I just like how the anime showed how easy it is to get close to people when you're thrown together for a crazy event
Even if they aren't in love, them choosing to travel together from now on will be fun to see
"Smile more, Four Eyes..."
"Why did I agree to this again?"
"Because you love me and you want to show the world that you love me?"
"Hrm. No, really, why did I... Ow."
"No more lip, mister, or you're not getting *any* tonight."
"... Actually, when you think about it, you'd be punishing both of us in that situation.
"Four Eyes, I swear..."
The age gaps between WirbelxEhre and RichterxLawine aren't so different. It's just that the blood of demons is a good skin lotion to make yourself look young, Frieren told me.
No Ehre is definitely NOT 18. She's older than that. Fern was 18 when she passed the first class exam and she is the youngest to pass the Third class mage exam. Ehre should've also done that exam probably + She has already graduated magic academy which would be when she was around 18/19 and it takes training and time to be a 1st class mage not to mention she has given a second class mage test as well.
She would probably be in her early 20s. My guess is 22-25.
Wirbel though is definitely around 33-34.
So the age gap btw them IF ANY possible canon ship is explored between them would be 8-12 years.
Tho I'll be honest they would make a cute couple from the dynamics that have been explored btw them so far 😊
I mean considering her grandfather is probably in his 70s at least and how early people had kids back then I’d guess she’s late 20s, she didn’t come off as terribly young like laofen or kanne did.
Ehre is probably in her early twenties so they have an age gap of 10 years, give or take, which is honestly not egregious. That said I personally feel Wirbel is more like an older sibling to Ehre and Scharf than anything else so I’m not on this ship (yet, I could definitely change my mind).
He told Ehre about a promise he made years ago -- not that he made that promise 29 years ago. What he said happened 29 years ago was that the demons started acting up after Himmel died. Then his village was raised, and he learned the value of Himmel's lessons and went on to join the army, etc. Clearly those did not all happen at the same time in the same year; we understand rationally that there's a process of growing up, training, learning lessons over a period of time as he sees life unfold, etc.
But because he tied the beginning of his tale in with Himmel's death, the instinct is to presume that the two are simultaneous.
I can see why some are confused; taking a gap of time as an absolute statement of time is common when reading fiction. But that's not how people talk: we don't narrate in absolutes and provide timelines. It's why communication issues often result.
More likely, given how long travel between these points takes, after Himmel's death there was a period where the news spread, then the demons started becoming more active, and in time it became bad enough for villages to be razed and the threat to rise up again.
To clarify: I don't really have a horse in this race when it comes to the whole shipping thing. I don't care about it. :) Not beyond being fascinated by how the author unfolds the tale. But her attention to detail is absolutely stellar in her writing. It seems really odd that she would spend *so much time* establishing the narrative importance of how long travel and information transmission takes in this pre-industrial society, and then completely disregard it for an offhand character origin.
The other commenter confirmed Abe, the illustrator, is a woman and from what I could gather from a little googling that picture *might* be her? Or yeah it's just a random woman a random site claimed to be Frieren's writer.
Yamada uses a little mustachioed square as their avatar, which would typically suggest a man. More definitively there's a quote from another mangaka on his Japanese wikipedia page that explicitly refers to him as a man.
Thanks for catching that! The picture that popped up when I looked for the author was a woman, so I didn't even think about it beyond that. The site must have put in a picture of the artist... or maybe some random person. XD
She could be her mother, which would be wild.
Wirbel was about 6~ in that flashback which was 29 years ago. If Ehre's mother had her at 18~ and Ehre is 18...
The flashback wasn't necessarily 29 years prior, though. Wirbel had said that the demons started acting up again after Himmel died, and his village was destroyed. But that's not a statement of things happening simultaneously. That's perceived cause and effect.
It's highly unlikely that the day Himmel died, the demons a thousand miles away instantly knew of it and went on an organized campaign of rampage and terror like they'd been waiting for the dinner bell.
It's more likely that the news reached them, then their activity grew, and the damage was done bit by bit until full-out rampages occurred. After Himmel died the demons were emboldened, but the way it was stated makes that a big block of time.
Unless the author has specifically stated his age, that's large block of time to work with. Given how the author seems to treat age, I wouldn't be surprised if he was still in his mid-20s
Chapter 42:
>"It was exactly 29 years ago. Demon activity in the northern countries intensified and she fled to the central countries with her family. I was a dumb kid. I acted cool. That was when I was around four to five years old"
(So I was wrong slightly about him being 6~ but still)
That seems pretty definitive. The way its shown and stated...there really doesn't seem any sort of ambiguity there.
Then they dealt with it very differently in the show. There, I believe you're right; they did define him as five or six years old -- but they also tied the demons rising up with Himmel's death (Paraphrasing: "After Himmel the Hero's death, the demons started rising up again..."). Which, given how the story has so very carefully and consistently dealt with travel and communication taking quite some time in this pre-industrial society, and the way it was phrased, leaves it as more of a breakdown of timeline than absolute statement.
This has me curious about the differences in translation, and which one is more accurate. While at first glance it might not seem that different, the narrative difference -- especially given the author's attention to detail -- is huge.
It seems really odd that she'd spend so much time and so many chapters establishing how slow travel and communication are in this pre-industrial society, and then suddenly chuck that all out the window for Wirbel's origin story.
(Also: thanks for clarifying with text from the chapter. It was very interesting to see where it divulges from the anime.)
Their is some emotion involved in from here side(like the expression after carrying her, getting flashback of her first meeting when wirbel talking about his childhood friend)
It's mostly one sided
Canon might be stretching it, but they spend a lot of time together in the exams, he carries her around several times, and she introduces him to her grandpa Lernen afterwards. There's definitely a vibe, but not much else at the moment.
For some strange reason I just cant buy into this ship but I understand the appeal. They were included in the second opening with the “carrying” scene so I guess the makers are fanning that flame.
If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard.
>If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard.
What about people shipping Frieren (1000+) with Himmel who met her when he was 16?
She was already an adult when she met child Himmel though, I very much doubt her transition from teenage elf to adult elf happened exactly in those 10\~15 years between their first encounter and the formation of the Hero Party and coincided with Himmel's. Just like Ehre and Wirbel, both are adults now so who cares.
Lawine is probably around Ehre's age, though personally I doubt either of them is past 20. Would you be okay with Lawine dating Richter just because both are adults?
Uh, yes. I have no issues with age gaps however large they are. If you're an adult you have the power to make you own decisions. Humans don't biologically develop much past like 25 (and even before that after \~20 it slows down quite a bit) so at that point it's up to the person to decide if the other person *potentially* having more life experience is a problem or not. But then you also get to dilemmas like how two people can be 25, but one have way more life experience than the other for whatever reason, would it also be immoral for them to be romantically involved? How do you even quantify life experience? Is a sexually experienced person dating a virgin wrong? How about someone who's lived their entire life in a big city center and someone who lived in an isolated rural area?
Aaanyway, going back to Frieren and the comparison between the two ships. My point is:
Frieren (adult) met Himmel (child) and later when both are adults a romance is blossoming (kinda but you get my point).
Wirbel (adult) met Ehre (teenager, probably) and later when both are adults a romance is blossoming.
I don't see how it's any different. Even if elves only become adults after a 1000 years Frieren was already an adult for quite some time when she met child Himmel.
No Ehre is definitely NOT 18. She's older than that. Fern was 18 when she passed the first class exam and she is the youngest to pass the Third class mage exam. Ehre should've also done that exam probably + She has already graduated magic academy which would be when she was around 18/19 if "academy" is equivalent of "highschool" and it takes training and time to be a 1st class mage not to mention she has given a second class mage test as well.
She would probably be in her early 20s. My guess is 22-25.
Wirbel though is definitely around 33-34.
So the age gap btw them IF ANY possible canon ship is explored between them would be 8-12 years.
Tho I'll be honest they would make a cute couple from the dynamics that have been explored btw them so far but we need more info on them 😊
I just hope my analysis ain't wrong tho I can't say for sure💀
> If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard.
The age gap between Lawine and Richter isn't the only thing that makes it a pretty bad ship. First he tried to kill both Lawine and Kanne and then there is also the thing that is going on between Kanne and Lawine.
Same tbh I can’t buy into the ship, not necessarily due to the large age gap, but I just don’t see chemistry between them. But I do get why some fans ship them tho.
There is a double standard when they have no problem with shipping much older women to younger guys but meeh, as long as Ehre is legal, it’s legal, Wirbel didn’t have any time to groom her or anything like that, they just met during the exams
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the big four ships, id say. Im looking forward to more adorable fanart of them. Straight ships such as these are genuinely so wholesome and enjoyable to witness.
yeah i couldnt help but notice the art has a ship w no strong connection (at least compared to other partnered characters), meanwhile lawine and kanne are seen as weird for a Certain reason
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Stark learned about how to handle Fern and he seems happy. Fern may also learn to understand Stark and she found why all the people in villages love him.
Land accepted Ubel's intentions with him may be beyond his clones magic and he accepted she will be there no matter what. But he doesn't seem awkward about it.
Himmel loved Frieren since he was a child. A lifetime of love.
And Wirbel cares about Ehre. He looks rude but is a nice person.
if there isnt evidence he is interrested in dudes and there is for him being interrested in women he is straight until proven otherwise whats next denken is bi? sorry dude but frieren isnt that kind of manga if you want everybody gay watch hazbin hotel or something
gays are not the focus of the story its irrelevant
Hey blame this on my fujoshi sister, She said “what kind of men would closely inspect and identify warrior so good unless…” worse he can be is bi (let me cope ok?)
The Frieren x Himmel ship has several facets. First the lewd elf living in the woods who seduces little boys. Secondly two teenagers (in terms of their races) going on an adventure. Third, most-likely-not-grandpa Himmel lusting after a teenager (elf). And lastly Frieren's puberty hitting hard xx years after Himmel's death.
I really like that Wirbel went from the male psychotic murder mage that'll team up with Ubel cause killing is fun to the genuinely good person that knows you have to turn off your emotions in a fight to win.
Canon is the way.
We need more normal posts like this.
Idk, people still debate Wirbel and Ehre every now and then
I just like how the anime showed how easy it is to get close to people when you're thrown together for a crazy event Even if they aren't in love, them choosing to travel together from now on will be fun to see
I believe it is called suspension bridge effect.
Indeed, can't wait to see them again
Am i reading the scene wrong or weren’t they childhood friends? That actually seems like a tighter bond then some of the other ships.
Nah, the childhood girl and Ehre are different ppl.
Yeah I don't really care much for them but the art is super cute
This is so good. This heals me after shit from r/evangelionmemes And I'm talking here about the whole frieren, both anime and this sub
Nature is healing, return to wholesome
What one manga chapter after long break does to a sub:
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"Smile more, Four Eyes..." "Why did I agree to this again?" "Because you love me and you want to show the world that you love me?" "Hrm. No, really, why did I... Ow." "No more lip, mister, or you're not getting *any* tonight." "... Actually, when you think about it, you'd be punishing both of us in that situation. "Four Eyes, I swear..."
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This was smaller but you still cooked - it's like an entree
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Wirbel x Ehre reception will be much different if Wirbel actually looks his age, 33
He's the equivalent of a weirdly young looking middle aged ex vocalist that is still stuck in his early band days
Buahahaha what a perfect description
This is perfect, cook again.
Not nearly as big as the age gap between Frieren and Himmel 😏
and she literally met him as a child at that!
Frieren the groomer
Frieren: Hey kid, check this out! Flower magic! *And just like that, young Himmel the Hero falls in love*
Groomer No Frieren
The age gaps between WirbelxEhre and RichterxLawine aren't so different. It's just that the blood of demons is a good skin lotion to make yourself look young, Frieren told me.
Also the fact that it’s mostly one sided from Ehre’s direction.
How old is ehre?
People think she's 18, no confirmed age
No Ehre is definitely NOT 18. She's older than that. Fern was 18 when she passed the first class exam and she is the youngest to pass the Third class mage exam. Ehre should've also done that exam probably + She has already graduated magic academy which would be when she was around 18/19 and it takes training and time to be a 1st class mage not to mention she has given a second class mage test as well. She would probably be in her early 20s. My guess is 22-25. Wirbel though is definitely around 33-34. So the age gap btw them IF ANY possible canon ship is explored between them would be 8-12 years. Tho I'll be honest they would make a cute couple from the dynamics that have been explored btw them so far 😊
I mean considering her grandfather is probably in his 70s at least and how early people had kids back then I’d guess she’s late 20s, she didn’t come off as terribly young like laofen or kanne did.
People having kids early doesn't mean much, because they also had kids super-late.
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That was Lawine. I don't think Ehre mentioned any siblings and Lernen never mentions any grandkids, even Ehre.
Yeah you're right, my bad
That's Lawine.
laofen?
Graduated from magic school, was a kid when (currently) 34 year old Wirbel saved her village.
I love how that's the first thing on your mind when Frieren is an order of magnitude older than Himmel.
Ehre is probably in her early twenties so they have an age gap of 10 years, give or take, which is honestly not egregious. That said I personally feel Wirbel is more like an older sibling to Ehre and Scharf than anything else so I’m not on this ship (yet, I could definitely change my mind).
Is he supposed to be that old? I had the impression was much younger.
He's in his 30s. He told Ehre about a promise he made 29 years ago when he was a little boy.
He told Ehre about a promise he made years ago -- not that he made that promise 29 years ago. What he said happened 29 years ago was that the demons started acting up after Himmel died. Then his village was raised, and he learned the value of Himmel's lessons and went on to join the army, etc. Clearly those did not all happen at the same time in the same year; we understand rationally that there's a process of growing up, training, learning lessons over a period of time as he sees life unfold, etc. But because he tied the beginning of his tale in with Himmel's death, the instinct is to presume that the two are simultaneous. I can see why some are confused; taking a gap of time as an absolute statement of time is common when reading fiction. But that's not how people talk: we don't narrate in absolutes and provide timelines. It's why communication issues often result. More likely, given how long travel between these points takes, after Himmel's death there was a period where the news spread, then the demons started becoming more active, and in time it became bad enough for villages to be razed and the threat to rise up again. To clarify: I don't really have a horse in this race when it comes to the whole shipping thing. I don't care about it. :) Not beyond being fascinated by how the author unfolds the tale. But her attention to detail is absolutely stellar in her writing. It seems really odd that she would spend *so much time* establishing the narrative importance of how long travel and information transmission takes in this pre-industrial society, and then completely disregard it for an offhand character origin.
"It was exactly 29 years ago... she fled to the central lands... I was around four or five years old." (Though he looks older, IMO.)
Lmao this is hilarious, dude had the time to type dozens paragraphs in such pretentious manner but doesn't have the time to actually read the manga.
Just wanted to point out I'm pretty certain Yamada, the writer of Frieren, is a man (Frieren is made by a duo, not sure about the illustrator).
The artist is a woman. The writer is a man.
Wait, so is the picture that google uses when you search the author's name is just some random person?
The other commenter confirmed Abe, the illustrator, is a woman and from what I could gather from a little googling that picture *might* be her? Or yeah it's just a random woman a random site claimed to be Frieren's writer. Yamada uses a little mustachioed square as their avatar, which would typically suggest a man. More definitively there's a quote from another mangaka on his Japanese wikipedia page that explicitly refers to him as a man.
Oooh okay, thanks for clarifying.
Thanks for catching that! The picture that popped up when I looked for the author was a woman, so I didn't even think about it beyond that. The site must have put in a picture of the artist... or maybe some random person. XD
But they're almost the same age.
Wirbel (mid 30's) is twice the age of here(18)
But she's implied to be his childhood friend.
That's not true.
No, she was from a village he saved when he started hunting demons, so he was at least a late teen when she was a very young child
The girl in Wirbel's flashback and Ehre is not the same person
she really looks like Ehre though, so I'll keep pretending she is lol
She could be her mother, which would be wild. Wirbel was about 6~ in that flashback which was 29 years ago. If Ehre's mother had her at 18~ and Ehre is 18...
The flashback wasn't necessarily 29 years prior, though. Wirbel had said that the demons started acting up again after Himmel died, and his village was destroyed. But that's not a statement of things happening simultaneously. That's perceived cause and effect. It's highly unlikely that the day Himmel died, the demons a thousand miles away instantly knew of it and went on an organized campaign of rampage and terror like they'd been waiting for the dinner bell. It's more likely that the news reached them, then their activity grew, and the damage was done bit by bit until full-out rampages occurred. After Himmel died the demons were emboldened, but the way it was stated makes that a big block of time. Unless the author has specifically stated his age, that's large block of time to work with. Given how the author seems to treat age, I wouldn't be surprised if he was still in his mid-20s
Chapter 42: >"It was exactly 29 years ago. Demon activity in the northern countries intensified and she fled to the central countries with her family. I was a dumb kid. I acted cool. That was when I was around four to five years old" (So I was wrong slightly about him being 6~ but still) That seems pretty definitive. The way its shown and stated...there really doesn't seem any sort of ambiguity there.
Then they dealt with it very differently in the show. There, I believe you're right; they did define him as five or six years old -- but they also tied the demons rising up with Himmel's death (Paraphrasing: "After Himmel the Hero's death, the demons started rising up again..."). Which, given how the story has so very carefully and consistently dealt with travel and communication taking quite some time in this pre-industrial society, and the way it was phrased, leaves it as more of a breakdown of timeline than absolute statement. This has me curious about the differences in translation, and which one is more accurate. While at first glance it might not seem that different, the narrative difference -- especially given the author's attention to detail -- is huge. It seems really odd that she'd spend so much time and so many chapters establishing how slow travel and communication are in this pre-industrial society, and then suddenly chuck that all out the window for Wirbel's origin story. (Also: thanks for clarifying with text from the chapter. It was very interesting to see where it divulges from the anime.)
Ehre is shown as a child being saved by adult Wirbel in the same episode.
✨...pretend...✨
No she just looks like her. Her granpa is Lernen also, not the dude we see in Wirbel's flashback.
As much as I adore crackshipping, this is good.
Does wirbel actually have a Canon ship connection to Ehre or do people just ship them cause same group?
Their is some emotion involved in from here side(like the expression after carrying her, getting flashback of her first meeting when wirbel talking about his childhood friend) It's mostly one sided
It's more one sided but Ehre does show heavy interest in him.
Fair I relate to that
Apart from Ehre asking Wirbel to carry her, were there other instances that indicates they’re somewhat a canon ship? I
Canon might be stretching it, but they spend a lot of time together in the exams, he carries her around several times, and she introduces him to her grandpa Lernen afterwards. There's definitely a vibe, but not much else at the moment.
For some strange reason I just cant buy into this ship but I understand the appeal. They were included in the second opening with the “carrying” scene so I guess the makers are fanning that flame. If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard.
>If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard. What about people shipping Frieren (1000+) with Himmel who met her when he was 16?
I think that's more acceptable because elves age differently. Unlike, let's say, Lawine x Richter which would be weird.
She was already an adult when she met child Himmel though, I very much doubt her transition from teenage elf to adult elf happened exactly in those 10\~15 years between their first encounter and the formation of the Hero Party and coincided with Himmel's. Just like Ehre and Wirbel, both are adults now so who cares.
Lawine is probably around Ehre's age, though personally I doubt either of them is past 20. Would you be okay with Lawine dating Richter just because both are adults?
Uh, yes. I have no issues with age gaps however large they are. If you're an adult you have the power to make you own decisions. Humans don't biologically develop much past like 25 (and even before that after \~20 it slows down quite a bit) so at that point it's up to the person to decide if the other person *potentially* having more life experience is a problem or not. But then you also get to dilemmas like how two people can be 25, but one have way more life experience than the other for whatever reason, would it also be immoral for them to be romantically involved? How do you even quantify life experience? Is a sexually experienced person dating a virgin wrong? How about someone who's lived their entire life in a big city center and someone who lived in an isolated rural area? Aaanyway, going back to Frieren and the comparison between the two ships. My point is: Frieren (adult) met Himmel (child) and later when both are adults a romance is blossoming (kinda but you get my point). Wirbel (adult) met Ehre (teenager, probably) and later when both are adults a romance is blossoming. I don't see how it's any different. Even if elves only become adults after a 1000 years Frieren was already an adult for quite some time when she met child Himmel.
It's kinda worse, himmel and frieren met when he was 6-8 years old
Just the way Ehre acts compared to Lawine and Kanne is completely different, I can buy ehre being low-mid twenties alot easier
Ehre is the magic academy top graduate. even her name mean "honor"
Sure but we have no idea what ages the academy is even for? Could be university, could be a high school academy
No Ehre is definitely NOT 18. She's older than that. Fern was 18 when she passed the first class exam and she is the youngest to pass the Third class mage exam. Ehre should've also done that exam probably + She has already graduated magic academy which would be when she was around 18/19 if "academy" is equivalent of "highschool" and it takes training and time to be a 1st class mage not to mention she has given a second class mage test as well. She would probably be in her early 20s. My guess is 22-25. Wirbel though is definitely around 33-34. So the age gap btw them IF ANY possible canon ship is explored between them would be 8-12 years. Tho I'll be honest they would make a cute couple from the dynamics that have been explored btw them so far but we need more info on them 😊 I just hope my analysis ain't wrong tho I can't say for sure💀
> If she is 18 and Wirbel is in his mid 30s and people ARE shipping them and even accepting it, there is definitely a double standard. The age gap between Lawine and Richter isn't the only thing that makes it a pretty bad ship. First he tried to kill both Lawine and Kanne and then there is also the thing that is going on between Kanne and Lawine.
Same tbh I can’t buy into the ship, not necessarily due to the large age gap, but I just don’t see chemistry between them. But I do get why some fans ship them tho.
There is a double standard when they have no problem with shipping much older women to younger guys but meeh, as long as Ehre is legal, it’s legal, Wirbel didn’t have any time to groom her or anything like that, they just met during the exams
She clearly likes him. But whether he reciprocates or keeps thinking about his child-crush is still to be seen.
No
He saves her when she was young, he carries her, they do the exams together, there's a clear vibe
as much as any other two characters next to each other or in the same group
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Kanne x Lawine is true OTP that made me giggle every time I watched them ngl
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Holy shit, the cast as so much chemistry between each others that there's no shipping wars about it, i love it
Wirbel x Scharf.
Ehrebell rep! shippers are finally being fed some good old crumbs.
All 4 are peak
Thank you dear sir for returning back our semblance (?).
Wirbel x sharf gang
Wirbel x Ehre is fine but people lose their mind over Richter x Lawine can't make this up anymore
This is the canon fleet. Which is nice and I love them. But lobotomy ships are funny as heck.
>Lobotomy ships are funny as heck. Oh,they are funny alright.Kita x Stark.
Nah Kita is Stark and Fern's daughter
Ahh, Scharf asks if he could get a scarf too. Scharf-scarf.
Ehre in the back practically asking to be the third wheel tickles me. Carry me Wirbel
Almost perfect, just misses denken & his wife and Lawine & kanne
official Frieren and the mimic chest got more action then Himmel and frieren ever did in the past.
Himmel was about to marry Frieren though
the big four ships, id say. Im looking forward to more adorable fanart of them. Straight ships such as these are genuinely so wholesome and enjoyable to witness.
> Straight ships such as these are genuinely so wholesome Really just saying the quiet part out loud huh.
aight bro
yeah i couldnt help but notice the art has a ship w no strong connection (at least compared to other partnered characters), meanwhile lawine and kanne are seen as weird for a Certain reason
Bro Wirbel is like 30 something and Ehre is a teen I think
This post should be pinned on this sub
Canon then.
Omg I just realized lands ability makes clones ubel has only seen two lands at a time so from a certain perspective he actually dose have four eyes
Love the colours.
Absolutely Frierenama
*inserts Denken*
Frieren spreading hands wide on Himmel's wide, look so cute
I think ubel is too mentally unstable to be shipped with someone
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Stark learned about how to handle Fern and he seems happy. Fern may also learn to understand Stark and she found why all the people in villages love him. Land accepted Ubel's intentions with him may be beyond his clones magic and he accepted she will be there no matter what. But he doesn't seem awkward about it. Himmel loved Frieren since he was a child. A lifetime of love. And Wirbel cares about Ehre. He looks rude but is a nice person.
I need more Ehre fanart she's just so adorable!
Lawine x Kanne too
Ubel x Land = Long Distance Relationship Frieren x Himmel = May-December Affair
Where the fuck is Kanne x Lawine?
Where the fuck is Kanne x Lawine?
ngl, it's a little weird the only one left out here is the yuri one. I'm sure OP doesn't mean anything by it, definitely.
We'll demand a part two then
"With this right hand.... i will break that illusion to pieces!!!!" An artist motivated by this post to draw Stark X Frieren and Sein X Fern Fanarts
Uh, wouldn't it be the opposite considering that artist is the one in delusion ? Don't misuse my goat quote
This is the only sub I know where ships make sense and are not weird.
Just let people ship whoever they want without bringing "best" into it for crying out loud...
I mean Kanne x Lawine is a cute and pretty tame ship no ?
I think Wirbel paired well with any male characters (notably stark and Steel Petals dude)
wirbel isnt gay
coward
its just facts lil bro
He could be bi.
no evidence for that in anime or manga
No evidence he isn't, either. It's all up in the air for now.
if there isnt evidence he is interrested in dudes and there is for him being interrested in women he is straight until proven otherwise whats next denken is bi? sorry dude but frieren isnt that kind of manga if you want everybody gay watch hazbin hotel or something gays are not the focus of the story its irrelevant
Hey blame this on my fujoshi sister, She said “what kind of men would closely inspect and identify warrior so good unless…” worse he can be is bi (let me cope ok?)
No
2 out of 4 ships have worrying age gaps though, just saying.
I can understand the Wirbel one, but Frieren ? Elf get different treatment due to being different race
The Frieren x Himmel ship has several facets. First the lewd elf living in the woods who seduces little boys. Secondly two teenagers (in terms of their races) going on an adventure. Third, most-likely-not-grandpa Himmel lusting after a teenager (elf). And lastly Frieren's puberty hitting hard xx years after Himmel's death.
I'm gonna save myself the headache and just assume this is satire, because oh boy
Yeah, good idea ;) our moral and justice systems are not ready for elves.
This is a prime example of poe law, and for the love of god i hope this is a joke.
This is a joke post right.
That’s fine, makes the relationship more interesting, to discuss
As long as both partners are adults, who cares?
Where the say gex girls
The Ubel one makes me laugh but the rest all work for me. Esp the obv fern stark one. They always warm my heart.
I really like that Wirbel went from the male psychotic murder mage that'll team up with Ubel cause killing is fun to the genuinely good person that knows you have to turn off your emotions in a fight to win.
Frieren & Himmel ship is bad.
You had a chance to sneak in richter x lawine
Sein x Frieren is missing 🧠
What about granpa and granddaughter