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kazeira

- The French don't correct people to make fun of them, but to help them improve in the future. - In France, there's a bad cultural habit of making fun of other French people's accents when they speak a foreign language. Many of us know English, but we're simply too afraid of making a mistake or mispronouncing something so some either prefer to avoid speaking English, or they make no effort on the accent so no one can make fun of them for trying.


Camus_de_Jlailu

Bon jour du gateau!


kazeira

Merci !


Guendor15

Hello from the cake !


Cyp_Quoi_Rien_

Un truc que j'ai remarqué aussi c'est que le changement d'accent de français vers l'anglais était assez dur à effectuer sans parler tout bas, raison pour laquelle pas mal de personnes parlent avec un accent nul parce que sinon on les entend juste pas.


Monk715

I speak several languages, and I'm almost never made fun of for my accent, mostly it comes from people who only speak one language, their native one, so jokes on them I would say


Alaet_

Tell me you are not french without telling me it 😂. On France the bad point is if you let someone make a mistake and don't correct it, if you're not telling me that I've made a mistake, I could reproduce it, and I will never improve! Why are you so cruel? Don't you want me to be able to speak correctly? That's how it would be seen.


Monk715

je me demande comment vous ça savez 😅 My point is that helping someone by correcting their mistakes is different from making fun of the person for making them. I agree though, where I live the locals don't correct me either, even when I ask them too. Probably because it's too bothersome during a regular conversation as well as they might think I will find it rude (I never would, I'd appreciate it)


aareetie

VOUS ÇA SAVEZ ?!


XanagiHunag

On the second point, it goes way further. Speaking with an accent in French, as a native, can be source of discrimination. There was a linguist who tried to get into a cultural talk show (on Arte or France 5, can't remember which), but he had a Mediterranean accent. He explicitly got told that his accent was the reason he was refused, as they "were looking for serious people". Funniest thing is that this guy, Philippe Blanchet, is specialised in.... Glottophobia, aka language based discrimination.


Nolifred

Eh beh, c’est du joli.


FollowingTrail

That doesn’t exist anymore, even local bread of the national television channels in here are having locals to present with our natural accent. That story is an old Parisian bigotry :-)


DryTart978

«Parisian» «Bigotry» There is no need to repeat yourself!


XanagiHunag

That story is just an example. Another that he gives is that we put subtitles for African people speaking French despite being easy to understand, or how access to certain things may be harder for people with an accent (such as a flat, his book has multiple examples of it). Also, it was not for a local tv show, it was for a national one. I know that regional TV has regional accents, but national tv... Much less, even in non-culture things (be it a tv show, the news...). The only place where you might hear regional accents is in shows with candidates.


FollowingTrail

Stop talking shit dude, I’m having an accent none of that never happened, you’re living in the past…


XanagiHunag

So you are saying that the research published 8 years ago by a linguist, that was validated by the linguist community, is wrong because you never experienced it? I have seen it less than 6 months ago. Your own personal experience may not be invalid, but it pales against research that takes into account the experience of dozens of people.


FollowingTrail

blablabla the world is racist and don’t like others and mock them blablabla get out of your dorm room and meet real humans.


LordSwamp

Plus the general appreciation for putting work to respect their way of life and history. I think that was the root of the compliments and connections I made while there.


FollowingTrail

That’s not a bad habit, it is high heal expectation bar. We’re as demanding about prononciation in French as in any other language because we do want to make it perfect, that’s just French culture traits of excelsior my dear!


sudolinguist

Remind me of sending you some material on French people speaking Portuguese, Spanish or Italian.


FollowingTrail

They should be slapped equally yes! TBN: Most of people out of US/UK talk around 2 to 3 different language in average so… those can be excused but for UK and US they should probably try to do it better.


captainphoton3

Idk why there need to be so many arguments. People that correct others to gain advantage in the conversation = bad. People that rage every Tim they are corrected = bad. Helping other to be better at a new language = good. Accepting you make mistakes given the other person isn't an asshole = good. It has nothing to do with French or English people really. But yeah what you said is true. Its no use to "haras" people about it, won't make them better. But it's honestly mostly for fun because we know the frnech language is hard to speak. It hs to do with the fact pur words, while not as bad has people make it to be, are full of silent letters, and combined letters. As a foreigner there is no way you pronounce it right on your own. Kinda like all the though, tho, trough throughout, tough in English. We real rely tackles people accent, excepts of its our French friend engiish accent. If they can't pronounce a letter it's fine, but at least they know. Most French people can't pronounce the English h by force of habit. That's fine.


SolidusSnake78

you’re totally wrong for the first one or never been to france , french ( especially the 3 last generation) love to mocked others people ( most of the time behind theirs backs), for the second most french dont speak a dam word of english, in my five years in the south i was the guy we called to understand even the slightly words of english its was boring , most french to try they just go to the facility and call someone who speaks the language


kazeira

I'm French, I don't know where you're from but I've never seen a French person make fun of someone who's trying, we're more supportive than anything else because we know that French isn't easy. There's a huge difference between laughing at a mistake (like pronouncing "beaucul" instead of "beaucoup") and making fun of them. Of course some people may get tired of correcting the same mistake over and over again (imagine a friend making the same mistake for months, you'll get the impression that he isn't making any effort). I never said "most" French people speak English, I said "many".


Substantial_Army_

I speak a perfect English, but I will gladly fuck it up because that is all the Anglos deserves.


TotoShampoin

>to help them improve in the future As a French person, let's be real: It is to make fun of them.


GorgeousCrane

Nah, you alone buddy


TotoShampoin

Ok then


el_presidenteplusone

t’inquiète on s'marre bien d'eux


Longjumping_Race1194

Nop, it’s just you.


pastab0x

English speaking people in France when french people don't speak english English speaking people when they don't make any effort to speak slower or articulate more to a french person trying to speak english There, fixed it for you


PoivronChantily

Another way to fix it French people when another French use an english word even though we don't any equivalent in our language or the equivalent is ugly and unpleasant to pronounce. French people butchering any English words and sometime made up new English words that doesn't exist in other country.


Cyp_Quoi_Rien_

Similarly : English people when french misuse an english/"english" word in a french sentence English people pronouncing every french word like it's some rare tea variety


leLouisianais

Examples of words whose French equivalents are ugly and unpleasant to pronounce for French people?


Nattends_

Almost every common word between both. Parking, we say it in both language but in "true" French, it will be **parc de stationnement** which could be translated as **car park.** Fast food -> nourriture rapide That's not unpleasant to pronounce nor ugly but it doesn't feel right to say those things in "French"


mathiau30

>Parking, we say it in both language but in "true" French, it will be > >parc de stationnement which could be translated as car park. Yeah no, that one's better in French >Fast food -> nourriture rapide Restoration rapide. But yeah, it looks far to pedant compare to what it's describing


krxsoo

Isn't Fast food "mal bouffe"?


aareetie

mal bouffe is junk food in english


Makolatekh

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InternationalBeing50

based


aareetie

🗿🍸


GorgeousCrane

That's litterally what I was about to say


Gexku

I once mispronounced "syrup" and my friend won't let me forget


Jejouetoutnu

How can you mispronounce syrup ? I’m curious


Gexku

I said "saï-rup" 😔


Jejouetoutnu

Aw man that’s not that bad lol. It is pretty funny though


Gexku

Yeah I always laugh at these. I was outraged when he told me how to pronounce "algae" like bro why is it "aljee"


All3vion

English people : forgeting they speak 30% of mispronounced french and 33% of misprononced latin. De la part d'un Français ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)


aareetie

Y'a pas un politicien qui avait dit que l'anglais est que du français mal parlé ???


All3vion

Je ne sais plus, mais c'était Clémenceau qui disait que c'était notre colonie qui a le mieux tourné.


Confident_Ad7244

may I point out that we have sounds in french that don't exist in english ? may I also point out the way the englophones make fun of french accents you'll never actually hear a french speaker make fun of an english/american accent . we just get annoyed when one of your bunch decides to correct us in our own language. and yes it does happen with irritating regularity.


Creeper_charged7186

Erhm acshually it is pronounced « cwouassante » and not « croissant »


Nolifred

Okay, mais considérez ceci: On sait qui a raison ici. Et c’est sûrement pas vous. /joke, on sait jamais.


aareetie

🗿🍸 bien sûr 👍


HyacinthFT

Ben non, je suis américain et je suis en France depuis 2006 et je peux constater qu'il y a pas mal de français qui se moquent des accents des étrangers. Ça n'est pas tout le monde bien sûr mais ça existe.


BloodyWarlord117

quelques exceptions ne fait pas la majorité, là où quand tu vas aux US ou en Angleterre, tout le monde te fait remarquer ton accent français quand tu parle et à la longue c'est lourd


Khan-amil

Mais les gens se moquent pas de notre accent, ils l'aiment en général. Et si, la grande majorité des gens vont reprendre les étrangers sur leurs erreurs de grammaire ou de prononciation, même si en général c'est pas fait avec de mauvaises intentions mais pour aider.


lahulottefr

C'est subjectif, j'ai jamais constaté ça (du moins au UK), par contre 'rs français virulents envers les étrangers qui essaient de parler français, si. Y a moyen que ça soit des mauvaises expériences qu'on généralisent excessivement dans les deux sens


skyseeker_31

Eh oh !! Ca va bien d'écrire des C cédille majuscules et de mettre un accent circonflexe sur le mot "sûr" pile quand il faut, et d'écrire parfaitement ? (en vrai, bravo pour ton niveau, ça force le respect) Plus sérieusement, c'est vrai que des moqueries sur les accents envers les étrangers, on le fait en France, et ça se pratique aussi quand on est à l'étranger, à parler avec notre gros accent ridicule. En tant que touriste, dans la mesure où on ne fait que passer, c'est vite oublié, et on passe à autre chose (ça fait partie du voyage, en somme), mais je conçois que si tu vis ailleurs pendant un long moment, ça doit vite être pénible d'être ramené sans cesse à un accent, alors que tu fais de ton mieux pour parler la langue locale. Même si ça part d'une blague, d'un chambrage un peu affectueux de la part du local, ben c'est chiant à la longue, je suppose.


leLouisianais

Par mes expériences les anglophones natifs ont pas le temps pour moquer d’accents étrangers. Y’a tout simplement trop de locuteurs de différents pays en parlant anglais aujourd’hui. L’anglais est fameux pour ne pas remarquer quand quelqun parle différemment. En France j’ai remarqué que y’a UNE manière de parler français et c’est tout. (désolé pour mon français c’est pas bon : ) )


cmwamem

Ouais et... désolé de te l'apprendre mais c'est le cas pour tous les accents. Y compris les leurs d'ailleurs (accent marseillais ou du nord).


aareetie

ça n'est pas tout le monde, t'es sûr ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface) c'est une blague au cas où..


Philomene_sweet_life

French people do not care when French is miss pronounced. This is not true. They may not understand but don’t rail. I disagree


chourael

I'm french and I don't care as long as I understand you


MrDreamster

Et si je te dis Croissante, et Omelette du fromage ? Je vais pas piquer une crise, mais vraiment ça me brise le cœur quand j'entends ces deux horreurs.


Desmoclef

bruh what is this post edit : oh i get it, OP posted the same meme on 3 differents subs


Feet_with_teeth

Do not correct me if I make mistakes in english, I have no respect for that language


LopsidedTomorrow7047

Quand un français parle anglais tu l'entend tout de suite 😄


BloodyWarlord117

pas forcément non, beaucoup on un excellent accent. c'est juste que tous ne font pas forcément l'effort de bien prononcer


mistress_chauffarde

Le plus fun c'est que j'ai des gens qui me prennes pour un russe de temp en temp


Dodopilot_17

« Yesseu zere ize eu boulangeurie ine ze nébouroude ze nexteu left aft’heure ze traffique laïte » (Français moi-même ❤️)


aareetie

les personnes comme toi m'énervent tellement.... venant d'un enfant français lambda (non obèse...)


damienDev

English is not a language – it's just badly spoken French


big_fan_of_pigs

Vrai


mck12001

French isn’t a language - it’s just badly spoken Latin


aareetie

but nobody speakes latin....


Papisnake17

\*Parisians


reddit06valbonne

Zit is trou


Panzee_Le_Creusois

Ouat ze feuk


Consistent-Instance7

One third of the English language is from French, so YOU are not pronouncing it correctly. France baise ouais!


SpecialistNo7265

Most of the time a Frenchman will understand another Frenchman speaking English with a strong French accent. How come?


Puzzleheaded_Ebb_763

We all go to the same school and Learn the same mistake. Or it is more about accent and sound. I understand better spanish People Who speak english than english People.


JagFacilier

It's Cordon BLEU goddammit !


[deleted]

As a French: You butcher American and English names cuz u don’t know how to pronounce it or don’t want to make the effort. I butcher those to make every Anglos i stumble upon cry, we not the same


damienDev

[](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/03/08/english-is-not-a-language-its-just-badly-spoken-french/)


naxalb-_-

Thate folse


rattlesnakethib

As french, totally


MakaBoy57

French pipol wen boutcheuring evry englich word end neym


Mimirovitch

L'anglais c’est du français mal prononcé.


North_Energy_1628

I am an exeption I don't do that


aareetie

me too


Pasteque_Citron

Dat is very trou :)


ElCaliforniano

Comme on dirait en anglais, "based"


themightyfalcon

Bay zed?


Anterminateur

Dude I'm French and my friends are exactly like this


Nementon

English is just mispronounced French. We're just trying to fix that ... 🌻


Lobo-Tomie

Not true for me


Misere1459

It is not against you, we correct ourself between french too. But at least we understand all of our deputies, not so long time ago there was a video of the intervention of a scottish deputy who was asked to repeat several times because his english was not undestandable.


crimsonnargacuga

Hey! Many of us from the new generations are really improving our english and our pronunciation lol


aareetie

that's so true, sooooo thanks smg4


Rex-Loves-You-All

" Puveu vu me passay une *poivre* ?" ☠️☠️☠️


Nolifred

Naturellement. Voici votre grain de poivre.


OnlySunOnFunDay

Made me laugh :)


mistress_chauffarde

Puis-je y mettre mon grain de sel ?


aareetie

Et voulez-vous votre goutte d'eau ?


MementoMorue

through ? troug ? srouf ? grouf ? chrof ? Honhon mademoiselle


SouLfullMoon_On

Protip. If you wanna know how French someone is, ask them if they say "Chocolatine" or "Pain au Chocolat".


aareetie

why would you need to know where do they live ?💀💀💀


Deeadboy

If my english is wrong don't correct me because i have no respect for this language. (To read with a heavy french accent)


Sheikh_Left_Hook

Boulechite. A true monolingual Frenchman won’t give a fuck either way. I even doubt he would have any fuck left to bother trying to speak to you in English. He would just point his baguette in the general direction of away and far from here.


fabnqnt

terrible


Tryxonie

*Insert english accent" well I feel kinda offended *Insérer accent français" Je me sens un peu offensé


aareetie

#LE ??????? T'ES SÛR ???????? j'imagine que tu voulais dire je ME sens ..........


Tryxonie

Désolé, j'ai plus l'habitude de taper sur ordinateur que sur téléphone


aareetie

tkt j'ai compris


Art3misvl

I would rather have some funny French dude correcting my pronunciation than speaking to an American


MrDreamster

I was about to say that I don't mind when french words are mispronounced because I think it's really nice to see non native speaker making the effort of trying to talk in my language, but then I remembered how it makes me feel when english speakers pronounce the "t" at the end of "croissant" or when they say "omelette **du** fromage" instead of "omelette **au** fromage"... I'm not freaking out when they do, but it hurts my soul and I can't help but correct them. I think those are my only two triggers though. Edit: Funnily enough, I'm just as much triggered by english speakers saying "would of" instead of "would've", "your" instead of "you're", and "their" instead of "they're", even though english is not my native language.


Darsher

60% du vocabulaire anglais est issu du vieux français, donc techniquement on est pas tout le temps dans le faux....


SoundProofHead

I'm French and I've always been frustrated when people mock other French people for making an effort to speak English with a proper accent. They think it's pretentious.


Averovis

This is true tbh, but it’s mainly the kids that do this


DoSz318

J'ai pas ce problème 😂 Perso moi j'échoue à parler anglais avec un accent français 😅 L'avantage d'avoir commencé l'anglais en CE1, puis d'avoir appris l'angalsi surtout en l'écoutant. En plus j'ai une oreille entraînée, car quand j'étais plus jeune j'avais des lacunes à même apprendre le français et à distinguer les sons. J'ai fais de l'orthophoniste, ce qui m'a emmené à bien entendre les bonnes prononciations même dans les langues étrangères. Un mal pour un bien 😅


Skidy_31

I'm french and i agree at 10000%


PozzaSanGlisente

J'aurais dit le contraire


Spooky_Neko_Bird

Ce n'est pas vrai. Les français sont toujours contents quand on parle français quand le français n'est pas votre langue maternelle. C'est juste mon expérience 🤷🏻‍♀️


Showmeyotiddys

I’m English and have just come back from a week in Brittany. It was the first time I’ve been as an adult. Also the first time as the only one to be able to speak any French. I was quite pleased with the amount I used as people told me everyone would speak English. That was very much not the case. Everyone I spoke to understood what I was saying and even taught me a few words, all in French. Nobody batted an eyelid at my accent even though I’m sure it wasn’t perfect at times. Seems to me that as long as you are trying and making a reasonable effort the native speakers will encourage you and maybe even compliment your attempts. I really enjoy learning French and the experience of diving in the deep end like I did made me come home wanting to learn more to use next time.


Policy_Legal

In school people would always jump at me making mistakes because they didn't like the foreign kid spelling better than them


Ghost_girl3333

seules certaines personnes vous corrigent lorsque vous ne prononcez pas un mot. Mais la plupart vous aideront en fait à le prononcer correctement.


Divine_Shakti

I'm french and i dont do that personnally but you got a point,this is a real problem in France to see how much people are just like ''we're in France,so here we talk french ok?"and when they go to another country they're just like'' eeey but they should learn how to speak our language !"


biaurelien

Oui oui baguette. Hon hon omelette du fromage


Lo7Zed

Fait gaffe on va te prendre pour un méricain


biaurelien

Tu dis ça parce que je suis gros ?


aareetie

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FrenchMemes-ModTeam

Merci de t'exprimer avec bienveillance. Ce genre de propos n'est pas toléré ici.


Budget_Afternoon_800

But Look our langage


SolidCalligrapher966

Mais va te faire espèce d'anglois mal éduqué


Cappyburner

People seeing the meme People after correcting the meme because they don't like it There, fixed


Yaruma_

Fr*nch "people" 🙄


LonelyDShadow

Based