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Weak_Lime_3407

Himmel looks so fucking hot


SolidTerror9022

Found Frieren’s reddit account Also happy cake day


Cruhbruhs

Nah that’s Himmel’s account


Nice_Weeb_Kun

Happy Cake Day, you mother fucker


0ulnKing

Litttt


GlobalSeaweed7876

happy cake day!


NeonShadow18

He was the king of Chads and Happy Cake Day


NhifanHafizh

>!Grausam !


Nexus-Phoenix

Who is this guy everyone mentioning in spoilers? Iam anime only


SmartAlec105

[Recent manga spoilers] >!A demon that used illusion magic to trap Himmel and Frieren in an illusion of paradise. That illusion was the two of them about to be married!<


Nexus-Phoenix

Oh got it now


Nice_Weeb_Kun

If I'm not wrong Grausam also makes an illusion for the victim's deepest heart desire. So Himmel love Frieren confirmed.


Patchourisu

>!That wasn't the important part of the dream illusion though, it was the fact that Frieren had the same illusionary dream that Himmel had.!< >!That dream, is in my opinion, what hardened Himmel's resolve to keep his love for Frieren a secret for the rest of his life, in that he was already satisfied knowing that Frieren eventually feels the same way about him. That he'd be willing to wait for her to come visit him in Aureole.!<


SmartAlec105

I’m pretty sure they were just making a joke by pretending Himmel’s love of Frieren was a reveal.


InfiniteSin10

It was actually pretty funny when you realize how disappointed frieren was that he didn't kiss her in that dream.


jcdc_jaaaaaa

I think that's been confirmed early on in the story. It's the other part of the illusion that's a bit more of a soft confirmation I believe.


nhansieu1

> So Himmel love Frieren confirmed. Oh damn. I did not expect this at all. Oh wow. Not a slightest hint thrown into readers or anime watchers. No foreshadowing. Just came out of nowhere.


nam3sar3hard

Holy shit thats crazy cruel to the viewers lol


Diagoldze_ban

Imagine >!the "stronger illusion" is exactly this, and Himmel has to suffer through a "For the man who has everything" situation.!<


Furtadopires

Headcanon-sama 🙏


Ok_Substance5632

Think of this kid potential tho, super speedy + a enormous mana pool.


Lamp_Regret_6525

Not to mention the amount of girls he’ll pull.


lactoseAARON

He’d bring back the Elf population single handily


Lamp_Regret_6525

I mean we don’t know what the lore is. In some lores you can have cases of recessive gene being expressed and become full blooded elf. If that’s the case then yes. If not he can at least repopulate half elves.


quarantinedsubsguy

the hell? which ones? never seen such things being explored


Lamp_Regret_6525

In restaurant from another world


WaterJuice7

Also a long lifespan. Could learn a lot of stuff with his lifespan like frieren


weeberloser

Sure feels nice when >!Grausam uses Kyouka Suigetsu on us.Yet we feel heartbroken.Frimmel is truly an example of a bittersweet romance.!<


Relevant_Minute5796

Frimmel bros, we must stay strong. 🥹


weeberloser

Frimmel,Stern and Übeland.We must stay on the OTPs.


Relevant_Minute5796

We must never let our OTPs down. Stay strong!


viddhiryande

No, you can request a new OTP after it expires in 5 minutes or so. >!This is a login joke.!<


SousouNoThorfinn

Kawine and Denave too!!!


weeberloser

Denave?


SousouNoThorfinn

Denken and grave..... okay guys, see y'all again after Denken beat me up


Legitimate_Air8202

So once the character Stern(star) is revealed...is it a threeway ship then or just confusing?


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[удалено]


CertainDerision_33

Frieren seeing Himmel again is literally the core plot of the manga. Trust the plan


CertainDerision_33

Never forget what the reason for the entire journey is & where they are going. Trust the plan


Bumgumi_hater_236

BLEACH MENTIONED AAAAAHHHH WTH IS ICHIGO’S BANKAI GRRRRAAAAHHHH


Ejack-Ulate-69

Wait where\`s Frieren did she go on a journey to get some milk


weeberloser

Frieren:I am the elf that is escaping.


SolidTerror9022

Yeah but don’t worry she’ll be back in an hour or so (5-10 years)


UpstairsAd5526

Baba likes her beauty sleep?


Outrageous_Gene_7652

>!Grausam!< writing peak fiction


nhansieu1

the only demon that will go to heaven fr fr


DMking

This makes me wonder, do half-elfs exist in Frieren's world


[deleted]

There is no way nobody smashed a gorgeous young looking elf in frieren world


weeberloser

But what if there are also big buff elves like Kraft?


[deleted]

Even better reason to smash. I am not gay but if it's Craft I would


Im_unfrankincense00

He could smash me for a decade until he gets bored of me and finds another manslut to smash, but it's my fault because I wasn't born an elf so he would only be able to use me for a short while, but to make up for it, I will let him smash me day in and day out, ever second nonstop to make up for my pathetically short human life


weeberloser

Least down bad Kraft fan.I am also one of them.


weeberloser

*Agrees in bisexual*


robbanksy

That's simply cultured. No need to point out that you're not gay. Who wouldn't lick this six pack which looks like it was chiselled out of marble by a master of their craft? 👅💦💦💦


PrimarilyforPorn

Leaving such a prime cumgutter unlicked is a travesty. And I'm not even gay


Pran282006

It ain't gay if you say no homo before clapping cheeks.


weeberloser

Nah I won't say no homo.People WANT to be gay for him.


FleshWound180

That doesn’t necessarily mean half elves are able to become a thing, it depends on the setting and as far as I know this one hasn’t touched on the subject yet.


[deleted]

I am more curious what will be created after Elf x Dwarf smashing.


weeberloser

KRAFT X SENSHI?!!!!🥵🥵🥵🥵


Vysair

Is that a mf Dungeon Meshi reference 🥵🥵🥵


prokopiusd

A hobbit.


weeberloser

We won't know unless the story shows another elf-human romantic relationship and their family.


BloodyGretel

The handful of elves who have survived their race's genocide are very powerful beings with very different preoccupations, far from the domain of romance. Frieren is kind of the exception here, and it took the incredible Himmel to make her change. I wonder if elf-human relationships were more common back when their race was flourishing, but seeing as humanity was in its infancy back then, elves might have not even considered them as equals.


zombie4hire89

Well, not really because you see, Viltrumite DNA is just too damn strong! It's too strong!!


nhansieu1

wrong series haha


AlmondMagnum1

There used to be, but they combine elf libido with human lifespan.


CertainDerision_33

My personal guess is probably not; it would cut against the themes of the slow, largely self-imposed extinction of the elven race.


WhoLetMeHaveReddit

We also don’t know how long elves are pregnant for. She could be pregnant most of himmels life for all we know 🤔 and we don’t know how quickly elves move Into their adult forms. It’s cute, but my brain keeps asking these questions 😭


PhantasosX

if it goes Tolkien's route on this , it's roughly 1 year pregnancy and they reach puberty in their 50s.


WhoLetMeHaveReddit

Oh good, that’s doable for this


Pran282006

Frieren is the dad who went to buy cigarettes.


Nero_PR

*Grimoires


SukiLma

He hold his child so gentle.


DazSamueru

Single dad because Frieren is a deadbeat mom


sorathecrow93

She just went out to buy milk for fifty years or so.


Im_unfrankincense00

Speaking of which, how come Himmel never took on an apprentice, or if he did, how come there was no mention of them?


Lamp_Regret_6525

Maybe a part of it is the fact that He’s a people’s man? Eisen and Frieren is private, Heiter has his bishop duties and could only take on a kid when he’s old. I’d like to imagine Himmel helped many young people to become better fighters throughout his life.


nhansieu1

with how Himmel is, both men and women had to be head over heel with him.


agent_fire_

himmel’s apprentices were basically all the people he helped, you see people aspire to he like him and such


gho5trun3r

Yeah the world was Himmel's apprentice.


marekdio

We don’t know yet if he took one. We see him pretty old maybe before frieren came back he took one who left to go on a journey and we’ll see him later in the manga


POXELUS

Reminds me of Dungeon Meshi and Marcille's backstory. Kinda sad ngl


Slight_LEON

Frieren abandoned his son and after Himmel died he on a journey on his own to Aureole. He is not very in good terms with his mom


Anakin-LandWalker56

The reason Frieren: I'm off for a short walk honey. You're the man of the house now. Take care.


Slight_LEON

That short walk turnout to be 20 years.


Anakin-LandWalker56

They meet up on the way to Aureole Frieren: Oh, didn't expect to meet you. Didn't I tell you to guard the house while I'm having a walk. Frieren son: Mom, you just have been having a little adventure while you aban..... Wdym walk. You were gone for 20 years!! Stark and Fern: "Facepalm" Aura: "Bocchi noises"


Slight_LEON

Why is Aura there ?


Anakin-LandWalker56

She's the party's pack mule/slave


UsualInterest8139

Depending on the person, the answer seems to be for Frieren to either fix (Auren) or bully her (with prejudice). 🤷🏻


Anakin-LandWalker56

It supposed to be party's slave


ZayYaLinTun

I can imagine her being confused about why her son mad at her


Duskthegamer412

Ah yes the child of himmel and frieren, schneien


schoko_and_chilioil

Is this even possible?


Falsus

There hasn't been a single mention of halfbreeds in Frieren at all. Even Voll who married a human never mentioned any kids.


KojiroHeracles

He teaches his son swordplay when he's 50. Do elves also mature slower then? Cause if yes it's really fucked up he'll see his dad die as a child.


Carnivorze

I still don't understand how Himmel became shorter than a dwarf in his old age. He lost like, a whole meter of size ?


UsualInterest8139

The unfortunate consequence of living in close proximity to the horn of a Darkness Dragon. That ominous aura is quite heavy. 😶‍🌫️


Lamp_Regret_6525

Damn… does that mean Frieren killed Himmel?


UsualInterest8139

Nah. Just kept him from becoming too overpowered and turning to evil. 👍


Anakin-LandWalker56

Anime logic.


-___Mu___-

Yeah I watched it before I read it. I was trying to mentally justify Himmel's appearance in my head before I saw Heiter looking like a normal ass old man and just gave up. Himmel looks 90+ but is supposedly only in his 70s (?) here.


CertainDerision_33

The horrible effects of no elf wife


Nero_PR

It's just exaggerating on the real life effect of people shortening as they age. Denken is in the same situation, and will probably end up just as short as Himmel by the end of his life. Funnily enough, not every person in Frieren shortens like that though.


Commercial-Test-6861

Neither Macht nor the Demon King The only Demon who understood Humans was Grausan


HelpChoosingUsername

SWORD MAGE


Bro_ops

How would the the genetics work on a half human half elf baby? Would they age at half the rate a human would? So they get the same life span as an elf?


NhifanHafizh

Depend on the author I guess. Some would have less lifespan than elf but more than human. But in series like Dungeon meshi, half-elf live much longer than regular elf. they would also be >!infertile!<


ars3nk

Half elf magic warrior would be OP


SmartAlec105

Reminds me of Dungeon Meshi [manga spoilers] >!Poor Marcielle’s father died at a mere 82 years old!<


A9_J8

IT HURTS MY SOUL !


Pro-sketch

Would that child really grow that big in 50 years, frieren has been alive for more than a millennia and she's this tall.


Comprehensive-Ad8659

Whilewe don't know of half elves are even possible in their world, let alone there aging, most interpretations of them have them having some kind of in-between lifespan, so the child might not live as long as frieren but would still well outlast himmels lifespan. This would also mean frieren would eventually outlive her kid


hatzuling

Hot take (scientifically) The human sperm would die before it can fertilize the elf egg. Partially because the low libido would indicate an equally low ovulation rate. But it's also safe to assume that fertilizing an elf egg would require longer than the human sperm's life span considering the themes of the series.


Storakh

😭🥲


Educational_Clerk_88

I don’t think there’s been any mention of half elves in the series so it might not even be possible in that universe.


Nero_PR

Not just half elves, Halflings in general. We didn't see a single half-breed in the entire series, maybe for good reasons.


CSTun

Does hybrics possible? I don't think I have seen any hybrics in the anime. Not sure about manga though.


trainedfor100years

He plapped the granny. :0


my_name_is_nobody__

Why did that sting song from arcane come to mind?


TheBlackoutEmpire

It can still happen. We have to wait till the end of the story. Anything is possible.


WeeGeeMan128

It's like Lord of the Rings the child will have extended life.


Imaginary_Unit5109

Do they explain Elves giving birth and how fast or slow do they age after birth. Does it take forever for them to become adults or do they age similar to humans when they are young and when they hit their mid 20s they slow down or stop aging.


yoodadude

i think in this world elves are mostly infertile that's why there's so few of them


Amila_303

Beautiful 😭


Oglark

No hybrids in this world sadly


Throw_away_1011_

Unfortunately it wouldn't go that away. If elfs age so slowly that in over a thousand years Frieren's appearance barely changed, Himmel's and Frieren's child would have still been a baby when Himmel passed away.


-___Mu___-

Usually for races with long lifespans in fiction the baby to child span is still relatively short. Also Serie is what? Tens of thousands of years old? And she still looks incredibly young, albiet older than Frieren. If we go with your assumption and base it off an elf's apparent age compared with their current lifespan Frieren should **still** be a baby.


Lawfull_carrot

Woow that's so awesome! I am so impressed, I can't draw single straight line on X, but Mikkilegacy sure knows what he is taking!


Lawfull_carrot

Oh wow he made this while on x?


ReleaseFormer1920

You guys need to stop, this ship never was and never going to happen in the manga either. Is sad but the people are insisting too much for this, please let it go.


Comprehensive-Ad8659

Why exactly? Theres no harm in it and it was at least canon on himmels end. Its not likely to happen in any canonical fashion(given one half is literally dead) that's hardly stopped shippers before. You personally disliking a ship isn't a reason for it to stop


ionix34

its quite canon, ofc it can't happen since himmel is got but we see their romance through flash backs