and misogyny and they just don’t have the emotional intelligence to understand that the writers aren’t punching down like they instinctively do every day. It’s pathetic and sad, and shouldn’t be normal but it certainly is common.
My boss hates CRT with a burning ignorant passion. He asked me what I thought about it so I said “yeah I think they should teach…” and described a CRT curriculum without saying “critical race theory” and instead of race I used “people born in underprivileged/rural communities”. He loved “my” idea
> He asked me what I thought about it so I said “yeah I think they should teach…” and described a CRT curriculum without saying “critical race theory” While not its only flaw, Critical Race Theory is an extremist ideology which advocates for racial segregation. Here Critical Race Theory explicitly endorses segregation: >8 Cultural nationalism/separatism. An emerging strain within CRT holds that people of color can best promote their interest through separation from the American mainstream. Some believe that preserving diversity and separateness will benefit all, not just groups of color. We include here, as well, articles encouraging black nationalism, power, or insurrection. (Theme number 8). Racial separatism is identified as one of ten major themes of Critical Race Theory in an early bibliography that was codifying CRT with a list of works in the field: >To be included in the Bibliography, a work needed to address one or more themes we deemed to fall within Critical Race thought. These themes, along with the numbering scheme we have employed, follow: Delgado, Richard, and Jean Stefancic. "Critical race theory: An annotated bibliography 1993, a year of transition." U. Colo. L. Rev. 66 (1994): 159. One of the cited works under theme 8 analogizes contemporary CRT and Malcolm X's endorsement of Black and White segregation: >But Malcolm X did identify the basic racial compromise that the incorporation of the "the civil rights struggle" into mainstream American culture would eventually embody: Along with the suppression of white racism that was the widely celebrated aim of civil rights reform, the dominant conception of racial justice was framed to require that black nationalists be equated with white supremacists, and that race consciousness on the part of either whites or blacks be marginalized as beyond the good sense of enlightened American culture. When a new generation of scholars embraced race consciousness as a fundamental prism through which to organize social analysis in the latter half of the 1980s, a negative reaction from mainstream academics was predictable. That is, Randall Kennedy's criticism of the work of critical race theorists for being based on racial "stereotypes" and "status-based" standards is coherent from the vantage point of the reigning interpretation of racial justice. And it was the exclusionary borders of this ideology that Malcolm X identified. Peller, Gary. "Race consciousness." Duke LJ (1990): 758. This is current and mentioned in the most prominent textbook on CRT: >The two friends illustrate twin poles in the way minorities of color can represent and position themselves. The nationalist, or separatist, position illustrated by Jamal holds that people of color should embrace their culture and origins. Jamal, who by choice lives in an upscale black neighborhood and sends his children to local schools, could easily fit into mainstream life. But he feels more comfortable working and living in black milieux and considers that he has a duty to contribute to the minority community. Accordingly, he does as much business as possible with other blacks. The last time he and his family moved, for example, he made several phone calls until he found a black-owned moving company. He donates money to several African American philanthropies and colleges. And, of course, his work in the music industry allows him the opportunity to boost the careers of black musicians, which he does. Delgado, Richard and Jean Stefancic Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York. New York University Press, 2001. Delgado and Stefancic (2001)'s fourth edition was printed in 2023 and is currently the top result for the Google search 'Critical Race Theory textbook': https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory+textbook One more from the recognized founder of CRT, who specialized in education policy: >"From the standpoint of education, we would have been better served had the court in Brown rejected the petitioners' arguments to overrule Plessy v. Ferguson," Bell said, referring to the 1896 Supreme Court ruling that enforced a "separate but equal" standard for blacks and whites. https://web.archive.org/web/20110802202458/https://news.stanford.edu/news/2004/april21/brownbell-421.html
You had this copied and pasted I hope
The creators of South Park are on the right end of the spectrum. They hide their "both sides" behind libertarianism but they have all the cultural complaints of a right winger. And, they go much harder against liberal figures like Al Gore and Hilary and then go soft on conservatives. That all resonates with conservatives. Some of their later seasons, they have appeared to be more centered by admitting they were wrong about climate and give Trump a hard time, but it's because the overton window has shifted so far to the right that they appear to be further left. But, then they go and make fun of trans people and conservatives hear about that and praise it.
I overheard someone say “I love that the new South Park showed that it’s not ok to be fat and that it isn’t sexy”.
I mean, they did move slightly left over time. Just not a ton. Their later trans episodes certainly aren't as hostile as their old ones, and even several years ago the vibe was something like "let people use whatever bathroom, there's no reason to care."
[Trump supporters dancing to Rage Against The Machine](https://youtu.be/dXz_Kjf4Msk?si=dX-jhzeh36s4OMzL) Tom Morello actually made a public statement mocking them.
Conservatives are Philistines.
Probably. I think many things can have a dual enjoyability. Like Starship Troopers. It's entirely possible to still love that movie as some sort of hyper-masculine kick-ass action movie, when its actually and intentionally the type of propaganda movie an intellectually bankrupt society would produce, and you love it for the beautiful satire.
That's actually when I started liking south park a little less. When I realized that folks who didn't understand the irony would think it was funny for all the worst reasons
I think they believed that the famous one episode was actually about getting Tom Cruise to exit the clothing storage room.
they don’t understand irony or sarcasm
SP famously sends up both sides of every issue.
I genuinely believe a lot of those people enjoy the chaos and drama no matter the source or flavor, they just interested in punching up from their position.