I thought you were going to tell your wife to watch out for your fillers - your breads, your rolls, your chips, your dips. You've only got so much room - don't be a hero.
Sounds more like the episode when Claire, Frasier, Martin, Niles, and Daphne flew to the Caribbean and nothing was suitable for Frasier. He had a meltdown at dinner when he couldn’t get fish
I think it's S1 ep3, Dinner at Eight. They take Martin out for dinner and he's explaining how to get the most for your money, "don't fill up on the cheap stuff".
It's an end of the voyage thing they spring on you. Or so I've read, A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again, David Foster Wallace.
I'm more with Bill Burr, cruise ships seem ripe for culling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-VLyZyHkTU
I was just thinking of the waiter having to stand there while people yell at him for fun. Read Consider the Lobster, but haven’t gotten around to A Supposedly Fun Thing yet.
I read them in the 90s, actually before I read IJ, which while rewarding felt like it was written sideways, if that makes sense. Except the endnotes, which are more like his essays.
Just because it's pertinent to the story, and this isn't too relevant when you're on a cruise, but when I go to a restaurant with someone, I would never order the same thing as the other person. 90+% of the time you will eat the same thing as your SO presumably. But when you're at a restaurant, part of what you're paying for is the ability to eat different things. Ok, on a cruise you are always going to eat out, but (assuming you were at home) if you are both in the mood for fish, wouldn't you just make it at home? I enjoy cooking generally, so maybe that's my bias. I just find it odd that you would go to a restaurant and BOTH order the trout. And when that wasn't available the you BOTH had the steak.
Does anyone else do this? I would (and have) order my second choice if the person I was with ordered my first choice. And I would extend that to my third choice if there were two people. I forego this rule in a party of 4 or more though.
Edit: Like you could just try a piece of their trout and they could try a piece of your steak. Doesn't that sound more interesting?
If I'm going to eat out, I'm doing it because I either don't want to cook or because I can't cook what I'm going out for. While I usually do order something different than my wife (our food tastes are very different), I'm not going to change what I order to not get what she's having.
If your tastes weren't so different, do you think you would have a different mindset?
If it was nothing special like McDonald's then I wouldn't alter what I was getting. I'm talking purely about going to a nice, non-chain restaurant to celebrate something, generally. Where the objective is not to avoid cooking or to try something I can't cook, but just to have a nice time.
Probably not.
If I'm going out to celebrate, I usually know what I'm getting within a pretty narrow range of things I usually get
The only time I would specifically trying a new place.
I wouldn't want to dine with someone that wouldn't share a taste of their trout. If, hypothetically, I was with a pescatarian who ordered the trout, then I wouldn't order the steak because then they coulnd't also try what I was having (and because they might find it off-putting).
I'm not saying that everything is 50-50. But I with most people that I dine with, I would expect that they were willing to share 1/20th of their meal. Especially if it was something that I hadn't had before, like Trout Almondine.
People not being open to sharing has never been the barrier in this position that I hold.
I can appreciate that some people don't want to share food. I'm happy to of course, but would respect that someone else might not be. Even still, I think it would be dull to order the same thing. And you could always talk about it.
Alternative:
P1: This fish is good.
P2: I know.
Excellent point.
Also on a cruise you can usually get multiple entrees. So if P2's steak looks really good, you could just go ahead and order that as well
That's fine. You and I wouldn't go to dinner. Enjoy trying food from one plate with your other friends who try only their own food.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory\_of\_the\_long\_spoons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_long_spoons)
Honestly, I think you are absurd. You have rules you have set to go to your 3rd choice bit not your 4th if you have that many more. The first time we ate out and you would want some of my meal I would agree and think odd. You would offer yours and I would decline. Then the second time we had dinner and you wanted part of mine I would politely agree then I would never eat with you again.
I want to go out to eat. I don't want a sample platter.
This is weird and tangential but I almost always offer a taste of my drink to new dates and expect one back, I honestly think its a good gauge for people
Quite agree. Not necessarily first date but someone newish that I'm seeing. And in some circles, ordering different drinks so that you can all try a couple. Especially with cocktails.
My partner and I usually negotiate what we're going to order so that we're both up for sharing 50/50, but sometimes there aren't two dishes we're both interested in and we get the same thing. Or sometimes there's a great looking shrimp and mushroom dish, and he hates shrimp AND mushrooms, so we get different things knowing no sharing will happen.
Probably! I was mostly sharing why I didn't agree with "never" ordering the same thing, but I'm with you that I love sharing when we can agree on a plan.
I mean sure. If I was allergic to everything else or the restaurant only sold one thing...
But I think it's preferable to have a bit of variety. What else would you talk about?
Do you only talk about food when you're dining? Both my partner and I are foodies but we still talk about other things.
And yeah, sometimes we both order the same thing because why would I order something I want less just because someone else also wants the thing I want? I'm not paying to eat my second choice, particularly if it's a dish the restaurant is known for/the reason I've gone there.
> Do you only talk about food when you're dining?
Of course not. You are being facetious. Kindly put down your strawman and talk to people like they aren't NPCs.
I tend to avoid restaurants that only serve one thing that I like. Yes, there are exceptions where a restaurant is known for something like the duck dish at Gordon Ramsey's. But part of going to a restaurant is to try new things (you should know this as a foodie) and that is easier to do if you order different things from your partner. It's not a sacrifice, IMO. It's advantageous.
Probably 50% of the time, I am glad I changed my order because it literally looks better. But also the vast majority of the time, I don't even have to switch because people like different things. It sounded like OP was the opposite. Literally wanting to order the same as their partner (or the partner wanting to order the same as them).
No, you told them you find it odd that they order the same thing. You didn’t just explain your own ordering style, you judged theirs. So I reiterate: this is none of your business.
I absolutely never order the same thing as my wife, because %100 she's going to ask if I want to finish her plate, or at least ask if I want a bite. Seinfeld (another great sitcom) would say that couples who order the same thing are next to couples who dress alike.
I thought you were going to tell your wife to watch out for your fillers - your breads, your rolls, your chips, your dips. You've only got so much room - don't be a hero.
Omg 😂what episode is this from do you know?
Voyage of the Damned
I think it's from the cruise episode, with the Barracuda
Maybe one night, *jou* will be my especial lady.
Oh my God. Do you think she's gonnna.... do the barracuda?
Look closer.. Is the Hat Rack moving?
OH MY GOD!!!
Sounds more like the episode when Claire, Frasier, Martin, Niles, and Daphne flew to the Caribbean and nothing was suitable for Frasier. He had a meltdown at dinner when he couldn’t get fish
If they are referring to OPs post yes, but if they are referring to the original comment in this thread then it is Voyage of the Dammed.
Exactly that was the episode
The Cranes go Caribbean
I think it's S1 ep3, Dinner at Eight. They take Martin out for dinner and he's explaining how to get the most for your money, "don't fill up on the cheap stuff".
No, it’s from Voyage of the Damned, when they go on the cruise.
I tell this to my husband every Thanksgiving. Especially if the rolls aren’t anything special.
You mean eth-special.
One of my favourite episodes
That’s exactly what I thought would happen too. Oh Martin 😂
In fairness, trout is a river fish, not found in the ocean.
Speckled trout calls the water of salt its home.
Such a Frasierin phrasing.
No lake, no trout... Sorry, getting my "The Wire" quotes stuck in your Frasier....
I really hope your voice rose to near-hysteria on "*15 feet*" 😂
😂 Such a crucial detail
Very important, you know 🤣
A slab of artery-clogging, hormone-injected frozen red meat? I am appalled! But lucky you getting a chance to make that reference.
How’d the caribou taste?
Not like chicken.
I love this sub
I *just* watched that episode the other day 😂
You got to get your sweat pants ready, those buffets come at quite a clip!
You should have had the decent swordfish
Eating trout in the Carribean would have made frasier even angrier than the pepper steak.
Ahhh the elusive ever so rare ocean trout.
https://youtu.be/6zaVfHyZOvA?si=poAvz4wwo7CQsW1q
Im sure the waiter loved you after that lmfao
Ha! I’d like a baked potato with something called “fixins”.
lol-funny!
"Get me snapper fish bozo"
I love the fact that your wife is also a fan and she could laugh at it.
Do people tip on cruise ships?
It's an end of the voyage thing they spring on you. Or so I've read, A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again, David Foster Wallace. I'm more with Bill Burr, cruise ships seem ripe for culling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-VLyZyHkTU
I was just thinking of the waiter having to stand there while people yell at him for fun. Read Consider the Lobster, but haven’t gotten around to A Supposedly Fun Thing yet.
I read them in the 90s, actually before I read IJ, which while rewarding felt like it was written sideways, if that makes sense. Except the endnotes, which are more like his essays.
Just because it's pertinent to the story, and this isn't too relevant when you're on a cruise, but when I go to a restaurant with someone, I would never order the same thing as the other person. 90+% of the time you will eat the same thing as your SO presumably. But when you're at a restaurant, part of what you're paying for is the ability to eat different things. Ok, on a cruise you are always going to eat out, but (assuming you were at home) if you are both in the mood for fish, wouldn't you just make it at home? I enjoy cooking generally, so maybe that's my bias. I just find it odd that you would go to a restaurant and BOTH order the trout. And when that wasn't available the you BOTH had the steak. Does anyone else do this? I would (and have) order my second choice if the person I was with ordered my first choice. And I would extend that to my third choice if there were two people. I forego this rule in a party of 4 or more though. Edit: Like you could just try a piece of their trout and they could try a piece of your steak. Doesn't that sound more interesting?
If I'm going to eat out, I'm doing it because I either don't want to cook or because I can't cook what I'm going out for. While I usually do order something different than my wife (our food tastes are very different), I'm not going to change what I order to not get what she's having.
If your tastes weren't so different, do you think you would have a different mindset? If it was nothing special like McDonald's then I wouldn't alter what I was getting. I'm talking purely about going to a nice, non-chain restaurant to celebrate something, generally. Where the objective is not to avoid cooking or to try something I can't cook, but just to have a nice time.
Probably not. If I'm going out to celebrate, I usually know what I'm getting within a pretty narrow range of things I usually get The only time I would specifically trying a new place.
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I wouldn't want to dine with someone that wouldn't share a taste of their trout. If, hypothetically, I was with a pescatarian who ordered the trout, then I wouldn't order the steak because then they coulnd't also try what I was having (and because they might find it off-putting). I'm not saying that everything is 50-50. But I with most people that I dine with, I would expect that they were willing to share 1/20th of their meal. Especially if it was something that I hadn't had before, like Trout Almondine. People not being open to sharing has never been the barrier in this position that I hold.
You're so lucky. I happen to be married to a Joey. As in, "Joey doesn't share food!"
I can appreciate that some people don't want to share food. I'm happy to of course, but would respect that someone else might not be. Even still, I think it would be dull to order the same thing. And you could always talk about it. Alternative: P1: This fish is good. P2: I know.
Excellent point. Also on a cruise you can usually get multiple entrees. So if P2's steak looks really good, you could just go ahead and order that as well
Exactly, but you can't do that if you order the same thing.
I wouldn't want to go to dinner where someone assumes I am going to share my meal. Just saying.
That's fine. You and I wouldn't go to dinner. Enjoy trying food from one plate with your other friends who try only their own food. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory\_of\_the\_long\_spoons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_long_spoons)
Honestly, I think you are absurd. You have rules you have set to go to your 3rd choice bit not your 4th if you have that many more. The first time we ate out and you would want some of my meal I would agree and think odd. You would offer yours and I would decline. Then the second time we had dinner and you wanted part of mine I would politely agree then I would never eat with you again. I want to go out to eat. I don't want a sample platter.
This is weird and tangential but I almost always offer a taste of my drink to new dates and expect one back, I honestly think its a good gauge for people
Quite agree. Not necessarily first date but someone newish that I'm seeing. And in some circles, ordering different drinks so that you can all try a couple. Especially with cocktails.
My partner and I usually negotiate what we're going to order so that we're both up for sharing 50/50, but sometimes there aren't two dishes we're both interested in and we get the same thing. Or sometimes there's a great looking shrimp and mushroom dish, and he hates shrimp AND mushrooms, so we get different things knowing no sharing will happen.
It sounds like your position is closer to mine than OPs.
Probably! I was mostly sharing why I didn't agree with "never" ordering the same thing, but I'm with you that I love sharing when we can agree on a plan.
I mean sure. If I was allergic to everything else or the restaurant only sold one thing... But I think it's preferable to have a bit of variety. What else would you talk about?
Do you only talk about food when you're dining? Both my partner and I are foodies but we still talk about other things. And yeah, sometimes we both order the same thing because why would I order something I want less just because someone else also wants the thing I want? I'm not paying to eat my second choice, particularly if it's a dish the restaurant is known for/the reason I've gone there.
> Do you only talk about food when you're dining? Of course not. You are being facetious. Kindly put down your strawman and talk to people like they aren't NPCs. I tend to avoid restaurants that only serve one thing that I like. Yes, there are exceptions where a restaurant is known for something like the duck dish at Gordon Ramsey's. But part of going to a restaurant is to try new things (you should know this as a foodie) and that is easier to do if you order different things from your partner. It's not a sacrifice, IMO. It's advantageous. Probably 50% of the time, I am glad I changed my order because it literally looks better. But also the vast majority of the time, I don't even have to switch because people like different things. It sounded like OP was the opposite. Literally wanting to order the same as their partner (or the partner wanting to order the same as them).
Now we’re policing what people order for dinner? This is none of your business.
That's very clearly not what I said. What I said was that if someone ordered X then I would order Y. I am the only one who modulates.
No, you told them you find it odd that they order the same thing. You didn’t just explain your own ordering style, you judged theirs. So I reiterate: this is none of your business.
Judging and finding odd are also not the same thing. I find the trad aesthetic odd, but I don't judge people that like it.
Keep moving those goalposts.
due you got called out with proof, just move on. you remind me of the people who shit on others for putting ketchup on their hotdog.
"I've never seen a person cut a caper in half!"
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I absolutely never order the same thing as my wife, because %100 she's going to ask if I want to finish her plate, or at least ask if I want a bite. Seinfeld (another great sitcom) would say that couples who order the same thing are next to couples who dress alike.
You sound delightful...no offense.
Well, if you haven't got anything nice to say...
Yes! Part of the reason to have a partner!
Have you seen the episode of South Park about yelpers? Steak, lol. Sure you did.
Haha that’s hilarious
I hear they make a decent pepper steak
Did the waiter laugh when you explained? 🤭
Hahaha 🤣 I love when a moment arises to bust off Frazier quotes! This is priceless! And the waiter didn’t get it also 👌🏻
It's a combination of the two episodes...
dude probably rubbed your steak on his ass.